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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8200 on: December 25, 2011, 02:30:48 am »
I'm talking about thick people.

I've met some great people down South that are friendly when I tell them I live in Liverpool.

And I've met plenty of fuckwits that are abusive, bigoted and unfair.

I wasn't saying everyone in the country hates Liverpool. But there are a fair few that believes the lies told about the people and the  City.

Oh I know that Andy.  The shit that gets thrown about the city really pisses me off.   Love the place to bits. 
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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8201 on: December 25, 2011, 02:32:39 am »
or maybe he's really Andy@Altringham and its here he's double agenting?

Hahahaha!  Awaits Andy's reply :)
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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8202 on: December 25, 2011, 02:33:33 am »
Hahahaha!  Awaits Andy's reply :)

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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8203 on: December 25, 2011, 02:55:20 am »
You would be amazed at who I am on Red Cafe. They actually love me there :)
Remember that video on youtube about the rigged skysports poll, found this gem of a comment on it

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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8204 on: December 25, 2011, 03:56:47 am »
PFA Chief Executive Gordon Taylor said: “As many youngsters look up to footballers we need to show leadership in important areas such as road safety. By partnering with BSM we have an opportunity to ensure that all our members have the very best driver training.  We can also set an example for others to take road safety and responsible driving sensibly.”

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Footballers' trade union boss Gordon Taylor has been cleared of failing to provide police details after two alleged speeding offences.

The chief executive of the Professional Footballers' Association (PFA) did not attend Manchester Magistrates Court.

His lawyer Nick Freeman argued "typographical" errors on police papers meant Mr Taylor had to be cleared.

The court heard a PFA registered Jaguar car was twice caught driving faster than the 30mph limit in Lancashire.

'Wrong address'
 
The car, registered to the PFA offices in Manchester, was caught by a speed camera doing 36mph on 25 November 2010, and then caught travelling at 43mph on 11 December 2010, both at Osbaldeston, near Blackburn in Lancashire.

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 But Mr Freeman, the celebrity lawyer known as "Mr Loophole", argued that when the Lancashire Police speed ticket office issued letters asking for the driver's details they made a series of errors.

He said the Jaguar car was registered to the PFA at its offices at 20 Oxford Court in Manchester but the Notice of Intended Prosecution letter, and a reminder, were both sent to number 30 - which does not exist.

Mr Freeman, whose office is in the same street in central Manchester as the PFA, asked for, and was granted, undisclosed costs to pay for the defence case out of taxpayer funds.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-16292670

£1million salary a year not enough for this hypocrite.

 

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« Reply #8205 on: December 25, 2011, 04:31:55 am »
By the way, does anyone else think that we've seriously engendered support in Latin America with our staunch defense of Suarez? I wouldn't be surprised if this pushed a few South/Central American players just over the edge into deciding to join us in the future. In fact I'd say that's true to a lesser extent for the rest of the non-anglophone world as well.

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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8206 on: December 25, 2011, 04:38:21 am »
By the way, does anyone else think that we've seriously engendered support in Latin America with our staunch defense of Suarez? I wouldn't be surprised if this pushed a few South/Central American players just over the edge into deciding to join us in the future. In fact I'd say that's true to a lesser extent for the rest of the non-anglophone world as well.

Quite possibly. But I think a lot of players in South America are looking for that big break from their leagues and the majority would love a move to Europe in any case.

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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8207 on: December 25, 2011, 05:15:36 am »


I think our club needs to look beyond this, we have been stitched up. I think we need to swallow the ban, and then be aggressive in defending Luis, even to the extent of calling out the FA for their piece of shit evidential stitch up process, and naming names of journalists who slided with it, and calling out Evra in specific and very palpable terms, including if necessary positive calls for him to be prosecuted by the FA if (I repeat only IF) it is the case he ethnically abused Luis, and also, I want the official LFC site to reference Alex Ferguson and his defence of Schmeicel post Ian Wright racism incident as a counterpoint.

What are they going to do? Fine us? Good, pay the fine then repeat the statements. Lets use our clout to use our gutting knife to cut under their skin. Lets give them a fight if thats what they want.

At the same time, I want our club to quadruple its commitment to anti-racism in all forms, and I want us to make any media outlet that slanders Luis as a racist to pay for it. And I want to force the FA to make public statements saying that Luis is not a racist and if they don't do so I want to take them to law to force them to do so. And I want Gordon Taylor and the PFA to make public statements in defence of Luis, and to condemn any abuse from anyone and any fans that slander him as such - if they fail to do so I want LFC to take them to court and sue them for failing to discharge their duty of care to their own union member, Luis. Lets hold them to account.

