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For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« on: September 7, 2017, 04:19:45 am »
What was the feeling like? What was the feeling like for the upcoming season ahead being champions of England?

I'm born in 86 and was too late to the party I guess. Big brother was a massive Liverpool fan and I just followed in his footsteps.

The best memory outside my family involved Istanbul. I remembered being at a pub and going absolutely mental. The sheer joy just countinued for days after.

The comeback made it soo much sweeter. It felt like you're high on crack and x the moment Shevchenko missed that pen. (never done crack but I'd imagine that is what it would be like)


I'm optimistic we'll win it. Especially under Klopp.

I just want it to be described to me. Cause if it felt better than Istanbul.. Fuck. I can't wait.

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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #1 on: September 7, 2017, 05:47:47 am »
I have a question to add as well!

When we did win the league eons ago, did the team have a special feel about them? That kind of confidence that we'd win it. An aura of some sort? Does our squad now have a similar feel?

I've never followed a Liverpool that felt like champions, always an underdog to the other big boys in the league.


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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #2 on: September 7, 2017, 05:59:57 am »
I have a question to add as well!

When we did win the league eons ago, did the team have a special feel about them? That kind of confidence that we'd win it. An aura of some sort? Does our squad now have a similar feel?

I've never followed a Liverpool that felt like champions, always an underdog to the other big boys in the league.

Interesting that. People talk about the Rafa days, with Xabi, Masch, Torres etc as being at a higher level than our current XI, yet I never felt we had the aura of champions about us throughout those years, even when we went close that year.

What I like about the players Klopp brings in is that they all seem to have self-belief. Think this is one area where Arsenal and Wenger in particular have dropped the ball in recent years, focusing solely on raw talent etc.

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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #3 on: September 7, 2017, 06:07:22 am »
Obviously, I was buzzing we'd won the league, but I suppose I kind of took winning the league for granted back then. Just thought it was going to go on and on and on. It was all I'd known as a kid growing up. Liverpool winning titles and trophies, season in, seasons out. Just thought we'd challenge and probably win the league in 1991 as well. Little did I know what was coming that season was going to cause us to have such a downturn, that would lead to us not winning another title in 28 years. :-\
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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #4 on: September 7, 2017, 06:58:00 am »
Obviously, I was buzzing we'd won the league, but I suppose I kind of took winning the league for granted back then. Just thought it was going to go on and on and on. It was all I'd known as a kid growing up. Liverpool winning titles and trophies, season in, seasons out. Just thought we'd challenge and probably win the league in 1991 as well. Little did I know what was coming that season was going to cause us to have such a downturn, that would lead to us not winning another title in 28 years. :-\

Yup I guessed it doesnt feel that amazing considering how successful we were back in the 70s and 80s.

Especially when you're favourites..it would feel routine. How crazy it must have been for leicester fans a couple seasons ago.

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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #5 on: September 7, 2017, 07:04:06 am »
First time I was at a game where we won the league was 1979 when we beat Villa (I was 12), Barney scored after about 3 minutes, I remember George playing Queens We are the Champions that night. By then I was used to us winning things and we carried on doing it, it was a shock when we didn't win the league - finishing 5th under Bob was a proper what the fuck just happened season.

It was a buzz winning the league, you always enjoyed it, but as Lycan says, I also started to take it for granted. (My Manc missus says the same with her lot). I remember worrying as a kid what it would be like if we were suddenly shit, but didn't think I'd find out. Watching the football under Souness brought that nightmare to reality.
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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #6 on: September 7, 2017, 07:14:08 am »
Since I only follow LFC from far, at the time of no Internet, there was not much fever on my side. LFC winning was a kind of expected. We were that good, that I was excited we signed a player by the name Jimmy Carter, believing anyone playing for us regardless, we would still win the league.
I'd say us winning the league now would be so much different in terms of the vibe. A lot of live games and internet change it for us from places far from Anfield; so can't wait for May 2018. 😉
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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #7 on: September 7, 2017, 07:21:26 am »
I was young then, and I took it for granted. There was the belief that whatever happened, we would always manage to find a way to win.

"That kind of confidence that we'd win it. An aura of some sort? Does our squad now have a similar feel?"

