Author Topic: 2012/13 Match Of The Day thread (Read 269078 times)

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #2800 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:50:38 pm »

Quote from: Welshred on December 22, 2012, 10:48:31 pm

Yeh, and if I knock someone over whilst driving tomorrow and they die from their injuries it'd still be an accident. I'd still get charged with death by dangerous driving though.

No you wouldnt. If you were driving dangerously you would. If they ran out in front of you then you wouldnt.

Golden_Child · « **Reply #2801 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:50:42 pm »

Gibsons was worse than Coles

zip · « **Reply #2802 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:51:02 pm »

Refs are getting worse by the game.

JustDan · « **Reply #2803 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:51:10 pm »

Quote from: JohnHoHoHobbes on December 22, 2012, 10:46:29 pm

An/Most exciting game is normally top of the order. We had a better and more exciting game than the rest I thought, so 4th does seem strange.

Yeah. Arguably this Everton/West Ham game could be first with us 2nd, but can't see why the other 2 are. Not a massive deal, but it is a bit annoying.

unknownuser · « **Reply #2804 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:51:16 pm »

Top class refereeing that lol

Surprise me. · « **Reply #2805 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:51:22 pm »

Neither red card needed but it's a hard decision to make.

Welshred · « **Reply #2806 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:51:26 pm »

Quote from: slushyman on December 22, 2012, 10:50:18 pm

Haha

Just defending ref for sake of it mate.

He didnt know he was even there

Not at all. That's fine. You go play tomorrow and take someone's studs in your head and see what you think from that. I'm off from this thread. It's the right decision, no matter what you think of it.

Cochise · « **Reply #2807 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:51:28 pm »

Ref was shite but he pissed off Allardyce so it's all good.

smicer07 · « **Reply #2808 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:51:36 pm »

Quote from: Welshred on December 22, 2012, 10:50:25 pm

Doesn't matter if his eyes were on the ball, if he didn't mean to do it, if he sucked him off after kicking him. Fact's are Carlton Cole went into the tackle with studs showing at head height of an opposition player. Just like Gibson's wild and rash tackle there. Both reds and using excessive force that they don't need to.

Might as well ban any physical contact. Just send everyone off.

rushyman · « **Reply #2809 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:51:47 pm »

Shame to see Noble play acting like that

murphs316 · « **Reply #2810 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:52:27 pm »

Sorry my bad i thought it was not allowed for Coates knock down

B0151? · « **Reply #2811 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:52:46 pm »

why do the one week they have gabby on they ruin it with savage

Quote from: murphs316 on December 22, 2012, 10:52:27 pm

Sorry my bad i thought it was not allowed for Coates knock down

to be fair, it's not exactly as if it was made that clear, remember loads of evertonians claiming it was because of coates. gerrard said he asked the lino after if he thought it was offside and he said he did

rushyman · « **Reply #2812 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:53:41 pm »

Quote from: Welshred on December 22, 2012, 10:51:26 pm

Not at all. That's fine. You go play tomorrow and take someone's studs in your head and see what you think from that. I'm off from this thread. It's the right decision, no matter what you think of it.

No actually it isnt

And Ive had studs in the head. Many times. And sometimes its a yellow sometimes its nothing

It is not a reckless challenge as there was no intent for it to be a challenge. He was attempting to control the ball

Aido LFC · « **Reply #2813 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:53:43 pm »

MOTD taking the piss here.

timiano · « **Reply #2814 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:53:54 pm »

Are we going to be fucking last again?

Aido LFC · « **Reply #2815 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:54:06 pm »

Quote from: Welshred on December 22, 2012, 10:50:25 pm

Doesn't matter if his eyes were on the ball, if he didn't mean to do it, if he sucked him off after kicking him. Fact's are Carlton Cole went into the tackle with studs showing at head height of an opposition player. Just like Gibson's wild and rash tackle there. Both reds and using excessive force that they don't need to.

There has to be intent, there was none.

robertobaggio37 · « **Reply #2816 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:54:14 pm »

Anyone got a link to motd?

El_Pistolero · « **Reply #2817 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:55:56 pm »

Shit from Foster.

Welshred · « **Reply #2818 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:56:04 pm »

Quote from: Band Aido LFC on December 22, 2012, 10:54:06 pm

There has to be intent, there was none.

No, there doesn't. There has to be excessive force, of which there was plenty.

Quote from: slushyman on December 22, 2012, 10:53:41 pm

It is not a reckless challenge as there was no intent for it to be a challenge. He was attempting to control the ball

As defined by the laws of the game reckless = yellow, using excessive force = red. Cole and Gibson both used excessive force there.

Cochise · « **Reply #2819 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:57:03 pm »

Quote from: El_Christolero on December 22, 2012, 10:55:56 pm

Shit from Foster.

Yeah but he's young, he'll get better with age.

