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Is Money.................
« on: June 7, 2012, 01:26:48 pm »
Really that important. Have we as a society fucked off true values, such as love, compassion,respect forgiveness etc.

I only ask as i want to know what you think. Id rather have the true love of someone and be homeless and skint than false love and a full wallet. Am i in a minority. I was speaking to a friend the other day and she was very upfront. She admitted all she wanted in a man was a good job, money, house and holidays. Is this really how the next generation see life? A meal ticket without values? Id never date anyone for money ( fat arses aside ;) ) but ive seen so much crap in the last few days i wonder where we are headed. Some of the kids in town, my own kids, my relatives etc. They have everything but its not enough. We all want to be comfortable but what would you guys choose? Are you materialistic or not?

And yes i have a reason to ask. Call it research for a project im looking into.  :wave
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Re: Is Money.................
« Reply #1 on: June 7, 2012, 01:28:35 pm »
No amount of money keeps you company.
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Re: Is Money.................
« Reply #2 on: June 7, 2012, 01:29:35 pm »
No amount of money keeps you company.

Unless you build yourself a robotronic human companion.
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« Reply #3 on: June 7, 2012, 01:36:28 pm »
I had a really good mate back in Libpool when I was a teenager. Rich as creosote his family was. Lived in an amazing house over on the Wirral. Down to earth family. I didn't have two pennies to rub together (no, not even cardboard ones!!) and they looked after me really well, never asked for anything in return and appreciated the friendship I could offer.
 
When I started working I came back up and stayed 2 weeks there. I insisted on paying my way but they wouldn't let me. I said it wasn't fair that now that I could pay something back that they should continue to feed me, let me use their home, water, power, etc, now that I had some money like.
 
His mum said something that stuck with me to this day, "Money's embarrassing when you've got it, and when you haven't." Ever since then I've not really been cash-fixated. I guess you say I'm well-off these days, cos I've looked after it better the older I get but I wouldn't consider it "important" in the Ferengi acquisition style of things.
 
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Re: Is Money.................
« Reply #4 on: June 7, 2012, 01:37:03 pm »
You can make a life without love, can you make a life without money?

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« Reply #5 on: June 7, 2012, 01:40:22 pm »
We were skint when I was a youngster. Lived on council estates and worse. I earn money and I spend it but I wouldn't say it was important really.

If you haven't got any then you get by. I know some insanely rich people that have never been happy.
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« Reply #6 on: June 7, 2012, 01:54:02 pm »
I prefer love and health above anything. Money comes and goes... Sometimes I have it, more often than not I don't, so I don't overworry anyway. What for? I love simple things and I don't need the latest thing out there to be happy.

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« Reply #7 on: June 7, 2012, 01:54:03 pm »
The less you care about money and the accumulation thereof, the easier it is for you to get by. It helps having people you love around you and people who have a similar attitude to it.
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« Reply #8 on: June 7, 2012, 01:54:53 pm »
I know some insanely rich people that have never been happy.
That too! When I was earning - well - a shitload - I was desperately unhappy, spending like there was no tomorrow, up to my eyes in mortgage and credit card debts, stuck in a dead-end relationship where I was the cash machine. When I lost that job the fiancée says, "Oh no! How are you going to pay for my wedding now?" - so I walked - left her the lot - house, car, furniture, the lot - felt great doing it too!!

So another saying that Andy reminded me of is, "The more you earn, the more you spend."

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« Reply #9 on: June 7, 2012, 01:57:09 pm »
That too! When I was earning - well - a shitload - I was desperately unhappy, spending like there was no tomorrow, up to my eyes in mortgage and credit card debts, stuck in a dead-end relationship where I was the cash machine. When I lost that job the fiancée says, "Oh no! How are you going to pay for my wedding now?" - so I walked - left her the lot - house, car, furniture, the lot - felt great doing it too!!

So another saying that Andy reminded me of is, "The more you earn, the more you spend."

Totally... people start to buy buy buy buy, things that they don't actually need to impress others and so on. What for?
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« Reply #10 on: June 7, 2012, 02:01:17 pm »
Totally... people start to buy buy buy buy, things that they don't actually need to impress others and so on. What for?
Isn't there a line like that in Fight Club? "They've got us working crap jobs to earn money we then spend on shit we don't need."?

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« Reply #11 on: June 7, 2012, 02:02:10 pm »
You can make a life without love, can you make a life without money?

Yes, i think you can.
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« Reply #12 on: June 7, 2012, 02:08:18 pm »
Money isn't important to me (in theory!) in that I don't crave flash cars, expensive gadgets, expensive clothes etc. I don't fritter it away on stuff I don't need and in answer to your question Carl I'd say I'm definitely not materialistic. However the well being of my family is my top priority these days so obviously, and unavoidably money is still an important factor with the pressures of a mortgage and all the expense of having two children.