I felt we had that aura when we went on the eleven game winning streak in 2013/2014. I have never felt that aura since the last time we won the league. This team does not exude that aura yet, but its still early in the season so there is still time

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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #8 on: September 7, 2017, 07:23:04 am »
Obviously, I was buzzing we'd won the league, but I suppose I kind of took winning the league for granted back then. Just thought it was going to go on and on and on. It was all I'd known as a kid growing up. Liverpool winning titles and trophies, season in, seasons out. Just thought we'd challenge and probably win the league in 1991 as well. Little did I know what was coming that season was going to cause us to have such a downturn, that would lead to us not winning another title in 28 years. :-\

Yeah, agreed. We were so good that we (the fans) probably took trophies for granted. There was always a challenger, Forest, Ipswich, Villa, Everton, Arsenal but they'd have a good season or two and fade away. Did we have an "aura"? Hell yeah! Nobody would tip a team other than us to win the league, and mostly we did, 10 times in 15 years! We won the European Cup 4 times in 8 years, we won the League Cup 4 times in a row, Wembley was nicknamed "Anfield South". We won the double in 86 but the games I will always remember are the losses in the final game of 87-88 and 88-89. They hurt! If you haven't read or watched them on YouTube then take a moment to do so.

It hasn't all been bad since 91 though. We won other stuff. And we've won some big matches that are recognised as the best/most entertaining of all time (as SKY would have us believe that football began in 92). Premier League 96 v Newcastle, UEFA Cup final 01 v Alaves, Champions League final 05 v AC Milan, FA Cup final 06 v West Ham.

I'm too old and busy with kids to take football that seriously any more but Jurgen Klopp has me believing that there are more memorable days to come even if it never quite hits the heights of the Paisley days.


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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #9 on: September 7, 2017, 07:41:16 am »
I was there in 1990 when we beat QPR to win it and a few days later against Derby when we picked up the trophy. I was only 11 so probably took it for granted a little as it was such a regular occurrence.

When we beat QPR we had gone one down but I don't recall any tension although seeing as we won it with a couple of games to spare we much have had some leeway.


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Remember having to finish my homework the next morning but it was worth it! Incredible to think what's happened since.

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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #10 on: September 7, 2017, 07:46:42 am »

Remember having to finish my homework the next morning but it was worth it! Incredible to think what's happened since.

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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #11 on: September 7, 2017, 07:51:44 am »
Even though I'm 31 I've never seen us win anything big, I've only been a fan for 10 years or so, I think I jumped on the Liverpool bandwagon in the middle of the 06/07 season. Didn't even have a football interest before that, so for me we have always been the underdogs.

It's very interesting to read about how the feeling about us once was. It's unimaginable for me to expect trophies.

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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #13 on: September 7, 2017, 08:14:32 am »
Was a kid myself born in 1979. From near Blackpool was very much a little glory hunter. All the kids round my way were Liverpool or Everton fans because during the 80s they dominated football. Honestly, at that time and at that age it was just my expectation that we'd win everything every time. That feeling never really dissipated until the time Houllier and Evans took joint control. Even when we began winning cups again though it always felt that trying to usurp Fergie's united would be a massive task. Because they had become what we were when I was little - dominant. And every glory-hunting little kid wanted to support them. Just like I had done with Liverpool.
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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #14 on: September 7, 2017, 08:17:57 am »
Yeah, agreed. We were so good that we (the fans) probably took trophies for granted. There was always a challenger, Forest, Ipswich, Villa, Everton, Arsenal but they'd have a good season or two and fade away. Did we have an "aura"? Hell yeah! Nobody would tip a team other than us to win the league, and mostly we did, 10 times in 15 years! We won the European Cup 4 times in 8 years, we won the League Cup 4 times in a row, Wembley was nicknamed "Anfield South". We won the double in 86 but the games I will always remember are the losses in the final game of 87-88 and 88-89. They hurt! If you haven't read or watched them on YouTube then take a moment to do so.

Yeah this. The pain of losing was such an alien concept it stays with you more than the winning. Winning was just what we did. Spoilt by success I suppose.
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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #15 on: September 7, 2017, 08:20:12 am »
iI'm 56 and therefore have been blessed with many happy memories of winning the league, my first was '73 and last obviously '90...I can recall the excitement and joy of '73 and struggle to recal anything of '90 other than 'job done' ( and if I recall correctly we where celebrating when Villa where still playing and could have pipped us! )..basically becouse it was such a regular experiance.

