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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1121 on: October 7, 2024, 05:31:02 pm »
nah, i'm being sincere. you seem to be lying to yourself to be honest mate

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Replying to posters lad, actual posts with facts.

And you even highlighted the lie.

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you've even taken part in conversations about doing that before. not sure why you're projecting that on others
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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1122 on: October 7, 2024, 05:34:42 pm »

Replying to posters lad, actual posts with facts.

And you even highlighted the lie.

honestly no idea what youre even trying to say!

by my definition, replying to posts counts as 'taking part in conversations' so you seem to be agreeing with my point, even though you're arguing something unknown

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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1123 on: October 7, 2024, 05:38:23 pm »
What's the consensus about just having it as a news thread ?
I'd vote no.
this is a footie site - if ppl want to see / debate non-footie stuff that may well be very controversial, there's a LOT of other options.

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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1124 on: October 7, 2024, 05:40:11 pm »
forgot to say:  if any of the mods wanted to take on the job of monitoring a news-only thread I guess that's up to them.

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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1125 on: October 7, 2024, 05:48:51 pm »
honestly no idea what youre even trying to say!

by my definition, replying to posts counts as 'taking part in conversations' so you seem to be agreeing with my point, even though you're arguing something unknown


It is the "Took part in conversations about doing that before" which I read as you saying that I actually had conversations about getting a thread shut down.

We'll leave it at that.
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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1126 on: October 7, 2024, 06:01:25 pm »
What's the consensus about just having it as a news thread ?

Staff room sweepstake on how many hours it lasts. Pity the poor sucker that gets longer than a day.

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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1127 on: October 7, 2024, 06:05:25 pm »
I know there is no appetite for discussion around the genocide and I understand that since I wouldn't want to mod it either. It has to be done on some moral level though? Even just a news thread.

How can we pretend this isn't happening? I know it's a football forum but it is a Liverpool football forum.

Sounds like you're ready for a reasoned discussion

Case in point as to why there can't be a thread

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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1128 on: October 7, 2024, 06:14:33 pm »
Staff room sweepstake on how many hours it lasts. Pity the poor sucker that gets longer than a day.


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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1129 on: October 7, 2024, 06:41:40 pm »
What's the consensus about just having it as a news thread ?
What would be the point in that?

You can go on any media website, from anywhere is the world and fill yer boots.

Why bring it here?

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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1130 on: October 7, 2024, 08:39:48 pm »
why was the technology > Macbook thread closed

too big?
or do you all hate Apple :D

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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1131 on: October 7, 2024, 08:41:29 pm »
Sounds like you're ready for a reasoned discussion

Case in point as to why there can't be a thread
It's just stating a fact. I'm amazed there are so many that have a problem using accurate terminology for what is going on.

It doesn't sit right with me that rawk like most of the media is pretending this isn't happening. I always believed rawk was better than that. Anyway, doesn't look as if it's going to happen. Thought it was worth asking either way.

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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1132 on: October 7, 2024, 08:42:20 pm »
why was the technology > Macbook thread closed

too big?
or do you all hate Apple :D

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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1133 on: October 8, 2024, 09:51:34 am »
It's just stating a fact. I'm amazed there are so many that have a problem using accurate terminology for what is going on.

It doesn't sit right with me that rawk like most of the media is pretending this isn't happening. I always believed rawk was better than that. Anyway, doesn't look as if it's going to happen. Thought it was worth asking either way.
The one single thing that pisses me off the most with you lot is this charge that RAWK is "pretending this isn't happening" or "ignoring it". The statement from the mods is unequivocally clear that the issues at hand are neither being ignored nor dismissed. It's just that the moderation team has – quite correctly in the face of all the evidence before and after – deemed us collectively incapable of managing an adult and respectful conversation about it. That's it. That's all there is to it. And the ones responsible for that? They know exactly who they are and are free to vent their spleens on other forums or platforms and pollute that space as much as they like.

The matter is clear – RAWK Towers abhors the situation and clearly wishes it wasn't happening.

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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1134 on: October 8, 2024, 10:35:58 am »
Sounds like you're ready for a reasoned discussion

Case in point as to why there can't be a thread

I'd argue its like of yourself but can understand that it would be a nightmare to moderate given some can't even acknowledge what is going on.

