Author Topic: Louis Van Gaal was the Manager of Mourinho United (Read 3962270 times)

Les Willis · « **Reply #40 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:25:55 pm »

I imagine that this thread will be amusing, but in a different way to the Moyes thread. Van Gaal is obviously a decent manager - but also a ticking time bomb.

007.lankyguy · « **Reply #41 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:26:02 pm »

Really interesting appointment. He's a great coach is Van Gaal, very precise tactical planning on positioning and different concepts. Ball circulation often to wait for spaces rather than trying to open them up (the latter is what Guardiola prefers to do). Overmars often compained under him that he wouldn't allow him to take defenders on 1v1 but it was because Van Gaal thinks that a lot of 1v1s are actually 1v2s because there is generally either a double-mark or a covering defender behind. If so, then there must be space elsewhere so ball is switched inside and then the team tries to quickly use the space that may have opened up through the ball circulation. Interesting to see how United play tactically under him.

And also he's a very 'interesting' character. Could blow up...

REDdotONtheMAP · « **Reply #42 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:30:05 pm »

..... Waiting for PoP's prediction of this outcome

Statto Red · « **Reply #43 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:31:51 pm »

This has fucked Spurs up as Van Gaal was there no1 target.

Phil M · « **Reply #44 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:32:54 pm »

Quote from: Statto Red on May 19, 2014, 02:31:51 pm

This has fucked Spurs up as Van Gaal was there no1 target.

I'm sure they've known for sometime where he was headed.

mkingdon · « **Reply #45 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:33:21 pm »

Quote from: redmark on May 19, 2014, 02:23:41 pm

Giggs said: "I am thrilled to have the chance to serve as assistant manager. Louis van Gaal is a world-class coach and I know I will learn a lot about coaching from being able to observe and contribute at such close quarters. Manchester United has been a huge part of my life and I'm delighted to be able to continue that relationship in such a key role."

Subtle.

Yep, those cones won't put themselves out will they Giggs-eh?

tommy LFC · « **Reply #46 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:34:30 pm »

How long before Rooney hands in another transfer request? About to find out he's not captain and will surely be behind Van Persie and Mata....

Magz50 · « **Reply #47 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:35:38 pm »

This thread is going to be hilarious next season. Cannot wait!

tommy LFC · « **Reply #48 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:35:50 pm »

A terrible showing from the Dutch with a group stage exit at the world cup would be utterly delicious now...

Cattive Maniere · « **Reply #49 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:36:52 pm »

i wonder what this fella thinks about the appointment

RossoBianchi · « **Reply #50 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:37:47 pm »

lfc_col · « **Reply #51 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:38:03 pm »

When does his banner go up

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #52 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:38:12 pm »

Quote from: tommyLFC on May 19, 2014, 02:35:50 pm

A terrible showing from the Dutch with a group stage exit at the world cup would be utterly delicious now...

Or let them go far and keep him busy for a long time.

He's better than Moyes for sure. They may even finish higher tha Everton this season.

End Product · « **Reply #53 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:38:58 pm »

tommy LFC · « **Reply #54 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:41:39 pm »

redmark · « **Reply #55 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:41:43 pm »

Quote from: mkingdon on May 19, 2014, 02:33:21 pm

Yep, those cones won't put themselves out will they Giggs-eh?

That'll be Butt/Scholes' job, surely

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My point about the 'subtlety' of the 'key role' phrase was that it's unnecessary (and a little exaggerated) to describe your own appointment as Assistant Manager in those terms. Giggs, I think, is referring to himself (in terms the United fans will recognise) as 'manager in waiting'. That's obvious to all of us in how this has been approached, but in the interests of backroom harmony hardly needed spelling out within 10 minutes of the appointments and suggests that not only will that possibility be at the forefront should Van Gaal have a difficult spell, but that Giggs' priorities as assistant manager may be secondary to his own posturing for the job he actually wants. Again, obvious, but I find it a little surprising he's dropped quite so blatant a hint (as I read it) immediately.

mkingdon · « **Reply #56 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:43:34 pm »

Quote from: redmark on May 19, 2014, 02:41:43 pm

That'll be Butt/Scholes' job, surely .

My point about the 'subtlety' of the 'key role' phrase was that it's unnecessary (and a little exaggerated) to describe your own appointment as Assistant Manager in those terms. Giggs, I think, is referring to himself (in terms the United fans will recognise) as 'manager in waiting'. That's obvious to all of us in how this has been approached, but in the interests of backroom harmony hardly needed spelling out within 10 minutes of the appointments and suggests that not only will that possibility be at the forefront should Van Gaal have a difficult spell, but that Giggs' priorities as assistant manager may be secondary to his own posturing for the job he actually wants. Again, obvious, but I find it a little surprising he's dropped quite so blatant a hint (as I read it).

I'd agree, and should they not fly out of the blocks next season, the clamour for some sort of Class of 92 management team mash up will be growing before xmas.

Ray K · « **Reply #57 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:44:21 pm »

I'm disappointed I have to say. I was hoping he'd disembowel Sky's Garry Cotterill in his first press conference.

