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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2016, 09:08:25 pm »
Most serious clue for events in Turkey! Mlt officer tells bystander: Go home, armed forces took over administration

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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2016, 09:14:52 pm »
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The Prime Minister #BinaliYıldırım is on @ntv saying "We are not calling this a coup. It is an uprising."
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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2016, 09:24:04 pm »
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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2016, 09:25:09 pm »
What are they couping are uprising about, exactly?
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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2016, 09:25:58 pm »
PHOTO: Turkish media show armoured vehicles at Istanbul's Ataturk airport.


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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2016, 09:26:33 pm »
Bit of history in Turkey with the army, secularism and coups. Erdogen has gone too far it seems.

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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2016, 09:26:45 pm »
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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2016, 09:27:36 pm »
The PM didn't think they'd coup, he thought they were chicken.

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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2016, 09:28:06 pm »
The PM didn't think they'd coup, he thought they were chicken.
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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2016, 09:28:34 pm »
What are they couping are uprising about, exactly?

Either: Erdogan going full dictator.

Or: Military hitting the secular reset button against what they see as the increasing religious aspects to the government.

Erdogan has been increasingly pulling away from Atakturks vision for turkey this may be the military hitting the reset button. Again.

Erdogan will not be missed. Certainly not by the more secular Turks.

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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2016, 09:28:37 pm »
This should be interesting.

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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2016, 09:29:31 pm »
#Turkey’s PM Yıldırım says intelligence agencies have been cleared to confront the military in cities. #Erdogan is on holiday.

Yikes.....

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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2016, 09:29:57 pm »
Excellent, bring down the dictator Erdogan.
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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2016, 09:30:27 pm »
#Turkey’s PM Yıldırım says intelligence agencies have been cleared to confront the military in cities. #Erdogan is on holiday.

Yikes.....

If he's out the country he will never return I would guess.

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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2016, 09:30:35 pm »
What are they couping are uprising about, exactly?
I wanna make a Skrtel joke but this looks serious, hopefully it`ll calm down.

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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2016, 09:30:39 pm »
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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2016, 09:30:48 pm »
Conflict News ‏@Conflicts  2m2 minutes ago
BREAKING: Official statement from the Turkish Armed Forces says it has taken over the government. - @MahirZeynalov

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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2016, 09:31:51 pm »
Conflict News ‏@Conflicts  2m2 minutes ago
BREAKING: Official statement from the Turkish Armed Forces says it has taken over the government. - @MahirZeynalov

Good news. Goodbye Erdogan you fucking criminal.

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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2016, 09:33:23 pm »
Where is Erdogan on holiday?

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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2016, 09:33:34 pm »
Good news. Goodbye Erdogan you fucking criminal.
Well... Let's see...

Firstly, has he actually been disposed?

Secondly, when did any military coup genuinely help the average man and woman in the street?

Let's just wait and see
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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2016, 09:34:57 pm »
Good news. Goodbye Erdogan you fucking criminal.
Might not actually be true at this point.

Sad state of affairs when our first thought is to welcome a military coup.

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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2016, 09:36:42 pm »
Either: Erdogan going full dictator.

Or: Military hitting the secular reset button against what they see as the increasing religious aspects to the government.

Erdogan has been increasingly pulling away from Atakturks vision for turkey this may be the military hitting the reset button. Again.

Erdogan will not be missed. Certainly not by the more secular Turks.

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Pseudo Religious governance V's Anti-Religious governance V's a Despot. Is that it?

Genuinely not close to the dynamics of Turkish politics/life style, so that's my guess from what you're getting at?
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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2016, 09:37:14 pm »
Secondly, when did any military coup genuinely help the average man and woman in the street?
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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2016, 09:38:29 pm »
It might be US backed, there was rumblings about one happening in march, with Erdogan making accusations about it.

If he's out the country he will never return I would guess.

He isnt, he's in Bodrum.
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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2016, 09:43:30 pm »
It might be US backed, there was rumblings about one happening in march, with Erdogan making accusations about it.
He isnt, he's in Bodrum.

Jail for him then if this plays out.

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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2016, 09:44:07 pm »
Hostages have been taken now apparently
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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2016, 09:45:19 pm »
Didn't erdogan make turkey a force again financially and military?
I still think the majority public are behind him, guess time will tell.

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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2016, 09:45:58 pm »
From the Wall Street Jounal in May

"Paranoia is a very comforting state of mind. If you think they're out to get you, it means you think you matter"

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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2016, 09:47:39 pm »
Didn't erdogan make turkey a force again financially and military?
I still think the majority public are behind him, guess time will tell.

You could certainly argue that. The religious creep has been noticeable and he has basically been trying to make himself legal dictator (and failed due to not quite getting enough votes) for the last 10 years.

He has massive support in rural regions.

He had started shutting dissenting newspapers down recently.

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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2016, 09:59:53 pm »
So Skrtel lands in Turkey and immediately a coup happens.

These things can't be unrelated.
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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2016, 10:01:21 pm »
Erdogan's playbook is very similar to Putin's. He has all but made it impossible to democratically oppose his regime, and willingly launched an all-out war against part of his country's citizens to overturn the results of an unfavorable election.

The sooner he is gone from Turkish politics, the better for that country. Fallout will be messy as fuck, though.



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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2016, 10:02:29 pm »
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Worth pointing out that above Ataturk's tomb, in letters of gold, are orders to the military to preserve secularism from Islam(ism)

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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2016, 10:04:10 pm »
Stupid question,  is this just the military having no faith in Erdogan?  Could that be a good thing or is it only going to get messier?

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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2016, 10:04:48 pm »
So Skrtel lands in Turkey and immediately a coup happens.

These things can't be unrelated.

And Boris appointed Foreign Secretary after writing a poem about Erdogan.

In all seriousness, coups aren't generally 'positive'.
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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2016, 10:08:05 pm »
Stupid question,  is this just the military having no faith in Erdogan?  Could that be a good thing or is it only going to get messier?

Not so long ago, Erdogan and his party moved to strip immunity from all MPs. That was widely seen as a critical step before purging parliament from all opposition (including the secular nationalists that back the military).
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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2016, 10:09:20 pm »
Is the PM the guy who kills Kurdish people just for being Kurds?

And he wants to turn Turkey from a secular nation to one following heavy islam?

Go coup go!

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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2016, 10:10:35 pm »
Reports in he's legged it in a private jet.

Looks like the army won.
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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2016, 10:13:36 pm »
You could certainly argue that. The religious creep has been noticeable and he has basically been trying to make himself legal dictator (and failed due to not quite getting enough votes) for the last 10 years.

He has massive support in rural regions.

He had started shutting dissenting newspapers down recently.

Until ataturk came turkey was an Islamic run country. Not even 100 years ago.

Gulen has been planning this coup for time, Erdogen was expecting it so let's see what he's planned for this scenario.

The main army general has been taken hostage aswel.
 
Speaking to Turks, many were happy with erdogen but let's see what will happen.
 

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Re: Turkey - military on the streets
« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2016, 10:13:41 pm »
Military's statement is being read on TRT. "Council of Peace in the Country" they name themselves.

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