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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1135 on: October 8, 2024, 11:25:08 am »
Surely to anyone with half a brain, the fact that there can't even be a discussion about having a discussion that doesn't turn into a one-side vs the-other-side thing, is about all the proof you need that this is an impossible thing to have on the site. As mods, we do revisit the decision of not having a thread / discussion on this sometimes. We discuss it, and then we see things like what happened in the Russia thread and the bollocks in here accusing us of all sorts of nonsense and the "well *you* would say that" type shit and we decide it's just not a thing we're willing to take on.

We are well aware that some posters don't agree with our stance. We appreciate that most posters do understand it.

If you care so much about discussing this, go and find a place on the internet that allows it. Or better still, go and do something practical like volunteer with an organsiation that's trying to help, because trying to stir up shit on here because you think it's important to discuss it is less than useless. Please stop.
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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1136 on: October 8, 2024, 12:24:20 pm »
The one single thing that pisses me off the most with you lot is this charge that RAWK is "pretending this isn't happening" or "ignoring it". The statement from the mods is unequivocally clear that the issues at hand are neither being ignored nor dismissed. It's just that the moderation team has – quite correctly in the face of all the evidence before and after – deemed us collectively incapable of managing an adult and respectful conversation about it. That's it. That's all there is to it. And the ones responsible for that? They know exactly who they are and are free to vent their spleens on other forums or platforms and pollute that space as much as they like.

The matter is clear – RAWK Towers abhors the situation and clearly wishes it wasn't happening.

Give it a fucking rest, everyone, eh?
i've never understood it - this whole 'pretending it's not happening' or 'i'm not satisfied that RAWK (as a monolith - as if it's a person) doesn't phrase things exactly the way I want and need it to' or 'it's not a good look on RAWK' thing.

these days it's become so common for people to have this whole parasocial relationship to the websites they visit, the tv/films they watch etc that would be fascinating if it wasn't so concerning.

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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1137 on: October 8, 2024, 02:07:01 pm »
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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1138 on: October 9, 2024, 12:21:56 pm »
Is it time to move the Klopp thread into the Former Players (and managers) section now he's taking up a new role?

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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1139 on: October 9, 2024, 05:13:16 pm »
Yeah, possibly. But I'll let this news cycle run before moving it I think, given it's a relatively big story.
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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1140 on: October 10, 2024, 06:05:24 pm »
Why was the Harris -Trump thread closed?
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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1141 on: October 10, 2024, 06:19:27 pm »
Why was the Harris -Trump thread closed?
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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1142 on: October 12, 2024, 01:10:03 am »
That Klopp thread is just nuts! Glad but also sad it's been locked
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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1143 on: October 12, 2024, 11:39:18 am »
That Klopp thread is just nuts! Glad but also sad it's been locked
Very sad that the thread for one of the greatest managers we've ever had has had to be locked.  :-\
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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1144 on: October 12, 2024, 12:56:57 pm »
way too many people can't wait to get on their moral high horse and start lecturing every one else about the correct way to live, behave, and think.  it's amazing how many saints walk among us.

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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1145 on: October 12, 2024, 01:55:42 pm »
way too many people can't wait to get on their moral high horse and start lecturing every one else about the correct way to live, behave, and think.  it's amazing how many saints walk among us.

What would they have done when they found out that the recently retired Shankly was training with Everton?

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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1146 on: October 12, 2024, 08:00:58 pm »
way too many people can't wait to get on their moral high horse and start lecturing every one else about the correct way to live, behave, and think.  it's amazing how many saints walk among us.

Let's not kid ourselves, it's not people is it
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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1147 on: October 12, 2024, 08:07:40 pm »
Let's not kid ourselves, it's not people is it

For me, I don't know who you're talking about.
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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1148 on: October 12, 2024, 08:49:43 pm »
Dickheads are taking over the asylum
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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1149 on: October 13, 2024, 10:33:39 am »
Can we add the Jarell Quansah thread to this as well? You can tell there is no club football on at the moment.  :o
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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1150 on: October 13, 2024, 10:36:33 am »
Can we add the Jarell Quansah thread to this as well? You can tell there is no club football on at the moment.  :o

:lmao that thread
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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1151 on: October 13, 2024, 11:11:39 am »
Can we add the Jarell Quansah thread to this as well? You can tell there is no club football on at the moment.  :o
:lmao that thread
where are people on their moral high horse? Do you not think it's worth advising one of the clubs employees to not pursue romantic relationships with minors? Absolutely nobody in that thread is accusing him of anything, asking for him to be punished , wanting him sold etc. What exactly is the problem?

