Topic: Fulham FC v Liverpool FC - 12th February - k/o: ZEBRA CROSSING WEBCAM IS ON

[PhaseOfPlay]

And you know that for a fact? Despite the posts made in here by numerous London based Liverpool fans, pointing out that it might not be as easy as it looks?

In any case they have until tomorrow at 3pm to figure it out - lets not rush to judgment, we wouldn't want to be hypocrites now would we?

The Premier League rules are fairly clear about what is allowed in order to postpone a game. It also stipulates that the postponing club make all reasonable efforts to get the game to go ahead.

Now, if hiring buses to get their own staff to work on a day where they play an in-form team who have the second most lethal attack in the league is not "reasonable effort", then I don't know what is.

[PhaseOfPlay]

A premier league game with 25,000 fans, several thousand staff, hundreds of Police, and no doubt several hundred of other anscilary hangers on.  And you think it's organised from scratch at a moments notice?


Shitehawks Fulham may be, but changing venues and reorganising a game takes weeks at the least, and several weeks at that. Not 48 hours.   

They've had more than 48 hours notice though

[RGF30]

Shall we all just still go and protest outside the ground? - who's with me!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

Don't be daft, there's a tube strike, how you going to get there.

[Mad Max]

Poster called Youngsbitter calls it correct in that page

Is he a blue?

[Zoomers]

I hope the club actually speaks loud in this situation. State all the ways to fix this problem and move on.

[west_london_red]

And you know that for a fact? Despite the posts made in here by numerous London based Liverpool fans, pointing out that it might not be as easy as it looks?

In any case they have until tomorrow at 3pm to figure it out - lets not rush to judgment, we wouldn't want to be hypocrites now would we?

The strikes have been known about for weeks.

Tube services are still running, a reduced service, it is not a total closure.

London Overground, Southwest Trains and London Buses are still running.

Arsenal are playing in London at the same time and have more then twice the capacity yet they don't seem to be having any trouble.

[Noelle]

Seriously a giant raft of shit and I hope we don't dare let them even try to get away with this fuckery. Call their bluff. Cry bullshit and take them to task with the FA. I don't give a shit. But if they actually go through with it and are allowed to get away with it, goddamn. We might as well just start concocting tenuous excuses to wiggle our way out of rough games next season until we're in the mood for it.

[Buck Pete]

Anyone taking this lightly with a don't give a fuck attitude obviously hasn't got a match ticket, booked days off work or booked trains and a hotel room.  In my case all 4 of these fucking scenarios apply.

Not trying to be super fan or anything but if your not scheduled to go the game then you don't understand the anger some of us have here.

Small time fucking Blerts are owned by a Billionaire businessman for christs sake.  Either hire some buses for your stewards or admit your a bunch of shady cheating c*nts.

[BobPaisley3]

Sorry if this has already been answered, but realistically what would happen if Fulham want to postpone it and we refuse?

FA and police get involved presumably.

[End Product]

Sorry if this has already been answered, but realistically what would happen if Fulham want to postpone it and we refuse?

The game gets cancelled and we slaughter Ayre.

[Big Red Richie]

They've had more than 48 hours notice though

I'm led to believe they've had a bout a weeks notice. Is that correct?

Even thats pushing it to change a venue, given the ticketing and segregation issues.


* I was responding to the issue of changing venue, not Fulham sidestepping the fixture.

[MiserableP15]

And you know that for a fact? Despite the posts made in here by numerous London based Liverpool fans, pointing out that it might not be as easy as it looks?

In any case they have until tomorrow at 3pm to figure it out - lets not rush to judgment, we wouldn't want to be hypocrites now would we?

You think the world stops working in London because there's a tube strike?

Is this an OOT thing?

:p

[killer-heels]

FA and police get involved presumably.

Didnt they say they have consulted so far with the police?

[west_london_red]

I hope the club actually speaks loud in this situation. State all the ways to fix this problem and move on.

