Topic: *****The LFC Prediction League: Season 16*****

[ollyfrom.tv]

West Brom v Liverpool

Mignolet

Clyne
Matip
Lovren
Milner

Can
Winjaldum
Lucas

Coutinho
Origi
Firmino

3-1 Liverpool

1st Goal - Firmino

DP - 8

[RJH]

Vs. West Brom

Mignolet

Clyne
Lovren
Matip
Milner

Lucas
Can
Wijnaldum

Firmino
Coutinho
Origi

FG: 2-1 to Liverpool
FS: Coutinho
DP: 8

[Trendisnotdestiny]

West Brom

Migs

Klavan
Matip
Lovren

Clyne
Can
Wjinaldum
Milner

Coutinho
Firmino
Origi

Final Score 2-2
FG: Milner
DP:10

[Yorkshire-Red]

West Brom

Mignolet
Matip Lovren Klavan
Clyne Can Wijnaldum Milner
Firmino Origi Coutinho

Score: 1-2 to us
Scorer: Firmino
DP: 8

[Kopite1971]

Mignolet
Clyne Matip Lovren Milner
Can Lucas Wijnaldum
Coutinho Origi Firmino

FS: 2-0 LFC
FG: Firmino
DP: 6

[OLDIE]

W B A

Mignolet

Matip Lovren Klavan

Clyne Can Wijnaldum Milner

Firmino  Coutinho

Origi

Score: 2-1 Liverpool
Scorer: Origi
DP: 10

[redforlife]

Vs West Brom

Mignolet
Clyne
Lovren
Matip
Klavan
Milner
Can
Wijnaldum
Coutinho
Firmino
Origi

First Goal Firmino
Final Score 1-1
DP 8

[rushyman]

West Brom

Migs

Klavan
Matip
Lovren
Clyne

Can
Wjinaldum
Milner

Coutinho
Firmino
Origi

Final Score 2-2
First Goal: Coutinho
DP:10

[joezydudek]

West Brom

Migs

Klavan
Matip
Lovren
Clyne

Can
Wjinaldum
Milner

Coutinho
Firmino
Origi

Final Score 1-1
First Goal: Origi
DP:10

[JSteve]

West Brom

Mignolet
Matip Lovren Klavan
Clyne Can Wijnaldum Milner
Firmino Origi Coutinho

FS: 1-2 LFC Win
FGS: Coutinho
DP: 8

[Carrard]

West Brom

Mignolet

Clyne
Matip
Lovren
Klavan
Milner

Can
Wijnaldum


Coutinho
Origi
Firmino

1-1
Origi
DP: 8

[carraggeriise]

West Brom

Migs

Klavan
Matip
Lovren
Clyne

Can
Wjinaldum
Milner

Coutinho
Firmino
Origi

FS: 2-1 Liverpool
FG: Firmino
DP: 8

[Barneylfc∗]

Mignolet
Clyne Matip Lovren Milner
Can Lucas Wijnaldum
Coutinho Origi Firmino

FS: 2-1 LFC
FG: Firmino
DP: 6

[MelwoodBoy]

WBA

Mignolet

Klavan
Matip
Lovren
Clyne

Can
Wjinaldum
Milner

Coutinho
Firmino
Origi

FS: 2-3
FG: McLean
DP:10

[Barneylfc∗]

Out of time that is Mel

[Barneylfc∗]

I get the feeling Buck Pete thinks Moreno is a hero, and Kopite1971 thinks he's a fucking gobshite 

[BoRed]

We have a new Premier League leader yet again, but it looks like the third relegation spot will be settled by I am new's disappearance. MelwoodBoy needs to be careful, another two missed entries will mean automatic relegation, regardless of league position.

