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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #240 on: August 25, 2012, 11:16:17 AM »
I dont think were tat far from being a really good team. If we keep Andy C and use him as an option with/instead of Borini every now and then, then thats not a bad fron two to go with. If we do sell Andy then its imperative that we get a good finisher. As far as I can see its the only real weakness we will have.

Our defence is sound and I really rate robinson as a back up left back. The lads got a good future.
Right back is sorted with either Glen or Mathew.
Middle pairing as normal but Coatesy needs to start getting an outing. Hopefully tomorrow.

Middle 3 of Allen, Lucas and Sahin is quality across the centre.

Borini/Andy/Luis/Downing/Stirling/Gerrard up front isnt to shabby either.

IF (and its a big ask) we can get 4th this year, and I wouldnt say is out of the question - just our belief that worries me - then we get get Sahin to stay for CL footy. Job done and the start of another glorious reign.

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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #241 on: August 25, 2012, 11:19:56 AM »
I dont think were tat far from being a really good team. If we keep Andy C and use him as an option with/instead of Borini every now and then, then thats not a bad fron two to go with. If we do sell Andy then its imperative that we get a good finisher. As far as I can see its the only real weakness we will have.

Our defence is sound and I really rate robinson as a back up left back. The lads got a good future.
Right back is sorted with either Glen or Mathew.
Middle pairing as normal but Coatesy needs to start getting an outing. Hopefully tomorrow.

Middle 3 of Allen, Lucas and Sahin is quality across the centre.

Borini/Andy/Luis/Downing/Stirling/Gerrard up front isnt to shabby either.

IF (and its a big ask) we can get 4th this year, and I wouldnt say is out of the question - just our belief that worries me - then we get get Sahin to stay for CL footy. Job done and the start of another glorious reign.

Fuckin sorted!!!
sahin isnt staying, hes going back to real. xabi alonso on the other hand...
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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #242 on: August 25, 2012, 11:21:07 AM »
On paper, a midfield of Lucas, Allen and Sahin should work, with Gerrard being moved further forward.

The best part of the deal is that we've fucked up Arsenal's plans. If he turns out to be a decent player for us, even better.

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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #243 on: August 25, 2012, 11:21:14 AM »
Who do you think will sit out Filler ? 

Just don't think it'll be a case of anyone sitting out as such. You've got some very good options there with Lucas, Allen and Sahin (possibly first choice?), with Henderson, Gerrard and Shelvey. We'll see I guess.

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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #244 on: August 25, 2012, 11:22:09 AM »
Sahin celebrating a last minute winner in front of Podolski after Podolski had clattered him in a challenge.  :lmao


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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #245 on: August 25, 2012, 11:23:24 AM »
FFS, you moaners ! Here is proof !

From the Times :

"Real have accepted Liverpool’s offer to pay 70 per cent of Sahin’s wages to take him on loan for the rest of the season. Arsenal had been prepared to pay only 60 per cent, but were unwilling to accept an option price of £14 million at the end of the season, and despite the added lure of Champions League football now look likely to miss out on one of Arsène Wenger’s summer transfer targets. "

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70 % of 120 K is somewhere around 85K. Make that a year long and it is approximately  £5 million. No buy out clause as of now. That is the deal.

And no other fees involved ?

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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #246 on: August 25, 2012, 11:23:34 AM »
Get in. Great signing. Game changer

Allen/Lucas/Sahin is mouth watering.

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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #247 on: August 25, 2012, 11:24:36 AM »
Sahin celebrating a last minute winner in front of Podolski after Podolski had clattered him in a challenge.  :lmao



Superb!
It looks to me as if we have signed another 'average' player. I'll hold back my complete opinion until I see the lad play

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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #248 on: August 25, 2012, 11:24:55 AM »
Just don't think it'll be a case of anyone sitting out as such. You've got some very good options there with Lucas, Allen and Sahin (possibly first choice?), with Henderson, Gerrard and Shelvey. We'll see I guess.
No cover for Lucas, and no one capable of being the creative player behind the striker. No cover for Enrique and no striker we really need. But we have signed for a season a player that makes the 15m we spent on Henderson last season redundant.

Sahin is a top player, but Arsenal were spot on looking for an option to buy. We are just getting Sahin ready for Madrid, while paying for the pleasure. It's akin to fathead taking players from Utd on loan to see if they are ready for whiskeynose.
Why are you looking past this season?

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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #249 on: August 25, 2012, 11:25:09 AM »
Get in. Great signing. Game changer

Allen/Lucas/Sahin is mouth watering.

I feel kind of sorry for the opposition trying to get the ball off this trio.
It looks to me as if we have signed another 'average' player. I'll hold back my complete opinion until I see the lad play

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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #250 on: August 25, 2012, 11:25:22 AM »
Hits the post twice in that video. He's a Liverpool player all right.

Precisely what I noticed. :( But at least there were a couple of goals in there too.
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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #251 on: August 25, 2012, 11:25:31 AM »
ohh yes soooooperb delighted at this signing get in
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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #252 on: August 25, 2012, 11:25:49 AM »
Pretty quality side/squad in general now.

