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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ol8 from Molde!" Pogba: An Enigma wrapped in a noodle.
« Reply #34120 on: September 12, 2019, 03:10:50 AM »
I agree, but I should have made my context clearer. In the grand scheme of things he did ok, at least early on. I was talking in the context of what they (or the ones who really wanted him) expected he'd bring them. I was listening to a United fan who believed he would be their saviour and put them back to where they used to be under Ferguson. In that context, and taking his tenure as a whole, he was disastrous. He also left them in a worse state than he found them. Most clubs would be very content with his trophy haul at OT, but he fell woefully short of the expectations that many had of him. This was a man who never tires of telling people how many titles and European Cups he's won. More than a few of them thought he was the man who was going to take them back to where they believe they belong.

Oh yeah, in terms of United fan's expectations, it was a disaster. Mourinho can walk away from that period with a certain degree of smugness in his "success" there. But if he was supposed to put them back on top, they'd have been just as well hiring Limmy. ;D
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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ol8 from Molde!" Pogba: An Enigma wrapped in a noodle.
« Reply #34121 on: September 12, 2019, 04:02:49 AM »
In the bedroom it's not him that's wearing it.

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ol8 from Molde!" Pogba: An Enigma wrapped in a noodle.
« Reply #34122 on: September 12, 2019, 06:17:56 AM »
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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ol8 from Molde!" Pogba: An Enigma wrapped in a noodle.
« Reply #34123 on: September 12, 2019, 07:14:15 AM »
In the bedroom it's not him that's wearing it.

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« Reply #34124 on: September 12, 2019, 07:28:20 AM »
I agree, but I should have made my context clearer. In the grand scheme of things he did ok, at least early on. I was talking in the context of what they (or the ones who really wanted him) expected he'd bring them. I was listening to a United fan who believed he would be their saviour and put them back to where they used to be under Ferguson. In that context, and taking his tenure as a whole, he was disastrous. He also left them in a worse state than he found them. Most clubs would be very content with his trophy haul at OT, but he fell woefully short of the expectations that many had of him. This was a man who never tires of telling people how many titles and European Cups he's won. More than a few of them thought he was the man who was going to take them back to where they believe they belong.

Agreed

He constantly looked for short fixes. Buying success was easy at Chelsea where all other clubs were do not have Chelsea riches and FFP hasn’t come into play.

However his time at Utd where City, Chelsea all had unlimited funds plus us who are on the up, he found shown himself to be what he truly is, an old school coach who is out of touch. A one trick pony.

He also turned every club he worked for into a toxic environment and an old age retirement home.

It is therefore no surprise no top clubs have gone for him a season after getting the sack. His days are over.

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ol8 from Molde!" Pogba: An Enigma wrapped in a noodle.
« Reply #34125 on: September 12, 2019, 07:29:30 AM »
Would love to see him being interviewed by sky wearing a gimp mask.

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ol8 from Molde!" Pogba: An Enigma wrapped in a noodle.
« Reply #34126 on: September 12, 2019, 07:45:16 AM »
Not sure he was a disaster. He certainly managed for the short-term (which, it be fair, is the only way to be in most of top level management, and is a trait throughout Mourinho's entire career), but in the 2 and a half seasons he managed United, they won a League Cup, a Europa League, and finished second. Not sure they'll be eyeing up those prospects for a fair while now.

In the Europa they had a pretty easy group and they played no-one of note in the knockouts. Luckily I missed the final as we were flying to America, only just seen the stats, I didn't realise they only had 33% possession and 6 shots, 4 on target, over the 90 minutes.
While they did knock Abu Dhabi out in the League Cup, their other opponents were Northampton, West Ham and Hull then Southampton in the final, who I seem to remember were the better team.

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ol8 from Molde!" Pogba: An Enigma wrapped in a noodle.
« Reply #34127 on: September 12, 2019, 07:54:35 AM »
In the Europa they had a pretty easy group and they played no-one of note in the knockouts. Luckily I missed the final as we were flying to America, only just seen the stats, I didn't realise they only had 33% possession and 6 shots, 4 on target, over the 90 minutes.
While they did knock Abu Dhabi out in the League Cup, their other opponents were Northampton, West Ham and Hull then Southampton in the final, who I seem to remember were the better team.

