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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2017, 04:04:06 PM »
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/269167-liverpool-fc-complete-andy-robertson-signing

The Scotland international put pen to paper on a long-term contract at Melwood on Friday after completing a medical.

Speaking shortly after completing his move, the 23-year-old told Liverpoolfc.com: “It feels a wee bit surreal just now. Obviously I’m delighted. There’s been a lot of speculation over the last couple of weeks but I’m glad that the deal’s finally been done and I’m a Liverpool player.

“My family are proud of what I’ve achieved so far and they’re all over the moon with the move, as well as me of course. We’re all just looking forward to being part of the Liverpool family now.

“There’s not many, if any, more special clubs than Liverpool. When you grow up as a kid you dream of playing with big clubs such as Liverpool and to make that a reality is a dream come true for me.

“I just want to prove to people that I can do it at this level, and hopefully I manage to do that this season and go on to do good things for this club.”

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2017, 04:04:52 PM »
Great to see this one getting done, we really needed a left back.
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2017, 04:05:19 PM »
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2017, 04:05:55 PM »
Good luck.

He's had quite a rise in just 4 years

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2017, 04:06:36 PM »
Welcome aboard, I hope you have a long and successful career with the best team on the planet  :scarf
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2017, 04:06:56 PM »
Welcome Andy!

Would love to see him getting a starting run at LB for the rest of the preseason and impress. Milner's done a great job there but I'd like to see a natural try his hand at the role and see what he can bring.
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2017, 04:07:19 PM »
A left-back at last, and one that Klopp wants. I think he will do fine  :)

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2017, 04:07:30 PM »
Decent price.

Milner will be first choice still I'm guessing?
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2017, 04:07:50 PM »
Welcome and good luck! Relatively happy with this and the pressure is off really with such a low fee. A genuine LB who seems to be able to defend.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2017, 04:07:52 PM »
Welcome.
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2017, 04:08:53 PM »
Welcome Andy!

Delighted with this signing, I'm looking forward to seeing how he develops under Klopp in the coming seasons.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2017, 04:09:15 PM »
Welcome! Hoping for good things from him!

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2017, 04:09:40 PM »
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2017, 04:09:57 PM »
Nice one! Another one that we've ticked off the list. Important for next season.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2017, 04:11:11 PM »
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2017, 04:12:31 PM »
I´ve been comparing all the left backs in the league. So far he is coming out as someone above average in the categories I have looked at and has no perceived weakness yet. Still looking though. Below is where I am at so far. Check the thread for an explanation of how the conclusions are arrived at.

I´ve really liked the look of him from what I have seen so far. Think he will help us stretch play horizontally against sides who play a low block with balance on the left and those who seen him more than me in attacking sides have commented how much of a positive impact he can have on sides going forward.

Not a big name or a big price so he isn´t a great signing for people who want good transfers to help their FIFA teams against their mates online, but seems an astute signing to solve a problem we had in the squad at low cost. Well in.

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Latest update on my ongoing comparison of all Premier League Left Backs

At the moment I have only looked at 1-v-1 and blocking situations. I´ll look at pressing/second balls next. Still not looking at any defensive metrics but here is where we are at so far.

Blocks vs 1-v-1s


Blocks Broken Down


1-V-1 Ability broken down

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This grouping would be what I would consider the best grouping of left backs in 1-v-1 situations in the Premier League at the moment. I would say for that grouping Davies & van Aanholt look the best, although van Aanholt will be 27 when the season starts. We seem to target players a few years younger than that so we have a core squad coming into their peak 2 or 3 years from now. With this in mind, and Davies likely unavailable (or over priced for what we want to spend) as he is at Spurs, Robertson then looks the best option available to us.
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Bertrand, Cresswell & Olsson may also be very good options although the very low number of tackles they are making is a concern. Are they simply not being tested much in 1-v-1 situations? Are they world class at staying on their feet and jockeying people away from danger without making a challenge? Or are they too passive and simply back off ensuring they are rarely beaten, foul or make a challenge but cause a lot of problems for their sides?
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This would be the league average group. Alonso was the surprising name in there for me. Although maybe this explains why Chelsea want a 60m left back this summer?
Orange
This would be the group that seem weak in 1-v-1 situations. They are all fouling & being dribbled past more than twice as often as Nathaniel Clyne. Interesting names in group are Chilwell (bullet dodged or still learning?), Milner (sorry James, but I figured this would be his weakest category given he is not a defender and at 31 will be losing some of that explosiveness) Monreal (explains Arsenals need for a new leftback too) and Danny Rose (always thought he was a liability in defence, his improved attacking game and better center backs mopping up behind him maybe is seeing his weaknesses exposed less?)
Outliers
Gibbs & Moreno are both way out on their own, and not in a good way for either. Moreno looks like he could be a good fullback. Hell, maybe even a world class one. However, again, his decision making comes into play. He dives into every challenge. He attempts 4,3 tackles per 90 compared to the second highest in the league 2,99. The league average is 2,1. If he stayed on his feet half the time you expect he would simultaneously reduce his fouling and dribble past numbers too. You 1/2 all his numbers and he would be the best full back in the league in this category by some distance. But that has always been the problem with Alberto, if. He has everything a full back could need to be the Naby Keita of full backs except the brain of one.
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2017, 04:13:23 PM »
He looks like a nice lad with his crooked smile and proper dress sense. Maybe he can help Moreno and Firmino with some new outfits.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2017, 04:15:57 PM »

