Topic: Louis Van Gaal was the Manager of Mourinho United

[Michel]

Got to laugh at the pro-Liverpool media attempt to cause a shitstorm, they've known about this 'mutiny' for weeks yet choose to expose it just before we play LFC.

Oh they are is an agenda against Man Utd.
Meltdown.

[JimmysHammer]

Got to laugh at the pro-Liverpool media attempt to cause a shitstorm, they've known about this 'mutiny' for weeks yet choose to expose it just before we play LFC.

Sounds like Carrick and Rooney passed on the feelings of the squad regarding training which is well within their rights as Captain and VC, no problem with that.

I can't wait to give you a good hiding at the weekend and shove it up their arses.

Pinched from the City thread but...

http://www.typicalcity.org/2014/09/15/david-mooney-is-there-an-anti-manchester-city-media-agenda/


 everyone – informed me that it’s my duty to talk up Manchester United at every given opportunity,

‘Why?’ you might ask. Certainly, I did ask. And the answer was clear: Manchester United are the bigger revenue bringers, so their fans need to have their egos massaged.


Looks like we both need tinfoil hats mate. 

[pjshaun]

The most important thing to analyse here is this- Why did it take Rooney and Carrick a whole season to open up? Why now? What was their dark secret that Van Gaal was holding?

[Chris~]

The most important thing to analyse here is this- Why did it take Rooney and Carrick a whole season to open up? Why now? What was their dark secret that Van Gaal was holding?

He might have changed things for this season.

[Sir Psycho Sexy]

Louis van Gaal can be credited for implementing a playing philosophy, which made us very successful in the first season," Lahm writes. "But he refused to acknowledge the deficits of his philosophy in the second season and he refused to eliminate them." "Our game was completely geared towards offense and this saw us concede a lot of goals in Van Gaal's second year," Lahm adds. "I pointed out some of our areas of concern to Van Gaal and he listened to me, but then he would do what he wanted to do.

[RossoBianchi]

Sneak preview of Van Gaal's training attire...

[Chakan]

I'm confused didn't the players know this when he was hired? I mean there were tons of articles detailing how he works with players and his methods.

[4pool]

A lot of this would have never happened under Gill and Fergie.

Changes at the top and the media are getting more briefs that the previous regime would have kept in house.

I like it. 

[exiledintheUSA]

Got to laugh at the pro-Liverpool media attempt to cause a shitstorm, they've known about this 'mutiny' for weeks yet choose to expose it just before we play LFC.

Sounds like Carrick and Rooney passed on the feelings of the squad regarding training which is well within their rights as Captain and VC, no problem with that.

I can't wait to give you a good hiding at the weekend and shove it up their arses.

Pro-Liverpool media?  You really do live with your head up yer arse.

[4pool]

Pro-Liverpool media?  You really do live with your head up yer arse.

You realize Cantona likes to go fishing a lot.

Usually catches a few...

[redy]

The media is not pro-anybody.

There probably will be an article soon about how Liverpool are in imminent crisis too. And then once the match finishes depending on who wins, the loser will be in deep deep crisis with questions asked by players, their wives/their wives hairdressers/their dogs/their dogwalkers etc etc.

I am sure none of this is new or surprising. Has always happened IMO. Only difference is its now more visible and accessible to everybody.

[exiledintheUSA]

You realize Cantona likes to go fishing a lot.

Usually catches a few...

I always respond to his drivel, so he's not really caught me Still for the life of me can't understand how he is still around on here........

[HighSix]

Does seem a bit strange to sit on the story for a couple of weeks & why the players in the first place would seek a meeting at the start of the season.

Hope its true buts sounds like a load of media shit.

[RossoBianchi]

Arsene Wenger: "We have known about Martial since he was a kid. He is more a winger-type but is an exceptional talent."

Thiago Silva: "I do not know if Anthony Martial is worth €80 million or less, but he really reminds me of Thierry Henry. He has his (Henry’s) technique, his physique, his reading of the game.”

Louis Saha: "In France we call him the next Thierry Henry because he can play left or right, he's got a great ability with the ball, he can take on three, four players with ease, there is no problem."