Official attendance: 25669 (https://www.premierleague.com/match/14369)

25669 / 6 = 4278 remainder 1

remainder + 1 = 2, so we use Round 2 (Round 16 before renumbering) of the fixtures at http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=322322.msg14717166#msg14717166

Premier League scores:

BoRed v Kopite1971 16-27
I am new v Ndeyanka 0-29
JSteve v Barneylfc 18-27
Mivi v tylerjnorton 29-28
ollyfrom.tv v MelwoodBoy 29-0
redforlife v joezydudek 26-13
redman1974 v EstonianRed 28-18
rushyman v KeegansPerm 13-16
Ycuzz v RJH 19-19
Yorkshire-Red v Buck Pete 28-26

Standings (gf, ga, gd, pts, name (missed entries)):

541   453   +088   57   redforlife
563   490   +073   56   Kopite1971
540   478   +062   55   joezydudek
567   540   +027   55   Buck Pete
530   541   -011   55   Barneylfc
547   486   +061   54   Ndeyanka (1)
561   521   +040   54   RJH
456   504   -048   54   Yorkshire-Red (4)
560   507   +053   53   BoRed
561   515   +046   52   redman1974
520   513   +007   49   KeegansPerm
517   538   -021   46   JSteve
402   470   -068   45   MelwoodBoy (8 )
495   494   +001   44   rushyman (3)
516   525   -009   44   tylerjnorton
526   520   +006   41   Ycuzz
491   521   -030   40   Mivi (2)
442   559   -117   34   I am new (7)
486   516   -030   26   ollyfrom.tv (1)
456   586   -130   25   EstonianRed (2)

The fixture list has now been updated and the remaining rounds renumbered: http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=322322.msg14717166#msg14717166

[Barneylfc∗]

Only 5 points separating the top 10. Mental

[BoRed]

Only 5 points separating the top 10. Mental

Never had a season like it. I guess whoever wants to win it shouldn't be top going into the final round.

[Kopite1971]

I get the feeling Buck Pete thinks Moreno is a hero, and Kopite1971 thinks he's a fucking gobshite 

LMAO Well I'd rather he'd played a good pass to Sturridge or run it all the way in rather than what he did. Cost a difference of 15 points I think on the main league, though no difference on the premier league, rather than just the single point I gained on Buck Pete...

[tylerjnorton]

Oh come on Mivi!

[tylerjnorton]

Palace

Mignolet

Milner
Lucas
Lovren
Clyne

Can
Wjinaldum
Lallana

Coutinho
Firmino
Origi

FS: 3-1 LFC
FG: Firmino
DP:8

[BoRed]

LMAO Well I'd rather he'd played a good pass to Sturridge or run it all the way in rather than what he did.

To be fair to him, Sturridge was offside. Still should have scored, though.

[Barneylfc∗]

Oh come on Mivi!

You should blame Moreno too 

[Barneylfc∗]

Vs West Brom (A)

Mignolet
Clyne
Matip
Lovren
Milner
Lucas
Can
Wijnaldum
Coutinho
Origi
Firmino

First Goal - Firmino
Final Score - West Brom 0 - 1 Liverpool (Firmino)
DP - 8 (Evans, Brunt, Robson-Kanu; Lucas)


Next game - Crystal Palace (H), League, Sunday 23rd April 16:30

[Barneylfc∗]

LEAGUE TABLE after West Brom

Only a 1 point gap at the top of the league but it could have been very different had Moreno been able to slot the ball into an empty net from 30 yards or passed it to someone that knows how to shoot. Buck Pete had 1-0, Kopite1971 had 2-0, so instead of holding a 1 point lead, Buck Pete could've been 13 points behind. Small margins. With the top 3 players scoring 26, 27, and 28, it looks to have cut a few people out of the running for the title with only 5 games left.


