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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5400 on: June 4, 2019, 11:44:52 AM »
Lopetegui new Sevilla manager

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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5401 on: June 4, 2019, 11:51:09 AM »
Lopetegui new Sevilla manager

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What a cock-up that episode before the World Cup was,from all involved parties.

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« Reply #5402 on: June 4, 2019, 11:52:12 AM »
What a cock-up that episode before the World Cup was,from all involved parties.

Yep. All sides lost out there

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« Reply #5403 on: June 4, 2019, 01:49:34 PM »
Luka Jovic confirmed to Real Madrid for €60 million. They needed to get younger up front, and they needed goals. This should work out to be a great deal for them.
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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5404 on: June 4, 2019, 04:46:03 PM »
Watch Benzema starting most matches and Jovic being loaned out to Sevilla or Betis following year.

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« Reply #5405 on: June 4, 2019, 06:16:23 PM »
'El Mundo: Recordings prove match-fixing took place during Real Valladolid vs Valencia':-

https://www.marca.com/en/football/spanish-football/2019/06/04/5cf591f7ca4741b9348b4612.html


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'Spanish newspaper El Mundo have exclusively published these recordings that were intercepted by police."Seven players were bribed, no more," Aranda told a person on the phone."Bet 10,000 euros and you will win 20,000 euros," Aranda said in the same conversation.'


(the victory saw Valencia finish 4th place - in a Champions League spot, just ahead of Getafe)
Big story this.  What do they do now?

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« Reply #5406 on: June 4, 2019, 06:29:27 PM »
Luka Jovic confirmed to Real Madrid for €60 million. They needed to get younger up front, and they needed goals. This should work out to be a great deal for them.

Unproven at the highest level and still to show he can keep those numbers up. Lets see how it works out.

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« Reply #5407 on: June 4, 2019, 06:59:11 PM »
Big story this.  What do they do now?
Valencia is in big trouble as it seems 3 of 4 matches under investigation are Valencia's. If they find clear wrongdoing, i wonder if they will relegate them or deduct points only.

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« Reply #5408 on: June 4, 2019, 07:30:02 PM »
a nicer story from Spanish football, is that Santi Cazorla has been recalled into the Spanish squad.
What an incredible story it's been for him these past couple years. A fear he may lose his leg, to be told to be happy just to be able to walk around a garden. To playing in 46 games this season for Villarreal, and now back in the Spanish squad.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jun/04/santi-cazorla-spain-recall-european-championship-qualifiers
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« Reply #5409 on: June 4, 2019, 08:27:25 PM »
Valencia is in big trouble as it seems 3 of 4 matches under investigation are Valencia's. If they find clear wrongdoing, i wonder if they will relegate them or deduct points only.
Fucking hell, what are they going to say when they start looking at matches that Nev was in charge of?!!
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« Reply #5410 on: June 4, 2019, 08:37:25 PM »
Valencia is in big trouble as it seems 3 of 4 matches under investigation are Valencia's. If they find clear wrongdoing, i wonder if they will relegate them or deduct points only.

If proven, the Spanish FA would have no choice but to demote Valencia, how many divisions i don't know, then that affects the league, everyone else below Valencia up moves one place, Getafe will take Valencia's place Champions League, Espanyol will be in the Europa, Girona who finished 3rd bottom & relegated should be in La Liga next season.

Also how fat evidence goes, Valencia could be stripped of the Copa Del Rey title as well.

Other teams if proven involved could well be demoted as well.
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« Reply #5411 on: June 4, 2019, 08:46:37 PM »
That’s the sort of thing clubs used to get wound up for, though I guess Serie A over the years has drawn that sort of sting from it.

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« Reply #5412 on: June 6, 2019, 02:46:10 AM »
If proven, the Spanish FA would have no choice but to demote Valencia, how many divisions i don't know, then that affects the league, everyone else below Valencia up moves one place, Getafe will take Valencia's place Champions League, Espanyol will be in the Europa, Girona who finished 3rd bottom & relegated should be in La Liga next season.

