Topic: DC Mega Topic, it's not the MCU

[CrasherKid79]

Wonder what Warner Bros will do if this flops critically.

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I would want them to get a director who understands the characters (Nolan, Miller .... fuck it give Mad Mel a shot!). Probably they will do nothing though as it will make a shit tonne of money regardless.

Think they will continue in the Snyderverse until there’s a Batman and Robin level flop.

If it’s shit, people need to vote with their wallets.

[Kopite Tom]

Man of Steel was my first introduction to Superman & I enjoyed it, yet to give it a second viewing though. Went to see BvS at the cinema & while it was definitely a disapointment I enjoyed certain parts, the ultimate edition is a touch better but not enough to save the movie.
Suicude Squad was average, not as bad as some reviews made out but nothing stood out enough that makes me ever want to see it again.
Only managed to watch WW when the blu ray was released, was a good solid superhero film & definitely left me wanting a sequel.

I have hope for Justice League but I've always been the optimistic type, the JL being on screen for the first time together is a huge moment in superhero history & I really hope Synder/Joss & the team have done a good job.

[my usenme changed?]

I'm looking forward to it! I enjoyed MoS and BvS (Ultimate Edition is much better than the cinematic version). Haven't got round to WW yet but I will in the next few days or so.

SS was poor, but adds little to the DCCU anyway in terms of storylines, so not added. Just don't start me on that version of Joker. 

So bring it on, can't wait!!

[redan]

I'm a big DC fan and I even enjoyed BvS (Ultimate Edition), MoS and loved WW but I feel so flat about this film,

I've seen hardly any promo for a film of this stature (this is a JL film for crying out loud), me and my mate brought our Last Jedi tickets a few days back and forgot this was even out, he's a bigger DC fan than me!!

[tubby]

Even though the DC movies haven't really hit the mark yet it's still the Justice League on the big screen with a few already established characters in the universe.  So I'm quietly hyped for it.

[lionel_messias]

Watched Superman 2 with my 4 year old recently. We both loved it.

Man of Steel is boring and trashy, overlong and overserious.

There is room for a compromise between the two as clearly the Richard Donner Superman films look old hat next to Marvel pixellated, ramading dong movies.

[Macphisto80]

Watched Superman 2 with my 4 year old recently. We both loved it.

Man of Steel is boring and trashy, overlong and overserious.

There is room for a compromise between the two as clearly the Richard Donner Superman films look old hat next to Marvel pixellated, ramading dong movies.

It's more of a cultural thing now, lionel. People seem to want serious, dark, gritty, loud explosions and gruff voices in their camp super hero characters. For Batman that's fine; but making a fun, colourful film like the Reeves Superman film just wouldn't go down well with today's audiences. They'd enter the theatre, probably laugh for a bit, then get angry, throw some popcorn at the screen and then demand their money back. Someone pointing to the sky and exclaiming "is it a bird, is it a plane? No. It's Superman!" excitedly just seems like a billion miles apart from what Superman is now. Flying about saving cats from trees, saving damsels in distress, and kids in a school bus that's about to fall over a bridge? Who wants that? Kids today want to see him battling ISIS over in Iraq and Syria, and then flying to North Korea to shove and American flag up Kim Jong-Un's hole. As for the cat, Superman would probably punt it into space and pimp slap an old granny for protesting.

[Something Worse]

In the last movie he sacrificed himself for humanity and cured Batman of being a total psycho! That's a positive step!

[sambhi92]

Justice League reviews not coming till day before film is out. Doesn't look like a good sign that the film will be good.

Hopefully that isn't the case, would hate to see the DCU's main film tank

[CrasherKid79]

Justice League reviews not coming till day before film is out. Doesn't look like a good sign that the film will be good.

Hopefully that isn't the case, would hate to see the DCU's main film tank

It will be like the Defenders series was on Netflix in my opinion. I just wanted to see Jessica Jones and Daredevil yet the others dragged it down. Hope I’m wrong.

[Something Worse]

People who have seen it on twitter say it's not perfect (plot/villain/CG issues) but the team is a lot of fun and a lot of asskicking happens.

I'll take it.

[CrasherKid79]

People who have seen it on twitter say it's not perfect (plot/villain/CG issues) but the team is a lot of fun and a lot of asskicking happens.

I'll take it.

That would be another step in the right direction.

[sambhi92]

People who have seen it on twitter say it's not perfect (plot/villain/CG issues) but the team is a lot of fun and a lot of asskicking happens.

I'll take it.

Hopefully not the same people who said BvS was great...

[my usenme changed?]

People who have seen it on twitter say it's not perfect (plot/villain/CG issues) but the team is a lot of fun and a lot of asskicking happens.

I'll take it.

