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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3600 on: February 24, 2018, 06:47:56 pm »
Today marks the 60 day mark for Infinity war

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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3601 on: February 24, 2018, 07:44:55 pm »
Today marks the 60 day mark for Infinity war

"The sequel to the greatest movie ever, Black Panther"
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3602 on: February 24, 2018, 08:12:32 pm »
"The sequel to the greatest movie ever, Black Panther"

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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3603 on: February 24, 2018, 08:49:50 pm »
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3604 on: February 24, 2018, 09:50:24 pm »


Objectively the greatest movie ever made, no need to be sad. You won!
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3605 on: February 25, 2018, 07:17:25 am »
Objectively the greatest movie ever made, no need to be sad. You won!

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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3606 on: February 25, 2018, 10:31:08 am »
Went to see Black Panther yesterday and thought it was a bit Meh overall. Thought the villain was quite good but would have like to have seen a bit more of his history. Never really engaged with any of the other main characters at all, especially Bilbo, who I thought was ridiculous. All the action scenes seemed to dark and too fast to appreciate as well.

Not great, not awful, just left me feeling a bit not arsed about it.
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3607 on: February 25, 2018, 10:41:55 am »
Went to see Black Panther yesterday and thought it was a bit Meh overall. Thought the villain was quite good but would have like to have seen a bit more of his history. Never really engaged with any of the other main characters at all, especially Bilbo, who I thought was ridiculous. All the action scenes seemed to dark and too fast to appreciate as well.

Not great, not awful, just left me feeling a bit not arsed about it.

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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3608 on: February 25, 2018, 04:44:51 pm »


Do you post "shat on" after every Lineker tweet too?
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3609 on: February 25, 2018, 06:29:36 pm »
Racist.

For your information I'll have you know that some of my best friends are panthers. :-)
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3610 on: February 25, 2018, 06:48:16 pm »
My cousin was the stunt double for Chris Hemsworth in Thor.Was the young Bruce Wayne in Batman in the scene in the well.Been in loads

You can see why they hired him,,as theyre identical in size(hes the one in middle)




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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3611 on: February 25, 2018, 08:23:47 pm »
Do you post "shat on" after every Lineker tweet too?

Luckily, I don’t ‘understand that reference’ or you’d have been Marvel giffed
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3612 on: February 25, 2018, 08:36:12 pm »
Luckily, I don’t ‘understand that reference’ or you’d have been Marvel giffed

I'm saying you have the same sense of humor as a twitter banter account, only a little less imaginative
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3613 on: February 25, 2018, 11:35:59 pm »
Luckily, I don’t ‘understand that reference’ or you’d have been Marvel giffed

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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3614 on: February 27, 2018, 03:12:56 pm »
The Marvel Cinematic Universe has now grossed over $14 Billion

Most probably $15-16 Billion in the next 3-6 months.

Thats an insane amount of money. Not bad returns for Disney after buying Marvel films for $4 Billion

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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3615 on: February 27, 2018, 03:23:59 pm »
The Marvel Cinematic Universe has now grossed over $14 Billion

Most probably $15-16 Billion in the next 3-6 months.

Thats an insane amount of money. Not bad returns for Disney after buying Marvel films for $4 Billion

I bet Fox's profit on the X-Men is even more impressive. Reportedly the original deal cost them $2.6m.
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3616 on: February 27, 2018, 03:42:08 pm »
Here's the actual chart. Of course it ignores inflation and grosses per film...

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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3617 on: February 27, 2018, 04:52:23 pm »
I bet Fox's profit on the X-Men is even more impressive. Reportedly the original deal cost them $2.6m.

Please stop to laugh at the Sony execs who TURNED DOWN rights for the entire MCU for a reported $28 million in 1998. They must be in hiding somewhere now, or in asylums.
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3618 on: February 27, 2018, 04:58:40 pm »
Please stop to laugh at the Sony execs who TURNED DOWN rights for the entire MCU for a reported $28 million in 1998. They must be in hiding somewhere now, or in asylums.

No way does the MCU work as well in 98ish under Sony as it did ten years later under Disney. I wouldn't call that a missed opportunity as much as something working out best for all parties.
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3619 on: February 27, 2018, 06:13:47 pm »
Here's the actual chart. Of course it ignores inflation and grosses per film...


And shooting budgets. If you gross $1bn and your movie costs $1.01bn to shoot, you're fucked.
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3620 on: February 27, 2018, 06:15:17 pm »
And shooting budgets. If you gross $1bn and your movie costs $1.01bn to shoot, you're fucked.
It's worse than that, Justice League didn't get close to a billion.
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3621 on: February 27, 2018, 06:16:49 pm »
It's worse than that, Justice League didn't get close to a billion.

No doubt they will release an extra boring extended edition on DVD to try and claw some of that back.
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3622 on: February 27, 2018, 06:34:11 pm »
Oh yeeehhhh forgot they did a Justice League movie! Wasn't there some thing about a CGI moustache? Wouldn't mind that being a bluray extra.