Other teams if proven involved could well be demoted as well.

Yep, if Valencia are involved. However based on what Sid Lowe has said Valencia is not believed to be involved. Valladolid will get hammered most likely

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There is no suggestion that Valencia were involved in the conspiracy in any way or were aware of it.

Prosecutors believe that this was driven by gambling, not the interests of the clubs. The initial investigation began when the league alerted to suspicious betting patterns at the end of last season in the second division; now the investigation has expanded to include this highly significant first‑division match.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jun/04/valladolid-valencia-football-match-fixing-allegations-el-mundo
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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5413 on: June 6, 2019, 08:40:33 AM »
Valencia is in big trouble as it seems 3 of 4 matches under investigation are Valencia's. If they find clear wrongdoing, i wonder if they will relegate them or deduct points only.
Worse still, they might force them to reappoint Gary Neville.
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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5414 on: June 7, 2019, 11:04:08 PM »
Luka Jovic confirmed to Real Madrid for €60 million. They needed to get younger up front, and they needed goals. This should work out to be a great deal for them.
These arrogant swine are spending money like crazy.

Jovic, Mendy, Hazard, Militao, plus Rodrygo is coming over.  Way over 200k & it's just the first week of June. Hopefully they end up in our CL group and we light them up. :champ

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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5415 on: June 7, 2019, 11:10:08 PM »
These arrogant swine are spending money like crazy.

Jovic, Mendy, Hazard, Militao, plus Rodrygo is coming over.  Way over 200k & it's just the first week of June. Hopefully they end up in our CL group and we light them up. :champ


To be fair, they've probably spent more so far than they have in the past 2-3 seasons combined

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« Reply #5416 on: June 7, 2019, 11:13:03 PM »
Madrid haven't really spent in 3 summers now, got 100m for Ronaldo while moving his salary off the books (1st or 2nd highest salary in the sport) and are neck and neck for richest team in the world.  They could probably spent €400m and be fine.  They're still going to add one of Pogba/Eriksen while trying to move Isco, Bale, James and some others. 

And even with all that, yeah they're going to be a really funky team that probably won't win La Liga and we would stomp.  Signing Hazard now and at that price, re-signing Kroos, keeping Ramos.  It's weird.

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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5417 on: June 13, 2019, 03:52:35 AM »
Well they've done 300m so far
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« Reply #5418 on: June 13, 2019, 05:54:32 AM »
And they're just looking to sign one more player between Pogba and Eriksen.  Assuming it's Eriksen as they won't agree to Pogba's ridiculous demands nor will Ed want to sell his golden boy then €400m is probably going to be a bit short actually.

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« Reply #5419 on: June 13, 2019, 06:43:40 AM »
They have spent a lot but its not quite a set of galactico’s, is it?

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« Reply #5420 on: June 13, 2019, 08:15:32 AM »

Spanish football league fined for turning fans' phones into pub spies

Madrid: Spain's football league has been fined €250,000 ($400,000) for secretly using fans' mobile phones as spying tools to crack down on bars screening matches via pirated television signals.

Using an app installed on the users' phones, La Liga remotely turned on the microphone function of the phones to listen for the sound of a broadcast match.

The geolocation function was then able to establish the whereabouts of the person watching a game to check if they were in an establishment with a paid subscription to an official La Liga package, or if it was an illicit signal.

Spain's data protection agency issued the fine after finding that up to 50,000 La Liga users' phones had been used for the purpose.

The agency ruled that La Liga had committed a "very serious data protection infringement" by failing to inform users that their apps could activate the microphone.

If the scheme to crack down on venues screening games had been carried out legally, La Liga would have needed to tell users every time their microphones were switched on, which would have meant an in-app notification being sent to people once every minute while they watched the match.

The in-app spying function appeared to have paid dividends for La Liga, as it was able to file 600 criminal cases against Spanish bars and restaurants.

La Liga has said it loses €400 million a year in television royalties, and that half of Spain's 120,000 establishments showing La Liga do not buy the hospitality package.