Finally, I want the club to be pro-active in terms of online accusations against Luis. Any blogger, tweeter or anyone who calls him a racist, they need to get a letter from our lawyers - no mercy. And last but not least, i want the club to go overtime in all campaigns against racism in all its forms - whether at the match, or online.

Enough is enough. Lets prepare for the next stage. There are more than one ways to skin a cat.



I agree with this. A taste of their own medicine. Guess Henry and Co. need to use their media savvy ways here.
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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8208 on: December 25, 2011, 06:44:13 am »
Are they conspiring to embarrass Blatter and FIFA then?

What Blatter said was very passive about racism and whilst I understand what he's getting at, the FIFA main chap really should have thought it out and executed his words better.

If the FA are using this case as an opportunity to take a pot shot at FIFA then fook me, they are on thin ice. It can work against us if the case goes against us and FIFA wish to express support for anti-racism but imagine the FA's position on this if we take them to court and win?

FIFA and UEFA will be in a prime position to slaughter the FA if the laws of the country have found a man not guilty of something that the FA's Kangaroo Court have previously found him guilty for. I'm sure Blatter and Platini would not pass up on such an opportune moment.

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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8209 on: December 25, 2011, 08:40:15 am »
From Rod Liddle at the Times.

The Uruguyans, squirming with embarrassment, have insisted they have nothing against the United Kingdom, but a lot in favour of Argentina, hence their vote for the embargo. I can’t think of anything useful or even interesting to have come out of Uruguay, which we might boycott in return. It is just a large river and some fields of maize. There’s the rat-faced racist footballer Luis Suarez, of course, who plays for Liverpool — perhaps the Football Association was getting its retaliation in early by banning him for eight games.
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« Reply #8210 on: December 25, 2011, 09:04:17 am »
From Rod Liddle at the Times.

The Uruguyans, squirming with embarrassment, have insisted they have nothing against the United Kingdom, but a lot in favour of Argentina, hence their vote for the embargo. I can’t think of anything useful or even interesting to have come out of Uruguay, which we might boycott in return. It is just a large river and some fields of maize. There’s the rat-faced racist footballer Luis Suarez, of course, who plays for Liverpool — perhaps the Football Association was getting its retaliation in early by banning him for eight games.

OMG that is just.... scandalous. I have no fucking words left.

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« Reply #8211 on: December 25, 2011, 09:04:49 am »
From Rod Liddle at the Times.

The Uruguyans, squirming with embarrassment, have insisted they have nothing against the United Kingdom, but a lot in favour of Argentina, hence their vote for the embargo. I can’t think of anything useful or even interesting to have come out of Uruguay, which we might boycott in return. It is just a large river and some fields of maize. There’s the rat-faced racist footballer Luis Suarez, of course, who plays for Liverpool — perhaps the Football Association was getting its retaliation in early by banning him for eight games.
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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8212 on: December 25, 2011, 09:08:58 am »
From Rod Liddle at the Times.

The Uruguyans, squirming with embarrassment, have insisted they have nothing against the United Kingdom, but a lot in favour of Argentina, hence their vote for the embargo. I can’t think of anything useful or even interesting to have come out of Uruguay, which we might boycott in return. It is just a large river and some fields of maize. There’s the rat-faced racist footballer Luis Suarez, of course, who plays for Liverpool — perhaps the Football Association was getting its retaliation in early by banning him for eight games.

Wtf is that?
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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8213 on: December 25, 2011, 09:10:31 am »
What is that tripe?

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« Reply #8214 on: December 25, 2011, 09:15:08 am »
From Rod Liddle at the Times.

The Uruguyans, squirming with embarrassment, have insisted they have nothing against the United Kingdom, but a lot in favour of Argentina, hence their vote for the embargo. I can’t think of anything useful or even interesting to have come out of Uruguay, which we might boycott in return. It is just a large river and some fields of maize. There’s the rat-faced racist footballer Luis Suarez, of course, who plays for Liverpool — perhaps the Football Association was getting its retaliation in early by banning him for eight games.

That's not actually real is it?

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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8215 on: December 25, 2011, 09:16:23 am »
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Liddle

"The overwhelming majority of street crime, knife crime, gun crime, robbery and crimes of sexual violence in London is carried out by young men from the African-Caribbean community. Of course, in return, we have rap music, goat curry and a far more vibrant and diverse understanding of cultures which were once alien to us. For which, many thanks."