We can't mock Northampton as an easy league cup fixture.
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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ol8 from Molde!" Pogba: An Enigma wrapped in a noodle.
« Reply #34128 on: September 12, 2019, 08:17:30 AM »
Meeting up with 4 of them this weekend at a wedding in Majorca.  They will be avoiding me like the plague.  Last time I saw them I told them there season will be over by the end of August. Wasn't far wrong. 
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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ol8 from Molde!" Pogba: An Enigma wrapped in a noodle.
« Reply #34129 on: September 12, 2019, 08:38:55 AM »
We can't mock Northampton as an easy league cup fixture.

We can
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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ol8 from Molde!" Pogba: An Enigma wrapped in a noodle.
« Reply #34131 on: September 12, 2019, 09:14:22 AM »
No, we can.

Losing to a team in a cup tie after putting out a shocking team managed by a shocking manager doesn’t mean we can’t go ‘thats an easy game for them’.
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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ol8 from Molde!" Pogba: An Enigma wrapped in a noodle.
« Reply #34132 on: September 12, 2019, 10:40:04 AM »
Would love to see him being interviewed by sky wearing a gimp mask.
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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ol8 from Molde!" Pogba: An Enigma wrapped in a noodle.
« Reply #34133 on: September 12, 2019, 10:41:33 AM »
You can wear whatever you want while watching TV mate.

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ol8 from Molde!" Pogba: An Enigma wrapped in a noodle.
« Reply #34134 on: September 12, 2019, 10:43:47 AM »
Is it a green and gold gimp mask?

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ol8 from Molde!" Pogba: An Enigma wrapped in a noodle.
« Reply #34135 on: September 12, 2019, 10:46:53 AM »
Is it a green and gold gimp mask?

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« Reply #34136 on: September 12, 2019, 11:02:39 AM »
No such thing as an "easy" fixture for United anymore.  Whilst some teams will always be easier than others, they can't take any result for granted.  Even Everton can't be considered guaranteed points anymore, now that they've got a new blue boyfriend to bend over for.
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« Reply #34137 on: September 12, 2019, 12:37:26 PM »
He meant FARCE! Not Force! It's the only way the sentence could make sense.

I don't smell any farce...
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« Reply #34138 on: September 12, 2019, 02:18:16 PM »
I know he gets a lot of stick, rightfully so, but I actually think trying it overseas was a decent idea - away from the Sky Sports Generation.  I can't imagine how bad its going to get for Lampard over the next few months....

Trying it overseas was the daftest bit about it. Starting a job you've never done without knowing a word of the language, basically because he didn't want to be seen as chicken for turning it down.

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« Reply #34139 on: September 12, 2019, 04:11:35 PM »
I don't smell any farce...

The farces is strong with this one.
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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ol8 from Molde!" Pogba: An Enigma wrapped in a noodle.
« Reply #34140 on: September 12, 2019, 04:13:29 PM »
The scenes when Maguire scores an own goal to give Leicester the win on Saturday.

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« Reply #34141 on: September 12, 2019, 05:01:59 PM »
The scenes when Maguire scores an own goal to give Leicester the win on Saturday.

Quite a head on  the post-match ales...
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« Reply #34142 on: September 12, 2019, 05:29:53 PM »
The scenes when Maguire scores an own goal to give Leicester the win on Saturday.
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« Reply #34143 on: September 12, 2019, 08:55:54 PM »
Trying it overseas was the daftest bit about it. Starting a job you've never done without knowing a word of the language, basically because he didn't want to be seen as chicken for turning it down.

