Author Topic: Alan Davies questions why Liverpool don't play on Hillsborough Anniversary (Read 69084 times)

Danyaals Kop · « **Reply #280 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:15:41 pm »

C*nt. Utter c*nt.

KiNki · « **Reply #281 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:15:45 pm »

Quote from: Always_A_Red on April 9, 2012, 08:09:39 pm

They dont give a shit mate! Its clear as day!

some dont and some never will, and worse some will try and make a career off the back of it, still we shouldnt let knobheads put us off trying to inform the more reasonable members of the public.

Arathrael · « **Reply #282 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:15:52 pm »

Quote from: Rhi on April 9, 2012, 07:58:28 pm

Backtracking like a motherfucker now, isn't he?

Well, yeah, but isn't that what we want him to do?

Not directed at you, Rhi, specifically, but if someone's been an insensitive moron (to put it mildly), you'd like them to realise it and apologise surely. I don't get this "you're a moron, but I'd respect you more if you carried on being a moron instead of backtracking" attitude.

Lady_brandybuck · « **Reply #283 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:16:15 pm »

Here is part of the so called podcast: http://soundcloud.com/anfieldroad/alandavieshillsborough

Now, it is completely insensitive from him to refer in such a way about why or why not we play on the date. As many have said previously, Liverpool FC has its reasons to conmemorate the date in the way they find more fitting for. Specially when you consider the tragedy and how it stills affects the families, friends of the victims and the city itself, and how they are still fighting for justice after 23 years. Yes, 23 years might be a lifetime, but it is still felt like it was not so long ago when people went to a football match and never returned. The fact that the team refuses to play on this date, maybe it is because Life is more important than a football match.

You don't need to be friends or family of the victims, not even to be from the city, or even born by the time to understand it, If you call yourself a supporter from this football club (no matter where are you from and what age are you old) you know about Hillsborough, and what it represents. And if you are not a supporter from this football club, at least you have common sense and respect our points of views about such a date, instead of spout vile about something so close to this team.

And Alan Davies can do one, he might have apologized already, but that doesn't mean he isn't a twat for what he said first.

Andy · « **Reply #284 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:17:04 pm »

Quote from: kiNki-Suarez on April 9, 2012, 08:15:45 pm

some dont and some never will, and worse some will try and make a career off the back of it, still we shouldnt let knobheads put us off trying to inform the more reasonable members of the public.

exactly, and maybe now we can use Davies to do this.

Keith Lard · « **Reply #285 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:18:29 pm »

Quote from: FlashingBlade on April 9, 2012, 08:13:59 pm

Sad thing is its another small incident that adds to the weight of prejudice against Liverpool fans and Scousers....though I must admit if I met him face to face....I would like to add weight to that prejudice.....not the 'self pity', 'thieving' prejudice......................the 'violent' one!!!

To be honest, I'm not particularly arsed about people not liking Liverpool, it's fans, scousers in general, etc. But generally twattish, loudmouthed comments relating to such a devastating event as Hillsborough does get my back up. But as I said previously, it's Alan fucking Davies so I choose not to get so bothered. Kelvin Mackenzie on the other hand ... now there's someone that really gets my blood boiling because I actually think there are people out there that take him seriously. Same with George Galoway when he insulted Kenny Dalglish recently.

givemekaliber · « **Reply #286 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:20:05 pm »

Quote from: jamie_c on April 9, 2012, 06:41:16 pm

I know I'm going to get shot down for having a different opinion here but I'm not sure he's done too much wrong.

Firstly he made the comments on an Arsenal podcast, I'm guessing none of us listen to it so in a way everyone has gone out of their way to be offended, reminds me a bit of the Russell Brand/Jonathan Ross scandal, very few people who listened were offended but the Daily Mail made sure plenty of people who did not listen got offended afterwards.

Secondly what has he said thats so bad?

That Liverpool should have to play on the anniversary ?

He's entitled to have that opinion just as much as the club is entitled not to play on that date, he's right that many other clubs do play on the anniversay of disasters. As it's a comedy podcast he's tried to make that point in a funny way, obviously no one here thinks it's funny but it's on an arsenal podcast and not aimed at liverpool fans. At no point does he laugh at the disaster or make any comment on it or who was to blame for it.