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« Reply #8216 on: December 25, 2011, 09:17:07 am »
From Rod Liddle at the Times.

The Uruguyans, squirming with embarrassment, have insisted they have nothing against the United Kingdom, but a lot in favour of Argentina, hence their vote for the embargo. I can’t think of anything useful or even interesting to have come out of Uruguay, which we might boycott in return. It is just a large river and some fields of maize. There’s the rat-faced racist footballer Luis Suarez, of course, who plays for Liverpool — perhaps the Football Association was getting its retaliation in early by banning him for eight games.

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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8217 on: December 25, 2011, 09:23:01 am »
Is that for real????
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« Reply #8218 on: December 25, 2011, 09:23:28 am »
From Rod Liddle at the Times.

The Uruguyans, squirming with embarrassment, have insisted they have nothing against the United Kingdom, but a lot in favour of Argentina, hence their vote for the embargo. I can’t think of anything useful or even interesting to have come out of Uruguay, which we might boycott in return. It is just a large river and some fields of maize. There’s the rat-faced racist footballer Luis Suarez, of course, who plays for Liverpool — perhaps the Football Association was getting its retaliation in early by banning him for eight games.
Doesn't surprise me at all. And to think he was close to becoming the editor of the Independent.
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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8219 on: December 25, 2011, 09:27:45 am »
Surely he cant get away with that.

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« Reply #8220 on: December 25, 2011, 09:29:44 am »
Retreating into tribal warfare
Suarez controversy highlights lack of rational thinking in Premier League, writes Dion Fanning

The debate surrounding Luis Suarez's eight-match ban last week was conducted with all the reason and detachment two toddlers might use to catch their mother's attention.

There were few who considered the idea that the best way to respond to hysteria was with rational argument. If one side was shrieking "Racist!" at Luis Suarez, the other had to scream louder, deny everything, point out, with unintended comic consequences, the many historic reasons why Suarez could not be a racist and attack the other side with corresponding viciousness.

What happened at Anfield in October became tribal a long time ago. When the sentence was announced, unfortunately among those dealing in the most primitive arguments was Liverpool Football Club itself.

There were many reasons for Liverpool to be aggrieved by the English FA's ban. It was clearly designed as a piece of posturing and grandstanding, an attempt to announce to those observing in FIFA and UEFA that English football possesses a moral core they suspect is absent in those authorities.

Suarez's ban was also clearly designed to be reduced on appeal. Liverpool's response may have made that reduction less likely.

The "ecstasy of sanctimony" was rampant. Alan Hansen referred to 'coloured' players on Match of the Day and people called for his sacking, instead of simply reminding him that it is a term which most black people consider offensive.

Many of those who said this shouldn't become a tribal matter, that this was a matter of right versus wrong, were those who felt confident they had right on their side. It's easy to make something a moral issue when you feel you have some moral superiority.

Liverpool summoned righteousness without any of these advantages. Suarez was not a racist, they said and suggested that he was being persecuted. In ludicrously charging him for an obscene gesture and allowing defenders to kick him, the authorities are certainly showing little interest in protecting him. With the Evra incident, however, there was a case to answer.

From the beginning, Liverpool behaved oddly. The call that Evra should be punished if Suarez was found not guilty betrayed their private view that Evra was a troublemaker. In the end, this was also their caustic public view.

Perhaps it was their hostility to Evra that stopped them making a more conciliatory public gesture at the outset.

Suarez had always admitted saying something. He could have held to the view that he didn't consider what he said to have any racial undertones but apologised if Evra was offended. Instead they engaged in extreme denial. It's reasonable to suggest that Suarez exploited the ambiguity of the word he used, knowing it would infuriate Evra and thinking he could get away with it. It's also reasonable to suggest the exact opposite.

The most curious aspect of this case was that Suarez decided to give a version of the truth. People in football, as in politics, say they want the truth. They want straight answers from politicians and they want players not to dive.

If a politician says something resembling the truth, he is usually forced to apologise; if a player doesn't dive, he doesn't get a penalty.

Suarez effectively became the witness for the prosecution when he admitted he had used a word, although which word still remains unknown.

It was a sophisticated position but one which doesn't necessarily mean he's innocent.

Of course, nuance doesn't exist in football. When the judgment was finally announced, Suarez was dubbed a racist by some newspapers. Liverpool insisted he was not a racist and turned it into a pantomime.

Kenny Dalglish has command of his supporters like no other manager in the Premier League but last week, he didn't lead, he turned to the cold comfort of the hardcore support and retreated from sense and good judgment.