I could write paragraphs on the matter , but can boil it down to its bloody great and a sense of acheivment that 'we are the best'..better and more satisfying than a cup win and one that you can gain pleasure and pride from decades later....amongst them there are truly memorable ones...mainly due to the season match experiance as much as the football... '77 and '86 stand large..and the Barnes/Beardsly/Aldridge era.

The next one will be the best , I know it...tears of joy will be shed and I will take the following week,..no month to celebrate....thing is I had a 25 year education on what it takes to win the league...and a 25 year education of how not too....when the next one is I have no bloody idea!

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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #16 on: September 7, 2017, 08:34:16 am »
I can remember the 87/88, 88/89 and 89/90 seasons and being disappointed at the end that we'd not done the double again. We had an aura, an air of invincibility and more often than not we cut through teams like a knife through butter. We were that good, that if we didn't win the league one season while you'd be gutted, you'd also know we'd win it the following one.

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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #17 on: September 7, 2017, 08:52:40 am »
1973 was the first one I saw but it is interesting to note that for that and the next eleven times we did it there were ten different runners-up to us (Arsenal, QPR, Manchester City, Nottingham Forest, Manchester United (twice), Ipswich Town, Watford, Southampton, Everton and Aston Villa. So the threat came from many different places and certainly not as many as there are today.

As others have mentioned it felt like it would never end so it was quite a shock when it did. Looking back I realise now what a pleasure and a privilege it was to support the club during that golden age of never-ending success. 

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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #18 on: September 7, 2017, 09:12:06 am »
I was there in 1990 when we beat QPR to win it and a few days later against Derby when we picked up the trophy.

Funny how memory plays tricks, i remembered us winning it away at Coventry followed by a big pitch invasion however looking at it now i think you are correct.

That last game against Coventry was amazing though, 6-1 and i was dancing on top of the executive boxes in the Coventry main stand which were near pitch level as all the fans were carrying round the Coventry manager John Sillett on the pitch for some reason.

As to the original question, i was old enough to remember us winning it but not old enough to remember where were wasn't the best team prior to that. My attitude was utter complacency as us being the best team was just so normal.

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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #19 on: September 7, 2017, 09:18:21 am »
I just want it to be described to me. Cause if it felt better than Istanbul.. Fuck. I can't wait.
It didn't, because it was just what we did. There's a stronger emotional result from a match like Istanbul - or even losing to Arsenal in '89 - than winning relentlessly and in full expectation of winning. There is a difficult to describe feeling which just comes with being the best, though. Assurance, arrogance, expectation, absolute confidence. That feeling has threatened to resurface a few times; 2014, 2009, once or twice during Fowler's ascendancy.

The next one will feel incredible, though. :)

Then I remember sitting in a pub having a post-mortem after another bad game under Souness and talking about how we might struggle for 10 years. If only.
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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #20 on: September 7, 2017, 09:27:03 am »
I was there in 1990 when we beat QPR to win it and a few days later against Derby when we picked up the trophy. I was only 11 so probably took it for granted a little as it was such a regular occurrence.

When we beat QPR we had gone one down but I don't recall any tension although seeing as we won it with a couple of games to spare we much have had some leeway.


I was in about row 5 of the Kemlyn, near the corner flag at the Anfield Road end but remember the players sweeping round doing their lap of honour, think someone had thrown Brucie a sombrero.

Remember having to finish my homework the next morning but it was worth it! Incredible to think what's happened since.

I must be similar age and went to the game regularly (had a season ticket from 85/86) during that period. As I was getting into football those 1st 5 years or so of football was just watching us win leagues almost every season. If we didn't win it, we'd be close. And you pretty much knew we'd come back and win it the next season. We were the best and we pretty much knew it.

As a kid, I always thought the 1987/88 team it up a level. John Barnes in particular brought a huge amount of excitement. I remembered an April's Fool that someone at the time played on me. Got told that the Echo were saying the Football League were thinking about giving teams a goal start against us. It was something 2-0 when we were at home and 1-0 when we were away. I remember thinking and having conversations that we'd probably still win the league. That's how confident you were in the team to deliver.