01   26   705   Buck Pete
02   27   704   Kopite1971
03   28   696   redman1974
04   19   696   RJH
05   25   685   blueforlife
06   27   682   Barneylfc
07   18   673   Jsteve
08   29   672   Ndeyanka
09   16   671   BoRed
10   13   653   joezydudek
11   19   650   Ycuzz
12   22   648   LovelyCushionedHeader
13   16   644   Keegans Perm
14   13   642   rushyman
15   29   639   ollyfrom.tv
16   18   628   Vishwa Atma
17   29   626   Mivi
18   28   613   tylerjnorton
19   18   598   EstonianRed
20   16   594   Oldie
21   28   581   Yorkshire-Red
22   15   574   Carrard
23   13   574   Trendisnotdestiny
24   28   557   carraggeriise
25   00   551   I am new
26   00   519   MelwoodBoy
27   00   467   mickitez
28   00   315   Spearling
29   00   250   Shambles
30   00   171   jackh
31   00   106   TheCunningScorpion
32   00   092   jbdbreds
33   00   081   speedydidi
34   00   072   AdzLFC
35   00   012   Moloskari
36   00   010   riismeister


Top scorers - Ndeyanka, ollyfrom.tv, mivi (29)

[Barneylfc∗]

CHAMPIONSHIP

LovelyCushionedHeader beats Vishwas score for the 4th week in a row to stretch his lead to 20 points. Promotion will be sealed in 3 games after Southampton if he can keep or increase his lead to 4th place by then. Trendisnotdestiny, despite 3am PM's asking to change the rules for promotion  , fails to take advantage of Carrard and Oldie not getting correct result or first goalscorer.

01   22   648   LovelyCushionedHeader
02   18   628   Vishwa Atma
03   16   594   Oldie
--------------------------------------------------
04   15   574   Carrard
05   13   574   Trendisnotdestiny
06   28   557   carraggeriise
07   00   467   mickitez
08   00   315   Spearling
09   00   250   Shambles
10   00   171   jackh
11   00   106   TheCunningScorpion
12   00   092   jbdbreds
13   00   081   speedydidi
14   00   072   AdzLFC
15   00   012   Moloskari
16   00   010   riismeister

[Trendisnotdestiny]

CHAMPIONSHIP

LovelyCushionedHeader beats Vishwas score for the 4th week in a row to stretch his lead to 20 points. Promotion will be sealed in 3 games after Southampton if he can keep or increase his lead to 4th place by then. Trendisnotdestiny, despite 3am PM's asking to change the rules for promotion  , fails to take advantage of Carrard and Oldie not getting correct result or first goalscorer.

01   22   648   LovelyCushionedHeader
02   18   628   Vishwa Atma
03   16   594   Oldie
--------------------------------------------------
04   15   574   Carrard
05   13   574   Trendisnotdestiny
06   28   557   carraggeriise
07   00   467   mickitez
08   00   315   Spearling
09   00   250   Shambles
10   00   171   jackh
11   00   106   TheCunningScorpion
12   00   092   jbdbreds
13   00   081   speedydidi
14   00   072   AdzLFC
15   00   012   Moloskari
16   00   010   riismeister

Ahem....

3am in GBR is 10pm here in the States.  Although, I did not give much consideration to the receiver.  Apologia simplicitus!

As far as the PM, I agree it was not the most sporting of suggestions.   Although in my defense, third place in the championship still has to face two other teams to get promoted in the real world.   Now, if I were Oldie, I'd be singing a different tune.   

My hypocrisy knows no bounds....

[Barneylfc∗]

God loves a trier mate 

If you'd have suggested it back in September or October, the conversation could've been had. But definitely not with 6 games to go.

Anyway, the proposal was

Not Trying,

What do you and the lads say to how the Championship really do it with a bracket (1 & 2 automatically) with the last team promoted having to win two head to head games to progress (Oldie vs. Carrageriise and meself (Trend vs. Carrard)  ---  West Ham game and winners do the Boro?

Just want to make sure we are authentic to the process 

If not, no worries...

