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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2920 on: January 3, 2019, 11:23:09 PM »
Some peopleís heads normally go after we lose any game but some of the stuff being posted about Trent tonight is absolutely bizarre.

Weíve got one of the best young players in the world at the moment in Trent and some are questioning his mentality and arguing he should be replaced by Matt Doherty.

Itís hard to know whether some of this stuff is a joke or not.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2921 on: January 3, 2019, 11:24:53 PM »
I dont get the criticism.  He was fine today. Sane is a tough cover for any right back.

He didn't cost us 2 goals, unlike a certain incredibly experienced defender.
Yeah he did well against Sane who is very hard to defend against when in full flow.

If anyone wants to be be really picky, yes, he only made one 'mistake' in 90 mins and that allowed the ball to travel under his foot into the goal.
A more experienced defender would anticipate Sane shaping up for that and at least get something on it.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2922 on: January 3, 2019, 11:27:10 PM »
Some peopleís heads normally go after we lose any game but some of the stuff being posted about Trent tonight is absolutely bizarre.

Weíve got one of the best young players in the world at the moment in Trent and some are questioning his mentality and arguing he should be replaced by Matt Doherty.

Itís hard to know whether some of this stuff is a joke or not.

Iím not saying he isnít a great player, struggled tonight and needs to deal with it mentally better.

I wasnít apart of the Doherty shout, but if given the opportunity to replace him with a right sided clone of robbo I would.

Having said that, I think one day TAA might be better than Robbo but not today and today we are in a title race.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2923 on: January 3, 2019, 11:27:52 PM »
So a 20 year old who has been a great addition to a defence thats only let in 10 goals in the league so far and has fantastic contributions going forward is not at an elite level because he didnt have his best game against a great team and a great player in Sane. What a load of rubbish!

Great player, elite level, one of the best in his position in the league.

That was his left leg by the way who served an exquisite pass. He is just going to get better as well.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2924 on: January 3, 2019, 11:29:38 PM »
Some of you guys should get off the internet after a loss. Youíre spouting absolute nonsense
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2925 on: January 3, 2019, 11:32:34 PM »
Feel like we're always here in this position with Trent after we lose. It's not very often since he's been a member of the squad in general but there's always a bit of crysarsing about him. Don't get me wrong tonight I thought he was poor for the most part, but he struggled massively in that 5-0 loss last season, and to see him play poorly again doesn't mean he hasn't come on as a player massively.

Anyone could struggle against the likes of Sane in a game City needed to win as much as that. It's one of those fixtures the likes of Trent/Sane could play 20 times in their careers and maybe you'd come out with an even number each as to how many times the other has done a number on their man.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2926 on: January 3, 2019, 11:34:00 PM »
He did create our goal...

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2927 on: January 3, 2019, 11:35:11 PM »
Having said that, I think one day TAA might be better than Robbo but not today and today we are in a title race.

Has Trent not been a regular in the team that is leading the title race?

Same as he was a big part of us getting to the CL final.  And heís just turned 20.

Youíre talking rubbish about him, complete and utter nonsense. 

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2928 on: January 3, 2019, 11:35:27 PM »
Thought he was ok myself but you can see the difference between Robertson/VVD on the other side.

He and Lovren need to work on their communication as Lovren was DREADFUL in cleaning up when City were in.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2929 on: January 3, 2019, 11:39:06 PM »
I donít think he played poorly at all. When fabinho came on yes that allowed the full backs to get involved further up the field leading to the goal but at 1-1 hes outnumbered on a counter attack vs aguero and sane and they end up scoring. I thought he was brave on the ball aswell in his own half a number of times. For a local lad to distance himself from the task at hand takes balls in itself especially when hes as young as he is. Weíre lucky to have him and robertson for the next 10ish years barring injuries if you ask me
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2930 on: January 3, 2019, 11:39:55 PM »
Our formation generally puts Trent in a situation where he has to deal with an overload.

He deals with it brilliantly almost every time. 

While doing that he continues to give us a quality offensive output.

He is 20 fucking years old.

Criticisms of Trent would be better directed at the formation, which see's us 4 points clear in the league in January.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2931 on: January 3, 2019, 11:44:15 PM »
They overloaded his side and he was left 1v1 and 2v1 against one of the best wide players in the world on so many occasions. He was hung out to dry tactically and had way too much to deal with. I'm pretty sure that was a tactical risk by Klopp that didn't pay off, but it's absolutely bizarre to be criticising him for this performance.

I think he can improve defensively in 1v1 situations, but his performance today was absolutely fine given the situations he had to deal with.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2932 on: January 3, 2019, 11:48:15 PM »
Do me a favour. The lads done alright. When he's in the stands against Wolves he's a hero, now not. Where's the support. TAA great young talent.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2933 on: January 3, 2019, 11:48:41 PM »
Not a great game but seriously let down by Lovren.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2934 on: January 3, 2019, 11:48:55 PM »
We have one, Nathaniel Clyne. Heís an excellent defender, doesnít do as much as TAA going forward but he is solid at the back.