Eric Cantona: "Martial is France's biggest talent, in three years he'll be worth €100m. Hopefully he scores many goals for United."

Yohan Cabaye: “He is like Thierry Henry. Trust me. He has the same qualities as Thierry."

Paul Pogba: “I call him ‘the young old man’ because he’s 19 and he’s already so mature for his age. He has great ability and a huge amount of potential. He will bring a lot to the French team."

[CraigDS]

CraigDS: "He cost how much?  "

[Chakan]

<snip>

Thierry Henry : “So it is a massive gamble but you have to do that these days, especially in the situation Manchester United are in."

[Michel]

Louis Van Gaal : "It was a ridiculous amount of money, but it's the crazy world we are in.I have not bought Martial for me, I have bought him for the next manager of Manchester United"

[exiledintheUSA]

Arsene Wenger: "We have known about Martial since he was a kid. He is more a winger-type but is an exceptional talent."

Thiago Silva: "I do not know if Anthony Martial is worth €80 million or less, but he really reminds me of Thierry Henry. He has his (Henry’s) technique, his physique, his reading of the game.”

Louis Saha: "In France we call him the next Thierry Henry because he can play left or right, he's got a great ability with the ball, he can take on three, four players with ease, there is no problem."

Eric Cantona: "Martial is France's biggest talent, in three years he'll be worth €100m. Hopefully he scores many goals for United."

Yohan Cabaye: “He is like Thierry Henry. Trust me. He has the same qualities as Thierry."

Paul Pogba: “I call him ‘the young old man’ because he’s 19 and he’s already so mature for his age. He has great ability and a huge amount of potential. He will bring a lot to the French team."

Heard it all before with Anthony Le Tallec.

[RossoBianchi]

Heard it all before with Anthony Le Tallec.

Chris Bascombe's finest hour...

[exiledintheUSA]

Chris Bascombe's finest hour...

Seriously, go back and look at the quotes from various football people, it's like those quotes above but with the names changed.



And we didn't panic spunk 60M for the pleasure.

[tommy LFC]

Louis Van Gaal : "It was a ridiculous amount of money, but it's the crazy world we are in.I have not bought Martial for me, I have bought him for the next manager of Manchester United"

Madness to say that. Will lose a lot of authority and respect.

And if they already don't like his methods another couple of defeats could see the players give up on him.

[exiledintheUSA]

Madness to say that. Will lose a lot of authority and respect.

99% of those at Old Trafford won't give a fuck, as long as the prawn sandwiches are on form.

[Chris~]

I thought they were joke quotes.

So all he has to do is live up to being compared to one of best strikers of the last 20+ years.

[Hij]

Does seem a bit strange to sit on the story for a couple of weeks & why the players in the first place would seek a meeting at the start of the season.

Hope its true buts sounds like a load of media shit.

Two broadsheets? Definitely been spoken to by someone trustworthy off the record.

[exiledintheUSA]

Two broadsheets? Definitely been spoken to by someone trustworthy off the record.

Bet he's a Spanish goalkeeper......

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Van Gaal looks like a womble that has been vandalised by a drunken squirrel.

[Crosby Nick]

Bet he's a Spanish goalkeeper......

Two disaffected Spanish goalkeepers on the books...it's still not a clear cut case!

[Pradan]

United supporters sure love a quote. You can't have a conversation about Scholes without it being mentioned that Xavi said this, and Zidane said this.

Now it'll be Martial's turn i see.

[Crosby Nick]

United supporters sure love a quote. You can't have a conversation about Scholes without it being mentioned that Xavi said this, and Zidane said this.

Now it'll be Martial's turn i see.

But Pele said Nicky Butt was one of the best players at the World Cup.

[HighSix]

Two broadsheets? Definitely been spoken to by someone trustworthy off the record.

With sports journalism I don't think the paper is important really but the individual with the story. The Sunday Times for example has one of the worst bullshitters around while the Mail has some good ones like the guy who broke the Cardiff story. No idea who wrote this United story though.