Given I was only 11 last time we won the league it's hard to say if I took it for granted. I reckon the older fellas did. I can't remember any mad celebrations after winning the league in 1990. Winning the FA Cup in 1986 or 2001 seemed like a bigger celebration to me.

If we ever win the league again it wouldn't be comparable to Istanbul. Istanbul was a joyous occasion. It almost felt like a bonus, unexpected win. That resulted in an explosion of joy. If we ever win the league again, I think it'll be an explosion of relief mixed with joy. Not winning the league for nearly 30 years has become a millstone around the neck of the club, but more importantly the supporters. Particularly the older fans who grew up with us being the best. Who fully witnessed and appreciated the days we dominated domestically and in Europe. For me, and I'd guess others, winning the league would be bigger than Istanbul. It would be a massive relief. I'm approaching 40 and I just hope I see us win it once again. I have hope we'll do it but no expectation that we will though.

It would be interesting to hear from the over 45's who saw more of our glory days as older teens or adults. I'm in that age bracket where I can remember us winning the league but I was still a kid. I did at least grow up through my pre-teen years with that knowledge that we were the best team in the land. That confidence that we were the best and that belief that a league win was just around the corner. The only time we got even close to regaining that feeling were periods between 2001 and 2007.

A question for the younger lads. Maybe people who are mid 20's and younger. Let's say someone who was born in 1995 or later. You will have been following the club for years but hardly seen us win anything. Even Istanbul would have been when you were still a kid. The 2001 trophies would be a more distant memory. I would suspect your age group haven't grown up with any expectation of us winning the league -  at least I don't have that expectation any more. We've not even been that close to being the biggest club in the country for the period you will have followed the club. Do you have any expectation of us winning the league? If so, were does that come from? Based on your the last 15 years or so, and the club's position in the financially hierarchy of English football during that period, it would seem difficult to have an expectation of us winning the league. Even though we all live in hope that we'll win it again one day.
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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
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A question for the younger lads. Maybe people who are mid 20's and younger. Let's say someone who was born in 1995 or later. You will have been following the club for years but hardly seen us win anything. Even Istanbul would have been when you were still a kid. The 2001 trophies would be a more distant memory. I would suspect your age group haven't grown up with any expectation of us winning the league -  at least I don't have that expectation any more. We've not even been that close to being the biggest club in the country for the period you will have followed the club. Do you have any expectation of us winning the league? If so, were does that come from? Based on your the last 15 years or so, and the club's position in the financially hierarchy of English football during that period, it would seem difficult to have an expectation of us winning the league. Even though we all live in hope that we'll win it again one day.


I'm 31 but I think I can answer than question. Yes I've seen us win the cup trebles and istanbul etc.. but I've also been thru the dark days of the 90s with the cream suits and of course the hodgson/hicks-gillette era. I've experience more lows than I can remember highs of being a Liverpool supporter. That 13-14 title push hit me hard. Way harder than any other cup finals we've lost.

But I'm confident we'll win the league one day. Well at least in my lifetime. I think we will. We're too big not to ..and I mean this in no disrespect to the chelseas/mancitys.. I think if 10 years down the road..if theres no sustained trophy push in any competitions.. I think FSG would happily sell to the next big chinese/arab guy.

Either way one league title is enough for me in my lifetime. I know it sounds weird but since I've grown up with a Liverpool closer to midtable most times than challenging titles.. I dont expect sustained success supporting Liverpool. Never ever.

Sure, you go into a season hoping for a trophy or a title push..but you never expect season after season of trophies or a title run in.

So yeah, I'm optimistic we'll win it one day.. but I dont think I'll ever get to see Liverpool in their pomp like it was in the 70s and 80s.

And thats good enough for me.


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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #22 on: September 7, 2017, 10:09:07 am »
It didn't, because it was just what we did. There's a stronger emotional result from a match like Istanbul - or even losing to Arsenal in '89 - than winning relentlessly and in full expectation of winning. There is a difficult to describe feeling which just comes with being the best, though. Assurance, arrogance, expectation, absolute confidence. That feeling has threatened to resurface a few times; 2014, 2009, once or twice during Fowler's ascendancy.

The next one will feel incredible, though. :)

Then I remember sitting in a pub having a post-mortem after another bad game under Souness and talking about how we might struggle for 10 years. If only.

