Topic: Brazilian Porn Review Topic (Warning: may contain Wijnaldum)

[Giono]

He also is still recovering from a serious bug. Still doesn’t look like he has regained all the weight he lost.

[elpistolero7]

Underestimate us you fucking cheating wankers.

They have fluked their way to the final. Our 'average' midfield will press them all the way back up Uefa's corrupt arseholes.

Most entitled bunch of pricks on the planet. I want 'average' Milner to bang in one from 30 yards and celebrate with a cup of peppermint tea, and give tap-in boy a soggy biscuit.

[BabuYagu]

Good to see he is starting today.

Gini Starts Against Top 6
P13 W7 D5 L1 PPG 2,00

Gini Not Starting Against Top 6
P6 W0 D4 L2 PPG 0,67





Just Away Games of the Above
Gini Starts Against Top 6
P6 W2 D3 L1 PPG 1,50

Gini Not Starting Against Top 6
P3 W0 D1 L2 PPG 0,33

[Bobinhood]

Plus hes the only guy i know who can reasonably be called 'The Windjammer".

[BabuYagu]

Plus hes the only guy i know who can reasonably be called 'The Windjammer".

Commentators in Brazil hate saying his name. For a start there is effectively no W in the Portuguese language. So they pronounce it V instead. Then it just goes downhill from there due the distinct lack of vowels where they would want them

[El Lobo]

Gonna score again today, he’s got got the taste for it now

[BER]

Today has summed up his season. Takes flattering to deceive to a whole new level.

[Upinsmoke]

Good to see he is starting today.

Gini Starts Against Top 6
P13 W7 D5 L1 PPG 2,00

Gini Not Starting Against Top 6
P6 W0 D4 L2 PPG 0,67





Just Away Games of the Above
Gini Starts Against Top 6
P6 W2 D3 L1 PPG 1,50

Gini Not Starting Against Top 6
P3 W0 D1 L2 PPG 0,33

Good one.

[Cusamano]

So poor

Away from home I dont think he should start

[Henry Gale]

So poor

Away from home I dont think he should start

Come next season he won't be starting at all. Squad player next season home or away.

[wige]

You guys are clueless. Sorry, sure you're lovely lads, but was very good today. Not Wijnaldums fault that we've lost all of our midfielders that break lines.

Retained the ball, defended well, covered acres.

Honestly, utterly clueless anyone saying he's not a very good player.

[RyanBabel19]

Here comes the away from home tidal wave

Never mind the fact he just scored the goal to put us into a CL final... away from home

[El Lobo]

He was absolutely fine today

[swoopy]

Jesus Christ some people on here!

He was fine today

[BER]

He was absolutely fine today

[Too early for flapjacks?]

Lol did some of you even watch the game and understand the role he was asked to play? He did fine.

[BabuYagu]

Lol did some of you even watch the game and understand the role he was asked to play? He did fine.

It's weird, none of them have posted in the Robertson thread about his performance today. Wonder why?

[OkieRedman]

He was ok? I guess he wasn't terrible, but he has zero confidence in his passing ability. He refused to pass a ball between defenders into one of the forward's feet. Our tempo was miles better once Henderson came on.   

[BabuYagu]

He was ok? I guess he wasn't terrible, but he has zero confidence in his passing ability. He refused to pass a ball between defenders into one of the forward's feet. Our tempo was miles better once Henderson came on.

you ended that sentence prematurely. I'll finish it.

... once Henderson came on and Wijnaldum continued to play in the same position as before with Henderson in front of him.

Which begs the question, why did tempo improve if Wijnaldum's role didn't change?

[OkieRedman]

Because someone was now on the pitch with a decent passing range?

[Bolrick]

I am sure gini would do well against real madrid.......cos they are not gonna sit back.

But...........for next season, for teams who sit back, we need better options in midfield.

[jepovic]

He was ok? I guess he wasn't terrible, but he has zero confidence in his passing ability. He refused to pass a ball between defenders into one of the forward's feet. Our tempo was miles better once Henderson came on.

The real problem is that this comment works for almost all our midfielders. They're very similar and thrive in the same type of games. 30% Gini types in the midfield squad is ok, but not 90%

[BabuYagu]

Because someone was now on the pitch with a decent passing range?

You still aren't seeing it. Watch the game again and look and see what the difference is in terms of Gini on the ball with Trent & Milner in midfield vs second half.

I'll give you a clue - 1st half we couldn't play through midfield. We didn't have one. We had split center backs, Gini with them and 4 full backs. Asking Gini to play vertical passes through a midfield of only Chelsea shirts is tactically stupid. We lose the ball, we are overloaded in the middle. Our only option was to keep going around Chelsea, every time. Which made us very predictable and easy to control.

[Tony19:6]

utterly anonymous yet again today.

If we want to improve we have to upgrade on this bloke

[deFacto please, you bastards]

He wasn't the problem today at all.

[OOS]

He wasn't the problem today at all.

His skillset did not suit todays game at all. Against low block teams, a fit Lallana or Ox would be ahead of him.

[BabuYagu]

You still aren't seeing it. Watch the game again and look and see what the difference is in terms of Gini on the ball with Trent & Milner in midfield vs second half.