Based on the few lines from the club in the Echo we will bend over

[Tonyh]

How did the staff make it in for the game against Sheffield United then?

Was only a 10,000 crowd and the game had kicked off before the strike had even started. The roads and overground trains would have been much quieter after 10pm when people were making their way home.

[robertobaggio37]

Surely there's something we could do about this? Seems incredibly opportunistic from Fulham, we can surely fight it?

I fucking hope so. Club should do everything to make it happen. Fucking Fulham, they can't get away with it.

[TALBERT]

Friendsoffulham forum what a bunch of c*nts

Enjoy playing in the Championship

I hope you do a Wolves and get relegated twice.

Michael Jackson statue fucking hell

[west_london_red]

I'm led to believe they've had a bout a weeks notice. Is that correct?

Even thats pushing it to change a venue, given the ticketing and segregation issues.

The strikes have been known for at least 2 weeks and it wouldn't surprise me if it's been a month

[BobPaisley3]

Didnt they say they have consulted so far with the police?

Yeah, fulham can't just postpone it cos Steve Sidwell is tired. They'll put forward a case for the tube strike being an issue and 'safety' will be the key. Police will back them up and the fa have the final say. No way they will go against the home teams and the law.

[PhaseOfPlay]

I'm led to believe they've had a bout a weeks notice. Is that correct?

Even thats pushing it to change a venue, given the ticketing and segregation issues.

Seems like they've had at least a month?

[TALBERT]

Liverpool FC will be awarded 3 points at 3.00pm tomorrow as Fulham FC forfeit the match.

If anything Fulham should be docked 10 points for even conceiving the idea the shady c*nts

[Number 7]

You would think that if they've made every effort for the game to go ahead they need to come up with a reasonable explanation of why their staff can't get to the ground a few hours ahead of time using buses.

What rationale are they going to give for that?

[RGF30]

Someone should throw eggs on that Michael Jackson statue. 

That statue would catch your eggs and massage them erotically.

[SlowRap]

Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming that Premier League Stewards go through the same training/certification/background checks more or less for each club?

If so, Liverpool should offer to bus down as many of the Anfield staff as is needed.

Essentially, we should call their bluff.

Can we have a RAWK minibus full of volunteers? Get one of the mods to drive it

[Number 7]

I fucking hope so. Club should do everything to make it happen. Fucking Fulham, they can't get away with it.

They won't take it lightly. There are fans that have made arrangements months beforehand. They won't let it slide easily.

[BobPaisley3]

Liverpool FC will be awarded 3 points at 3.00pm tomorrow as Fulham FC forfeit the match.

If anything Fulham should be docked 10 points for even conceiving the idea the shady c*nts

All things even out. We forfeited against fulham in 2005 according to Colin Wanker.

[PhaseOfPlay]

Yeah, fulham can't just postpone it cos Steve Sidwell is tired. They'll put forward a case for the tube strike being an issue and 'safety' will be the key. Police will back them up and the fa have the final say. No way they will go against the home teams and the law.

It's not really a matter of them going against the law though. It's what happens next.

If Fulham can be shown to have not made a reasonable effort to get the game to go ahead (and providing alternate transport would surely constitute "reasonable effort", as well as providing travel subsidies, or importing more local stewards, or coordinating with Liverpool to use Liverpool stewards - if possible), then they stand to forfeit the game, and Liverpool get 3 points and probably 3 goals in lieu of the game - rather than the game being replayed at another date.

There is nothing about this that says "we had no other option" when looked at reasonably.

So the issue is not "will the game go ahead?" (and I do appreciate that a LOT of people have organised their weekly schedule and finances around the game going ahead - and they should be compensated for that) from the league's perspective - it's whether or not Fulham contravened Rule L.2, and what the consequence of that is.

[Redondos Barber]

I hope the club actually speaks loud in this situation. State all the ways to fix this problem and move on.

Would there be a chance the club would'nt contest Fulham's decision to cancel, due to sensitivity over the ground safety angle and their fear over how that would be portrayed in the media etc.?