Yeah I figured that much.

So from your point of view.. if Liverpool do win the league again..would it make it the best thing ever since you've supported Liverpool?Even after those glory years?

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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #23 on: September 7, 2017, 10:19:10 am »
I was born in 1970 and became a Liverpool fan at the age of 5 because my older cousin was.  By the time I really understood football we were already dominating the league and Europe and we were expected to win everything.  I remember as a child when we won something it was a mix of delight mixed with relief, the expectation added extra pressure. League matches I would look at the fixtures in the paper and just know that we would win at the weekend against all but one or two teams.  That confidence that we would win I have only felt once in the last 20 years and that was during the February-early April 13/14 season when we were destroying teams and you just knew that if we came up against teams playing just to stop us we had the variety of players to find a solution. It is a strange feeling knowing you are going to win, its different to the rest of the time when you think or believe you are going to win, there is a calmness about it.  We hate United fans for their arrogance and lack of humility during the 90s and 00s but I could always see where that came from even though I didn't like it.  They knew they were going to win no matter what the score and in reality we knew if they were losing with 5 minutes left they would find a last minute goal or two to change it around, we just knew.  Well, we had that belief in the 70s and 80s but I like to think the humble nature of our manager (Bob Paisley) taught us to be humble about it to. I also believe that our being humble about our achievements then, has allowed us to remain a big club even though we have enjoyed limited success in the last 20 years.  Liverpool were many peoples second team (not sure Man Utd are many peoples second team) meaning we have retained and grown the large support base over the years.

For sheer elation and joy nothing surpassed 2005 for me.  I watched us win trophy after trophy in the 70s and 80s but nothing will surpass the sheer ecstacy in 2005 which came from the opposite side of belief, I didnt think we had a chance at half time! 

The league now has so many teams of high quality that I am not sure I will ever get back to that 100% confidence that we will win, that lasted for such a  long time, but I expect we will get it in short periods like 13/14 which will take us back to the title soon, I hope!
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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #24 on: September 7, 2017, 10:26:12 am »
I started following Liverpool properly when I was 10 which would have been 1992. I did a school presentation and had a book filled with Liverpool articles and Panini stickers. We haven't won number 19 but our trophy cabinet has been far from barren. We've had good times, terrible times, and I look forward to great times.

I remember one time watching soccer Saturday and the pundits like Charlie Nicholas and Alan Mcanany were talking about how mean Liverpool were at Anfield in their day. Saying stuff like they would be happy if they touched the ball. Seriously eulogising about us. We must have been so demoralising to play against.

I also remember watching a highlight video and hearing Motson say something like 'That's one of the goals of the season, even by Liverpool's standards'


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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #25 on: September 7, 2017, 12:48:55 pm »
I made a banner and took it into school to parade round the yard when we won it at Wolves '76. I won't lie as by the late 80's is wasn't exciting unless it was a double or treble winning year..
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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #26 on: September 7, 2017, 12:54:08 pm »
Yeah I figured that much.

So from your point of view.. if Liverpool do win the league again..would it make it the best thing ever since you've supported Liverpool?Even after those glory years?
Yes. I started watching us in 77 and the next 13 years or so were virtually uninterrupted success. In retrospect, I didn't appreciate the exceptional nature of what I saw, though I certainly appreciated the football. The next one will mean more, given the years of disappointment in between - and the occasional nearly-year since.

It's natural to think that I'll never see someone like Dalglish, or Souness, or Hansen, or Barnes again. But I have done; Fowler, Gerrard, plus briefer glimpses from McManaman, Alonso, Torres, Suarez. But I do know that I'll probably never see a Liverpool side so dominant for a decade and more again, so will relish the successes more as and when they come.
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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #27 on: September 7, 2017, 01:00:21 pm »
As a now 31 year old I have experienced some truly fantastic moments supporting Liverpool but like others have said I've never known us be 'the team to beat',

All my family support Liverpool so there are picture of me in the iconic Silver Candy shirt from a family holiday to Blackpool in 1990 :) but my first real memories are from watching the 1995 League Cup Final round my Grandparents and then I properly started following football in the 95/96 season. By that time Man United had already got a strangle hold on the league and in my young eyes were the team to beat.