Yea never at fault for a goal. Part of an impregnable defence. Jesus wept

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2935 on: January 3, 2019, 11:52:54 PM »
The ball for our goal was a thing of beauty

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2936 on: January 3, 2019, 11:53:33 PM »
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2937 on: January 4, 2019, 12:00:01 AM »
Not a great game but seriously let down by Lovren.

And the midfield.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2938 on: January 4, 2019, 12:03:54 AM »
Has Trent not been a regular in the team that is leading the title race?

Same as he was a big part of us getting to the CL final.  And heís just turned 20.

Youíre talking rubbish about him, complete and utter nonsense.

So Robertson is not better than him at present? Saying that is nonsense and rubbish? Come on mate.

Pick apart my argument if you like, Iíll wait. Truth is I have said he is great going forward, but they do try and expose him for a reason, and he needs to improve defensively to be able to deal with that. He is going to have to get tougher mentally and deal with this because it will happen again, and again if he doesnít prove that he isnít capable of dealing with it.

I wasnít the poster that suggested to replace him, He has a ceiling that could easily see him be the best in the world. I donít think there is anyone in the world that could replace him at our club.

My argument still stands.


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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2939 on: January 4, 2019, 12:07:36 AM »
Yea never at fault for a goal. Part of an impregnable defence. Jesus wept

Name me one defender that was ďimpregnableĒ prior to the Van Dijk transfer?

I think Clyne is solid in defence, donít you?

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2940 on: January 4, 2019, 12:10:39 AM »
My argument still stands.

And itís a really bad argument. 

Heís quality now and he will be world class with a bit of time and patience.  In large part because Trent has an excellent attitude, strong mentality and outstanding character.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2941 on: January 4, 2019, 12:10:58 AM »
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Hello 👋

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Pleasure to meet you by the way, Kev. Great game this morning, but unlucky with the goal clearance and being honest, Kompany should have walked. Hopefully this doesnít derail our push. We were unlucky

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2942 on: January 4, 2019, 12:11:28 AM »
And itís a really bad argument. 

Heís quality now and he will be world class with a bit of time and patience.  In large part because Trent has an excellent attitude, strong mentality and outstanding character.

Needs to improve.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2943 on: January 4, 2019, 12:12:35 AM »
Name me one defender that was ďimpregnableĒ prior to the Van Dijk transfer?

I think Clyne is solid in defence, donít you?

No defender was impregnable before Van Dijk. No defender is impregnable now, including Van Dijk.

Clynes is reasonably solid, yes, but not as solid as Alexander-Arnold.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2944 on: January 4, 2019, 12:13:38 AM »
Hello 👋

Is there a few Kev Lumleys?

Pleasure to meet you by the way, Kev. Great game this morning, but unlucky with the goal clearance and being honest, Kompany should have walked. Hopefully this doesn’t derail our push. We were unlucky

Fair play, nice to meet you.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2945 on: January 4, 2019, 12:16:11 AM »
Needs to improve.

And he will.

Heís just turned 20 FFS.  Heís played in a World Cup, a CL final and is an established first-team regular at a club that is four points clear at the top of the PL.

Get some perspective and learn some patience.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2946 on: January 4, 2019, 12:22:34 AM »
Name me one defender that was ďimpregnableĒ prior to the Van Dijk transfer?

I think Clyne is solid in defence, donít you?


No I don't. He regularly lost the flight of balls from set pieces but has been elevated to legend status since his injuries. He's not great going forward either.
That said he's largely dependable but I think overall 20 year old TAA is already at least as good and can only improve.  He has fuck all to do with the reason we lost tonight.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2947 on: January 4, 2019, 12:25:35 AM »
And he will.

Heís just turned 20 FFS.  Heís played in a World Cup, a CL final and is an established first-team regular at a club that is four points clear at the top of the PL.

Get some perspective and some patience.

I think you merged me and that other poster and you think Iím being a lot more negative than I actually am, are you confusing me for the Doherty guy? concentrate on the ďnonsense and rubbishĒ that I am apparently writing.

We are pretty much saying the same thing, you in a glass half full kind way and me in a glass half empty kind of way. Kudos to you, I probably need a bit of positivity in my world.

Iím still going to stand by my point that he needs to improve in situations in which teams target him, it will happen again, multiple times this season. Waiting for him to age will not help us, he will probably still be 20 when the trophy is lifted. He needs to work and improve now, on the training track, in the tactics room. 2 years time wonít help us when the Manchester clubs have spent a billion more between them. This is an important time for Liverpool.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2948 on: January 4, 2019, 12:27:56 AM »
Matt Doherty :lmao

I said we should sign Dummett last night and no fucker fell for it. Someone says we should look at Doherty and you all think heís being serious.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2949 on: January 4, 2019, 12:28:02 AM »
I think tonight showed that we would do well to get another Right back.