Camarero25 · « **Reply #2820 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:57:29 pm »

Quote from: Welshred on December 22, 2012, 10:56:04 pm

No, there doesn't. There has to be excessive force, of which there was plenty.

As defined by the laws of the game reckless = yellow, using excessive force = red. Cole and Gibson both used excessive force there.

There wasn't excessive force. He was lifting his leg up to control the ball. How is that excessive force?

Welshred · « **Reply #2821 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:59:02 pm »

Quote from: Camarero25 on December 22, 2012, 10:57:29 pm

There wasn't excessive force. He was lifting his leg up to control the ball. How is that excessive force?

Because the weapon should have been going in with his head like Baines was for a ball that high.

El_Pistolero · « **Reply #2822 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:59:15 pm »

Lovely delivery that.

dave 5516 · « **Reply #2823 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:59:29 pm »

Quote from: robertobaggio37 on December 22, 2012, 10:54:14 pm

Anyone got a link to motd?

http://www.viponlinesports.eu/football/116757/1/bbc-match-of-the-day-live-stream-online.html

Cochise · « **Reply #2824 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:59:36 pm »

Adamski or Seal. Whatever.

stevied · « **Reply #2825 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:59:54 pm »

Quote from: timiano on December 22, 2012, 10:53:54 pm

Are we going to be fucking last again?

On next

Camarero25 · « **Reply #2826 on:** December 22, 2012, 11:00:24 pm »

Quote from: Welshred on December 22, 2012, 10:59:02 pm

Because the weapon should have been going in with his head like Baines was for a ball that high.

He didn't see Baines. You rarely attempt to control the ball with your head.

draids · « **Reply #2827 on:** December 22, 2012, 11:00:40 pm »

that Lukaku goal reminded me a bit of Carroll's header against City

robertobaggio37 · « **Reply #2828 on:** December 22, 2012, 11:00:51 pm »

Quote from: dave 5516 on December 22, 2012, 10:59:29 pm

http://www.viponlinesports.eu/football/116757/1/bbc-match-of-the-day-live-stream-online.html

many thanks

Welshred · « **Reply #2829 on:** December 22, 2012, 11:00:55 pm »

Quote from: Camarero25 on December 22, 2012, 11:00:24 pm

He didn't see Baines. You rarely attempt to control the ball with your head.

Doesn't matter. That ball is 6 feet in the air. He should not be going anywhere near that with his foot.

kennedy81 · « **Reply #2830 on:** December 22, 2012, 11:01:06 pm »

big win for Clarkey that

SYLENTm · « **Reply #2831 on:** December 22, 2012, 11:02:17 pm »

Forgot that Lukaku is 19, the lad is huge

rushyman · « **Reply #2832 on:** December 22, 2012, 11:02:45 pm »

Quote from: Welshred on December 22, 2012, 10:56:04 pm

No, there doesn't. There has to be excessive force, of which there was plenty.

As defined by the laws of the game reckless = yellow, using excessive force = red. Cole and Gibson both used excessive force there.

Far too much energy spent on it now but I'll just say that there was not excessive force. It was an accident

Are we sending players off for accidents now? What an absolute nonsense. That means if a player clearly falls over and slides into a player in the wet its a red aswell? falls over Give the foul by all means, if it gives an unfair advantage but a red is absurd

My money is on the ref simply not seeing it for what it was which you cant blame him for. Just an unfortunate incident for West Ham and the Ref

B0151? · « **Reply #2833 on:** December 22, 2012, 11:04:07 pm »

Quote from: slushyman on December 22, 2012, 11:02:45 pm

Are we sending players off for accidents now? What an absolute nonsense. That means if a player clearly falls over and slides into a player in the wet its a red aswell?

Swear Alonso did get sent off for that for us a while ago

WorldChampions · « **Reply #2834 on:** December 22, 2012, 11:04:47 pm »

3 matches and at least 3 managers have moaned about the ref so far

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #2835 on:** December 22, 2012, 11:04:52 pm »

Quote from: Welshred on December 22, 2012, 10:59:02 pm

Because the weapon should have been going in with his head like Baines was for a ball that high.

He actually controlled it (which is an achievement for Carlton), Baines stooped slightly to head it. Common sense says there's no way that should be a red (I know refs make decision by the rulebook, not by common sense but that's a shame).

Still 3 match ban over Christmas for West Ham's main striker. Not going to complain!

Surprise me. · « **Reply #2836 on:** December 22, 2012, 11:05:22 pm »

Right then, lets see how we did.

RJH · « **Reply #2837 on:** December 22, 2012, 11:05:57 pm »

Quote from: Bakez0151 on December 22, 2012, 11:04:07 pm

Swear Alonso did get sent off for that for us a while ago

Against Arsenal, got a second yellow for it.

El_Pistolero · « **Reply #2838 on:** December 22, 2012, 11:06:46 pm »

Such a good finish.

El_Pistolero · « **Reply #2839 on:** December 22, 2012, 11:07:15 pm »

Agger's miss.