I have a very vivid memory of getting the Merlin Sticker Album for that season and it had a list of the honours for each club listed and I couldn't believe our haul compared with that lot. My Grandad always banged on about 'we're the biggest club in England etc' but up until then I thought that was his brainwashing bias!

Every season started and the pundits would be like 'it's be 6/7/8 etc years since Liverpool won the league' but I wouldn't think anything of it because i'd never seen us lift the trophy however it's only looking back that you can understand the significance of the comments.

I actually have a morbid curiosity about the Souness era and have probably read up more on that than the Shankly and Paisley dynasties. Roy Evans was my first manager and it was an exciting team full of local, flair players. I loved it but we were always third best. How we fell behind after being thee team for two decades always intrigued me and reading into the decisions made is absolute beggars believe.

In my lifetime I have only seen us have two sides which I think were title worthy in 1996/97 and 2008/09 (2013/14 was the closest but that team overachieved in my opinion) which really sums it up.

Istanbul, the Treble etc have been great and made even more so by the fact success has been sporadic. With that said I think we are 2 players away from having a team ready to win every competition we enter which considering where we were 7 years ago is a great achievement in itself       

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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #28 on: September 7, 2017, 02:18:50 pm »
I started following us in my 1st year at high school so the 71/72 season but I never got to anfield to watch us play and the only live games on tv then were the European games and the fa cup final.

I agree though that winning the League was just expected in those days so my biggest and most euphoric memories were the European wins.   

I was "lucky" to miss most of the 90s horror due to life changes and my passion was only reignited the season Rafa arrived.

I don't think the "aura" is quite there yet but we're not far off despite what some fans and the media think.

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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #29 on: September 7, 2017, 02:50:50 pm »
Chanting 'Bring on the Champions' after we'd won it always did it for me. What was winning it like? Fantastic. Hope those who missed it get their share very soon.

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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #30 on: September 7, 2017, 03:07:48 pm »
Obviously, I was buzzing we'd won the league, but I suppose I kind of took winning the league for granted back then. Just thought it was going to go on and on and on. It was all I'd known as a kid growing up. Liverpool winning titles and trophies, season in, seasons out. Just thought we'd challenge and probably win the league in 1991 as well. Little did I know what was coming that season was going to cause us to have such a downturn, that would lead to us not winning another title in 28 years. :-\

This.

For me it makes the lack of league championships all the harder to accept. I sometimes wonder if our lack of recent success is easier for the younger folks on here.
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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #31 on: September 7, 2017, 03:13:57 pm »
It's pretty shite that I remember losing to Arsenal in '89 and being devastated, but I don't remember '90
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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #32 on: September 7, 2017, 03:25:08 pm »
It's pretty shite that I remember losing to Arsenal in '89 and being devastated, but I don't remember '90

So much less hype and fanfare, whoever won it back then. Used to get the Big Match on a Sunday if you were lucky it, but we won the League on a Saturday 3pm kick off, got the trophy on a midweek, untelevised game and wrapped things up with a 6-1 win at Coventry, again not on TV.

 

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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #33 on: September 7, 2017, 03:57:20 pm »
My first match was a 2-2 draw at Anfield against Man United in 1971. I remember looking in awe at the Spion Kop from the Road End as it filled up before the game and loved listening to it throughout. Anfield seemed a really special, but a bit of a dangerous, place for a youngster such as I. Little was I to know then just what joys I'd witness in the coming years. My teens coincided with Liverpool becoming the most feared team on the planet. Call it youthful arrogance, but I never thought we'd lose a game back then. We had some great individuals, but most of all, we were a solid and often devastating team. No one liked playing against us, particularly at Anfield. Silk and steel. Liverpool were both.

An aura? Oh yes, Liverpool had an aura. Many teams were beaten before they even got onto the pitch at Anfield. Liverpool got into their heads. The team, the fans, the Kop, the sign above the tunnel. It all messed with opposition heads. Many sides and many sets of opposition fans simply wanted to get the hell out of Anfield as quickly as possible, hopefully with their pride intact. We had some loses of course. I recall Norwich doing us 1-3 at Anfield. I was bewildered after that one. I remember us losing away 5-1 to Villa and 4-0 to coventry, but Liverpool always came back at you. Always! Our rivals sometimes won a battle with us, but we usually won the war.