La Liga calculates that, of these 60,000 bars and restaurants, two-thirds use a pirate signal while the remainder simply use the signal from a domestic television package, which costs a fraction of the price.

According to a La Liga investigation last year, it is common for several bars in a neighbourhood to share a signal from a single pirate decoder.

In an official reaction to the ruling on Tuesday, La Liga said it would challenge the decision through the courts.

La Liga said that more than 4 million users of its app in Spain "express proactively and twice over" their consent for the use of their mobiles for the detection of fraudulent behaviour from unauthorised establishments.

But in a decision that calls into question the way users of digital services give permission for the use of personal data, the Spanish data protection agency AEPD took issue with the app's one-off system of consent, suggesting instead that La Liga should have warned users each time it activated the espionage function.

La Liga had attempted to quash privacy complaints, saying the technology was "designed to exclusively generate a fingerprint of sound that contained just 0.75 per cent of the information gathered, making it technically impossible to interpret voices or human conversations".

La Liga said it was not spying on users, arguing that the listening technology consisted of an algorithm similar to the music-detecting app Shazam, which identifies popular songs.

La Liga's app breaks ambient sounds into a binary code that automatically compares the sound of the broadcast, with no data being recorded or stored.

"We could not record conversations even if we wanted or if a judge ordered us to, not even if they were related with the piracy that we are trying to pursue," an IT specialist from La Liga said.

La Liga said it would discontinue using the technology from the end of the month, although it said this was merely the end of a contract with the supplier, and not due to AEPD's decision.

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https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/spanish-football-league-fined-for-turning-fans-phones-into-pub-spies-20190613-p51xgc.html
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Re: Spanish Football 2018/2019
« Reply #5421 on: June 13, 2019, 01:43:35 PM »
Times are saying Madrid are (unsurprisingly) struggling to shift Bale and his reportedly more than £600k a week (!!) contract. They'll probably try to loan him even though he has no intention of leaving. Also apparently he often plays 18 holes of golf after training.

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« Reply #5422 on: June 13, 2019, 02:22:01 PM »
I love how they’re so pissed of at him playing golf after hours.

I find it hilarious.
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« Reply #5423 on: June 13, 2019, 02:31:26 PM »
I love how they’re so pissed of at him playing golf after hours.

I find it hilarious.

I doubt any of his injuries since he joined have been caused by playing golf, but you can understand them being shall we say 'apprehensive' about it considering he's made of papier mache.

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« Reply #5424 on: June 13, 2019, 02:51:47 PM »
I doubt any of his injuries since he joined have been caused by playing golf, but you can understand them being shall we say 'apprehensive' about it considering he's made of papier mache.

They can kick rocks, he helped them win 2 European Cups. Ungrateful fcks

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« Reply #5425 on: June 13, 2019, 02:56:17 PM »
The whole Bale situation is bizarre, I dont think i've ever seen a player so desperate NOT to leave a club

Having a manager say even if he had 4 subs he wouldnt have used you tells you all you need to know, I can understand wanting to prove people wrong and that kind of thing but its not like he's been there one season and has a point to prove

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« Reply #5426 on: June 13, 2019, 03:44:27 PM »
The whole Bale situation is bizarre, I dont think i've ever seen a player so desperate NOT to leave a club

Having a manager say even if he had 4 subs he wouldnt have used you tells you all you need to know, I can understand wanting to prove people wrong and that kind of thing but its not like he's been there one season and has a point to prove

Problem is, where can he go? He's not going to give up this contract easily. And about the only teams who could afford him may either not want him (like PSG or City), or aren't in the CL and he may not fancy it (like Man Utd).

I honestly don't know where the guy will end up, there doesnt seem a whole lot of options out there considering the length of his contract.
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« Reply #5427 on: June 13, 2019, 05:17:11 PM »
De Ligt's a merc for potentially taking €400k/week but Bale is being mistreated by an ungrateful club and fan base and shouldn't have to give up his €600k/week?  Yeah.....

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« Reply #5428 on: June 13, 2019, 05:23:02 PM »
I doubt any of his injuries since he joined have been caused by playing golf, but you can understand them being shall we say 'apprehensive' about it considering he's made of papier mache.