The comments on Dalgliesh are not offensive, and if you think they are just look at the names opposing managers are called on this forum, and there is no problems with whats he said about spurs either, calling your closest rivals vermin is fair game for a football fan.

This is the sort of thread that will get put on a Utd forum under the headline "always the victim", it's not a big deal so just ignore it...

Are you for fucking real?
No-one is arsed about offensive remarks to Kenny
No-one is arsed about what the fuck he/they think about any other team
I honestly cannot believe you have written that post
In fact, you are a prick

AndrewLFC_1971 · « **Reply #287 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:22:14 pm »

Alan Davies doesn't give a shit about the Justice Campaign, he doesn't give shit about our 96 and he doesn't give shit that he offended us, don't let some shitty backtracking on twitter convince you otherwise, he's a bellend.

Father Ted · « **Reply #288 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:23:20 pm »

He's entitled to his opinion, but he's wrong. And grossly insensitive to boot.

Keith Lard · « **Reply #289 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:24:09 pm »

Quote from: givemeguinness on April 9, 2012, 08:20:05 pm

Are you for fucking real?
No-one is arsed about offensive remarks to Kenny
No-one is arsed about what the fuck he/they think about any other team
I honestly cannot believe you have written that post
In fact, you are a prick

Like it or not, Jamie is entitled to his opinion. He didn't insult anyone on here when he made his post so there's no need to call him a prick. He's stating his opinion in the context that if we give someone like Alan Davies too much attention then it perpetuates the viewpoint that we always act like the victim. I don't agree with him, but give the guy a break.

givemekaliber · « **Reply #290 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:27:45 pm »

Quote from: vishy01234 on April 9, 2012, 08:24:09 pm

Like it or not, Jamie is entitled to his opinion. He didn't insult anyone on here when he made his post so there's no need to call him a prick. He's stating his opinion in the context that if we give someone like Alan Davies too much attention then it perpetuates the viewpoint that we always act like the victim. I don't agree with him, but give the guy a break.

I appreciate your comment and understand it but that sort of comment he made just stinks of a wind up and him not understanding what that day means. How can he say what he said and not realise that that day crippled the club? That day doesn't exist in my calender and never will
I will apologise for calling him a prick but he needs to think about what he wrote

Raymondo · « **Reply #291 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:29:06 pm »

Quote from: Fat Scouser on April 9, 2012, 08:07:31 pm

He should also remember that Arsenal played in Heysel the season, or maybe it was 2, before us, and they warned us that it was a disaster waiting to happen.

The man is an utter gobshite without doubt, but that's not really the point. He's a gobshite with a public platform. He's probably too thick and arrogant to even consider what damage his comments can cause. But you know one thing... the only regret he's got for making them are of the self preservation kind.

Honestly, what has that got to do with anything?

Lady_brandybuck · « **Reply #292 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:32:09 pm »

For those who question why the majority questions Alan Davies rant, you can have a read of this www.hfdinfo.com It will help you a bit about why we don't play on the day, what actually happened on the day, and well basically a bit of Liverpool FC history doesn't hurt our fans

Feel free to send a link to Alan Davies too, it's always important to educate others, no matter how moronic their views can be.

Mouth · « **Reply #293 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:32:13 pm »

Quote from: Rhi on April 9, 2012, 08:23:06 pm

I know what you're saying, but he's not accepting that what he said was wrong. He's just backtracking and trying to make out like he did nothing wrong all along, and we're all over-reacting. Which is bollocks.

Actually, just checked, he has apologised now. But to start with he hadn't, he just kept trying to make out like it wasn't what it seemed. That's what I objected to. I don't object to someone holding their hands up and admitting they made a bad call on something. Especially on this. But he has been very fucking stupid, and I do think it has taken a monumental backlash against him to force his hand into apologising.

