Topic: Man City 3-0 Liverpool: Full time......

[NornIron!!]

When was the last time a Liverpool player broke away from the line of defence? All we do is sit with the ball in front of their penalty area. Downing, really the less said the better, he's supposed to be a winger but he's the prime culprit for this by constantly turning back on himself. How many times did someone look for the cross to Carroll when he was the ONLY red shirt in their box, appalling attacking football.

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

Hopefully John Henry realizes that he needs to dig deep into his pockets in January if he really wants this club to be profitable and self sustained in the next season, otherwise we'll generate the same money plus probably the Europa League money. We need 2-3 players who can improve our squad in Jan.

[Billy The Kid]

It was always going to be a big ask for us to get a win at City's place. Regardless, all three goals were down to our silly mistakes, and that is bloody frustrating.

The corners were mistakes, no doubt about that.

No way the 3rd was a peno IMO

[OneTouchFooty]

Toothless in front of goal, crossing is fucking abysmal and Carroll can't be expected to do it all against 2 defenders for the next 8 games.

[worthers]

Decent performance away to the team at the top of the league, unfortunately mistakes cost us. Lacking a bit of cutting edge but some positives to be taken.

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This. Though tho 'lack of cutting edge' is becoming a common theme. I.e. play well with decent buildup play, then puff - nothing to show for it. It would be much worse if we were losing playing like we were 12 months ago. 

[Darth Red]

I'm almost convinced that Kompany counts as two defenders now.

He was fantastic

[Juan Loco]

If I was showing a bit of bias I'd say it could've been a draw. If I'm being honest I thought they deserved to win due to them being extremely clinical. Never a 3-0 for me.

I said yesterday, I thought the whole game tonight was a bonus. It's our toughest match of the season (along with United Away due to the permanent spawny nature of that club). It's out of the way. We're 3 points off 4th with a game under half the season to go. All our big games bar United are at Anfield. It's pretty much in our own hands.

[NornIron!!]

Jose Enrique though, fantastic, well done lad

[StanBull]

 

To be fair , we might be better off without you more.

This.

[Gazza-LFC]

Also I hate to say it but is Dirk worth his place in the squad let alone the starting line up? Would honestly love some opinions on this.

[BurstingTheNet]

This thread is ridiculous, so much over the top bollocks spouted.

This.

I think Downing's quite a good player, so is Adam, so is Carroll. Not fantastic, but pretty good. With a few more fantastic players they'll begin to look better.

[walshys_mullet]

Love the way an Andy Carroll thread is immediately set up to tell us how shit he is and how he needs to be sold. Stuart Downing was a far bigger waste of money in my opinion.  Saying that Carroll offered nothing and that he needs to be sold ASAP. He offered nothing because our so called "wingers" (bar Bellamy) can't cross for shit. There was nothing anywhere near him today, he was all over the show trying to get on the end of things to no avail. I will say that sometime his movement isn't the greatest but when you're paid 100 grand a week you should be able to put the ball into the fucking box, doesn't even have to be to his head, just put it into a dangerous area and if he's not there then it's his fault and we can blame him.90% of them crosses either didn't beat the first man or were 6 foot over his head.  I said it in the pregame thread, it will be useless playing 1 up top against city, especially someone like Andy Carroll who came up against solid defenders with better heading ability than he has. the lad didn't have a chance. I thought when he did have a sniff of the ball he didn't do too badly

Not having that. The service isn't always up to scratch but what I witnessed tonight was lack of movement, lack of fight, lack of heart and lack of will. At Newcastle he put himself about. Here he saunters about. He didn't even try to make life difficult for kompany.

Very, very poor.

[SadRed]

City could have started with 10 men and beat us. We have absolutely no quality in the team. A bunch of average players. No technical quality whatsoever.

[maqu006]

Downing is doing my head in. When exactly will he actually produce a performance worthy of a Liverpool player who starts almost every game? At almost 28, as an attacking wide player who relies on pace, he's not going to get any better. To think that Mata went for roughly the same price. Poor signing, like Carroll. Adam at least cost peanuts.

[Sat1]

Line up suggested draw at best. We actually played some good football, especially with the likes of downing, kuyt and Carroll on the same side.

I got a warning for my opinion on downing so can't say much apart from I'd rather have today's heskey doing sweet fa on the wing.

[BRdispatch05]

All I can say is Manchester City can finish with what few chances are given to them, we don't seem to have many problems creating but cannot finish. Had a feeling with our starting line-up there was no way we would get on the scoresheet, was surprised but didn't we think we would concede more than one, if any. Put in a good effort today but, like a broken record, we need someone who can finish.

[steveeastend]

Pretty sure nobody expects a Ferrari.

Besides, this isn't the type of game that will decide the season.

Home against bottom half teams will.

we were always odds on to lose this game, so the hysteria over the result needs to stop.

City are title contenders and proved it with this performance. We aren't, and that's been true for some months now.

roll on the next game.

I know.
I just wanted to point out that our tactics, the way Kenny has the players play is outstanding. But a lot of those players are not. And that´s why we suffer.

I wrote in summer that as soon as Lucas and Suarez will be out we will become serious problems cause then there is no top quality left in midfield and attack. And that´s what it is. Not more, not less.

We will still win more games than we loose. But again, just like in summer, it has to be pointed out that our transfers were not making us any stronger when it comes to our first eleven. And Kenny has to put it right in january, otherwise it will be a disappointing rest of the season.

