Author Topic: Joël Matip (Job Joël André Matip) (Read 536778 times)

nyrrard · « **Reply #280 on:** September 16, 2016, 02:09:58 am »

It's not hard seeing that he looks a little thin/lean. Seems to manage just fine so far tho. However I do believe some extra weight would help. Perhaps not. Perhaps it would just slow him down. No expert on the matter but I understand what rash is saying.

Shoot me (du-du-du-du)
shoot me...

Medellin · « **Reply #281 on:** September 16, 2016, 03:59:02 pm »

Just read Matip won't be going to the Africa Cup of Nations & will be concentrating on his club career.
Has to be old news if I'm breaking this!

“I would say at the moment I will be concentrating on Liverpool. It is a long time until January so you never know, but that is the idea,” he said

www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/09/15/liverpool-defender-joel-matip-im-not-scared-of-diego-costa---you/amp/

Doc Red · « **Reply #282 on:** September 16, 2016, 05:34:11 pm »

Quote from: USCouse on September 15, 2016, 05:48:34 pm

fair enough, Harden is a quality defender

The perfect defensive specimen and the benchmark for all defenders.
Matip can learn a thing or two on defence from Harden.

Lone Star Red · « **Reply #283 on:** September 16, 2016, 05:36:46 pm »

Quote from: USCouse on September 15, 2016, 05:48:34 pm

fair enough, Harden is a quality defender

Nessy76 · « **Reply #284 on:** September 16, 2016, 06:08:29 pm »

Quote from: Medellin on September 16, 2016, 03:59:02 pm

Just read Matip won't be going to the Africa Cup of Nations & will be concentrating on his club career.
Has to be old news if I'm breaking this!

“I would say at the moment I will be concentrating on Liverpool. It is a long time until January so you never know, but that is the idea,” he said

www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/09/15/liverpool-defender-joel-matip-im-not-scared-of-diego-costa---you/amp/

Think he's had a falling out of some sort with the manager, hasn't played for the NT for a while.

Dim Glas · « **Reply #285 on:** September 16, 2016, 09:54:02 pm »

He is good.

planet-terror · « **Reply #286 on:** September 16, 2016, 09:54:20 pm »

Not bad like

Kopenhagen · « **Reply #287 on:** September 16, 2016, 09:54:37 pm »

Rolls Royce. Can see why Bayern wanted him.

SpartanTree. No deccies or lights. · « **Reply #288 on:** September 16, 2016, 09:54:50 pm »

Solid.

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #289 on:** September 16, 2016, 09:54:53 pm »

Class again

edge · « **Reply #290 on:** September 16, 2016, 09:55:21 pm »

Is he chief now?

Sir Psycho Sexy · « **Reply #291 on:** September 16, 2016, 09:55:33 pm »

Don't think he should have gone to ground for the Chelsea goal, but his overall performance was great. Looks like a solid defender and god knows we need those

lapapa · « **Reply #292 on:** September 16, 2016, 09:56:28 pm »

He's boss AF.

Ma Vie en Rouge · « **Reply #293 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:13:53 pm »

Early days - as they say - but he looks like the best central defender we've signed for years and years to me. A class act.

rscanderlech · « **Reply #294 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:14:02 pm »

Quote from: Sir Psycho Sexy on September 16, 2016, 09:55:33 pm

Don't think he should have gone to ground for the Chelsea goal, but his overall performance was great. Looks like a solid defender and god knows we need those

You are quite right, but I still don't get it: even when we defend well, there are still a couple of points where we screw up enough collectively or individually to concede. Is this normal, or is it due to a lack of quality, or is it due to a lack of complementarity of players, or is it due to a lack of experience playing together...why do we always concede goals? 3 + 2 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 8 conceded in the first 5 games if I'm not mistaken.

But yes, he looks good overall.