I'd have a bit more respect for him if he didnt bother making mealy mouthed apologies he doesnt really mean, what he said was how he really feels, he is just embarrassed because he is getting a lot of stick for it. Its sad for someone who claims to be socialist leaning and 'right on' to be so blinkered and bigotted. Reckons Billy Bragg is a hero of his an all, well Alan I wonder if Mr Bragg would share your views on this issue.

Outer Mongolian Red · « **Reply #294 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:33:23 pm »

I see its been picked up by a few papers so he got the publicity he wanted.I bet that podcast got record hits this week.

Fat Scouser · « **Reply #295 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:33:30 pm »

Quote from: Raymondo on April 9, 2012, 08:29:06 pm

Honestly, what has that got to do with anything?

He mentioned Heysel in the same breath. He's a gooner. Don't kick me off lad, I'm in no mood for you.

DutchRed · « **Reply #296 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:34:27 pm »

This thread should be closed.

He's a c*nt and deserves no further attention.

-Q- · « **Reply #297 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:35:07 pm »

Quote from: Lady_Brandybuck on April 9, 2012, 08:32:09 pm

For those who question why the majority questions Alan Davies rant, you can have a read of this http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=201553.msg3604478#msg3604478 It will help you a bit about why we don't play on the day, what actually happened on the day, and well basically a bit of Liverpool FC history doesn't hurt our fans

Feel free to send a link to Alan Davies too, it's always important to educate others, no matter how moronic their views can be.

Very good point. Hope someone can get it to him, he reads it and apologises - that will do a lot more for our cause than abuse.

Andy · « **Reply #298 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:35:17 pm »

Quote from: Outer Mongolian Red on April 9, 2012, 08:33:23 pm

I see its been picked up by a few papers so he got the publicity he wanted.I bet that podcast got record hits this week.

like i keep saying, maybe the Justice Campaign take advantage of this....

john_mac · « **Reply #299 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:35:24 pm »

Alan Davies scheduled on Liverpool Empire September

kennedy81 · « **Reply #300 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:35:31 pm »

Quote from: vishy01234 on April 9, 2012, 08:24:09 pm

Like it or not, Jamie is entitled to his opinion. He didn't insult anyone on here when he made his post so there's no need to call him a prick. He's stating his opinion in the context that if we give someone like Alan Davies too much attention then it perpetuates the viewpoint that we always act like the victim. I don't agree with him, but give the guy a break.

If people agree with Davies or feel that he his entitled to his opinion, then they would be best advised to keep that to themselves and not try to defend him on a Liverpool forum, where people are bound to be justifiably upset by it.
What Davies said was disrespectful and inconsiderate, there's no two ways about it, and he deserves to be slammed for it.
So why even make a debate about it?
It's just insensitive and insulting to people who were affected by the tragedy.
Jamie is a muppet for posting that, and his post was insulting, whether you agree with him or not is irrelevant.

KiNki · « **Reply #301 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:36:11 pm »

no gigg dates for the 22nd august.

Fat Scouser · « **Reply #302 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:36:42 pm »

Quote from: Mouth on April 9, 2012, 08:32:13 pm

Reckons Billy Bragg is a hero of his an all, well Alan I wonder if Mr Bragg would share your views on this issue.

I was going to mention that meself. He's an absolute gobshite. He's a gooner. He goes on about Heysel in the same context as Hillsborough. He doesn't even seem to know that Arsenal warned us about the state of that stadium. And anyone fancy pulling me on that comment, do it in private.

theboyspen · « **Reply #303 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:37:24 pm »

apology = insincere! This curly headed twat has always had it in for scousers. It's not his first snidey jab he's made but it's the one that's pushed his luck too far this time. Hope proper Arsenal/footy fans round on him good sttyle.

-HH- · « **Reply #304 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:38:00 pm »

Quote from: Father Ted on April 9, 2012, 08:23:20 pm

He's entitled to his opinion, but he's wrong. And grossly insensitive to boot.

Actually, I don't believe he is. On something like this the ONLY view that matters is the view of those affected by the tragedy. Alan Davies has no reason to be venturing an opinion either way on the subject.