By the way, I'm well aware I didn't have to take out a mortgage or have two kids and it was my choice to do so, so certainly not going to complain about it!

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« Reply #13 on: June 7, 2012, 02:10:30 pm »
Well backed up there Nick ;)
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« Reply #14 on: June 7, 2012, 02:26:50 pm »
This is a good thread, especially if you approach it in a certain manner. As has been touched upon, money has become an unaviodable and necessary evil. Try as you might, you pretty much need it. It's excruciating. Materialism has ruined once great nations and people in general. I'm no exception. As much as I abhor the negative influence of money, I still want certain things that are totally unecessary. I don't know when, but at some point, materialism and wealth became signifiers of fulfilment and happiness. I don't know how. Go to school. To Uni. Get qualifications. Get a job, earn money, buy a car, a house, have a wedding, go on holidays. These are people's main aims, but why? Does it anywhere in that 'list of life' say 'try and make yourself and others happy?' We're all stuck in this position, rampant commercialism and a system, that has allowed a new strain of personality to dictate people's lives, like some sort of strained, incestuous pyramid of influence. I would be perfectly happy if some 'event' happened that rendered money useless. Until then we get on with it.
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« Reply #15 on: June 7, 2012, 02:43:02 pm »
Your health is your wealth.

Dont get me wrong I'd have never come out with such shite a decade ago, but a few have died since then and many are just a shambles health wise, both young and old.

Whilst I am not adversed to a bit of coinage, as long as I have my health, I'm happy enough.
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« Reply #16 on: June 7, 2012, 02:47:15 pm »
"Try to make ends meet, you're a slave to money then you die."

Going places, seeing things, doing stuff, all things that make me happy and cost money.

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« Reply #17 on: June 7, 2012, 02:49:48 pm »
My Father grew up in Park Heights, Baltimore and had nothing growing up, he had moved house 14 times before the age of 8. He fended for himself from age 14 to 16, and kipped on park benches, in doorways, anywhere he could get some shelter. He'd offer help to people carrying home shopping, or anyone that needed assistance, in hope of being tossed a couple of dollars, and even when he did get a few dollars together, he was often mugged before the day was out, although that gradually stopped, as he became more aware of what was going on around him.

In the mid 70's he found himself in around Inner Harbor, where he found work and gradually his income increased and his life took an immeasurable turn for the better.

He lived those few years, with no love and no money. He wasn't interested in love, he wanted money, not because he was materialistic, but because it was what he needed to survive. Even though he eventually found the money, he has always said that he was never happy, until he met my ould one.

Learning about him growing up has taught me to appreciate money, but life has come to revolve too much, around money.

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« Reply #18 on: June 7, 2012, 02:51:13 pm »
I am only 25 but my Mum always said "health is more important than wealth" I always used to tell her to get real as the world revolves around money... in a way I was right BUT after having two open knee surgeries to fix torns patellar tendons I can say that I'd rather have a healthy body with no more issues till I meet my maker than be in an out of fancy hospitals that I can afford!!

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« Reply #19 on: June 7, 2012, 02:51:18 pm »
Sentimentality aside, better to have it than not have it.

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« Reply #20 on: June 7, 2012, 03:02:07 pm »
Love, family, and friends all trump money.

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« Reply #21 on: June 7, 2012, 03:03:18 pm »
My mum always says "people know the cost of everything but the value of nothing".For some people this is correct.Over the past 4 years i've worked myself into a position whereby i'm comfortable and don't have live from pay day to pay day and can honestly say that i'm not happy.I always tell people when they talk about touching big on the euromillions that i'd give a large chunk every year to Zoe's Place Baby Hospice and the number of negative responses i get is unbelievable.

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« Reply #22 on: June 7, 2012, 03:05:12 pm »
Would you be any more happy if you were broke though?

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« Reply #23 on: June 7, 2012, 03:15:47 pm »
The best things in life are free,,No doubt about it..
The times with your kids,laughing your arse off with them,watching them walk talk,etc etc...are the best of times and dont cost a penny.
The best of times are down the boozer,again laughing your arse off,with your mates,,costs a few quid for the beer..
The list could go on and on.th best times are those with your cherished friends and family,the moments in life that will remain with you forever,,bringing that smile to your face when your reminded of it.
Youll remember them more than spending a fortune on shit.
Ive got a small business and the mrs works part time and we do ok...The kids is all we really want whats best for.Theres not a whole lot more I could want really.
Got a car,,got a motorbike,,nice telly and all that shit but could easily do without,,bar the bike.....
We are a very materialistic world with the Jones' and the Smiths' kinda rivalry always going on.
It shouldnt be like that.
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« Reply #24 on: June 7, 2012, 03:17:52 pm »
Depends where you live really. If you can get free or fairly cheap good education, healthcare and basic provisions, not having a lot of money can be an option.