Me too. But some people will crap all over it regardless. I dont care though..... I cant wait!

[El Lobo]

Hopefully not the same people who said BvS was great...

Eurgh, did anyone in the history of mankind say that?!?!

[Something Worse]

Eurgh, did anyone in the history of mankind say that?!?!

It's flawed but I really liked it. Same as TDKR.

[Schmidt]

It's flawed but I really liked it. Same as TDKR.

I only watched the ultimate version but I enjoyed it too. The Martha stuff was daft but then a lot of superhero movies have daft things in them.

[El Lobo]

It's flawed but I really liked it. Same as TDKR.

Yeah TDKR I thought was good, wasn't sure why that got bad reviews. Bane was excellent

[Something Worse]

Yeah TDKR I thought was good, wasn't sure why that got bad reviews. Bane was excellent

You can pick holes in most of that movie (I especially hate long goodbyes while a bomb is counting down) but like you, I just like Bane haha

[lionel_messias]

It's more of a cultural thing now, lionel. People seem to want serious, dark, gritty, loud explosions and gruff voices in their camp super hero characters. For Batman that's fine; but making a fun, colourful film like the Reeves Superman film just wouldn't go down well with today's audiences. They'd enter the theatre, probably laugh for a bit, then get angry, throw some popcorn at the screen and then demand their money back. Someone pointing to the sky and exclaiming "is it a bird, is it a plane? No. It's Superman!" excitedly just seems like a billion miles apart from what Superman is now. Flying about saving cats from trees, saving damsels in distress, and kids in a school bus that's about to fall over a bridge? Who wants that? Kids today want to see him battling ISIS over in Iraq and Syria, and then flying to North Korea to shove and American flag up Kim Jong-Un's hole. As for the cat, Superman would probably punt it into space and pimp slap an old granny for protesting.

Haha, yes indeed. There is probably a compromise somewhere in the middle. I seem to remember Captain America being quite good fun without too much blood letting or miserabalist shite.

[lionel_messias]

Hopefully not the same people who said BvS was great...

It would be unlikely those people are allowed out in the community, to be fair.

[Beav]

Reviews are out and it seems... mixed.

The more positive ones are saying the characters and their interactions as a group are largely fun, with a lighter tone making it a much more enjoyable watch. They mention that overall its fun, light popcorn entertainment, but its very flawed and rushed.

The negatives vary from saying the fun that is there to be had cant save it from being a noisy mess, to others really focusing in on how disposable it feels, how terrible the villain is and how tonally disjointed it feels (unsurprising given the production).

Rotten tomatoes are going to "announce" the score on some facebook show their doing because of course the online film sphere can always find new ways to be fucking awful, but looking at the reviews I imagine itll end up sitting around 60%, which for DC would be almost a win at this point. From the general consensus, I think this is a film that people will vary a lot on, depending on how far those good aspects go with you.

[Something Worse]

Reviews are out and it seems... mixed.

The more positive ones are saying the characters and their interactions as a group are largely fun, with a lighter tone making it a much more enjoyable watch. They mention that overall its fun, light popcorn entertainment, but its very flawed and rushed.

The negatives vary from saying the fun that is there to be had cant save it from being a noisy mess, to others really focusing in on how disposable it feels, how terrible the villain is and how tonally disjointed it feels (unsurprising given the production).

Rotten tomatoes are going to "announce" the score on some facebook show their doing because of course the online film sphere can always find new ways to be fucking awful, but looking at the reviews I imagine itll end up sitting around 60%, which for DC would be almost a win at this point. From the general consensus, I think this is a film that people will vary a lot on, depending on how far those good aspects go with you.

I almost feel like I'm going to hate it.

[Blinis]

French reviews are terrible.

[lionel_messias]

Read a good review on The Verge website, it was quite a long read. Basically the film is no surprise:

A mish-mash as it was part made by Zach Schnyder and finished off by Josh Whedon.

Still not watching it.

[BER]

Reviews are out and it seems... mixed.

The more positive ones are saying the characters and their interactions as a group are largely fun, with a lighter tone making it a much more enjoyable watch. They mention that overall its fun, light popcorn entertainment, but its very flawed and rushed.

The negatives vary from saying the fun that is there to be had cant save it from being a noisy mess, to others really focusing in on how disposable it feels, how terrible the villain is and how tonally disjointed it feels (unsurprising given the production).

Sounds like they are getting closer to the Marvel formula.

[puroresu_kid]

I love DC and it annoys me how the films are turning out.

[Something Worse]

Sounds like they are getting closer to the Marvel formula.

I almost feel like I'm going to hate it.