I'll give you a clue - 1st half we couldn't play through midfield. We didn't have one. We had split center backs, Gini with them and 4 full backs. Asking Gini to play vertical passes through a midfield of only Chelsea shirts is tactically stupid. We lose the ball, we are overloaded in the middle. Our only option was to keep going around Chelsea, every time. Which made us very predictable and easy to control.

Reason for timing?
On the 59th minute, Trent moved to right back when Clyne came off.
On the 74th minute, Milner moved to left back when Robertson came off.



Henderson had more touches in the center of midfield than Trent & Milner combined in just ~30 minutes on the pitch. He played the position like a central midfielder. Finally Gini had someone in front of him in midfield, so he could play the ball into midfield. Before that, he couldn't. So he didn't.

[nico 8]

So poor

Away from home I dont think he should start

utterly anonymous yet again today.

If we want to improve we have to upgrade on this bloke

His skillset did not suit todays game at all. Against low block teams, a fit Lallana or Ox would be ahead of him.

Do you actually understand the role he was playing today? A no.6 should not be taking his opponent on. Limited opportunities for a vertical pass. Lose possession in either attempt and the gates are open for a counter. We had to round and TAA and Robertson were understandably leggy in any attempt to overlap. You guys are looking for a scapegoat or you fail to understand the role of a no.6 against a low block team. Can we improve on personnel in that position - the answer would be Yes  but to lay the blame at his door where the problem was elsewhere- that is scapegoating.

[rakey_lfc]

100% - Georginio Wijnaldum (@GWijnaldum) completed 61 passes v Chelsea, the highest tally with a 100 percent accuracy in a PL game for a Liverpool player since Opta collect detailed PL data (2003/04). Reinvention.

Just took this off Twitter.

[Tony19:6]

Do you actually understand the role he was playing today? A no.6 should not be taking his opponent on. Limited opportunities for a vertical pass. Lose possession in either attempt and the gates are open for a counter. We had to round and TAA and Robertson were understandably leggy in any attempt to overlap. You guys are looking for a scapegoat or you fail to understand the role of a no.6 against a low block team. Can we improve on personnel in that position - the answer would be Yes  but to lay the blame at his door where the problem was elsewhere- that is scapegoating.

Yes I totally understand the role he was supposed to play you patriosinsing ***** - did he?

Once again he was utterly anonymous in a game we should have easily got something from _ Chelsea were utterly there for the taking.

We wasn't the only one, but I sincerely hope we upgrade on this guy come the summer.

[red vinyl]

The whole team looked spent today,as Babu and Rakey have pointed out Gini was not high on the list of non performers.

[wige]

Yes I totally understand the role he was supposed to play you patriosinsing ***** - did he?

Once again he was utterly anonymous in a game we should have easily got something from _ Chelsea were utterly there for the taking.

We wasn't the only one, but I sincerely hope we upgrade on this guy come the summer.

Utter nonsense.

A million miles from anonymous.

What was anonymous was us having a midfielder who could break through lines, and create in tight spaces. Mainly because we sold one and our other two options are injured.

[Tony19:6]

Utter nonsense.

A million miles from anonymous.

What was anonymous was us having a midfielder who could break through lines, and create in tight spaces. Mainly because we sold one and our other two options are injured.

Go on Wige what did he do ?

[BabuYagu]

Go on Wige what did he do ?

What a #6 is meant to do. Kept possession of the ball, broke up play, protected our attacks.

[wige]

Go on Nige hat did he do ?

Protected the defence, through intelligent use of the ball and his brilliant use/positioning of his body.

Competed throughout the game, pressing, harassing and forcing Chelsea players into mistakes and bad passes.

Broke forwards a fair few times in the first half, especially in the inside left Channel and was trying to work the ball into Mane, and Robertson down that side.

Passed well, and consistently, retaining possession as we built attacks and trying to bring full backs and attackers into the game when needed.

Worked his nuts off.

[Tony19:6]

What a #6 is meant to do. Kept possession of the ball, broke up play, protected our attacks.

Ok Mr Can hater I'll engage.. 

Try to actually affect the play would be a start, rather than shitting his pants every time he recieves the ball ? 

[Tony19:6]

Protected the defence, through intelligent use of the ball and his brilliant use/positioning of his body.

Competed throughout the game, pressing, harassing and forcing Chelsea players into mistakes and bad passes.

Broke forwards a fair few times in the first half, especially in the inside left Channel and was trying to work the ball into Mane, and Robertson down that side.

Passed well, and consistently, retaining possession as we built attacks and trying to bring full backs and attackers into the game when needed.

Worked his nuts off.

Ok

[wige]

Ok Mr Can hater I'll engage.. 

Try to actually affect the play would be a start, rather than shitting his pants every time he recieves the ball ? 

Again, utter nonsense. Calm, composed and retained possession with every pass he made, under, at times, severe pressure.

[Tony19:6]

Again, utter nonsense. Calm, composed and retained possession with every pass he made, under, at times, severe pressure.

So what did he do going forward?

[wige]

So what did he do going forward?

I've told you some already.

Maybe I should write it in simpler terms?

Edit, plus, as Baby and Nico have both said, and I originally gave you benefit of the doubt for, you don't appear to grasp the role he was playing, and are actually blaming him for  not being Lallana/Ox/Keita/Coutinho