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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5320 on: May 19, 2019, 06:29:17 PM »
He's played a huge part in them winning 2 European Cups and he's treated like a part-time player. I'd be pissed too.

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« Reply #5321 on: May 19, 2019, 06:34:35 PM »
Unbelievable how they are treating bale. I’d have him here in a heartbeat (whether or not he is a klopp player and wages etc is another thing).

Astonishing how they are treating him. Zidane is a ball bag.

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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5322 on: May 19, 2019, 06:39:12 PM »
Unbelievable how they are treating bale. I’d have him here in a heartbeat (whether or not he is a klopp player and wages etc is another thing).

Astonishing how they are treating him. Zidane is a ball bag.

I wouldn't, injured too much for starters.

But I like him too, probably cos I'm Welsh  ;D  And he's always given his all to Wales and carried that team on his shoulders at times, he's like the anti-Giggs when it comes to the Welsh national team. So he gets my respect for that.

And yeah Zidane does come across as a right dick. He is perfectly suited to Real Madrid.
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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5323 on: May 19, 2019, 09:03:21 PM »
Zidane is a shithouse.

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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5324 on: May 19, 2019, 09:17:00 PM »
Bale will go to United.
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« Reply #5325 on: May 19, 2019, 09:22:44 PM »
Bale will go to United.
He's completely not what they need, massive wages/injury prone, sounds perfect for them!

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« Reply #5326 on: May 19, 2019, 09:31:09 PM »
Bale getting the treatment he's having doesn't have that much to do with Zidane: the frenchman is only pulling off what the crowd of Real Madrid want. They all want him out, and have, rightly or wrongly, blamed him for promising so much through many years (as potential Cristiano replacement) actually being quite good a times this season but ultimately falling way short.

Spanish fans get upset by many things you'd think are irrelevant in the PL: they demand players being very committed, almost to the point of it being a facade or plain show, in that players have to have sad worried faces on the bench at all times if their team is losing, have to celebrate everything that goes their way (also when on the bench), etc.

Bale has been injured, has blown hot an cold (in the specific context of not measuring against Cristiano, again due to maybe unfair expextations)... yet the killer thing has been that Spanish media and fans have fixated on him going home from the stadium before the final whistle (ergo, not showing "commitment"), him barely speaking a sentence of Spanish (also, apparently, proof of his lack of "commitment"), etc etc.

It has a lot to do with cultural issues: Agüero and Silva probably speak as much English as Bale can Spanish, but that is practically a non-issue on the UK as long as you do well on the pitch. The sideshow of showing all that spiel of commitment is demanded here mainly on the pitch, by running, getting stuck in or whatever.

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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5327 on: May 19, 2019, 09:52:44 PM »
Zidane to Ed Woodward.


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« Reply #5328 on: May 20, 2019, 09:42:22 AM »
I think Bale definitely did not say that (staying to play golf) and there appear to be doubts over Zidane made the comments about the substitutes too.

However, he does appear to be on his way out. Would they consider loaning him out or would they want to recoup cash for him? I can only see Man United spending the £50m+ it would cost to get him. Maybe Chelsea if they didn't have the ban?

Can Chelsea do any swap deals? I guess not... and those things rarely happen anyway, for how often swap deals are touted.

It would be interesting to see what he could do in the PL now - he is obviously a brilliant footballer but he is at the stage where his body is starting to let him down. Coming back to such an intense League would be interesting.

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« Reply #5329 on: May 20, 2019, 09:50:27 AM »
Given Bales injury history any club would be mad to spend money on him, or give him a long contract. Surely even United aren't dumb enough after the Sanchez fiasco. Real seem desperste to get rid as well, clubs should be forcing them to loan him out.

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« Reply #5330 on: May 20, 2019, 12:39:48 PM »
I think Bale definitely did not say that (staying to play golf) and there appear to be doubts over Zidane made the comments about the substitutes too.

However, he does appear to be on his way out. Would they consider loaning him out or would they want to recoup cash for him? I can only see Man United spending the £50m+ it would cost to get him. Maybe Chelsea if they didn't have the ban?