Separately, the bizarre thing here is how many of the same people who are arguing now that we shouldn't police behaviours and beliefs of former players and coaches have previously been totally fine with slandering club legends like Gerrard, Carragher and Henderson for their moves post-Liverpool.

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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1152 on: October 13, 2024, 11:27:10 am »
where are people on their moral high horse? Do you not think it's worth advising one of the clubs employees to not pursue romantic relationships with minors? Absolutely nobody in that thread is accusing him of anything, asking for him to be punished , wanting him sold etc. What exactly is the problem?

Separately, the bizarre thing here is how many of the same people who are arguing now that we shouldn't police behaviours and beliefs of former players and coaches have previously been totally fine with slandering club legends like Gerrard, Carragher and Henderson for their moves post-Liverpool.

The thread is about a footballer and his career not a running line of people insinuating things, it's the worst type of social media behaviour. People tying themselves in absolute knots over something which is nothing to do with them anyway.
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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1153 on: October 13, 2024, 11:27:50 am »
Dickheads are taking over the asylum
This should be in a news thread. Oh wait...
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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1154 on: October 13, 2024, 11:34:10 am »
where are people on their moral high horse? Do you not think it's worth advising one of the clubs employees to not pursue romantic relationships with minors? Absolutely nobody in that thread is accusing him of anything, asking for him to be punished , wanting him sold etc. What exactly is the problem?

Separately, the bizarre thing here is how many of the same people who are arguing now that we shouldn't police behaviours and beliefs of former players and coaches have previously been totally fine with slandering club legends like Gerrard, Carragher and Henderson for their moves post-Liverpool.

The thread is about a footballer and his career not a running line of people insinuating things, it's the worst type of social media behaviour. People tying themselves in absolute knots over something which is nothing to do with them anyway.

Not a mod but I think that thread should be locked, people who don't have all the information making up worst case scenarios rather than holding fire to see what has actually happened - if indeed anything has.
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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1155 on: October 13, 2024, 11:36:31 am »
Not a mod but I think that thread should be locked, people who don't have all the information making up worst case scenarios rather than holding fire to see what has actually happened - if indeed anything has.

Or people just stick to discussing his football achievements, which is what the thread is there for.
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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1156 on: October 13, 2024, 11:49:17 am »
Or people just stick to discussing his football achievements, which is what the thread is there for.

That would be another option :P
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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1157 on: October 13, 2024, 12:42:19 pm »
Or people just stick to discussing his football achievements, which is what the thread is there for.
I don't think it's ever been the case that the players threads are only for discussion of football achievements- it's natural you talk about off field stuff too especially when things are in the news.

Nobody was insinuating anything. Purely that he needs to be careful and the club should probably have a word, for his own sake. I only put that view forward as a reaction to the sheer number of people who were writing it off as absolutely nothing, which I find really odd. Nobody was crucifying the lad or even suggesting what he did was morally wrong.

It's the typical RAWK thing lately of people getting upset about opinions that don't even exist in the thread. "I can't believe people are saying..." and then you look at the thread and literally nobody is saying it. Then you look in here and the fallout thread and everyone's still moaning about things that haven't happened. When people don't like opinions they feel they need to shout about it in as many places as people until its shut down.
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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1158 on: October 13, 2024, 12:44:21 pm »
Or people just stick to discussing his football achievements, which is what the thread is there for.
[/quote I don't think it's ever been the case that the players threads are only for discussion of football achievements- it's natural you talk about off field stuff too especially when things are in the news.

Nobody was insinuating anything. Purely that he needs to be careful and the club should probably have a word, for his own sake. I only put that view forward as a reaction to the sheer number of people who were writing it off as absolutely nothing, which I find really odd. Nobody was crucifying the lad or even suggesting what he did was morally wrong.

It's the typical RAWK thing lately of people getting upset about opinions that don't even exist in the thread. "I can't believe people are saying..." and then you look at the thread and literally nobody is saying it. Then you look in here and the fallout thread and everyone's still moaning about things that haven't happened. When people don't like opinions they feel they need to shout about it in as many places as people until its shut down.

Good post AIAR
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Re: a question for one of the mods
« Reply #1159 on: October 13, 2024, 12:45:38 pm »
The context, not the formatting  :D
As I've said before, the Full English is just the base upon which the Scots/Welsh/NI have improved upon. Sorry but the Full English is the worst of the British breakfasts.