Suarez hadn't been charged with racism and was not found guilty of it, as Liverpool pointed out. Few wanted to accept a complex argument that you could say something grossly offensive, something you shouldn't, which referred to the racial origin of a player, and not necessarily spend your spare time walking around with bed sheets over your head while burning crosses. Liverpool could have accepted that Suarez made a mistake, a mistake based on cultural differences, appealed the severity of the ban and offered their full backing for a player who they could insist, with justification, was not a racist.

But they got caught up in the same hysteria that led to the eight-game ban. They made clumsy and imprecise allegations towards Evra which didn't advance their cause, they managed to create a sense that their view was preposterous and, most importantly, they lost.

They lost for many reasons. The FA wanted zero tolerance for any type of racist abuse.

Zero tolerance in any area of crime and punishment is ineffective. Zero tolerance denies any room for mitigating circumstance. It is a form of totalitarianism and the result is usually the hysteria from all sides we saw last week. This message was addressed only in part to racists.

It was essentially directed at English football's enemies. The English game might be full of spivs, charlatans and people on the make; it may have been the engine for the worst type of unregulated capitalism, but in treating racism it has been a success.

Can you imagine a more successful model of perfect integration than footballers in the Premier League? It is a template to which society in general can only aspire. Racism is not a major problem in English football. The Premier League broke down borders a long time ago. Its global popularity ensures that the only question, as Arsene Wenger pointed out, asked of a footballer is 'Can he play?'

Wenger also suggested that there were times on a football field when a player isn't politically correct. It doesn't necessarily mean he is racist. He also suggested there were lines you couldn't cross.

The FA ruled that Suarez crossed that line. He is a player who plays on the margins. No testimonial of his character is complete without including the fact that he is prepared to do an awful lot to win.

The FA sent a message that they are different; and Suarez was the medium for the message. They acted as if they were trying to halt the spread of a killer virus. In fact, given the success of racism awareness campaigns, it might seem that they had found a cure for something which, in English football, is no longer a known disease.

Liverpool refused to accept that there could be anything offensive in Suarez's words despite the pretty obvious evidence that he was intending to offend Evra. This is not actionable in itself, even if we live in a Daily Mail-shaped age in which there is supposed to be a remedy whenever somebody shouts 'I'm offended'.

If Evra, as reported, also accused the referee of booking him because he was black then it might also be reasonable to claim he was an unreliable witness. He may also have abused Suarez in pretty offensive terms.

Liverpool supporters insisted that, if it had been a clear case of racist abuse, they would accept the punishment. What they really meant was if it was different, if it wasn't happening to them, if it was happening to, say, John Terry, they would be happy to back the idea that there should be zero tolerance.

Unfortunately, life is rarely fought in the abstract or on ground we choose. The ground on which we have to stand and fight is usually messy, complicated and full of ambiguities.

Andre Villas-Boas took over at Chelsea saying he wanted his players to be model citizens. Now he essentially says 'not yet' as he reconciles easy words with the reality of managing John Terry.

Loyalty is admirable; taking a stand is necessary at times. Reason and doubt are harder to grasp but every bit as important. Last week, all sides retreated to the comfort of their tribes. It is a place where nothing ever changes.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/retreating-into-tribal-warfare-2972984.html
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« Reply #8221 on: December 25, 2011, 09:30:57 am »
That's not actually real is it?
Yes it is. I subscribe to the Times and have told them in no uncertain terms that this is disgusting.
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« Reply #8222 on: December 25, 2011, 09:34:19 am »
Must admit not read much of the site in the last day or so, has anyone moaned about Suarez Is Not A Racist! in the custom title?

Think it's great myself.
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« Reply #8223 on: December 25, 2011, 09:37:49 am »
Yes it is. I subscribe to the Times and have told them in no uncertain terms that this is disgusting.


Fucks sake. It's depressing that they actually can write such nonsense and get away with it.

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« Reply #8224 on: December 25, 2011, 09:39:47 am »
So let me get this straight.

You think the fact that Liverpool Football Club, its manager and players standing strongly behind a player they believe has been persecuted and wrongly labelled a racist is embarassing?

You would rather they sit back, see the newspaper headlines yelling RACIST, hear the crowds screaming abuse at one of our players and just bow their heads and do nothing.

As far as I am concerned, if they had taken that course of action it would have been embarassing, in fact it would have been disgraceful.

This is a ridiculous statement.  I got some t shirts printed for Christmas - was that wrong?  Should I have been told by the shop that they only deal with natural disasters?  The players obviously feel deeply that what is going on at the moment is wrong.  Their statement and show of support couldn't have made that plainer, and if people want to throw their hands up in horror over that, I would suggest that they are pandering to the newspaper headline writers and TalkSport journo's rather than examing the events of the past few weeks.