Can Chelsea do any swap deals? I guess not... and those things rarely happen anyway, for how often swap deals are touted.

It would be interesting to see what he could do in the PL now - he is obviously a brilliant footballer but he is at the stage where his body is starting to let him down. Coming back to such an intense League would be interesting.

You have to think there arent many options out there. As much as people think going to Man Utd is a possibility, I really can't see it happening now. Maybe if Neymar goes the other way to Madrid, he'd go to PSG? I really can't see what other rich club would stump up the cash.  And I'm not sure PSG would be interested either. Doubt Bayern would do it either, they have been making a concerted effort to get younger the last 2 seasons windows.
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« Reply #5331 on: May 20, 2019, 12:47:42 PM »
You have to think there arent many options out there. As much as people think going to Man Utd is a possibility, I really can't see it happening now. Maybe if Neymar goes the other way to Madrid, he'd go to PSG? I really can't see what other rich club would stump up the cash.  And I'm not sure PSG would be interested either. Doubt Bayern would do it either, they have been making a concerted effort to get younger the last 2 seasons windows.

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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5332 on: May 20, 2019, 12:54:06 PM »
Bale's a great player but I wouldn't exactly be quaking in my boots if one of our rivals brought him in, with a massive transfer fee and wages for someone turning 30 soon. It seems like something United would do off the back of shirt sales alone. You'll have blues soon saying 'we might as well try our luck with him'  ;D

Wasn't surprised to see him not get a send off yesterday, there's little time in sentiment for a club like Madrid. Truth be told the club and their fans will probably be underwhelmed with 100 goals in 6 years, even if he's not a proper striker. Only 150 odd league games in that time and one title, but to so publicly hate on a man who basically delivered them a European cup last year, and played his part in the 2014 final, is a bit of a joke. It makes me hope that if Liverpool ever get back to a level of success that we were used to in the 70s and 80s, we don't become complete c*nts in the process.
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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5333 on: May 20, 2019, 04:43:04 PM »
You have to think there arent many options out there. As much as people think going to Man Utd is a possibility, I really can't see it happening now. Maybe if Neymar goes the other way to Madrid, he'd go to PSG? I really can't see what other rich club would stump up the cash.  And I'm not sure PSG would be interested either. Doubt Bayern would do it either, they have been making a concerted effort to get younger the last 2 seasons windows.

I think in a window where potentially Griezmann / Coutinho or Dembele / possibly Sane / Hazard / Brandt are up for grabs, it's hard to see where he goes permanently. Even someone like Pogba leaving could make it more difficult for him.

If Chelsea lose Hazard and have their ban lifted, then someone like Coutinho or Dembele would be perfect there. Brandt/Sane seem like the type of signings Bayern need, to replace Robben and/or Ribery and Griezmann to Barcelona looks nailed on. Pogba potentially back to Juventus looks like it could close the door for Bale going there - and you could argue someone like Coutinho would be a better choice for them.

Maybe PSG. Or if United could get him on loan then it could be an option. I think United are a bit more wise now, given the burns they have faced - OGS seems like he has identified their points of weakness and the type of players they don't need to be signing. It's whether or not he has a say in that. As you could imagine him appealing to Woodward and co.
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« Reply #5334 on: May 20, 2019, 04:45:31 PM »
Bale is a Sanchez purchase. Not sure anyone apart from Utd can afford his wages. Hopefully Ole sees him as part of his new British spine  ;D

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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5335 on: May 21, 2019, 08:08:20 AM »
Hope Bale goes to Man Utd for £200m and then immediately gets injured and is ruled out for the season.

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« Reply #5336 on: May 21, 2019, 10:35:25 AM »
I know it's low hanging fruit to mention wages of players as obscene, but 600k in Euros per week?. Properly part of a small pool, but unlikely to go anywhere for less than £200k, so that leaves 2 northwest clubs and PSG, doesn't it?.
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« Reply #5337 on: May 21, 2019, 11:03:14 AM »
He’s been treated like garbage the whole time he’s been at Madrid. I’m sure living in the sun in Madrid softens the blow combines with the wage but it must suck a little bit.

honestly no idea where he goes from here. Madrid are a shithouse of a club so I wouldn’t mind if he just sat out the rest of his contract and couldn’t blame him either

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« Reply #5338 on: May 21, 2019, 11:04:41 AM »
Being injured almost constantly does tend to erode support and sympathy, even though it's seldom ever a player's fault.

