Author Topic: VAR! Video Assistant Referee & Shite Referees in General (Read 1371295 times)

farawayred · « **Reply #4560 on:** October 4, 2019, 07:40:08 pm »

Quote from: 4pool on October 4, 2019, 07:37:45 pm

Well, another weekend coming up. Wonder what will be the talking points this weekend.

Hopefully, there will be 3, as far as we are concerned.

rob1966 · « **Reply #4561 on:** October 4, 2019, 08:11:30 pm »

Quote from: 4pool on October 4, 2019, 07:37:45 pm

Well, another weekend coming up. Wonder what will be the talking points this weekend.

Brendan getting fuck all at Anfield, Newcastle beating Man Utd and Wolves nicking a draw at the Emptyhad

CraigDS · « **Reply #4562 on:** October 5, 2019, 01:01:12 pm »

What a fucking surprise that it doesn’t over rule another possible pen even though the ref was about 40m away.

rob1966 · « **Reply #4563 on:** October 5, 2019, 01:08:35 pm »

Quote from: Craig 🤔 on October 5, 2019, 01:01:12 pm

What a fucking surprise that it doesn’t over rule another possible pen even though the ref was about 40m away.

That is EXACTLY why VAR was needed, ref far to far away to see, so he fucking guesses at his decision - the TV camera PROVE he was wrong in his guess, yet the fucking shithouses don't overrule him. Fucking joke.

How many times did Hoddle change his mind as well?

rob1966 · « **Reply #4564 on:** October 7, 2019, 07:47:04 am »

Quote from: Jake on October 7, 2019, 07:16:38 am

You pessimist

It's the weather

SteveZissou · « **Reply #4565 on:** October 10, 2019, 10:17:35 pm »

Collina has backed me up. Case closed. Only those who've had two orgasms in a row will understand what real excitement is. You have to know what it's like play the active and passive role all at once, the doer, the receiver, the watcher and the watched.

“I don’t think VAR kills the excitement of a goal celebration, if anything it increases the level of excitement. You get to celebrate twice, when scoring and when it’s confirmed," said Collina.

Full story here
https://www.goal.com/en/news/var-increases-the-level-of-excitement-in-football-says-legendary-/j4tl3qwu1di917mtvfediw6z9

4pool · « **Reply #4566 on:** October 19, 2019, 05:02:45 pm »

VAR has been great today....lol.

SOHC · « **Reply #4567 on:** October 20, 2019, 03:59:26 am »

Hawk-Eye company apologises for VAR confusion
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50112447

The company that provides the Premier League's video assistant referee (VAR) technology has apologised to Tottenham and Watford fans after an incorrect graphic was sent to the big screen during Saturday's 1-1 draw.

Dele Alli rescued a point for Spurs after a VAR review for handball decided the goal had been correctly awarded.

However, initially the big screen wrongly indicated a 'no goal' verdict.

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goliath377 · « **Reply #4568 on:** October 20, 2019, 05:45:07 am »

I've been pro-VAR but I must admit that current implementation of it is shit. Not a tech issue though... Should stick just to offsides this season and come up with a different protocol for other issues.

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #4569 on:** October 20, 2019, 08:29:20 am »

Quote from: 4pool on October 19, 2019, 05:02:45 pm

VAR has been great today....lol.

I thought it worked well bar the slight confusion as posted above.

12C · « **Reply #4570 on:** October 20, 2019, 09:27:34 am »

Quote from: Charlie Adams fried egg right on October 2, 2019, 09:27:50 am

BT need to quietly edge Walton out because he's embarrassing now.

So last night he said there was enough contact to justify Rose's pen, but not enough to justify Bayern's and on Saturday there was not enough contact for Mane's to be a pen.

I'm sure the laws talk about things like trip or attempt to trip, kick or attempt to kick etc. So if that's the case how can "not enough contact for a pen" be a valid consideration.

There is not one pen claim that we've had this season that he's agreed with, but the pens against have all been justified. Was there enough contact for a pen for Abraham in the Super Cup or against Robbo v Napoli.

It's a shambles.

The classic was last season when Pickford touched the ball off the forwards toe but a penno was awarded. Walton said the ref was correct because although Pickford had touched the ball before the man, his momentum carried him into the forward and stopped the forward from regaining the ball.
He just made up an interpretation of the law to justify his mates cock up.
He was shite when he was on the pitch he’s even worse now he actually has time to think of excuses.

aw1991 · « **Reply #4571 on:** October 20, 2019, 05:16:12 pm »

Fuck VAR

۩ Imperator ۩ · « **Reply #4572 on:** October 20, 2019, 05:23:21 pm »

Scandalous.

