Topic: David Moyes was the manager of Manchester United

[Crosby Nick]

well Giggs won SPOTY after playing 16 odd league games that year as a token gesture to his longevity in the game so why not Januzaj for the youth version eh

Fair point. He's had a great career.

[Motty]

Fair point. He's had a great career.

thats exactly the point mate, Giggs has had a great career but SPOTY is for who's performed the greatest throughout that calendar year ,the fake Welsh prick didn't deserve that accolade and after 3-4 months of football in and around Utd's first team Januzaj doesn't deserve to even be mentioned in this.

This is nothing we all don't know to be true and even their fans will think it's ridiculous but it just pisses me off that those making the decisions on this think we're stupid enough to not see it.

And as you said I'd have Behranio (can't spell it either ) ahead of him as far as young footballers go.

[Crosby Nick]

And as you said I'd have Behranio (can't spell it either ) ahead of him as far as young footballers go.

Before Kerry and Eric get all upset, i think Januzaj is the more talented but hios nomination seems to be built purely on his potential. He's looked very good but has won one game for his side. The Baggies fella (easier!) has probably done more than that.

[Kochevnik]

... the reality is they're better than us but nowhere near league winning.

This is really true but it's getting totally ignored.

United will most likely pip us to fourth (though I think it will be close), but the strange thing is that Moyes has managed to lower expectations so low, so quickly, that this will be thought of as a successful season for United.

[Motty]

Before Kerry and Eric get all upset, i think Januzaj is the more talented but hios nomination seems to be built purely on his potential. He's looked very good but has won one game for his side. The Baggies fella (easier!) has probably done more than that.

in truth neither deserve it because to get nominated for this award they should of been performing consistently in their sport for the whole year which they haven't.
And for Kerry/Eric's benefit I would of said exactly the same thing this time last year had Sterling been nominated for it

[KERRYKOP]

well Giggs won SPOTY after playing 16 odd league games that year as a token gesture to his longevity in the game so why not Januzaj for the youth version eh

I thought you were joking earlier, but this has actually happend.

[Motty]

I thought you were joking earlier, but this has actually happend.

not sure on the exact numbers but he didn't play much that year (i remember someone saying 16 league games at the time),and didn't do anything really of note but somehow won the thing.

It's a bit like them giving it to Carra last year just because he was coming to the end of his career.

[redgriffin73]

Nomination for young SPOTY......can you guess who?

The Manchester United winger has started just four league games and played a total of 537 minutes of senior football.
 

Oh my sweet Jesus!

[Cantona]

Before Kerry and Eric get all upset, i think Januzaj is the more talented but hios nomination seems to be built purely on his potential. He's looked very good but has won one game for his side. The Baggies fella (easier!) has probably done more than that.

No, I agree with you, but it's only the BBC YSPOTY, why are some of you so worked up about him being nominated?

[JohnnoWhite]

Bleedin' hell - sweet Jesus hasn't been nominated too has he? No-one else stands a ferkin' chance then do they  

[TSC]

Don't know why the surprise over this.  Didn't that Mecheda get knighted a couple of yrs ago for scoring a few? 

[Cantona]

It's not a gamble when it goes to charity is it. It all goes to a good cause, and one of your choice. So back that 'swagger' of yours up and bet him a sum you deem reasonable to give to charity you mouthy miserable fuck!

I've already had a couple of bets with lads in here, which goes to the Hillsborough fund.

If it's not a gamble when it goes to charity, how about the two of you make that 5 grand bet yourselves? Top scorer out of Suarez and Sturridge would be a good one, I bet YOU don't.

[SP]

"Mouthy miserable fuck" is normally considered abuse. Even to a Manc. Be civil, or be gone.

[Motty]

Bleedin' hell - sweet Jesus hasn't been nominated too has he? No-one else stands a ferkin' chance then do they  

[Motty]

No, I agree with you, but it's only the BBC YSPOTY, why are some of you so worked up about him being nominated?

it's just a bit fucking daft though isn't it, someone who's only played for 3-4 months (regardless of who he plays for) can be up for sportsman of the WHOLE year.

[Hij]

No, I agree with you, but it's only the BBC YSPOTY, why are some of you so worked up about him being nominated?

Because it's a crock of shit, biased as usual towards the Mancs. How hard is that to compute?