Best of luck to him, hopefully he can continue his upward trajectory

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2017, 04:16:17 PM »
Good solid signing - if Norbert's happy then so am I

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2017, 04:17:05 PM »
Welcome to Liverpool, Robertson!
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2017, 04:17:41 PM »
We don't need loads of jibba jabba statistics, just a welcome to the club and good luck will do!

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2017, 04:17:56 PM »
Welcome Andy  :)

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2017, 04:17:57 PM »
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2017, 04:18:38 PM »
Hopefully he bulks up a little and builds some more strength. Haven't seen him play much but looks lightweight for a defender.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2017, 04:18:47 PM »
Young immature lean, he'll get better.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2017, 04:21:56 PM »
Young immature lean, he'll get better.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2017, 04:22:10 PM »
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2017, 04:23:10 PM »
So we had Lucas, Coutinho and Firmino, and now that Lucas left we have Robertson.

Or was that Emerson... wait a minute ....

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2017, 04:24:12 PM »

Great to see this one getting done, we really needed a left back. sweaty sock.  8)


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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2017, 04:24:23 PM »
Hopefully does well. Lots of room to improve too which is good.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2017, 04:25:16 PM »
No Robertson announced video?  :(

Think this is a shrewd signing on it's own, but combined with the Stewart sale effectively making it a swap, it's fantastic business.
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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2017, 04:25:44 PM »
Welcome lad and good luck!

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2017, 04:25:57 PM »
Quietly quite excited about this lad.

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2017, 04:25:59 PM »
Welcome to Liverpool football club Andy. :)

If you manage to be as solid as Finnan and Arbeloa were at fullback for us, you'll have done well mate.

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« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2017, 04:26:24 PM »
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/269163-klopp-hails-robertson-s-incredible-personal-journey

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Jürgen Klopp has paid tribute to the 'incredible personal journey' undertaken by Andy Robertson prior to sealing his move to Liverpool today.

And the Reds boss believes the defender's meteoric rise proves he has the necessary characteristics to ensure he continues progressing at Anfield.

Just four years ago, Robertson was earning a living as a supermarket cashier and working at Hampden Park while playing in the fourth tier of Scottish football with amateur outfit Queen's Park.

His performances for the Glasgow club earned him a move to the Premiership with Dundee United, where he continued to excel and gained PFA Scotland Young Player of the Year recognition before sealing a switch to Hull City.

Robertson has since established himself as a capable Premier League performer, leading to 15 senior Scotland caps and his move to LFC.

For Klopp, the never-say-die attitude displayed by the full-back en route to Anfield shows that there is even more to come.

"For Andrew this is another big step on what has been a quite incredible personal journey in a very short space of time," he told Liverpoolfc.com.

“I love his story; where he has come from professionally to reach this point.

"When you speak to him it is clear why he makes his progress. He has a burning love for playing football - he really loves the game.

"His attitude is outstanding - absolutely outstanding. His talent and skills - also very, very good.

"He has experience of this competition, the Premier League, and he has the mentality and quality to get even better.

"I know our environment will benefit him and help him push himself even more than he has already. This is a player who does not limit his ambition, I think."

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Re: Robertsoninho has signed
« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2017, 04:26:27 PM »
Glad it is over and we can focus on other areas.

Hope he can really challenge Milner and ideally take his position.

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