[Trada]

 Rotten Tomatoes‏Verified account @RottenTomatoes
14s15 seconds ago

#JusticeLeague is currently at 40% on the Tomato meter, with 134 reviews:

[Macphisto80]

Rotten Tomatoes‏Verified account @RottenTomatoes
14s15 seconds ago

#JusticeLeague is currently at 40% on the Tomato meter, with 134 reviews:

Now at an even lower 36%  https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/justice_league_2017/



Gotta hurt.

[Something Worse]

There's something up with these reviews. I just saw it and it's a decent enough movie. I'm sure holes can be picked in it but in no way is it worse than say Age of Ultron.

[Red Viper]

There's something up with these reviews. I just saw it and it's a decent enough movie. I'm sure holes can be picked in it but in no way is it worse than say Age of Ultron.

Not seen it yet but based on the image of

Spoiler

Henry Cavill's face after they CGI-ed his moustache out (YES that is a thing they did!)

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I think I can safely say that it is far worse than Age of Ultron.

[nick_8589]

There's something up with these reviews. I just saw it and it's a decent enough movie. I'm sure holes can be picked in it but in no way is it worse than say Age of Ultron.

🙄 Fishing surely?? It’s a total mess, as per really for DC, a million different irons in the fire, no overarching creative control and it shows.

[El Lobo]

I wouldn't take those review sites too seriously, didn't they have the recent Ghostbusters pretty high (comparatively for what utter shite it was anyway)?

The best comment being 'its not worse than Age of Ultron' doesn't make it sound great through, since that was pretty average at the time and hasn't aged particularly well in the two and a half years since

[Something Worse]

I wouldn't take those review sites too seriously, didn't they have the recent Ghostbusters pretty high (comparatively for what utter shite it was anyway)?

The best comment being 'its not worse than Age of Ultron' doesn't make it sound great through, since that was pretty average at the time and hasn't aged particularly well in the two and a half years since

Age of Ultron is 75% on there though, which is roughly double the score of JL. That's my point.

🙄 Fishing surely?? It’s a total mess, as per really for DC, a million different irons in the fire, no overarching creative control and it shows.

You'll have to be more specific.

[tubby]

Age of Ultron is 75% on there though, which is roughly double the score of JL. That's my point.

Think a lot of that will be because people like the characters, even if the movie wasn't all that.  There's a lot of goodwill towards Marvel stuff because there's a whole universe people have grown familiar with - their formula works and people feel comfy watching RDJ do his Iron Man shtick.

[Something Worse]

Think a lot of that will be because people like the characters, even if the movie wasn't all that.  There's a lot of goodwill towards Marvel stuff because there's a whole universe people have grown familiar with - their formula works and people feel comfy watching RDJ do his Iron Man shtick.

I agree that's probably why, but it basically means reviewers are simple-minded idiots incapable of seeing through how good RDJ, Evans and Hemsworth are and seeing what they're doing. Thor 2 has 66% and that was an outright bad movie.

I'm not going to argue Justice League is a masterpiece, but it is a perfectly fine movie. They heard the criticisms of BVS and adjusted, but they're not going to ever be Disney's Marvel's The Avengers, with their bright colors and cookie cutter movies. It feels like people can't deal with that. They'd be totally fucked if any of the good comic book movies like Blade (1 or 2), Nolan's Batmans, even the original X Men (1 or 2) came out now, because they don't fit the mold either.

[AndyMuller]

I agree that's probably why, but it basically means reviewers are simple-minded idiots incapable of seeing through how good RDJ, Evans and Hemsworth are and seeing what they're doing. Thor 2 has 66% and that was an outright bad movie.

I'm not going to argue Justice League is a masterpiece, but it is a perfectly fine movie. They heard the criticisms of BVS and adjusted, but they're not going to ever be Disney's Marvel's The Avengers, with their bright colors and cookie cutter movies. It feels like people can't deal with that. They'd be totally fucked if any of the good comic book movies like Blade (1 or 2), Nolan's Batmans, even the original X Men (1 or 2) came out now, because they don't fit the mold either.

Both Logan and Deadpool didn’t fit the mold either.

[Something Worse]

Both Logan and Deadpool didn’t fit the mold either.

Both were genuinely good movies irrespective of genre (in fact they almost don't fit inside the superhero genre), which isn't really my point. I'm saying your average vanilla Marvel movie seems to have a floor of 66% on RT, meaning 2/3 of all reviewers like any Marvel movie no matter how bad. BVS and JL are better than Thor 2 at the very least, and both are horribly reviewed.

[Macphisto80]

Take the overall score with a pinch of salt. All it is are reviews that have either narrowly fallen above or below the average of what is regarded as fresh. The damning thing for JL is that most reviews that gave it a fresh tomato would almost be considered negative to very average at best in most cases. It sounds like a steaming hunk of shit, and it looked it just going off of early trailers.