Got Thor Ragnarok last night, excellent cheesy superhero spectacular.
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3623 on: February 27, 2018, 10:04:29 pm »
Also watched Thor: Ragnorok last night. Was brilliant. Straight up comedy compared to any other MCU movie. Best so far for me! Admittedly havent seen Spidey, Civil War, or Black Panther though.
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3624 on: February 28, 2018, 04:32:31 am »
Oh yeeehhhh forgot they did a Justice League movie! Wasn't there some thing about a CGI moustache? Wouldn't mind that being a bluray extra.

Got Thor Ragnarok last night, excellent cheesy superhero spectacular.

I watched it yesterday too, but I thought it was too terrible to enjoy, like the cheese had gone off  ;D While I was watching, I kept thinking "This is worse than fucking 'Ishtar.'"
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3625 on: February 28, 2018, 12:03:03 pm »
Saw Black Panther last night.

Enjoyed it, thought it was a good film. Not blown away by it. Suffered a bit from OriginStory-itis. Actually established the world of Wakanda rather brilliantly, look and feel was amazing, and the cultural background, references to actual history were really well done. Colonialism, taking in refugees etc

Main story was just a bit meh. Look for a guy, find a guy, have two "Challenges".

Interesting I thought that Black Panther is the first hero who is actually a 'title' which gets passed down between different individuals. In the story T'Challa inherits the title, which can be passed on when it's time to reboot.

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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3626 on: February 28, 2018, 03:15:41 pm »
I watched it yesterday too, but I thought it was too terrible to enjoy, like the cheese had gone off  ;D While I was watching, I kept thinking "This is worse than fucking 'Ishtar.'"

I watched it recently too, did feel like they were trying to copy Marvel's Avengers and even the bits of humour weren't that funny. Wonder Woman was great though!
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3627 on: February 28, 2018, 09:55:44 pm »


Interesting I thought that Black Panther is the first hero who is actually a 'title' which gets passed down between different individuals. In the story T'Challa inherits the title, which can be passed on when it's time to reboot.


Trying to think of what other comic book character has that trait. Green Lantern? Turok (which seriously needs its own proper live action film because its got dinosaurs and aliens in it, and as we know, both can be great fun.) Not sure who else. Maybe that other shite character who Black Panther reminds me of for some reason. Billy Zane.

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« Reply #3628 on: February 28, 2018, 10:00:45 pm »
Trying to think of what other comic book character has that trait. Green Lantern? Turok (which seriously needs its own proper live action film because its got dinosaurs and aliens in it, and as we know, both can be great fun.) Not sure who else. Maybe that other shite character who Black Panther reminds me of for some reason. Billy Zane.

The current Iron Man is a black teenage girl, Hulk is a Chinese dude, Spider-Man is a Latin American dude, Thor was a woman and Cap was replaced by the Falcon. There have been loads of Batmans since the 90s.

I know that's not exactly what you said, but the titles have been transferred a lot recently.
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« Reply #3629 on: February 28, 2018, 10:21:17 pm »
The current Iron Man is a black teenage girl, Hulk is a Chinese dude, Spider-Man is a Latin American dude, Thor was a woman and Cap was replaced by the Falcon. There have been loads of Batmans since the 90s.

I know that's not exactly what you said, but the titles have been transferred a lot recently.
I'd to check them to see if those were legit. Are these actually at the forefront of the Marvel comic universe now? I get that a mutant spider can bite anyone and give its powers to for Spiderman. Likewise for someone messing around with gamma radiation for the Hulk, although I don't see what reason there is to do that. A teenage girl for Ironman?  Oooooooo K.

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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3630 on: February 28, 2018, 10:37:51 pm »
Teenage girl for Iron Man is about to be written into a black hole by Marvel because the writer that created her has just left for DC Comics ;D

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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3631 on: February 28, 2018, 10:40:29 pm »
In the comics. T'Challa's younger sister becoming the new Iron Man once RDJ gives it up....I could see it.
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« Reply #3632 on: February 28, 2018, 10:48:06 pm »
I'd to check them to see if those were legit. Are these actually at the forefront of the Marvel comic universe now? I get that a mutant spider can bite anyone and give its powers to for Spiderman. Likewise for someone messing around with gamma radiation for the Hulk, although I don't see what reason there is to do that. A teenage girl for Ironman?  Oooooooo K.

Yeah when you write it out like that it really gets wild.

Funny given the timing, they only just announced the new Cap is...

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« Reply #3633 on: February 28, 2018, 10:52:48 pm »
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3634 on: March 1, 2018, 01:05:12 am »
Trying to think of what other comic book character has that trait. Green Lantern? Turok (which seriously needs its own proper live action film because its got dinosaurs and aliens in it, and as we know, both can be great fun.) Not sure who else. Maybe that other shite character who Black Panther reminds me of for some reason. Billy Zane.

The Phantom, Ghost Who Walks, a classic Australian comic book superhero, is a mantle passed from generation to generation. Not the most well known character, but I guess that's what the Billy Zane reference is about?