[Cantona]

it's just a bit fucking daft though isn't it, someone who's only played for 3-4 months (regardless of who he plays for) can be up for sportsman of the WHOLE year.

Yes, in fairness it's a bit daft.

[Hij]

I see Ross Barkley's not up for it, funny that.

[EstonianRed]

Also, as poor as Ashley Young has been this season, fair play to him here, this is a nice gesture.

As much as I dislike Young, this is very nice !!

[Cantona]

I see Ross Barkley's not up for it, funny that.

He's too old.

[clinical]

He's scored in one game

[Hij]

He's too old.

My apologies I didn't realise that. It was just someone who similarly had broken through in their respective team this season and who has arguably done better.

[Cantona]

My apologies I didn't realise that. It was just someone who similarly had broken through in their respective team this season and who has arguably done better.

I think the criteria is 17 and under in January 2013.

Don't worry about Barkley,I'm sure he will get the recognition he deserves at the next PFA YPOTY awards.

[Lawnmowerman]

I've already had a couple of bets with lads in here, which goes to the Hillsborough fund.

If it's not a gamble when it goes to charity, how about the two of you make that 5 grand bet yourselves? Top scorer out of Suarez and Sturridge would be a good one.

I wouldn't have that kind of money. I laughed meself when i seen him say 5 grand. Was a mad figure. I would have money i deem reasonable to give to charity, i give to various ones through the year year, but thats beside the point, it's not a pissing contest. He called you on a bet because you've been mouthy all through the thread the last couple of pages to see if you can back that swagger up

I bet YOU don't.

haha Let's say i take you up on that bet, i can then go conspire with Lee to make a bet to take your money. Fuck me you're a clever boy

"Mouthy miserable fuck" is normally considered abuse. Even to a Manc. Be civil, or be gone.

I'll swerve the thread alltogether so. Full of mancs anyway, coming out with the same smart arse clever comments me 13 year old utd following nephew comes out with. Except it's clever when it comes form a kid. Place has gone to shit

[Cantona]

I wouldn't have that kind of money. I laughed meself when i seen him say 5 grand. Was a mad figure. I would have money i deem reasonable to give to charity, i give to various ones through the year year, but thats beside the point, it's not a pissing contest. He called you on a bet because you've been mouthy all through the thread the last couple of pages to see if you can back that swagger uphaha Let's say i take you up on that bet, i can then go conspire with Lee to make a bet to take your money. Fuck me you're a clever boy I'll swerve the thread alltogether so. Full of mancs anyway, coming out with the same smart arse clever comments me 13 year old utd following nephew comes out with. Except it's clever when it comes form a kid. Place has gone to shit

I've already made a couple of bets with lads on here, that's enough for me.
I've not offered you any bet, I said you and him should gamble with each other if you both think gambling 5 grand is "only charity"

[Lee1970]

I've already made a couple of bets with lads on here, that's enough for me.
I've not offered you any bet, I said you and him should gamble with each other if you both think gambling 5 grand is "only charity"

Fair enough if you don't want to take up the bet,  I would not have taken it if I was you...

[WhoHe]

I'll swerve the thread alltogether so. Full of mancs anyway, coming out with the same smart arse clever comments me 13 year old utd following nephew comes out with. Except it's clever when it comes form a kid. Place has gone to shit

You will be told off for that.

I concur, we are bending over backwards to over-accomodate our hated rivals on a LIVERPOOL forum. Too broad-minded to take our own side in a quarrel.

[Samie]

You will be told off for that.

I concur, we are bending over backwards to over-accomodate our hated rivals on a LIVERPOOL forum. Too broad-minded to take our own side in a quarrel.

erm you take it on an individual basis. Why are you judging all manc paters on a select few some who have been here years like Johnno and Rosso?

[Red Beret]

As much as I dislike Young, this is very nice !!

Did he fall over typing that? 

[WhoHe]

I was specifically talking about the ones trolling in this thread, *most* people know who I am talking about. Johnno for example I find an excellent poster in other thtreads etc. and tbf in this one he talks sense without any sly and not-so-sly digs.
Maybe I should have listed them and given them scores just to make it clear that I am not talking about all Manc contributors to this site, just to please all.