[danno08]

3-0 that should have been 0-0. Can't really legislate for a terrible mistake, poor marking from a set piece and a shocking penalty decision.

[istanbulism]

Rafa would have done a lot more with the money than Kenny did. But lets not get into that debate.

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[Skagen]

We could have played another 45 min and we still would'nt have scored.

[Veinticinco de Mayo]

If I was showing a bit of bias I'd say it could've been a draw. If I'm being honest I thought they deserved to win due to them being extremely clinical. Never a 3-0 for me.

I said yesterday, I thought the whole game tonight was a bonus. It's our toughest match of the season (along with United Away due to the permanent spawny nature of that club). It's out of the way. We're 3 points off 4th with a game under half the season to go. All our big games bar United are at Anfield. It's pretty much in our own hands.

Juan, don't go showing perspective in the post match kneejerkarium lad, you'll be booted out.

[walshys_mullet]

Toothless in front of goal, crossing is fucking abysmal and Carroll can't be expected to do it all against 2 defenders for the next 8 games.

He's a hulking beast of a man!

[harrylfc]

This.

I think Downing's quite a good player, so is Adam, so is Carroll. Not fantastic, but pretty good. With a few more fantastic players they'll begin to look better.

Were Liverpool Fc...pretty good aint good enough..

[Juan Loco]

The corners were mistakes, no doubt about that.

No way the 3rd was a peno IMO

Failing to track Toure, or the defenders to read his run was though. Not a huge one though,

Toure, for me, only got into the match - in open play - once Spearing went off. At least as an attacking threat.

[RyanBabel19]

Tired of saying the same thing every week, and its been the same way for years now. What do you even say when the same things happen over and over and over and fucking over ?

Think we are a longggggg way from even challenging for the title let alone winning it, don't even think our squad is very strong personally. So irritating to see us play well then fall short with the same shit problems we've had in the side for years now. Dont understand what is so complex about targetting a quick tricky wideman and spending what it takes to bring him in rather than buying shit winger after shit winger and thinking they will solve anything. We make it look like rocket science to sign the players that make the difference and im sick to death of seeing players who aren't good enough to represent this club wearing our shirt and bottling it when we need them to be running through brick walls for the side. Sell a certain type of player bring someone atleast as good in to replace him when you have money to spend or you will pay for it.

I love liverpool but my god are we frustrating.

[jaffod]

Hopefully John Henry realizes that he needs to dig deep into his pockets in January if he really wants this club to be profitable and self sustained in the next season, otherwise we'll generate the same money plus probably the Europa League money. We need 2-3 players who can improve our squad in Jan.

If I was John Henry I wouldn't give a bean in January.

[Butter Keks]

Downing is doing my head in. When exactly will he actually produce a performance worthy of a Liverpool player who starts almost every game? At almost 28, as an attacking wide player who relies on pace, he's not going to get any better. To think that Mata went for roughly the same price. Poor signing, like Carroll. Adam at least cost peanuts.

Here we go! and people wonder why so many topics are locked.

[muffins]

Frustrating, slow (and not just because of the weather), unlucky, etc. etc. etc.

Downing and Adam poor.

Henderson slightly better.

We need a striker during January pronto.

[MBL?]

The excuses on sky and on here for Carroll make me cringe. He doesn't get himself involved at all, even when he is in a good position he doesn't look bothered.

[smicer07]

To keep positive, the only real concern for me is the attacking mid/striker area. Defence is good and Henderson is looking good, it's just the wide midfielders and strikers who need to buck their ideas up. We have the basis of a great team, it just needs tweaking IMO.

[Redeo]

how the fuck we lost 3-0 is beyond me. I hope I'm not the only one who thought we were possibly the better team.

the notion of being the better team while losing is bs.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

The score is irrelevant.

The club backing down and leaving one of our players we promised to back hanging in the wind is.

[RK7]

he's been terrible all season, he's scared to run at the defender, he even received the ball in city's box near the end and instead of running at clichy he turned 180 degrees and passed it back to johnson, if he cant run at a player in their box he never will,

to me he looks like he doesnt even like football, looks like he's scared shitless of trying to do anything other than pass it backwards, he has to be dropped because its getting embarrassing,

Who for? I agree that he is poor but without him we would have zero pace in the team.

[tommy LFC]

It's hard watching Dirk lately. It's like watching your favourite pet get older and older and you know what must happen.

[peelyon]

How is Carroll supposed to do anything with the service he was given tonight? 

[Ste08]

Defence and keeper error strewn. Zero cutting edge. Night to forget. That £55m looks more and more ridiculous by the game. 

[Live in the Now]

This.

I think Downing's quite a good player, so is Adam, so is Carroll. Not fantastic, but pretty good. With a few more fantastic players they'll begin to look better.

With a few more fantastic players where are you going to put that lot?

The loss isn't harmful in the end, still three points back and only one difficult away with 18 league matches to go. If you'd told me we'd be there at the beginning of the season I'd be okay with it.

[Filler.]

Genuinely don't think 3-0 was a fair result on play. Thought both teams failed to excite really, but we were just a little bit more phenomenally shitter than they were.

Starting to really wonder about Henderson and Downing. Not scapegoating - it wasn't their fault etc blah, but my god. What are they doing?

[astowell1]

This.

I think Downing's quite a good player, so is Adam, so is Carroll. Not fantastic, but pretty good. With a few more fantastic players they'll begin to look better.

I'm sick to the back teeth of "pretty good" players...

[KUNGFUDANCER]

gerrard, maxi and bellamy should have started the match. result would have been different. city weren't that good