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Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« on: April 27, 2016, 04:16:30 PM »
I think this needs to be watched by all Liverpool fans and non Liverpool fans.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/d-QzlFTFznk" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/d-QzlFTFznk</a>

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/announcements/218601-andy-burnham-s-powerful-commons-statement-on-hillsborough
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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2016, 04:29:08 PM »
Incredible...he hammers home some of the points perfectly. Such simple statements and simple questions he is raising.

His request now that the prosecution goes forward was very powerful.
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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2016, 04:34:58 PM »
From the heart. Thank you for posting.
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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2016, 04:49:56 PM »
What is with the "yeahs" in the background?

I don't know shit about British politics but has it ever been like this at the commons?
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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2016, 04:51:34 PM »
What is with the "yeahs" in the background?

I don't know shit about British politics but has it ever been like this at the commons?

They're saying 'hear hear', basically that they agree and encourage what is being said. Happens every week.
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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2016, 04:53:47 PM »
They're saying 'hear hear', basically that they agree and encourage what is being said. Happens every week.
Can't they just clap?

Again, excuse my ignorance, but I found it quite odd for a speech to have people say stuff in the background rather than clapping.
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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2016, 05:01:37 PM »
Now let the edifice fall.

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2016, 05:04:34 PM »
Fantastic speech.
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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2016, 05:10:50 PM »
Can't they just clap?

Again, excuse my ignorance, but I found it quite odd for a speech to have people say stuff in the background rather than clapping.

You can't clap in the House Of Commons

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32913113
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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2016, 05:11:32 PM »
Absolutely superb by Burnham that....hats off to him
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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2016, 05:12:48 PM »
First class speech from Andy Burnham. Hopefully the government takes not and acts on his recommendations.

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2016, 05:14:59 PM »
You can't clap in the House Of Commons

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32913113
Steve Rotheram was applauded in the Commons back in 2012 when he read the names of the 96 out.  We have a habit of breaking new ground (although you are correct, it is notacceptable practice in Parliament).
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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2016, 05:18:53 PM »
Andy Burnham delivered an unbelievable speech,well done son!!

Just over 3 hours after saying David Comptons position was untenable..he is suspended.

Hit many huge points including the houses chambers & No10 itself.

Take a fucking bow Andy!!

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2016, 05:22:37 PM »
From the heart. Thank you for posting.

Seconded, brilliant speech! 

I fear the CPS may trot out "not in the public interest" regarding prosecutions but I hope I'm wrong and the guilty are hammered.

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2016, 05:25:40 PM »
That was an outstanding speech.
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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2016, 05:28:41 PM »
A magnificent speech! ;D

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2016, 05:29:25 PM »
Don't know what to add other than concur with the OP. Powerful stuff, and shame on our country if it doesn't act on every word.

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2016, 05:32:30 PM »
Outstanding yet again by Andy Burnham. Every point raised there is exactly what we, and the families want.

Interesting to read about the clapping bit, I never knew that, but didn't he get a standing ovation by a few ( on the opposition benches obviously) at the end there?


Seconded, brilliant speech! 

I fear the CPS may trot out "not in the public interest" regarding prosecutions but I hope I'm wrong and the guilty are hammered.

Heard this said a few times over the past 2 days. I don't think the CPS will have any option. This has been far too high profile, and it is obvious that Perverting the course of justice, perjury and manslaughter have all been committed. Can you imagine the uproar if they were let off the hook now?

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2016, 05:44:29 PM »
Fantastic speech, Mr Burnham.

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2016, 05:45:40 PM »
Fantsastic speech,,

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2016, 05:48:38 PM »
Wow , what a fantastic speech straight from the heart , and hammering home his points perfectly , thankyou sir and thankyou for aiding the fight

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2016, 05:57:56 PM »
Fantastic speech that needs spreading so everyone is educated about what happened and why the fight isn't over

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2016, 05:58:40 PM »
Belter of a speech.

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2016, 06:03:45 PM »
Nailed it.
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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2016, 06:18:56 PM »
Moving and heartfelt, thank you Andy Burnham.

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2016, 06:19:21 PM »
Interesting point made on the radio,  Theresa May didn't rule out any of Burnham's points.
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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2016, 06:20:05 PM »
Pity that bastard Thatcher couldn't have waited a bit longer to croak it. This verdict, and this speech,  might have tipped her over the edge.

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2016, 06:25:36 PM »
Powerful stuff from Burnham. He's contributed plenty to the fight over the years and I've a lot of respect for him.

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2016, 06:38:50 PM »
A brilliant speech.

Here's the full transcript: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hillsborough-verdict-andy-burnhams-emotional-7845130

And this excerpt deserves repeating...

"Mr Speaker, the last question is for us.

What kind of country leaves people, who did no more than wave off their loved-ones to a football match, sitting in a court room 27 years later begging for the reputations of their sons, daughters, brothers, sisters and fathers?

The answer is one that needs to do some deep soul-searching.

This cover-up went right to the top.

It was advanced in the committee rooms of this House and in the press rooms of 10 Downing Street.

It persisted because of collusion between elites in politics, police and the media."

This needed saying, good on you Andy.

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2016, 06:49:36 PM »
"We've had 27 years of sleepless nights, now it's their turn." Margaret Aspinall

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2016, 06:55:54 PM »
Great speech, thank you Andy Burnham.  We'll get there, step by step.

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2016, 07:01:10 PM »
Excellent speech.
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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2016, 07:03:18 PM »
Nailed it. What a man.

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2016, 07:06:08 PM »
Take a cookie from the jar Andy, fantastic stuff.

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2016, 07:14:03 PM »
Superb speech spot on

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« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2016, 08:10:07 PM »

A future Labour leader & PM I'd say

I was thinking exactly that.

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2016, 08:12:05 PM »
Just watched the vigil. What a two days. Well in Andy B. 1 gone and more to follow.
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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2016, 08:12:28 PM »
Andy Burnham, probably the only fella who could justifiably wear a half'n'half scarf!  (Liverpool/Everton)
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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2016, 08:19:24 PM »
Fantastic speach, Came from the heart. Well done Andy

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Re: Andy Burnham's powerful Commons speech on Hillsborough
« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2016, 08:33:19 PM »
There are speeches and there are speeches from the heart, Andy meant every word and he was spot on. what chance has anyone got against organizations like SYP on there own if it took a mass of overwhelming evidence, a whole city supporting them growing to hundreds of thousands, millions of pounds and it still took 27 yrs to get justice.
What sickens me is there still trying to use spin. Perceived differences. !!!!! did any of these SYP people actually follow the evidence daily, I will leave it at that.

ust after midday on Wednesday South Yorkshire police issued a fresh statement to try to head off already fierce criticism of the force’s conduct at the inquest.

The force said sorry for “perceived” differences between an apology it had issued in 2012 and its conduct at the inquest. “We have never sought, at any stage, to defend the failures of SYP or its officers. Nevertheless, these failures had to be put into the context of other contributory factors. In other words, where do the failings of SYP stand in the overall picture?

“We are sorry if our approach has been perceived as at odds with our earlier apology, this was certainly not our intention.”
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