Gmol · « **Reply #295 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:16:19 pm »

Anyone comparing him to Hyppia is definitely underestimating him this guy has everything, passing, composure, height, normally stays on his feet and establish ing a partnership with Lovern

cptrios · « **Reply #296 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:19:17 pm »

This guy might just help me move on from Sakho. He's the first defender we've had in ages who looks justifiably calm.

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #297 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:20:09 pm »

Started well, just a very solid defender. Heaven knows we've needed one of them.

King Klopp. · « **Reply #298 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:32:36 pm »

Thought he played well other than the horrific defending for the goal. That's my issue with most of our defenders though, nearly every week it's "other than the goal" so hopefully we can sort that out.

That said, it feels different with Matip. I think he looks REALLY good. Brainfart for the goal, I think he was expecting the first time cross across the 6 yard box and was trying to cut it out.

Has been great though for the most part. Matip and Lovren is looking like it could be a great partnership.

rscanderlech · « **Reply #299 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:34:27 pm »

Quote from: Gmol on September 16, 2016, 10:16:19 pm

Anyone comparing him to Hyppia is definitely underestimating him this guy has everything, passing, composure, height, normally stays on his feet and establish ing a partnership with Lovern

Hyypia is our best defender in almost 20 years. I don't think anyone is underestimating Matip.

wemmick · « **Reply #300 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:36:21 pm »

Stuck Costa in his backpocket tonight. Not to many defenders will do that this season. Matip is a fucking quality CB.

Gmol · « **Reply #301 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:37:25 pm »

Quote from: rscanderlech on September 16, 2016, 10:34:27 pm

Hyypia is our best defender in almost 20 years. I don't think anyone is underestimating Matip.

Hyppia was a great player, Matip, is going to be a lot better as he has a higher level of attributes. Will be superior and I love Sami.

TheShanklyGates · « **Reply #302 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:39:08 pm »

He's no James Harden.

King Klopp. · « **Reply #303 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:40:05 pm »

Quote from: Gmol on September 16, 2016, 10:37:25 pm

Hyppia was a great player, Matip, is going to be a lot better as he has a higher level of attributes. Will be superior and I love Sami.

Don't talk nonsense. Nobody in the history of the Premier League has been 'a lot better' than Hyypia. He's one of the top 10 CBs the Prem has seen.

na fir dearg · « **Reply #304 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:41:28 pm »

That run forward in the first half...

yeah he fucked up for the goal, first mistake he has made really - overall excellent

Keith Lard · « **Reply #305 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:41:31 pm »

Quote from: Gmol on September 16, 2016, 10:37:25 pm

Hyppia was a great player, Matip, is going to be a lot better as he has a higher level of attributes. Will be superior and I love Sami.

lol

Funky_Gibbons · « **Reply #306 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:45:52 pm »

Quote from: Gmol on September 16, 2016, 10:37:25 pm

Hyppia was a great player, Matip, is going to be a lot better as he has a higher level of attributes. Will be superior and I love Sami.

Hyypia won almost every trophy he could during his time here. Matip hasn't even played half a dozen games yet.

Gmol · « **Reply #307 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:46:04 pm »

He does, you'll realise it as the season goes on , dominant centre back with pace and passing, and working with less midfield protection. He has the best attributes of Hyppia and Agger. Pretty much the perfect combination.

Gmol · « **Reply #308 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:49:37 pm »

Quote from: Funky_Gibbons on September 16, 2016, 10:45:52 pm

Hyypia won almost every trophy he could during his time here. Matip hasn't even played half a dozen games yet.

Agreed, don't get me wrong, Hyppia was a great defender, Matip has more in his locker, it's obvious from Schalke, and from games already,

rscanderlech · « **Reply #309 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:50:25 pm »

Quote from: Gmol on September 16, 2016, 10:37:25 pm

Hyppia was a great player, Matip, is going to be a lot better as he has a higher level of attributes. Will be superior and I love Sami.

To add to what the others have already said, not only was Hyypia a brilliant defender in terms of key defensive skills like reading a game, dominating in the air etc., but he also had great technique. He was good on the ball. He wasn't a dribbler, nor was he as supremely cultured as Mats Hummels, but, in the words of Dietmar Hamman, he had the technique of a midfielder.

