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Re: VAR! Video Assistant Referee & Shite Referees in General
« Reply #25120 on: April 7, 2024, 04:22:28 pm »
Taylor lets foul after foul go City v Arsenal.

Bradley booked 6 mins in.

Yeah good one.

Then no card for Garnacho for a stamp on Darwin, Easter Island Head throws Mo to the ground, Diaz gets flattened, no free kick
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« Reply #25121 on: April 7, 2024, 05:28:30 pm »
Casemiro's straight leg, studs first, both legs off the ground, no ball, Diaz's ankle = yellow card.

Make it make sense.
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« Reply #25122 on: April 7, 2024, 05:31:09 pm »
Casemiro's straight leg, studs first, both legs off the ground, no ball, Diaz's ankle = yellow card.

Make it make sense.
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« Reply #25123 on: April 7, 2024, 06:24:28 pm »
Casemiro's straight leg, studs first, both legs off the ground, no ball, Diaz's ankle = yellow card.

Make it make sense.

very much so... as well as being out of control too:-

Casemiro ankle-high jump challenge on 90+7' (no VAR review?; yellow card) - https://streamin.one/v/861901be & https://xcancel.com/Ballmegamind/status/1777013556879220995






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« Reply #25124 on: April 7, 2024, 06:40:49 pm »
very much so... as well as being out of control too:-

Casemiro ankle-high jump challenge on 90+7' (no VAR review?; yellow card) - https://streamin.one/v/861901be & https://xcancel.com/Ballmegamind/status/1777013556879220995




Wouldn't have made a difference, but if Taylor had given a red VAR wouldn't have overturned it.

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« Reply #25125 on: April 7, 2024, 06:58:28 pm »
Clattenburg will be getting his Parker pen out again and writing to Howard after that non decision with the Maddison punch.

He might actually have a case this time.

The VAR official told the ref that “there was no evidence of violent conduct”.  Other that the several tv cameras that caught Maddison punching the lad in the stomach.  The stuff they come out with is incredible.
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« Reply #25126 on: April 7, 2024, 07:32:03 pm »
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« Reply #25127 on: April 7, 2024, 07:40:57 pm »
Oh but Jones was sent off 2 yards away from that very incident

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« Reply #25128 on: April 7, 2024, 07:42:51 pm »
Spurs' Maddison punching opponent in the stomach (no card given) - https://xcancel.com/AVFCTheReligion/status/1777032857426260337 & https://xcancel.com/callumcasteln/status/1777032260157395308

Thats utterly mad.

From the same VAR who thought it was fine when Onana punched a wolves player

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« Reply #25129 on: April 7, 2024, 07:47:06 pm »
"no evidence of an act of violent conduct"

Beggars belief VAR could watch that & relay that back to the reff. Staggering

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« Reply #25130 on: April 7, 2024, 07:47:57 pm »
Let's face it, VAR is a total and utter failure. All it's done is take any sort of excitement out of scoring a goal.

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« Reply #25131 on: April 7, 2024, 07:48:30 pm »
"no evidence of an act of violent conduct"

Beggars belief VAR could watch that & relay that back to the reff. Staggering

Is it though? It's pretty common place now with Refs and VAR, they're deciding who wins games

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« Reply #25132 on: April 7, 2024, 07:50:19 pm »
 
Is it though? It's pretty common place now with Refs and VAR, they're deciding who wins games

I think there's already a thread for that discussion  ;)

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« Reply #25133 on: April 7, 2024, 07:52:21 pm »

I think there's already a thread for that discussion  ;)

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« Reply #25134 on: April 7, 2024, 10:14:29 pm »
Is it though? It's pretty common place now with Refs and VAR, they're deciding who wins games

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« Reply #25135 on: April 7, 2024, 10:18:34 pm »
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« Reply #25136 on: April 8, 2024, 10:47:16 am »
I actually don't think Taylor was terrible yesterday. Did a fairly decent job overall. Some tackles and bookings questionable, but nothing that's going to swing the game.

I reckon a few on here would have been outraged had the pen been the other way, Elliot's foot gets clipped but not by the defenders initial tackle so it looks a little like a dive, it was his trailing leg that got clipped and caused the foul. Seen it's causing some upset in other areas of the internet.
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« Reply #25137 on: April 8, 2024, 11:11:42 am »
I actually don't think Taylor was terrible yesterday. Did a fairly decent job overall. Some tackles and bookings questionable, but nothing that's going to swing the game.

I reckon a few on here would have been outraged had the pen been the other way, Elliot's foot gets clipped but not by the defenders initial tackle so it looks a little like a dive, it was his trailing leg that got clipped and caused the foul. Seen it's causing some upset in other areas of the internet.

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« Reply #25138 on: April 8, 2024, 11:28:52 am »
Any theories about why Wolverhampton Wanderers seem to be punished by VAR this season? There've been loads of absurd decisions given against them.