One more decent forward/winger and we're sorted I think

Reina/Jones
Johnson/Kelly Skrtel/Carra Agger/Coates Enrique/Robinson
Sahin/Shelvey Allen/Adam Lucas/Henderson
Gerrard/Downing Suarez/Carroll Borini/Sterling

Plenty of options around - depending on how Arsenal/Spurs replace Song/Modric we could have a shot at 4th...

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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #253 on: August 25, 2012, 11:25:59 AM »
No cover for Lucas, and no one capable of being the creative player behind the striker. No cover for Enrique and no striker we really need. But we have signed for a season a player that makes the 15m we spent on Henderson last season redundant.

Sahin is a top player, but Arsenal were spot on looking for an option to buy. We are just getting Sahin ready for Madrid, while paying for the pleasure. It's akin to fathead taking players from Utd on loan to see if they are ready for whiskeynose.

Yeah, because he will not strengthen us next season what so ever.

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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #254 on: August 25, 2012, 11:27:00 AM »
And no other fees involved ?

Nada. Not reported anyway.

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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #255 on: August 25, 2012, 11:27:43 AM »
Yeah, because he will not strengthen us next season what so ever.
What happens once he goes? We have to replace him once again. Short term hopefulness, with a headache at the end. Brilliant.

We are a crèche for Maureen.
Why are you looking past this season?

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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #256 on: August 25, 2012, 11:28:13 AM »
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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #257 on: August 25, 2012, 11:29:12 AM »
What happens once he goes? We have to replace him once again. Short term hopefulness, with a headache at the end. Brilliant.

We are a crèche for Maureen.

Why are you looking past this season?

If he improves us this season then that's the aim. If he helps us to get into the top 4 then we will deal with the hole then.

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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #258 on: August 25, 2012, 11:30:29 AM »
Why are you looking past this season?

If he improves us this season then that's the aim. If he helps us to get into the top 4 then we will deal with the hole then.
You are fucking kidding? Why look past this season. Fuck sake. If we don't get 4th what do we do? not deal with it.

Why look past this season, I'm using that.
Why are you looking past this season?

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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #259 on: August 25, 2012, 11:30:47 AM »
If we can add a striker to our side, we have had a good transfer period. Sahin, Allen, Borini and Assaidi isn 't half bad. Hopefully we can clear out the deadwood once more aswell.
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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #260 on: August 25, 2012, 11:31:40 AM »
No cover for Lucas, and no one capable of being the creative player behind the striker. No cover for Enrique and no striker we really need. But we have signed for a season a player that makes the 15m we spent on Henderson last season redundant.

Sahin is a top player, but Arsenal were spot on looking for an option to buy. We are just getting Sahin ready for Madrid, while paying for the pleasure. It's akin to fathead taking players from Utd on loan to see if they are ready for whiskeynose.
well except it isn't. Shelvey is Lucas's back up, or sahin, or whoever, if he gets injured we just play a little more offensive that's all. Allen/sahin/Gerrard isn't a bad midfield, though it doesn't free gerrard up enough, shelvey/sahin/allen works too. Even if henderson is thrown in we have a good midfield. We have 60 games to play and 6 midfielders for 3 positions if spearing and adam are allowed to leave. If we then add dempsey who can cover in midfield in a dire emergency, then we really have the attacking positions covered. Though maybe they are a bit shaky  up front as far as how good they are at finishing. left back needs cover though.
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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #261 on: August 25, 2012, 11:32:27 AM »
Great signing, credit to the club for pulling it off.

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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #262 on: August 25, 2012, 11:33:07 AM »
Great signing but 5 million quid for ONE season loan?  Am I missing something here?

Crazy money.

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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #263 on: August 25, 2012, 11:34:09 AM »
You are fucking kidding? Why look past this season. Fuck sake. If we don't get 4th what do we do? not deal with it.

Why look past this season, I'm using that.
even if sahin is on 9 million pounds worth of wages and fee for the year that's a one year player cost comparable to all our top players. if we are just paying real 5, then he is about as costly as coates.
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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #264 on: August 25, 2012, 11:34:15 AM »
What happens once he goes? We have to replace him once again. Short term hopefulness, with a headache at the end. Brilliant.

We are a crèche for Maureen.

We only have one of mourinhos players on loan so hardly a crèche. It's a one off

As for what we're going to do at the end of the season, maybe players like shelvey and hendo would have gained enough confidence and improvement to pick up the baton.

Or maybe we will have cash at that time to by someone else

I think brend has done well this transfer windows considering how tight the purse strings are at the moment

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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #265 on: August 25, 2012, 11:34:37 AM »
Sahin celebrating a last minute winner in front of Podolski after Podolski had clattered him in a challenge.  :lmao



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« Reply #266 on: August 25, 2012, 11:34:39 AM »
Short term hopefulness, with a headache at the end. Brilliant.