Think it's more a case of the amount of time he spends golfing could be used towards language lessons or interacting with teammates. Courtois said earlier this year Bale's nicknames are the golfer and the alien, which speak volumes

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« Reply #5429 on: June 13, 2019, 08:14:17 PM »
:lmao

During Hazards unveiling, Real fans chanted ‘we want MBappe’

Know how to make him feel wanted eh?
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« Reply #5430 on: June 13, 2019, 08:36:47 PM »
:lmao

During Hazards unveiling, Real fans chanted ‘we want MBappe’

Know how to make him feel wanted eh?

To be fair, I've also shouted that.

Although I was at a Hanson concert at the time.
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« Reply #5431 on: June 13, 2019, 08:41:09 PM »
:lmao

During Hazards unveiling, Real fans chanted ‘we want MBappe’

Know how to make him feel wanted eh?

horrible fan base.  Spoilt, entitled brats.
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« Reply #5432 on: June 13, 2019, 10:04:34 PM »
:lmao

During Hazards unveiling, Real fans chanted ‘we want MBappe’

Know how to make him feel wanted eh?
I’m surprised they even looked up from their phones

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« Reply #5433 on: June 13, 2019, 10:25:13 PM »
horrible fan base.  Spoilt, entitled brats.

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« Reply #5434 on: June 13, 2019, 10:33:01 PM »
The whole Bale situation is bizarre, I dont think i've ever seen a player so desperate NOT to leave a club

Having a manager say even if he had 4 subs he wouldnt have used you tells you all you need to know, I can understand wanting to prove people wrong and that kind of thing but its not like he's been there one season and has a point to prove

He’s potentially ruined the rest of his footballing career by digging in his heels (studs) and refusing to leave all because of the money (yes, that’s the reason) not because he wants to honour his contract!!

Bale is an idiot, he should know when he’s not wanted. Even united have turned away

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« Reply #5435 on: June 13, 2019, 10:38:36 PM »
He’s potentially ruined the rest of his footballing career by digging in his heels (studs) and refusing to leave all because of the money (yes, that’s the reason) not because he wants to honour his contract!!

Bale is an idiot, he should know when he’s not wanted. Even united have turned away
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« Reply #5436 on: June 13, 2019, 10:44:28 PM »
He’s potentially ruined the rest of his footballing career by digging in his heels (studs) and refusing to leave all because of the money (yes, that’s the reason) not because he wants to honour his contract!!

Bale is an idiot, he should know when he’s not wanted. Even united have turned away

How is it Bale's fault that Madrid gave him a ridiculous contract?  Madrid can easily move him to another team while paying his contract.  The issue is they don't want to do that, they want the player to lose money in order for him to leave.  There is no other walk of life where that is actually Ok.  The people that spout off about how if you have £50m then what's £100m don't use Amazon, Google or Facebook right?  Everything at Sports Direct isn't free?  You now have to pay for BBC as a senior citizen?  Get to fuck man.

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« Reply #5437 on: June 13, 2019, 10:48:48 PM »
I guess the mistake is, he dug his heels in and then refused to let go! I don't follow all the ins and outs of what is going on at Madrid, but I know that Zidane has no interest in him, so did he Bale decide to stay as is his right, when Zidane left thinking his problems there where over? 

So now, much to his dismay I guess, Zidane came back, and now he's in a situation where he knows he won't be part of the plans there, but he's a few more injuries down the line, and his options are limited.

What can they do now? It's hard to see them finding a buyer. So they have to find a loan for him? And stump up a large portion of his wages? Or just pay him to play golf for the next two years.

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« Reply #5438 on: June 14, 2019, 03:21:27 AM »
To be fair, I've also shouted that.

Although I was at a Hanson concert at the time.

Wanted to sign Didi also, huh?
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« Reply #5439 on: June 19, 2019, 03:38:53 PM »
Luis Enrique has resigned from the national team due to personal reasons. Rumour is that his daughter is ill with a rare disease