Linudden · « **Reply #4573 on:** October 20, 2019, 05:23:27 pm »

If they can't even see what Lindelöf did in a fucking replay what's the god damn fucking use of it?

Seriously VAR can get to fuck. Pointless one-minute delays for some fucknut not seen on telly to make the wrong decision regardless. If VAR got stuff right I'd still be 75 % against it but now? Really? Get a grip. Whining about crooked referees is part of what makes football fun anyway.

Raid · « **Reply #4574 on:** October 20, 2019, 05:24:27 pm »

They need to scrap it. Absolute waste of time

Zlen · « **Reply #4575 on:** October 20, 2019, 05:27:26 pm »

This is the first weekend that mainstream pundits openly said the way it's used is absolute shit.
Noise will get even louder after this match.
This is absolutely shocking.

Klopp is 100% bound to get a ban or fine after this game.

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #4576 on:** October 20, 2019, 05:29:11 pm »

Needs fucked off. It's not the system, its the corrupt c*nts behind it.

Linudden · « **Reply #4577 on:** October 20, 2019, 05:29:46 pm »

Quote from: Zlen on October 20, 2019, 05:27:26 pm

This is the first weekend that mainstream pundits openly said the way it's used is absolute shit.
Noise will get even louder after this match.
This is absolutely shocking.

Klopp is 100% bound to get a ban or fine after this game.

There has even been example of a team having their goal ruled out because the other team should've had a penalty 30 seconds before. I mean... modern football was already shit as it was. Give the linesmen/women GPS technology for offsides and otherwise leave it alone.

AndyMuller · « **Reply #4578 on:** October 20, 2019, 05:30:15 pm »

Pointless.

KOTP · « **Reply #4579 on:** October 20, 2019, 05:33:12 pm »

Waste of time having it might as well stick to the usual bent system. No point having something to stop it that doesn't

rob1966 · « **Reply #4580 on:** October 20, 2019, 05:33:41 pm »

Shows the refs for the corrupt c*nts that they are.

Fuck it off and sort the disgrace that is refereeing

The North Bank · « **Reply #4581 on:** October 20, 2019, 05:34:50 pm »

It works in other countries, should be binned here, been an absolute disgrace.

El Lobo · « **Reply #4582 on:** October 20, 2019, 05:35:54 pm »

Quote from: The North Bank on October 20, 2019, 05:34:50 pm

It works in other countries, should be binned here, been an absolute disgrace.

Yep.

It’s pretty obvious the powers that be don’t want it.

RedSince86 · « **Reply #4583 on:** October 20, 2019, 05:50:13 pm »

Quote from: rob1966 on October 20, 2019, 05:33:41 pm

Shows the refs for the corrupt c*nts that they are.

Fuck it off and sort the disgrace that is refereeing

The demise of refereeing in the PL coincided with Mike Riley's appointment as the head of Referees.

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #4584 on:** October 20, 2019, 06:52:08 pm »

You knew sooner or later we were gonna get VAR'd. Just so happens it's at OT. What an absolute shocker of a surprise there, eh? Dare I say it, and don't hate me for saying it, but next it'll be against Abu Dhabi FC. It's not just us, and today isn't the only reason. Just look at the fucking state of the decisions yesterday. These c*nts would fuck up a cup of coffee if you asked them to make you one. They have the benefit of about 40 camera angles, slow motion, zoom lenses, the lot. And they still fuck up a big call. Occam's razor suggests the obvious, if you really think about it for more than 5 seconds.

thejbs · « **Reply #4585 on:** October 20, 2019, 06:59:55 pm »

Watching Premier league officials using this technology is like watching your Grandad try to use a smartphone.

wheresnemeth · « **Reply #4586 on:** October 20, 2019, 07:04:27 pm »

I'm not sure that I understand the meaning of clear and obvious anymore, since the introduction of Var in the premier league. The worst part of some of the horrible decisions is the mental gymnastics and convoluted explanations by some commentators to justify poor decisions made by the VAR ref.

4pool · « **Reply #4587 on:** October 20, 2019, 07:12:43 pm »

Referee: Martin Atkinson.
Assistants: Lee Betts, Constantine Hatzidakis.
Fourth official: Jonathan Moss.
VAR: David Coote. He's ref'd 3 PL matches and 3 Championship matches this season.
Assistant VAR: Marc Perry. Mainly an Assistant Ref for matches.

El Lobo · « **Reply #4588 on:** October 20, 2019, 07:21:42 pm »

Quote from: thejbs on October 20, 2019, 06:59:55 pm

Watching Premier league officials using this technology is like watching your Grandad try to use a smartphone.