[exiledintheUSA]

United supporters sure love a quote. You can't have a conversation about Scholes without it being mentioned that Xavi said this, and Zidane said this.

Now it'll be Martial's turn i see.

In fariness to Zidane he did correctly state the Steven Gerrard "is the very best in the world".

[exiledintheUSA]

No idea who wrote this United story though.

David De Gea.

[HighSix]

David De Gea.

 

[4pool]

Ryan Giggs

[Flaccido Dongingo]

Surely this is a ship that needs steadyed, only one Hodge for the job.

[thelinnen]

We all know Giggs is earmarked for the job eventually. And when it happens it'll be glorious.

[Xxavi]

Arsene Wenger: "We have known about Martial since he was a kid. He is more a winger-type but is an exceptional talent."

Thiago Silva: "I do not know if Anthony Martial is worth €80 million or less, but he really reminds me of Thierry Henry. He has his (Henry’s) technique, his physique, his reading of the game.”

Louis Saha: "In France we call him the next Thierry Henry because he can play left or right, he's got a great ability with the ball, he can take on three, four players with ease, there is no problem."

Eric Cantona: "Martial is France's biggest talent, in three years he'll be worth €100m. Hopefully he scores many goals for United."

Yohan Cabaye: “He is like Thierry Henry. Trust me. He has the same qualities as Thierry."

Paul Pogba: “I call him ‘the young old man’ because he’s 19 and he’s already so mature for his age. He has great ability and a huge amount of potential. He will bring a lot to the French team."

There is no denying he is a good talent, but he is raw and unproven. The question is about the fee, what if he fails? We saw many good talents failing in the past, but this one, if he fails, will cost ManU a lot.

In the past 10-15 years alone, France produced several "next Henry", "next Zidane" and "next Vieira" players including but not limited to Ben Arfa, Nasri, Gourcuff, Cheyrou, Pongolle etc. Amazing youngsters who have proven themselves more like Gotze and Isco are not guaranteed starters for Bayern and Real Madrid either. Just to think about it, Martial cost almost a combined fee of 3 of the big talents Gotze, Isco and Thiago Alcantara...

[Xxavi]

Louis Van Gaal : "It was a ridiculous amount of money, but it's the crazy world we are in.I have not bought Martial for me, I have bought him for the next manager of Manchester United"

With that attitude, and given his madness, I can totally see Van Gaal benching Martial as season progresses. Pressured by his price tag, he will play him at first, but over the course of the season, I won't be surprised if Van Gaal ends up preferring Fellaini

[Hazell]

Arsene Wenger: "We have known about Martial since he was a kid. He is more a winger-type but is an exceptional talent."

Thiago Silva: "I do not know if Anthony Martial is worth €80 million or less, but he really reminds me of Thierry Henry. He has his (Henry’s) technique, his physique, his reading of the game.”

Louis Saha: "In France we call him the next Thierry Henry because he can play left or right, he's got a great ability with the ball, he can take on three, four players with ease, there is no problem."

Eric Cantona: "Martial is France's biggest talent, in three years he'll be worth €100m. Hopefully he scores many goals for United."

Yohan Cabaye: “He is like Thierry Henry. Trust me. He has the same qualities as Thierry."

Paul Pogba: “I call him ‘the young old man’ because he’s 19 and he’s already so mature for his age. He has great ability and a huge amount of potential. He will bring a lot to the French team."

Thomas Sorensen: "When he turns and runs at people he is just about unstoppable. His pace is frightening and at times he reminds me of Thierry Henry. He still has a lot of learning to do because he loses the ball too much but he showed he is a great prospect."

[NealFrom25Yards]

Times - De Gea on the verge of new Manchester United contract

Jorge Mendes arrived for talks at 1PM today. Manchester United will insist on a full commitment and no release clause. De Gea now appears likely to agree to these terms.

This whole thing is just weird. A strange 'transfer' saga from start to finish. I'm not sure what position United are in to insist on 'a full commitment' (Rick Astley negotiating obviously) or no release clause. I'm even less sure why De Gea would agree to it.