TAA not good enough yet at the elite level. It is no wonder city focused virtually all their attacks on the right.

Perhaps a bid for Doherty? (New Andy Robertson). Should give TAA the pressure to either up his defensive game, or sit out for such games.

But clearly deficient on this level...and not showing signs of improving.

Oi what about Clyne? Is it guaranteed that he is leaving?

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2950 on: January 4, 2019, 12:28:36 AM »
I'm really scratching my head here and a bit lost for words at what I'm reading -  1st league loss of the season after 21 games and some have pitchforks out for a young lad who did not play badly at all,  in an away game against the supposed best side the premier league has ever seen!

Suppose it was going to happen as soon as we lost that none of our players were proclaimed as good enough, Klopp picked he wrong team etc etc but fuck me, some people really need to catch on to theirselves. We did not play badly, we could've maybe played better but we were brave and competed and them city players knew they had been in a game and by christ that 20 year old right back of ours showed some balls out there against a world class attack, some times alone - maybe some of the online fan base can show a small percentage of them balls and back him and the rest of the team 100% of the time.

17 games to go and 4 points in front of the league, I think if that was offered at the start of December when we were 2 points adrift and 14 goals worse off, we all would have snatched hands, arms, any limb going off -  there aren't anymore one on one games against us for city to gain points directly now, we match their results for the rest of the season and we win. We win first they when we play first they have to suffer and we have seen how that works for them. At least let's not bottle it in the stands at the first minor set back and then rage against the team if the do lose just to 'be right on the internet'  - proper shitehouse behaviour that, and if that cap fits... wear it.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2951 on: January 4, 2019, 12:28:47 AM »
Some fucking embarrassing shouts in here. Jesus

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2952 on: January 4, 2019, 12:29:17 AM »
My 4000th post on here - happy for it to be one defending Trent. The lad is 20, absolutely elite level, and anybody criticising him is completely off their nut. Love Trent and proud he represents us.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2953 on: January 4, 2019, 12:31:06 AM »
No I don't. He regularly lost the flight of balls from set pieces but has been elevated to legend status since his injuries. He's not great going forward either.
That said he's largely dependable but I think overall 20 year old TAA is already at least as good and can only improve.  He has fuck all to do with the reason we lost tonight.

We were unlucky tonight and Lovren is a Jekyll and Hyde defender that we can not afford, should have been improved apon 2 years ago, he isnít our top choice anymore and injuries have forced our hand.

TAA didnít play well tonight but you may have seen the game different. I can sometimes watch games a little too closely.

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« Reply #2954 on: January 4, 2019, 12:32:26 AM »
You'd have to be a serious numpty to be criticising him tonight. A team and manager as fucking good as ours puts its faith in him to progress the ball forwards like a midfielder, while also defending his flank against the biggest counter threat in the league.

But some people think he 'looks weak' or 'lacks mentally' or some other weird shit. Guess he fucking deserves it for being young, the bastard

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2955 on: January 4, 2019, 12:38:19 AM »
We have to accept that he's technically excellent but not a great defender.

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« Reply #2956 on: January 4, 2019, 12:39:59 AM »
We have to accept that he's technically excellent but not a great defender.

No we don't. Ignorance is voluntary.

English football and punditry is full of this dumb idea that good at defending equals bad at attacking and vice versa.

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« Reply #2957 on: January 4, 2019, 12:40:54 AM »
We have to accept that he's technically excellent but not a great defender.

You do know he turned 20 like two months ago, right? Iím not an expert but thereís a decent chance he might be able to get better. 19 isnít usually a defenders peak....
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2958 on: January 4, 2019, 12:41:34 AM »
We have to accept that he's technically excellent but not a great defender.

That's not true though, he's put in some sublime performances keeping very dangerous players quite even when he's been targetted. That performance against Sane last season was outstanding and the vast majority of defenders in the world would get shown up by Sane who has pace, trickery and good reading of the game to position himself in dangerous areas AND change up his game going both inside and out

Trents one of the best young fullbacks in world football. The thing is, he's young. Poor games will happen and its all part of the learning process, he'll be a much better player for it and he'll learn from it all. The lads actually a very good defender and a lot of the positioning from him is overlooked but I couldn't tell you the sheer amount of times I notice in games we look likely to concede and up pops Trent tucking in and covering his CB's

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« Reply #2959 on: January 4, 2019, 12:45:26 AM »
You do know he turned 20 like two months ago, right? Iím not an expert but thereís a decent chance he might be able to get better. 19 isnít usually a defenders peak....
Such a weird game for these critics to desperately rush out of the woodwork though. It's not like he played badly.

But even if he somehow put in a terrible performance, you have to be extremely reactionary to suddenly think "well, he can't defend" based on one game per season. It'd be like Ferguson watching peak Vidic in games against Torres and shipping him out because he 'looks weak mentally' or whatever meaningless euphemism people use to criticise him.

Some people are just weirdly dubious about talented footballers.