[Snail]

That statue would catch your eggs and massage them erotically.

Allegedly.

[Snail]

Would there be a chance the club would'nt contest Fulham's decision to cancel, due to sensitivity over the ground safety angle and their fear over how that would be portrayed in the media etc.?

The cynic in me says that this is exactly why Fulham are playing the "health and safety" card.

[BobPaisley3]

It's not really a matter of them going against the law though. It's what happens next.

If Fulham can be shown to have not made a reasonable effort to get the game to go ahead (and providing alternate transport would surely constitute "reasonable effort", as well as providing travel subsidies, or importing more local stewards, or coordinating with Liverpool to use Liverpool stewards - if possible), then they stand to forfeit the game, and Liverpool get 3 points and probably 3 goals in lieu of the game - rather than the game being replayed at another date.

There is nothing about this that says "we had no other option" when looked at reasonably.

So the issue is not "will the game go ahead?" (and I do appreciate that a LOT of people have organised their weekly schedule and finances around the game going ahead - and they should be compensated for that) from the league's perspective - it's whether or not Fulham contravened Rule L.2, and what the consequence of that is.

I see what you're saying, but call me cynical, there is no way we will get the three points given to us without playing. FA rules are there to be manipulated.

[rickardinho1]

So they're able to bring in staff to tear down the horrible Michael Jackson statue but they can't get enough staff there for a game...  this football club has really gone downhill in a hurry. relegation beckons

[PhaseOfPlay]

I see what you're saying, but call me cynical, there is no way we will get the three points given to us without playing. FA rules are there to be manipulated.

It's the Premier League rules though. And they've already been threatened with legal action this week by one club. Imagine how things will heat up if they were threatened with action by 3 or 4 clubs - especially if one of those 3 or 4 tries to have their own game cancelled for a similarly tenuous reason

[End Product]

If you really want to a conspriracy theory RAWK, the secuirity company that sorts Fulham stewards also does West Ham and QPR and would be able to offer extra staff, and their head office is...

 in the Old Trafford car park.     

[Snail]

It's the Premier League rules though. And they've already been threatened with legal action this week by one club. Imagine how things will heat up if they were threatened with action by 3 or 4 clubs - especially if one of those 3 or 4 tries to have their own game cancelled for a similarly tenuous reason

Will be interesting to see how the likes of West Ham might react to this.

[Snail]

If you really want to a conspriracy theory RAWK, the secuirity company that sorts Fulham stewards also does West Ham and QPR and would be able to offer extra staff, and their head office is...

 in the Old Trafford car park.   

[Buck Pete]

Well if it does get cancelled then Shahid Kahn can dock Kostas Mitroglu 30 seconds wages and pay me my couple of hundred quid I stand to lose because of it.

[TALBERT]

Why the fuck did Konstantinos Mitroglou leave Olympiacos for Fulham?

He's 25 in his prime

Olympiacos top goal scorer

Olympiacos are top of the league and unbeaten, 22 W, 2 D, 0 L

About to play Man Utd in the Champions League



But he's moved to Fulham on a 4 year deal to play 4 years in the Championship or get loaned to Newcastle.

Fulham have 3 different managers all interchangeable when Rene gets sacked

The Greek Leagues not a bad league

Surely playing Champions League football against PSG, Benfica and Man Utd is better than away to Doncaster

[buzzing]

FFS. Was really looking forward to this. Esp as they would be tired after Utd match

[BobPaisley3]

It's the Premier League rules though. And they've already been threatened with legal action this week by one club. Imagine how things will heat up if they were threatened with action by 3 or 4 clubs - especially if one of those 3 or 4 tries to have their own game cancelled for a similarly tenuous reason

The point about the other clubs is interesting, fulham having extra time to get players fit etc. The rules though? As I say they can be twisted to suit an agenda. The only way we get he points is by playing whether it be Wednesday or march sometime.