I know one poster believes that PGMOL is punishing the Wolves manager for complaining about referees - but that's a sort of chicken and egg question. (Did O'Neil complain about refs and therefore provoke PGMOL to instruct VARs to punish them, or did VAR punish Wolves and inspire O'Neil to complain?) Could it even be prejudice against people from Staffordshire (is that whereWolverhampton is?)? Or perhaps there are lots of WBA supporters in PGMOL? It's mystifying, that's for sure.
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« Reply #25139 on: April 8, 2024, 11:47:25 am »
Any theories about why Wolverhampton Wanderers seem to be punished by VAR this season? There've been loads of absurd decisions given against them.

I know one poster believes that PGMOL is punishing the Wolves manager for complaining about referees - but that's a sort of chicken and egg question. (Did O'Neil complain about refs and therefore provoke PGMOL to instruct VARs to punish them, or did VAR punish Wolves and inspire O'Neil to complain?) Could it even be prejudice against people from Staffordshire (is that whereWolverhampton is?)? Or perhaps there are lots of WBA supporters in PGMOL? It's mystifying, that's for sure.

Early doors it was that disgraceful decision not to give a penno when the Man U keeper flattened the lad.

PGMOL got stick over that and have fucked Wolves every since. Vindictive inbred c*nts.
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« Reply #25140 on: April 8, 2024, 11:50:32 am »
I actually don't think Taylor was terrible yesterday. Did a fairly decent job overall. Some tackles and bookings questionable, but nothing that's going to swing the game.

I reckon a few on here would have been outraged had the pen been the other way, Elliot's foot gets clipped but not by the defenders initial tackle so it looks a little like a dive, it was his trailing leg that got clipped and caused the foul. Seen it's causing some upset in other areas of the internet.

Seriously don’t get that. Off the top of my head, salah getting mauled ignored, bruno telling him to fuck off ignored, giving free kicks every time they fell over, not booking their players for either simulation or dangerous play, constant manhandling of our players at set pieces ignored, not sending casemiro off, time wasting.  In fact i had a bet with the missus he’d boom their keeper on 80mins. Was 79. He’s fucking shite.

On a side note, was there ever a replay of casemiro appearing to handball prior to our pen? Blew a gasket at that point so had to go and cool off for a sec.

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« Reply #25141 on: April 8, 2024, 12:02:08 pm »
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« Reply #25142 on: April 8, 2024, 12:19:34 pm »
There's a clip I've been sent (by and Arsenal fan) that they are saying shows Harvey dived for the pen.  Are my eyes deceiving me?  Wan Bissaka's right foot clearly makes contact with Harvey's left shin, which doesn't buckle because it's planted.  These Arsenal fans are desperate.
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« Reply #25143 on: April 8, 2024, 12:23:24 pm »
There's a clip I've been sent (by and Arsenal fan) that they are saying shows Harvey dived for the pen.  Are my eyes deceiving me?  Wan Bissaka's right foot clearly makes contact with Harvey's left shin, which doesn't buckle because it's planted.  These Arsenal fans are desperate.

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« Reply #25144 on: April 8, 2024, 12:23:38 pm »
Even Neville admitted it was a penalty yesterday. Arsenal fans are really in no position to judge considering how their own players behave.
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« Reply #25145 on: April 8, 2024, 12:24:46 pm »
There's a clip I've been sent (by and Arsenal fan) that they are saying shows Harvey dived for the pen.  Are my eyes deceiving me?  Wan Bissaka's right foot clearly makes contact with Harvey's left shin, which doesn't buckle because it's planted.  These Arsenal fans are desperate.

Agree with this Klopphoey, it’s a definite pen, albeit it may not have been given if Harvey didn’t fall over - so he did. It can be both a ‘dive’ and a pen, it’s not mutually exclusive and weren’t posters saying LFC players needed to go down more …
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« Reply #25146 on: April 8, 2024, 12:30:47 pm »
Arsenal fans complaining about other teams diving :lmao
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« Reply #25147 on: April 8, 2024, 12:32:07 pm »
Even Neville admitted it was a penalty yesterday. Arsenal fans are really in no position to judge considering how their own players behave.

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« Reply #25148 on: April 8, 2024, 12:38:55 pm »
Just saw the Maddison punch. Obviously he punches like a wet lettuce and it likely didn’t hurt the defender, but it was still a punch and a blatant red card. Spurs have had some very strange decisions this season.

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« Reply #25149 on: April 8, 2024, 12:42:07 pm »


On a side note, was there ever a replay of casemiro appearing to handball prior to our pen? Blew a gasket at that point so had to go and cool off for a sec.
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« Reply #25150 on: April 8, 2024, 01:17:55 pm »
Arsenal fans complaining about other teams diving :lmao

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« Reply #25151 on: April 8, 2024, 01:24:10 pm »
It's incredible isn't it  :D
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« Reply #25152 on: April 8, 2024, 01:34:16 pm »
Any theories about why Wolverhampton Wanderers seem to be punished by VAR this season? There've been loads of absurd decisions given against them.