DC have a long track record of replacing heroes. When they relaunched their line in the late 50s, they had new versions of Green Lantern, The Flash and several others. Later they handed both titles to other characters. The Flash mantle passed on after Crisis on Infinite Earths to former Kid Flash Wally West. There have also been various Robins. The Knightfall storyline saw a new Batman at around the same time four new Supermen took over while Clark Kent was believed to be dead.

Marvel did something similar in the 80s, with Jim "War Machine" Rhodes becoming Iron Man, and several replacement Captains America when Steve Rogers was disillusioned with America and briefly became Nomad. The same era had Beta Ray Bill lift Thor's hammer and Rick Jones was the Hulk for a while, too.

Rumour had it they were worried about losing the rights to the characters, as they were facing potential legal actions from some of the original artists and they thought having different people portray those heroes would be a useful standby, or to show that the heroes were not simply what had been created in the 60s, but could be anyone in the guise.

Although they reinstated the original heroes, it became quite common for new versions of most of their big names to crop up from time to time. There was the Eric Masterson Thor, who would later go by the name Thunderstrike, and numerous Spider-Man clones, with the angle there being that Spidey had actually been the clone Ben Reilly all along. (After writing themselves into a complete corner, they backed out of it and retconned the whole thing.)

Then there was the new, younger Nova, who is quite a big deal now. There have been four or five Captain Marvels, too, and I even hear they have a new Quasar, which is the third one of them.

So the new Iron Man, Spidey, Thor, Hulk and so on are really just the latest in a long line of replacements.
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3635 on: March 1, 2018, 01:10:11 am »
The Phantom, Ghost Who Walks, a classic Australian comic book superhero, is a mantle passed from generation to generation. Not the most well known character, but I guess that's what the Billy Zane reference is about?

DC have a long track record of replacing heroes. When they relaunched their line in the late 50s, they had new versions of Green Lantern, The Flash and several others. Later they handed both titles to other characters. The Flash mantle passed on after Crisis on Infinite Earths to former Kid Flash Wally West. There have also been various Robins. The Knightfall storyline saw a new Batman at around the same time four new Supermen took over while Clark Kent was believed to be dead.

Marvel did something similar in the 80s, with Jim "War Machine" Rhodes becoming Iron Man, and several replacement Captains America when Steve Rogers was disillusioned with America and briefly became Nomad. The same era had Beta Ray Bill lift Thor's hammer and Rick Jones was the Hulk for a while, too.

Rumour had it they were worried about losing the rights to the characters, as they were facing potential legal actions from some of the original artists and they thought having different people portray those heroes would be a useful standby, or to show that the heroes were not simply what had been created in the 60s, but could be anyone in the guise.

Although they reinstated the original heroes, it became quite common for new versions of most of their big names to crop up from time to time. There was the Eric Masterson Thor, who would later go by the name Thunderstrike, and numerous Spider-Man clones, with the angle there being that Spidey had actually been the clone Ben Reilly all along. (After writing themselves into a complete corner, they backed out of it and retconned the whole thing.)

Then there was the new, younger Nova, who is quite a big deal now. There have been four or five Captain Marvels, too, and I even hear they have a new Quasar, which is the third one of them.

So the new Iron Man, Spidey, Thor, Hulk and so on are really just the latest in a long line of replacements.

To me you can pass on Iron Man, Batman, even Spider-Man no problem. Thor, Hulk, Cap, even Superman are all dumb and shouldn't be done.
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3636 on: March 1, 2018, 01:18:18 am »
To me you can pass on Iron Man, Batman, even Spider-Man no problem. Thor, Hulk, Cap, even Superman are all dumb and shouldn't be done.

I think Batman is the hardest to pull off. (Batman of the Future aside.)

Thor has had the whole "whosoever picks up this hammer" shtick since day one, although I don't think they played on it in the early days.
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« Reply #3637 on: March 1, 2018, 01:23:53 am »
I think Batman is the hardest to pull off. (Batman of the Future aside.)

Thor has had the whole "whosoever picks up this hammer" shtick since day one, although I don't think they played on it in the early days.

With Batman it's a guy in the suit, same as Iron Man. As long as the guy who's in the suit performs, it's all good. Hulk, Thor and Superman are all specific people IMO, it seems silly to replace them. Cap is technically a guy in a suit, but his role in the Marvel Universe means Steve Rodgers is far more important as Cap than Bucky/Falcon/Whoever.

I mean it's all silly, but there are differing degrees haha.
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3638 on: March 1, 2018, 02:23:03 am »
Aye, Marvel's going down the shitter.

Just the current environment though, isn't it? Anything that has a straight white guy as a lead gets immediate backlash online, asking why it can't be a woman or a person of color or a LGBT character. Last thing a struggling comic book company needs is that kind of viral campaign. SO they play to the gallery
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Re: Marvel Musings
« Reply #3639 on: March 1, 2018, 07:22:02 am »
Just the current environment though, isn't it? Anything that has a straight white guy as a lead gets immediate backlash online, asking why it can't be a woman or a person of color or a LGBT character. Last thing a struggling comic book company needs is that kind of viral campaign. SO they play to the gallery

Not sure they're struggling that much to be fair.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.