[Brian Blessed]

I was specifically talking about the ones trolling in this thread, *most* people know who I am talking about. Johnno for example I find an excellent poster in other thtreads etc. and tbf in this one he talks sense without any sly and not-so-sly digs.
Maybe I should have listed them and given them scores just to make it clear that I am not talking about all Manc contributors to this site, just to please all.

Kerry does go on a wind-up, and is getting worse. But calling him a c*nt bucket or what-have-you is really playing into his hands. Plus he is one, and reacting back en masse is a little bully-ish. Best to report the objectional posts and let the mods take care of it.

And if one of his posts really is bothering you, remember; David Moyes is the manager of Manchester United.

[Titan]

Nomination for young SPOTY......can you guess who?

The Manchester United winger has started just four league games and played a total of 537 minutes of senior football.
 

[Ziltoid]

well Giggs won SPOTY after playing 16 odd league games that year as a token gesture to his longevity in the game so why not Januzaj for the youth version eh

Yes, and i was dead against that.  They should have given him a lifetime achievement award.

[Lawnmowerman]

Just let me say Samie, i've got nothing against mancs doing the rounds on the site. Some are sound but you'd notice they're not in your face all the time with the 'good banter'. Personal experience has taught me there is no banter to be had between the two sets for long. You put a lid on it after a while. If folk are constantly in your face, noses eventually get put out of Joint.

Anyway.....Moyes is still the manager of utd

[Hazell]

Yes, and i was dead against that.  They should have given him a lifetime achievement award.

Exactly. One more Manc amongst the numerous pn that particular list wouldn't have made much of a difference.

[Crosby Nick]

Tryig to get back on topic...United v Everton tomorrow. How do we see that one going? Bit of pressure on Moyes for this one, he wouldn't want the indignity of losing to his old club, especially when they haven't won away at any of the old ( ) big 4 in 10 years - I forgot under who's management that was!

Everton will be full of confidence, I can see them going there and giving it a good go which in itself seems weird to type. Sensible head on I suppose a draw would be the best result all round although I would be interested in the reactions all round were Everton to win.

Thoughts?

[4pool]

I'd take a draw right now..



MATCH FACTS

Head-to-head

Everton's last victory at Old Trafford came in the first Premier League encounter between the two sides in August 1992. The Toffees ran out 3-0 winners courtesy of goals from Peter Beardsley, Mo Johnston and Robert Warzycha.

Manchester United have won 16 of their 21 Premier League home games against Everton, with four matches drawn.

The Red Devils have scored more goals against Everton (84) than they have against any other Premier League side.

[Motty]

Yes, and i was dead against that.  They should have given him a lifetime achievement award.

was only quoting your post mate so I could make a sarcastic post of my own about the nomination
Life time achievement award is exactly what they made it into that year which isn't fair on whoever the real winner should of been that year.
 
Giggs with that, Januzaj now and even further back Demento getting a knighthood for winning a treble (yes he probably deserves one now but not then he didn't), it's funny how these things happen to them isn't it.

[Phil M]

Tryig to get back on topic...United v Everton tomorrow. How do we see that one going? Bit of pressure on Moyes for this one, he wouldn't want the indignity of losing to his old club, especially when they haven't won away at any of the old ( ) big 4 in 10 years - I forgot under who's management that was!

Everton will be full of confidence, I can see them going there and giving it a good go which in itself seems weird to type. Sensible head on I suppose a draw would be the best result all round although I would be interested in the reactions all round were Everton to win.

Thoughts?

Draw will be lovely if we win.

[tonysleft]

was only quoting your post mate so I could make a sarcastic post of my own about the nomination
Life time achievement award is exactly what they made it into that year which isn't fair on whoever the real winner should of been that year.
 
Giggs with that, Januzaj now and even further back Demento getting a knighthood for winning a treble (yes he probably deserves one now but not then he didn't), it's funny how these things happen to them isn't it.

Ferguson was just lucky to receive his at a time where it was sort of becoming the vogue thing to do to give sports stars OBEs and such. Had he won the treble in 2006 instead he wouldn't be Sir.

Giggs' award was a lifetime achievement award, Januzaj's is a silly, undeserved nomination. I don't see the big deal though. I mean.. seriously. It's a fucking glorified TV award. This is the same station that payed Mark Lawrenson and Garth Crooks salaries for their opinions on football. I really don't see why people are getting so worked up about it. Oh no, the purveyor of mediocre football programming have some weird bias for Manchester United.