Especially when he's still struggling with English.
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« Reply #34144 on: September 12, 2019, 09:09:28 PM »
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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ol8 from Molde!" Pogba: An Enigma wrapped in a noodle.
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« Reply #34146 on: September 13, 2019, 11:05:54 AM »
:lmao

Ouch!! They will be in the bottom half of the table come Saturday night  ;D

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« Reply #34147 on: September 13, 2019, 11:27:54 AM »
Ouch!! They will be in the bottom half of the table come Saturday night  ;D

Better than having a clown running up and down the touchline though ;D

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« Reply #34148 on: September 13, 2019, 11:36:26 AM »
Better than having a clown running up and down the touchline though ;D
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« Reply #34149 on: September 13, 2019, 11:37:58 AM »
Beasted them in pre season. Fittest they’ve ever been I heard.

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« Reply #34150 on: September 13, 2019, 11:43:41 AM »
Beasted them in pre season. Fittest they’ve ever been I heard.

Unbeaten during pre-season. They were back.

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« Reply #34151 on: September 13, 2019, 11:45:14 AM »
Is Wan Bissaka a good player then? Ive seen him a few times v us and thought he looked a good player,but as far as other games go in the premier league ive seen fuck all of him.

Im only asking cos people seem to scoff at any sign of his name being mentioned,which actually surprises me
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« Reply #34152 on: September 13, 2019, 11:47:55 AM »
He’s ok, but he’s not £50m good. Relatively solid defensively but not very good going forward.

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« Reply #34153 on: September 13, 2019, 11:49:22 AM »
Is Wan Bissaka a good player then? Ive seen him a few times v us and thought he looked a good player,but as far as other games go in the premier league ive seen fuck all of him.

Im only asking cos people seem to scoff at any sign of his name being mentioned,which actually surprises me

He's fast and really strong defensively from what I've seen. I think people scoff because he's being talked up as an offensive threat and as good as/better than TAA, when he's nothing of the sort. In attack he offers nothing.

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« Reply #34154 on: September 13, 2019, 11:52:21 AM »
Yeah, stood out at Palace as they defend a lot. Different ask to go to a side where in theory you’re expected to dominate a bit more. Not to say he can’t do it but the jury is definitely out.

Loves a tackle. Saw after 3 games he’d made about 13 and in comparison Trent had made 1. You have to ask why he’s making that many in the first place though, haven’t seen him enough but is his first touch really bad or something?!
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« Reply #34155 on: September 13, 2019, 11:53:48 AM »
Yeah it does beg the question if he’s out of position and relying on his pace to get back and tackle. Fine against most of the league but will be found out against good pacey players (like Mane).

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« Reply #34156 on: September 13, 2019, 11:56:06 AM »
Yeah read loads about how he's a beer full back than TAA. He's played less than a dozen games and apart from making a few tackles done the square root of fuck all up the field
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« Reply #34157 on: September 13, 2019, 11:57:02 AM »
He's got the speed to get back - but loves going to ground and attempts to slide tackle a lot. And then is immediately praised by commentators for his defensive nous.

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« Reply #34158 on: September 13, 2019, 12:06:36 PM »
Looks like one of those defenders who reacts rather than anticipates. They tend to look good on MOTD, because their whole thing is legging it back and making last ditch tackles, but better players just get it right first time positionally. You rarely see VVD go to ground because he never lets things get that far.
Offers absolutely nothing going forwards, either.

There was some state about him having the highest success rate from crosses that was being bandied about, but the truth is he rarely hits crosses in the first place. He has no assists to his name.

Still a young lad, so the positional stuff can improve, you would expect him to get better there. Might even end up as a useful centre half. Could probably play as a Skrtel-style sweeper.

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« Reply #34159 on: September 13, 2019, 12:09:59 PM »
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:lmao

I was under the (apparently) wrong impression that Martial is injury prone.  My perception is that in a lot of previews over the past few seasons he's been struggling or a doubt but it seems he's had hardly any injuries, only 14 games missed in the past three seasons.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/anthony-martial/verletzungen/spieler/182877

I expect Wan-Bissaka is only a 'doubt' because he withdrew from the England squad so they need to be seen to be worrying over his fitness.  Pound to a penny he plays against Leicester.