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« Reply #5339 on: May 21, 2019, 11:09:02 AM »
Amazing how badly Bale's treated, he's won them 2 CL on his own with his winning goals.

Also that winner in his 1st season against Barcelona in the Spanish cup final.

I remember how badly the treatment Modric got his first season there.

I don't understand the clamour playing for those 2 teams in Spain, they have the most moronic fickle spoilt glory hunting fans on the planet with a horrible press.

Such a unexciting league as well, playing aginst 16 utter average to shit teams you don't even have to get out of 2nd gear to beat and all you have to look forward to in the league is the El Clasico and city derby matches.

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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5340 on: May 21, 2019, 03:19:40 PM »
Amazing how badly Bale's treated, he's won them 2 CL on his own with his winning goals.

Also that winner in his 1st season against Barcelona in the Spanish cup final.

I remember how badly the treatment Modric got his first season there.

I don't understand the clamour playing for those 2 teams in Spain, they have the most moronic fickle spoilt glory hunting fans on the planet with a horrible press.

Such a unexciting league as well, playing aginst 16 utter average to shit teams you don't even have to get out of 2nd gear to beat and all you have to look forward to in the league is the El Clasico and city derby matches.

I agree wholeheartedly about Barca and Madrid, but think its a bit harsh on the rest of the league. Look at Valencia this season, great story, looking like relegation candidates at Christmas. Or Getafe nearly making Europe. Sevilla always worth a watch. Aspas single-handedly keeping Celta Vigo up. Atletico always up for a ruck, even if they're boring as shit to watch. You could say the same about us and City laying waste to the PL this season to be honest.
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« Reply #5341 on: May 21, 2019, 03:26:06 PM »
I agree wholeheartedly about Barca and Madrid, but think its a bit harsh on the rest of the league. Look at Valencia this season, great story, looking like relegation candidates at Christmas. Or Getafe nearly making Europe. Sevilla always worth a watch. Aspas single-handedly keeping Celta Vigo up. Atletico always up for a ruck, even if they're boring as shit to watch. You could say the same about us and City laying waste to the PL this season to be honest.

Exactly. For some reason, there is a school of thought that the only thing that defines a league, is the title race, so if there isn't one (as was the case for 3 of the 'big' 5 leagues this season), it means it's shit.  There are so many other elements to a league season that means it can be hugely enjoyable regardless. Be it battles for Europe, relegation battles, derbies and rivalries, watching other not so big teams who actually try and play good football etc. After all, most fans don't support a team likely to be challenging or expected to win the league. 
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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5342 on: May 25, 2019, 07:34:30 PM »
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The Copa Del Rey Final - Saturday 25th May, with an 8pm kick off (UK time)


Barcelona vs Valencia - at Seville's Benito Villamarín stadium : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%9319_Copa_del_Rey


Barcelona XI: Cillessen; Semedo, Pique, Lenglet, Alba; Busquets, Rakitic, Arthur; Sergi Roberto, Messi, Coutinho.
Subs: Iñaki Peña, Umtiti, Vermaelen, Aleñá, Vidal, Carles Pérez, Malcom.

Valencia XI: Jaume, Wass, Garay, Paulista, Gaya, Soler, Parejo, Coquelin, Guedes, Rodrigo, Gameiro.
Subs: Diakhaby, Kondogbia, Latorre, Mina, Neto, Piccini, Torres.


The match is NOT live on UK TV.