Actually, there hasn't been a press conference yet. So, fingers crossed...

rocco · « **Reply #58 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:46:03 pm »

Can see him getting them back in the top 4 straight away or it will go totally fcuked up

OldBloke · « **Reply #59 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:50:06 pm »

Quote

I'm looking to see who fits in my system - 4-3-3 - whether it is a young or old player.

Doesn't sound very adaptable

I think if he tries to play the same system every week in the Premier league he will come badly unstuck!

surfer. Fuck you generator. · « **Reply #60 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:50:58 pm »

Appointing Giggs is just unnecessarily cluttering up his job. Perhaps it's something the club negotiated into his working brief - 'mentor' Giggs and his chums. Does anyone really see Van Gaal picking him if he had been given free reign to choose.

Nah...

myliverbird · « **Reply #61 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:52:28 pm »

surfer. Fuck you generator. · « **Reply #62 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:52:30 pm »

Kagawa, Mata and Janujizz have been caught holding hands and singing happy songs.

Hazell · « **Reply #63 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:52:53 pm »

Ferguson:

"We unanimously agreed on Louis Van Gaal," said Ferguson.

"Louis is a man of great integrity with a strong work ethic. I've admired his work for a long time and approached him as far back as 1998 to discuss the position of assistant manager here."

"There is no question he has all the qualities we expect of a manager at this club."

L666KOP · « **Reply #64 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:54:57 pm »

We should have a sweep to see which player gets to see his Knackers first ?

Skeeve · « **Reply #65 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:55:30 pm »

Quote from: eurolines on May 19, 2014, 02:14:32 pm

Rooney won't be a fan, but that's arguably beneficial for United rather than a bad thing.

When you consider that the alternative is an aging and injury-prone RVP, you can hardly say it is a clear benefit.

HighSix · « **Reply #66 on:** May 19, 2014, 02:58:13 pm »

Quote from: eurolines on May 19, 2014, 02:14:32 pm

Rooney won't be a fan, but that's arguably beneficial for United rather than a bad thing.

I think Rooney will just be delighted to not be working under a manager who he fell out with or one the sued him!

thelinnen · « **Reply #67 on:** May 19, 2014, 03:00:24 pm »

4pool · « **Reply #68 on:** May 19, 2014, 03:01:35 pm »

If Man Utd think challenging for 4th place with Van Gaal means 5th or 6th this season..they have their man.

cloggypop · « **Reply #69 on:** May 19, 2014, 03:07:20 pm »

Quote from: OldBloke on May 19, 2014, 02:50:06 pm

Doesn't sound very adaptable
I think if he tries to play the same system every week in the Premier league he will come badly unstuck!

He has just switched to a 5-3-2 with the Dutch team. This is probably due to the Dutch defense being shite though.

Probably 5-3-2 at United then...

Cantona · « **Reply #70 on:** May 19, 2014, 03:08:23 pm »

Great news, i'm glad it's finally been confirmed.

He's authoritative, likes attacking football, a great coach and a winner.
Why is everybody so sure he will be a disaster?

Hazell · « **Reply #71 on:** May 19, 2014, 03:09:08 pm »

Quote from: cloggypop on May 19, 2014, 03:07:20 pm

He has just switched to a 5-3-2 with the Dutch team. This is probably due to the Dutch defense being shite though.

Probably 5-3-2 at United then...

Their midfield is shite too though.

Hazell · « **Reply #72 on:** May 19, 2014, 03:10:06 pm »

Quote from: Cantona on May 19, 2014, 03:08:23 pm

Great news, i'm glad it's finally been confirmed.

He's authoritative, likes attacking football, a great coach and a winner.
Why is everybody so sure he will be a disaster?

Yes! I hope this prediction turns out like the ones you've made before

sparrowred · « **Reply #73 on:** May 19, 2014, 03:10:07 pm »

How much is a shortened preseason going to affect them? New players, new style.

steveeastend · « **Reply #74 on:** May 19, 2014, 03:10:14 pm »

It will be the same as everywhere van Gaal has been...

He will be building a foundation if they let him which the club will benefit for years to come, similar to Barca, Bayern, Ajax etc. In the meantime he will insult very person getting in his way possible within the club and annoy the shite out of everyone.

Pidalow · « **Reply #75 on:** May 19, 2014, 03:10:41 pm »

Obviously hes a good manager, but hes a nutcase. Hopefully it wont work out like it didnt with Moyes.

Sat1 · « **Reply #76 on:** May 19, 2014, 03:11:50 pm »

Top class manager who'll attract some top players even without CL footie

cloggypop · « **Reply #77 on:** May 19, 2014, 03:12:27 pm »

Quote from: Hazell on May 19, 2014, 03:09:08 pm

Their midfield is shite too though.

He will probably be in for Strootman unfortunately.

No Appreciation of Liverpool Opposition · « **Reply #78 on:** May 19, 2014, 03:12:44 pm »

be interesting to see who he signs.

vicgill · « **Reply #79 on:** May 19, 2014, 03:12:47 pm »

Quote from: Cracking Left Foot on May 19, 2014, 02:19:42 pm

This is going to be great fun. He's a great coach, and they'll definitely challenge for top 4, but he's a fruitloop. He'll have knocked Rooney out by September, shown Cleverly his testicles by Christmas and headbutted 3 journalists before the season's out.

Oh fuck is that all ?