Andy · « **Reply #305 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:41:32 pm »

Quote from: -HH- on April 9, 2012, 08:38:00 pm

Actually, I don't believe he is. On something like this the ONLY view that matters is the view of those affected by the tragedy. Alan Davies has no reason to be venturing an opinion either way on the subject.

unfortunately you can't stop people having opinions, or voicing them.

it is our job to inform them why they are wrong (in a productive way rather than just ranting/swearing).

Snail · « **Reply #306 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:42:17 pm »

Quote from: -HH- on April 9, 2012, 08:38:00 pm

Actually, I don't believe he is. On something like this the ONLY view that matters is the view of those affected by the tragedy. Alan Davies has no reason to be venturing an opinion either way on the subject.

Absolutely.

helmboy_nige · « **Reply #307 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:42:21 pm »

Guys a cock. His comments about Tottenham were a disgrace as well.

It's Jimmy Corkhill · « **Reply #308 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:43:34 pm »

Middle-class, unfunny, Tory Cockney c*nt.

Fruity · « **Reply #309 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:44:14 pm »

Quote from: Siannn. on April 9, 2012, 03:59:27 pm

Lol, no.

Couldn't agree more. I don't understand how some people get the comedian label. He will never be funny. As for his comments they are just in poor taste and show no compassion to those involved.

It's Jimmy Corkhill · « **Reply #310 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:44:37 pm »

Quote from: Father Ted on April 9, 2012, 08:23:20 pm

He's entitled to his opinion, but he's wrong. And grossly insensitive to boot.

No he isn't.

It has fuck all to do with him. He should keep his trap shut.

gkmacca · « **Reply #311 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:50:25 pm »

MacKenzie, Steve Cohen, Paddy Barclay, Alan Davies - they all happily insult the city, the people and the club and its fans, provoke a huge angry reaction as a consequence, and then go and depict it as merely another case of frenzied fans attacking them. It's sad that so many outsiders fail to realise what's really happening.

NealFrom25Yards · « **Reply #312 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:55:06 pm »

Quote from: Andy on April 9, 2012, 08:41:32 pm

our job to inform them why they are wrong (in a productive way rather than just ranting/swearing).

I agree with this, and think it's important to highlight. Educate him. He's wrong. Don't allow yourself to be dragged down to his level by making equally stupid comments. I see people threatening him and abusing his family on Twitter and I just shake my head.

BUSHMILLS · « **Reply #313 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:55:53 pm »

That would have been great wouldn't it? Cancelling a Hillsborough memorial service that's already been planned, with the relatives having made arrangements and all, so we can play a match. Not just any match, mind you.....but an FA Cup Semi Final.

Yep, he's made a knob of himself - and judging by how quickly he's backtracked, I suspect he realises it.

Kwaideng · « **Reply #314 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:59:20 pm »

Quote from: kiNki-Suarez on April 9, 2012, 08:36:11 pm

no gigg dates for the 22nd august.

Mothers Day? Giggity......

m4Rco · « **Reply #315 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:59:43 pm »

Horrible attentionseeking c*nt.

Fat Scouser · « **Reply #316 on:** April 9, 2012, 08:59:57 pm »

Quote from: NealFrom25Yards on April 9, 2012, 08:55:06 pm

I agree with this, and think it's important to highlight. Educate him. He's wrong. Don't allow yourself to be dragged down to his level by making equally stupid comments. I see people threatening him and abusing his family on Twitter and I just shake my head.

I agree. These idiots do a lot of damage. But it still doesn't excuse a public figure for making crass and ignorant statements like that. But you're right... he'll play the victim now while calling us the victim minded whingers of self pity city. We can't control that though, so let's not give him the excuse of playing the victim because some idiots carry on like that.

gkmacca · « **Reply #317 on:** April 9, 2012, 09:01:27 pm »

All the papers are covering it. I wonder how long Patrick Barclay will take to write an article in support of the buffoon.

Paragon · « **Reply #318 on:** April 9, 2012, 09:03:29 pm »

He should stick to Hotel Babylon.

Kwaideng · « **Reply #319 on:** April 9, 2012, 09:05:12 pm »

Parrotfaced twat........