Nah.

This is very much the same as doing housework. Mum used to ask to hoover the living, I’d leave crumbs all over the carpet. Doesn’t mean I don’t know how to use the Dyson....just didn’t want to do it again.

Xabisfeet · « **Reply #4589 on:** October 20, 2019, 07:37:36 pm »

Interesting that Jurgen suggested that the (embarrassingly home banker) ref was inclined to play on for Man U's goal as he would be thinking that VAR would identify any foul that might have occurred.

Of course it didn't for reasons we are well aware of.

VAR is wrong for so many reasons. This is another one for the list

BoRed · « **Reply #4590 on:** October 20, 2019, 07:41:24 pm »

Quote from: 4pool on October 20, 2019, 07:12:43 pm

VAR: David Coote. He's ref'd 3 PL matches and 3 Championship matches this season.

So they picked a guy with zero experience to be VAR at the biggest game in the league?

Watch him mysteriously rise through the ranks in the coming months. He'll probably be appointed ref when we play them at Anfield in January.

Agent99 · « **Reply #4591 on:** October 20, 2019, 08:13:08 pm »

Quote from: thejbs on October 20, 2019, 06:59:55 pm

Watching Premier league officials using this technology is like watching your Grandad try to use a smartphone.

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soxfan · « **Reply #4592 on:** October 20, 2019, 08:18:12 pm »

Quote from: thejbs on October 20, 2019, 06:59:55 pm

Watching Premier league officials using this technology is like watching your ~~Grandad~~ Grandson try to use a ~~smartphone~~ tool.

wheresnemeth · « **Reply #4593 on:** October 20, 2019, 08:20:40 pm »

Quote from: BoRed on October 20, 2019, 07:41:24 pm

So they picked a guy with zero experience to be VAR at the biggest game in the league?

Watch him mysteriously rise through the ranks in the coming months. He'll probably be appointed ref when we play them at Anfield in January.

How much experience does one need to call and obvious foul, that's clearly visible on a tv screen.

HeartAndSoul · « **Reply #4594 on:** October 20, 2019, 09:32:45 pm »

VAR is shite. It’s pretty much there for offsides and handballs. You’ll get away with fouls and diving still. What’s the fucking point of it. Why doesn’t the referee go have another look at the decision if the VAR refs are checking it and hold their hands up and say they made a mistake at that time

The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #4595 on:** October 20, 2019, 09:51:05 pm »

Why can't they review the incidents like they do in MLS on the side of the pitch?

DangerScouse · « **Reply #4596 on:** October 20, 2019, 09:55:20 pm »

Quote from: The G in Gerrard on October 20, 2019, 09:51:05 pm

Why can't they review the incidents like they do in MLS on the side of the pitch?

And the Bunseliga. Watched Frankfurt/Leverkusen on Friday. VAR was used flawlessly with the ref able to view and over rule his own decisions on the side of the pitch.

Something Worse · « **Reply #4597 on:** October 20, 2019, 10:02:30 pm »

Every referee needs terminating. Every one. Start over. If they're too arrogant to accept VAR decisions, they shouldn't be refereeing.

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #4598 on:** October 20, 2019, 10:06:00 pm »

May as well get rid of it. If you're going to retain the same useless c*nts as before you had the technology you're probably still going to get the same useless c*nts making the same shit decisions as you did before they had the technology. Seems my hopes were too high for VAR and reality is setting in.

Kekule · « **Reply #4599 on:** October 20, 2019, 10:53:18 pm »

Bunch of middle aged blokes, whose job it is to run around after incredibly fit men between 10 and 20 years their junior and in their physical prime playing a very quick game, are given a tool to make their job that bit easier. Many people have an element of sympathy with them as it’s almost universally accepted it’s a tough sport to keep up with and get every decision correct 100% of the time.

Instead of accepting and embracing it in an attempt to improve the overall performance of their profession, they get all precious about the suggestion that they might be infallible, and not able to keep up with everything going on on the field of the play. So instead they use it to pretend to themselves that they are omnipotent, rarely if ever make a mistake and make the whole thing a back patting exercise. And then somehow delude themselves into believing that everyone else can’t see right through it.

It’s just a bit sad, really. I think we all know someone who gets very defensive at the suggestion they might be wrong about something. It seems the head of PGMOL is one of them. I don’t know, maybe getting to that level of referee requires a certain level of arrogance and supreme self belief if you’ve got to put up with people arguing with you for 90 minutes a couple of times a week. An element of humility wouldn’t go amiss though.