League Championships came thick and fast, and to me at least, they got taken for granted. I eventually got far mnore of a buzz over winning the European Cup. No one could touch us at home, so it felt like we had bigger fish to fry. These days detractors say ''Well there was no great Barcelona to stop you back then.'' But they fail to realise that back then, we WERE the great Barcelona of the day. We WERE the Real Madrid, the Bayern Munich and the Barcelona all rolled into one. Numero Uno. The Best.

Back then it never looked like it would end. Winning and being the best was all I'd ever known Liverpool to do and be. I was at the Arsenal game in '89 and even though it was a sickener I never really thought we'd go into the decline we eventually went into. I don't really know what happened either, but I did get the feeling that Liverpool became over sentimental as a club. Maybe Hillsborough contributed to that, and understandably so. The Liverpool I remember was a ruthless juggernaut of a club. A beast; a monster. You knew your job and you performed or you were out. Simple as that. As I said, we were a ruthless beast of a club and sentiment didn't seem to play a part. For much of two decades we terrorised teams home and abroad. We won the lot and deserved to do so. Being young enough to witness all that was a privilege. The Leagues were great, but I did get to take them for granted. An outrageous luxury with hindsight, eh. But we were expected to win the league, and we usually did so. In the end I still savoured the cake (league) but I savoured the icing more (European Cup) and the St Etienne game is still my all time favourite. Being right in the middle of the Spion Kop that night is still giving me goosbumps as I type this.

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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #34 on: September 7, 2017, 04:00:43 pm »
So much less hype and fanfare, whoever won it back then. Used to get the Big Match on a Sunday if you were lucky it, but we won the League on a Saturday 3pm kick off, got the trophy on a midweek, untelevised game and wrapped things up with a 6-1 win at Coventry, again not on TV.

I was at the 1-6 at Coventry. I remember when the final whistle went loads of Reds went onto the pitch. One lad went up to Ronnie Rosenthal and pulled his shirt right over his head and ran off with it as a souvenir. Not sure Ronnie was too impressed.
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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #35 on: September 7, 2017, 04:13:18 pm »
I was 11 the last time we won it and I would say it felt normal.
I'd grown up with us generally winning something at the end of the season.
I was made up but definitely took it for granted. no one would have guessed we'd go so long without winning it again.

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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #36 on: September 7, 2017, 04:23:38 pm »
I was 10 years old, I didn't fully understand it all but it felt great at the time lol. Barnes was my fave player as a youngin!

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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #37 on: September 7, 2017, 04:28:33 pm »
You knew beforehand that we would win something as it was inevitable. Others just collected our leftover. Then suddenly it stopped.

And no today's team doesn't feel the same. For starters we were the top of the food chain, now we are just semi top and it hurts double as if our top people back then had invested the peanuts required before the advent of premier league and the ridiculous tv money that followed, when we were very much the top dog, the story could have been different.

But instead we squabbled about a few millions whilst others were already prepared with a large stadium and ready to exploit the big tv money stream.

Anyway for a final positive thought. Back then it felt like today's team until December, but all season long. It felt like Suarez's last season with us, but each and every season.
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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #38 on: September 7, 2017, 04:36:09 pm »
Interesting that. People talk about the Rafa days, with Xabi, Masch, Torres etc as being at a higher level than our current XI, yet I never felt we had the aura of champions about us throughout those years, even when we went close that year.

What I like about the players Klopp brings in is that they all seem to have self-belief. Think this is one area where Arsenal and Wenger in particular have dropped the ball in recent years, focusing solely on raw talent etc.

Absolutely. And if you remember one of Klopp's very first interviews, he alluded to this, that belief is the key


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Re: For those who were old enough to see us win the league..
« Reply #39 on: September 7, 2017, 04:43:10 pm »
I was lucky enough to see us beat Arsenel 5-0 in 1964 after winning the old 2nd division in 1962.By the 80's it was expected and celebrations relatively low key.Whilst the team had an expectation-so did opponents who quite often were over passive at Anfield half expecting the worst.Never thought we'd go so long and only ever expected to crack it under Rafa before the full extent of the owner problem was fully revealed.While I have belief in Klopp its very difficult to compete against good managers with open chequebooks.