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« Reply #25 on: June 7, 2012, 03:18:20 pm »
The best things in life are free

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« Reply #26 on: June 7, 2012, 03:18:52 pm »
Depends where you live really. If you can get free or fairly cheap good education, healthcare and basic provisions, not having a lot of money can be an option.
You can cross the UK off that list fairly soon.

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« Reply #27 on: June 7, 2012, 03:20:16 pm »
Ooh, Luther.

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« Reply #28 on: June 7, 2012, 03:23:08 pm »
Really that important.

I think every such opinion/view should be within reason.

If you don't have enough money to do some basic things you want to do - then money becomes an issue/problem.
There are families out there who can't afford Christmas presents - that mut be a grim situation to be in.
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« Reply #30 on: June 7, 2012, 03:35:19 pm »
To say that money is better than love, friends etc. is right.

But at the same time they should go hand in hand, if your broke, living on the streets, then no your not going to be happy (I wouldn't be anyway) but at the same if your minted live in a lovely house with brand new motors, bikes, tvs etc. you'll be portrayed as an arse before people actually get to know you. Money can be the devils advocate, it can also be a great ally.. You just need to know how/when to use it.

I would like an even spread of money love and friends.. If I'm being totally honest, and I'd also like to believe that if by some miracle I win the lottery, it wouldn't change me.. I don't desire a huge house, fancy new cars or state of the art electronics.. They would be great to have but I could easily live without.
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« Reply #31 on: June 7, 2012, 03:36:52 pm »
I'm happy being comfortable. I have some very well off friends who are never happy.

Life would be better without money, get back to trading with basic skills, I'll paint your fence if you give me 5 apples *. One of the worst things the human race has invented, that and fences.



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« Reply #32 on: June 7, 2012, 03:41:30 pm »
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« Reply #33 on: June 7, 2012, 03:42:57 pm »
Money has become increasingly important to me over the last two years.  I started a business just over a year ago and I use my income as a measurement of my work related successes and I feel quite proud of every single penny that I earn.

Watching my earnings so closely has really made me appreciate the cost of things and, rightly or wrongly, I relate my outgoings to the difficulty of earning it.  I also genuinely enjoy saving money - I set myself savings targets, try to find bargains or haggling to get myself a good deal.  Its quite sad and the missus gets embarrassed by it at times, but it does give me a good feeling to save a bit of cash!

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« Reply #34 on: June 7, 2012, 03:43:28 pm »
Money has become increasingly important to me over the last two years.  I started a business just over a year ago and I use my income as a measurement of my work related successes and I feel quite proud of every single penny that I earn.

Watching my earnings so closely has really made me appreciate the cost of things and, rightly or wrongly, I relate my outgoings to the difficulty of earning it.  I also genuinely enjoy saving money - I set myself savings targets, try to find bargains or haggling to get myself a good deal.  Its quite sad and the missus gets embarrassed by it at times, but it does give me a good feeling to save a bit of cash!

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« Reply #35 on: June 7, 2012, 03:44:57 pm »
Having money is a lot nicer than not having any. Been broke and had money, I know which I prefer. It can't be a happy life not being able to pay bills. Might sound shallow but I would love to be really loaded.

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« Reply #36 on: June 7, 2012, 03:45:15 pm »
There are opportunity costs to having money. If you're doing something other than what you should be doing, just to get money, them you have to weigh up if the money you're getting is worth it. Because you're essentially living someone else's life.

But money of itself isn't bad. It gives you and your family more options. I think Christianity tried to teach us it was bad to keep us in our places, but as ends go it's pretty good, especially if you're happy with the means you use to get it.

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« Reply #37 on: June 7, 2012, 03:45:24 pm »
I think every such opinion/view should be within reason.

If you don't have enough money to do some basic things you want to do - then money becomes an issue/problem.
There are families out there who can't afford Christmas presents - that mut be a grim situation to be in.

Indeed, people are glossing over the struggles that poor people face, especially those with families. You can have the best wife and kids in the world but if you're stuck on the dole and living on a crime-ridden estate you'll have a lot of stress to deal with. You need enough money to live comfortably

As for me, like others as I've earned more I've taken on a bigger mortgage, had two kids in expensive daycare etc. so I've never actually felt more wealthy. I was better off financially back when I was earning half what I do now  :-\

That said I'm now in a nice house in a great neighbourhood that's big enough to last us forever. I just hate this ridiculously massive mortgage hanging round my neck for the next 27 years. It's a lifestyle of comfort that completely limits your options. Quit your job and go travelling for a year? No chance. Quit your job and start up your own business? Way too risky. Can the wife quit her job and spend a few years getting a masters degree, and do the (low-paying) job she's always wanted? No chance. Quite depressing when you think about it that way, but it's a good life, and it's ridiculous to complain about it.

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« Reply #38 on: June 7, 2012, 03:58:20 pm »


I agree with that bottom line.

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« Reply #39 on: June 7, 2012, 04:04:23 pm »
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