TV stations around the world showing the game live (+ great for IPTV etc) - https://www.livesoccertv.com/match/3255830/barcelona-vs-valencia

Streams:-

https://footybite.com/football/fc-barcelona-vs-valencia-live-stream
https://www.reddit.com/r/redditsoccercity/comments/bswsfw/1900_gmt_barcelona_vs_valencia/
https://soccerstreams.net/event/valencia-barcelona-live-stream/107563
https://stream-hd.live/stream/344922/barcelona-vs-valencia
https://streamwoop.net/event/19580/Barcelona-vs-Valencia
https://www.usagoals.net/football.html
https://www.vipboxtv.se/football-stream
http://www.ibrodtv.net/ibrodtv6.html
https://www.hulkstream.com/live/soccer/spain-copa-del-rey-final
http://soccerlegacy.net/la-liga-live-stream
https://www.ronaldo7.net/video/barcelona-live/barcelona-live-streaming.html
https://www.livefootballol.me/streaming/spanish-copa-del-rey/25-05-2019-barcelona-valencia.html
https://acelisting.in
https://livesport.ws/81507-barcelona-valencia.html
https://www.pimpletv.ru/broadcast/football/16318-barcelona-valencia


Highlights - https://www.reddit.com/r/footballhighlights/comments/bsy1n3/barcelona_vs_valencia_copa_del_rey_25may2019/
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« Reply #5343 on: May 25, 2019, 08:26:44 PM »

1-0 to Valencia, Gameiro the scorer on 21 mins - https://streamja.com/J95Z & https://streamable.com/yrif0 & https://streamable.com/a1q7b

2-0 to Valencia, Rodrigo the scorer on 33 mins - https://streamja.com/p5vR & https://streamable.com/bhsl2 & https://streamable.com/b055t

^ a lovely move from the edge of their own 18 yard box...
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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5344 on: May 25, 2019, 08:36:20 PM »
We've completely ruined Barca  ;D

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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5345 on: May 25, 2019, 08:37:20 PM »
Valencia battering barca here 2-0

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« Reply #5346 on: May 25, 2019, 08:38:16 PM »
Horrible from Barca this

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« Reply #5347 on: May 25, 2019, 08:40:43 PM »
Who'd they go for if valverde goes? Make a serious push for pochettino?

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« Reply #5348 on: May 25, 2019, 08:42:02 PM »
Who'd they go for if valverde goes? Make a serious push for pochettino?

He’s gone

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« Reply #5349 on: May 25, 2019, 08:46:15 PM »
We broke Barca.
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« Reply #5350 on: May 25, 2019, 08:48:32 PM »
Who'd they go for if valverde goes? Make a serious push for pochettino?
There's no one available who's high profile enough for their spoilt brat fans and who plays a sort of football they'd be happy with. Hopefully they can convince Guardiola to go back.  ;D But not likely. The Ajax manager would be an interesting choice.

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« Reply #5351 on: May 25, 2019, 08:49:19 PM »
He’s gone

Poch said he wouldn’t cod of his espanyol links
Really? Thought he'd onky signed a new contract a few weeks ago.

Think it's easy for pochettino to say that when they likely haven't approached him in the past.

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« Reply #5352 on: May 25, 2019, 08:51:45 PM »
Has anybody had any luck with the streams? All the links seem to send me on a wild goose chase of pop-ups and nonsense!

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« Reply #5353 on: May 25, 2019, 08:53:41 PM »
Has anybody had any luck with the streams? All the links seem to send me on a wild goose chase of pop-ups and nonsense!
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« Reply #5354 on: May 25, 2019, 08:54:24 PM »

^ all seem to be working fine for me mate, though try this...

http://ripple.is/football/10867-barcelona-vs-valencia
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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5355 on: May 25, 2019, 09:04:39 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSbxBp-IpHw


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edit: Arse... not showing game just their reactions...
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« Reply #5356 on: May 25, 2019, 09:05:24 PM »
Thanks you two. They both work well.

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« Reply #5357 on: May 25, 2019, 09:09:19 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSbxBp-IpHw


Spanish. Room full of men arguing and waving hands everywhere during ht...



edit: Arse... not showing game just their reactions...

worth having this on mute in another window...

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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5358 on: May 25, 2019, 09:12:23 PM »
Really? Thought he'd onky signed a new contract a few weeks ago.


Valverde?

My god he’s gone. Whatever he’s signed

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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5359 on: May 25, 2019, 09:15:04 PM »
worth having this on mute in another window...

Just had a look at this and it's mad!