I know one poster believes that PGMOL is punishing the Wolves manager for complaining about referees - but that's a sort of chicken and egg question. (Did O'Neil complain about refs and therefore provoke PGMOL to instruct VARs to punish them, or did VAR punish Wolves and inspire O'Neil to complain?) Could it even be prejudice against people from Staffordshire (is that whereWolverhampton is?)? Or perhaps there are lots of WBA supporters in PGMOL? It's mystifying, that's for sure.

It isn't just this season Yorky.

They received three apologies from Webb last season. It all started when Lopetegui arrived and basically went to war regarding the piss poor levels of officiating in this Country.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/wolves-fa-fines-julen-lopetegui-29645014

The PGMOL were not having that a foreign manager coming over here and demanding apologies and suggesting Webb and his boys were a bit shit. I think you are on the right lines though regarding the PGMOL not liking something about Woverhampton. You yourself have suggested that English players are treated very differently. Well imagine what their reaction would be to basically a Portuguese club playing in the Premier League. It must really infuriate all the gammons at the PGMOL that Jorge Mendes is basically using Wolves to park his players.
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« Reply #25153 on: April 8, 2024, 03:31:05 pm »
How come no one is ever to blame now?

Ref made the call so nothing VAR can do so not VAR fault

Otherwise its

VAR made the call so nothing the Ref can do so not Ref fault

They just pass the buck when it's convenient, no one ever to blame so nothing changes

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« Reply #25154 on: April 8, 2024, 03:43:09 pm »
It isn't just this season Yorky.

They received three apologies from Webb last season. It all started when Lopetegui arrived and basically went to war regarding the piss poor levels of officiating in this Country.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/wolves-fa-fines-julen-lopetegui-29645014

The PGMOL were not having that a foreign manager coming over here and demanding apologies and suggesting Webb and his boys were a bit shit. I think you are on the right lines though regarding the PGMOL not liking something about Woverhampton. You yourself have suggested that English players are treated very differently. Well imagine what their reaction would be to basically a Portuguese club playing in the Premier League. It must really infuriate all the gammons at the PGMOL that Jorge Mendes is basically using Wolves to park his players.

I remember them being dealt a rotten hand by VAR at Anfield in the FA Cup. I think their winner was chalked off because the cameras failed to pick up the key player (a tough one for the conspiracy theorists to explain away*). But I didn't realise that they'd suffered more than that.

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« Reply #25155 on: April 8, 2024, 04:16:04 pm »
Just seen that Maddison punch

These lot have been moaning they’ve been given nothing since the game against us :lmao

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« Reply #25156 on: April 8, 2024, 04:58:54 pm »
Today's ref watch:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13110754/ref-watch-premier-league-and-old-firm-weekend-incidents-analysed-by-former-official-dermot-gallagher

Penalty for us.
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Maddison - VAR decided no "violent conduct".

Other talking points over weekend discussed also.

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« Reply #25157 on: April 8, 2024, 05:35:56 pm »
Today's ref watch:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13110754/ref-watch-premier-league-and-old-firm-weekend-incidents-analysed-by-former-official-dermot-gallagher

Penalty for us.
Wolves "goal" being disallowed was correct decision.
Lamptey challenge was a penalty.
Maddison - VAR decided no "violent conduct".

Other talking points over weekend discussed also.
Is a punch not violent conduct? Maybe they thought he was just tickling him.

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Re: VAR! Video Assistant Referee & Shite Referees in General
« Reply #25158 on: April 8, 2024, 05:48:30 pm »
Is a punch not violent conduct? Maybe they thought he was just tickling him.

The fella covering for the usual fella was having none of it was he? Tells it as it is, he swivelled and punched him in the gut were his words. Same with that shite Dermot came up with over the Diaz goal at Spurs, fucking saying people were banging on and on about it, fuck off prick.

Dermots a fucking liar too - he keeps saying the Protocols mean the ref cannot be sent to the screen by himself and blames IFAB for this. This is from the fucking IFAB website :-

The referee can initiate a ‘review’ for a potential ‘clear and obvious error’ or ‘serious missed incident’ when:

the VAR (or another match official) recommends a ‘review’

the referee suspects that something serious has been ‘missed’


https://www.theifab.com/laws/latest/video-assistant-referee-var-protocol/#procedures

Yates is sat on the floor yelling he's been punched and saying look at the screen. Hooper (the Spurs fan???) could, under the rules, ask to review the footage, as he, from the players reaction, may think that he might have missed something
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Re: VAR! Video Assistant Referee & Shite Referees in General
« Reply #25159 on: April 8, 2024, 05:51:26 pm »
Why do you keep quoting rules, Rob, as if they matter? The acting rules are made on the fly...
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