Yes, we would rather have long term optimism by signing players like Poulsen, Adam and Downing isn't it ?  ::)

He strengthens the squad, that's what is important. If by chance we reach a top 4 spot with his help, we would be in a much better position to get a replacement or sign him permanently.

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« Reply #267 on: August 25, 2012, 11:34:50 AM »
well except it isn't. Shelvey is Lucas's back up, or sahin, or whoever, if he gets injured we just play a little more offensive that's all. Allen/sahin/Gerrard isn't a bad midfield, though it doesn't free gerrard up enough, shelvey/sahin/allen works too. Even if henderson is thrown in we have a good midfield. We have 60 games to play and 6 midfielders for 3 positions if spearing and adam are allowed to leave. If we then add dempsey who can cover in midfield in a dire emergency, then we really have the attacking positions covered. Though maybe they are a bit shaky  up front as far as how good they are at finishing. left back needs cover though.
How is Shelvey Lucas's backup? The guy is no where near good enough to do that.

We have bought two midfielders that don't do what we need, cover for Lucas and someone that can create behind the striker in the three in midfield. 
Why are you looking past this season?

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« Reply #268 on: August 25, 2012, 11:35:10 AM »
Nada. Not reported anyway.
so in essence, for one years worth of services we are paying 5 million with no option to buy?
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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #269 on: August 25, 2012, 11:35:56 AM »
Great signing but 5 million quid for ONE season loan?  Am I missing something here?

Crazy money.

There must be a reason why we've paid that amount, if indeed we have.

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« Reply #270 on: August 25, 2012, 11:36:31 AM »
-----------------Reina----------------
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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #271 on: August 25, 2012, 11:36:40 AM »
Amazing signing.

Don't care he is only here for a year or what we paid - would much rather that headache than not having him at all.

Allen/Lucas/Sahin - truely worldclass midfield.

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« Reply #272 on: August 25, 2012, 11:38:12 AM »
so in essence, for one years worth of services we are paying 5 million with no option to buy?

Indeed. It's like Joe Cole with world class returns on the pitch.

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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #273 on: August 25, 2012, 11:38:15 AM »
How is Shelvey Lucas's backup? The guy is no where near good enough to do that.

We have bought two midfielders that don't do what we need, cover for Lucas and someone that can create behind the striker in the three in midfield.
Sahin can create behind the striker, i dont think we need a like to like replacement for lucas. I think we can run a midfield with allen gerrard and sahin. Gerrard cancreate behind the striker thats for sure, and whilst we wont break up play as well without lucas, itll be a better midfield for offense, and quite frankly there are only 2 or 3 teams with a player comparable to lucas. Having a player in his exact mold as back up isnt a necessity.
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« Reply #274 on: August 25, 2012, 11:38:15 AM »
We only have one of mourinhos players on loan so hardly a crèche. It's a one off

As for what we're going to do at the end of the season, maybe players like shelvey and hendo would have gained enough confidence and improvement to pick up the baton.

Or maybe we will have cash at that time to by someone else

I think brend has done well this transfer windows considering how tight the purse strings are at the moment
Play Henderson and Shevley for experience, don't replace they in the team and hope they suddenly get better next season. Sahin is a top player, but getting him in on loan is stupid, do people not remember the Alonso problem?
Yes, we would rather have long term optimism by signing players like Poulsen, Adam and Downing isn't it ?  ::)

He strengthens the squad, that's what is important. If by chance we reach a top 4 spot with his help, we would be in a much better position to get a replacement or sign him permanently.
Don't fuck straw men around to make your point, Poulsen, Adam and downing have fuck all to do with this.

We need to strengthen in other areas first, in fact Sahin is going to stunt more players that anything.
Why are you looking past this season?

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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #275 on: August 25, 2012, 11:38:41 AM »
You are fucking kidding? Why look past this season. Fuck sake. If we don't get 4th what do we do? not deal with it.

Why look past this season, I'm using that.

If we don't get 4th then the deal may not of worked out well.

It's no good looking past this season in terms of this deal, he will improve the squad this season and this season is what currently matters.

If we finish top 4 then we can plug the gap with using the draw and riches of CL football. If we don't get top 4 then all we have lost is some money (which the owners seem willing to take the risk on) and we are left with the same squad as now minus Sahin.

I really don't see the big issue here.

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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #276 on: August 25, 2012, 11:39:04 AM »
so in essence, for one years worth of services we are paying 5 million with no option to buy?

Who gives a shit he's ours, we just signed a player who won the Bundesliga on his own not too long ago. £5m for one year of services is a fucking bargain

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« Reply #277 on: August 25, 2012, 11:39:14 AM »
Indeed. It's like Joe Cole with world class returns on the pitch.
awesome. all fees and wages included correct?
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« Reply #278 on: August 25, 2012, 11:39:28 AM »
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Re: Liverpool Sign Nuri Sahin
« Reply #279 on: August 25, 2012, 11:40:18 AM »
There must be a reason why we've paid that amount, if indeed we have.

It's because we're LFC mate, pay top dollar and get peanuts in return.