Had Hyypia been fast, he would have been one of the best in the world.

SenorGarcia · « **Reply #310 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:52:07 pm »

Poetry in motion.

Aside from their goal, Matip and Lovren were top notch tonight.

Gmol · « **Reply #311 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:52:10 pm »

Quote from: rscanderlech on September 16, 2016, 10:50:25 pm

To add to what the others have already said, not only was Hyypia a brilliant defender in terms of key defensive skills like reading a game, dominating in the air etc., but he also had great technique. He was good on the ball. He wasn't a dribbler, nor was he as supremely cultured as Mats Hummels, but, in the words of Dietmar Hamman, he had the technique of a midfielder.

Not disagreeing, he had a lot, Matip has everything

Chalky Boots · « **Reply #312 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:53:46 pm »

Quote from: Gmol on September 16, 2016, 10:37:25 pm

Hyppia was a great player, Matip, is going to be a lot better as he has a higher level of attributes. Will be superior and I love Sami.

I'll raise what he said, Hyypia was probably second to Hansen for the best CB's to play for this club. You never know, Matip might be but let's just remember he hasn't even had a season with us yet; let alone 10.

He's a very smooth CB, heads footballs to team mates, keeps the ball and knows when to complicate things and when to keep it simple. It is a lazy comparison but you can see why Manc lovers like Tyler are comparing him to Ferdinand.

Clayton Bigsby · « **Reply #313 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:56:43 pm »

should have done better for their goal but imperious otherwise. So far, so great

Nessy76 · « **Reply #314 on:** September 16, 2016, 10:56:46 pm »

Quote from: Chalky Boots on September 16, 2016, 10:53:46 pm

I'll raise what he said, Hyypia was probably second to Hansen for the best CB's to play for this club. You never know, Matip might be but let's just remember he hasn't even had a season with us yet; let alone 10.

He's a very smooth CB, heads footballs to team mates, keeps the ball and knows when to complicate things and when to keep it simple. It is a lazy comparison but you can see why Manc lovers like Tyler are comparing him to Ferdinand.

Yes, although fortunately he's not a saggy gobbed, cardigan wearing, drug test dodging bellend like Ferdinand.

Betty Blue · « **Reply #315 on:** September 16, 2016, 11:02:32 pm »

The dynamism of Sakho crossed with the calm assuredness of an Agger/Hyypia. It's early days yet, but this guy is looking like an absolute steal.

Gmol · « **Reply #316 on:** September 16, 2016, 11:04:15 pm »

Quote from: Chalky Boots on September 16, 2016, 10:53:46 pm

I'll raise what he said, Hyypia was probably second to Hansen for the best CB's to play for this club. You never know, Matip might be but let's just remember he hasn't even had a season with us yet; let alone 10.

He's a very smooth CB, heads footballs to team mates, keeps the ball and knows when to complicate things and when to keep it simple. It is a lazy comparison but you can see why Manc lovers like Tyler are comparing him to Ferdinand.

Agreed mate, I've seen many false dawns but this guy missed preseason, was already in a pretty good team, I actually can't think of a defender we've ever had so good on the ball while so decent in the air.

wemmick · « **Reply #317 on:** September 16, 2016, 11:08:46 pm »

Don't know if he is up there with Hyypia, but I think Matip makes us a title contender. He made defending Vardy and Costa look easy. I can only imagine what he'll do to all the other strikers in the league.

Reeves · « **Reply #318 on:** September 16, 2016, 11:09:30 pm »

Looks to be a great defedner but better than Hyypia - behave!! Certainly not yet......

JackWard33 · « **Reply #319 on:** September 16, 2016, 11:11:28 pm »

Never sure how to assess a defender whose had a really good game but also dropped a rickett
What on earth he's doing going to ground on their goal is beyond me - bizarre. He's got to be calmer in those moments.

However when the game was in front of him he looked boss.
Ton of potential