My answer to it would be that that type of system would be more suited to a competition like the RPLP, but in this type, not so much. Without looking at past seasons scoring totals, there's the possibility in your suggestion of someone in 3rd going into the 'play off' with 2 games to go - but then they end the season with a higher total after 38 games than the person in second after 36, only to lose out on promotion as they lost the play off. I don't think it would be fair in that scenario. 

[Trendisnotdestiny]

God loves a trier mate 

If you'd have suggested it back in September or October, the conversation could've been had. But definitely not with 6 games to go.

Anyway, the proposal was

My answer to it would be that that type of system would be more suited to a competition like the RPLP, but in this type, not so much. Without looking at past seasons scoring totals, there's the possibility in your suggestion of someone in 3rd going into the 'play off' with 2 games to go - but then they end the season with a higher total after 38 games than the person in second after 36, only to lose out on promotion as they lost the play off. I don't think it would be fair in that scenario.

See, this is why you run the show.  So many issues to consider, and group equity as a core value.

How about I just get better at picking Liverpool games, keep my powder dry and the rest will take care of itself 

Going to beat CP by 5-0 with no cards with Gini getting all the goals.  That's the ticket!

[Barneylfc∗]

See, this is why you run the show.  So many issues to consider, and group equity as a core value.

How about I just get better at picking Liverpool games, keep my powder dry and the rest will take care of itself 

Going to be CP by 5-0 with no cards with Gini getting all the goals.  That's the ticket!

I'm only running the show as Rushyman couldn't be arsed doing it anymore 

The last few weeks will be interesting. I need to ensure I gain 23 points on Kopite1971 to take my second place trophy again for the third year in a row   

[Trendisnotdestiny]

I'm only running the show as Rushyman couldn't be arsed doing it anymore 

The last few weeks will be interesting. I need to ensure I gain 23 points on Kopite1971 to take my second place trophy again for the third year in a row 

I wish there was a complete history of this competition in RAWK, I would read it --- sounds like you have forgotten more than I know about this year, mate.

Anywho, without knowing Kopite1971 on a personal level (near my age though if the handle is to be taken seriously), I would say its diabolical to deprive you of another 2nd place trophy considering Rushyman cannot be arsed and the number of bloody yanks like meself you have to deal with at all hours of the morning...

Here's a digital pint for you until I get my arse to Anfield

[BoRed]

If you'd have suggested it back in September or October, the conversation could've been had. But definitely not with 6 games to go.

See, this is why you run the show.

Now listen up, newbies - I run the Premier League and set the rules, including those dealing with relegation and promotion. And, unlike rushy, I have no intention of relinquishing power any time soon.

However, despite my dictatorial tendencies, I welcome discussion on any topic, but no rules will ever be changed during the season, not even in September. In any case, I agree with Barney on this, so there will be no playoffs.

I wish there was a complete history of this competition in RAWK, I would read it --- sounds like you have forgotten more than I know about this year, mate.

Old threads are never deleted on RAWK, so you can find pretty much the entire history here, apart from the first couple of seasons which were run on another forum. I think tyler put everything on Google docs a while ago, too, though it probably doesn't include the latest data.

[Barneylfc∗]

That's why he runs the show Trend 

[BoRed]

That's why he runs the show Trend 

That's better.

[Barneylfc∗]

MelwoodBoy needs to be careful, another two missed entries will mean automatic relegation, regardless of league position.

Has this happened before?

[BoRed]

Has this happened before?

Not since 2011, but quite regularly before that. In 2005, of all years, six people were relegated.

[Barneylfc∗]

Not since 2011, but quite regularly before that. In 2005, of all years, six people were relegated.

So there is precedence then. I think the wording of the rule should be changed to "10 or more"  Currently it just says "more than 10"

[BoRed]

So there is precedence then. I think the wording of the rule should be changed to "10 or more"  Currently it just says "more than 10"

You must have messed up copying & pasting then.

[BoRed]

Having said that, rules are rules, so Mel would have to miss another three games to be relegated. More bad news for whoever finishes fourth in the Championship.