Ok, lets have a look at what has happened, and the punishment meted out.

As far as I am concerned Suarez has been made a scapegoat and is paying the price for a series of events that have built up together.

**  England get badly mauled at the World Cup bidding and accusations about illegality in the bidding process are made that cause great embarrassment and trouble for Sepp    Blatter and his cronies.

         The FA oppose Blatters re-election.

**     Suarez hits the Prem and teams find him a nuiscance.

         Ferguson labels him a diver,  TalkSport devote a programme to debate 'Is Louis Suarez the dirtiest player in the Prem, some no mark goalie calls him a diver.

**     Suarez starts to get the wrong end of decisions in games, and little if any protection from referees.

**     Blatter makes a comment about how racist remarks on the pitch should be dealt with by a handshake, causes fury (mainly in this country) and is forced to apologise.

**     Evra makes a post match complaint about Suarez making a racist remark, and the FA investigate.

        They do not subsequently investigate or punish Evra for using a pejorative word even though he admitted the offence.

**     The FA hand out an unprecendented ban and fine, to make Blatter and his cohorts see how this sort of offence should be handled, a great excuse for some more FIFA    bashing.

**     Daily Mirror has a bold banner headline saying simply RACIST. Talksport spend days focussing on pulling one of our players to bits, while every time he now sets foot on the pitch he is subjected to boos and abuse.

**     John Terry (subject of a Police investigation into racist comments) plays and gets the following headline in the papers -"John Terry a heroic Leader", "The caring side of John Terry" (picture of him with a black baby).

**     Even if found guilty in a Court of law, Terry can  not  be awarded a ban for 8 games, or a £40,000 fine.  Instead, he can be given a maximum fine of £2500.  A bit of a difference there isn't there?


and despite ALL of this you think the club should have sat back, accepted what the FA have done without any protest or sign of discontent?

You say that Liverpool fans should make up their own minds about all this, well believe me I have done a lot of reading, a lot of listening, and I have made my mind up.

The treatment of Suarez stinks.  I know it, the players know it, the manager, who I happen to think is a fairly decent chap, knows it and an awful lot of decent Liverpool supporters know it.

Shame you don't feel the same.
       

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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8225 on: December 25, 2011, 09:40:51 am »
Must admit not read much of the site in the last day or so, has anyone moaned about Suarez Is Not A Racist! in the custom title?

Think it's great myself.

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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8226 on: December 25, 2011, 09:41:14 am »
I just love this barrage of articles with a sole intent of saying 'Come on Liverpool, bend over and take your medicine, this doesn't need to go any further'. Keep them coming while we're all waiting for the facts to be released. LFC did nothing wrong and by the time this blows over there will be three losers in the story: FA, Evra and unfortunately Suarez, or should I say his reputation.

Meanwhile keep hoping that LFC backs down even before a scratch of evidence is released.
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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8227 on: December 25, 2011, 09:43:38 am »
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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8228 on: December 25, 2011, 09:45:20 am »
There are tons of supporters from other clubs in europe, who are behind suarez, I know of.

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« Reply #8229 on: December 25, 2011, 09:46:31 am »
That's a pretty balanced piece from Fanning. Don't agree with all of it but it's worth a read.
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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8230 on: December 25, 2011, 09:47:00 am »
From Rod Liddle at the Times.

The Uruguyans, squirming with embarrassment, have insisted they have nothing against the United Kingdom, but a lot in favour of Argentina, hence their vote for the embargo. I can’t think of anything useful or even interesting to have come out of Uruguay, which we might boycott in return. It is just a large river and some fields of maize. There’s the rat-faced racist footballer Luis Suarez, of course, who plays for Liverpool — perhaps the Football Association was getting its retaliation in early by banning him for eight games.

He is an absolute twat. Googled his name and this came up as another of his articles

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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8231 on: December 25, 2011, 09:50:01 am »
Would it be a good idea to start an 'evidence' thread compiled from the 'IT' dept with some of the cracking stuff compiled in this thread?

Some top drawer material here & i aint read half of it.

Ie: red number seven's draft,quotes & character references etc from big names closely associated with Luis,also some of the material used to undermine Evra's integrity as in that video using the 'n' word himself-i'm sure there are lots more to be had.

Once compiled & sent to LFC i'm sure some could be used in his defence at the appeal.

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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8232 on: December 25, 2011, 09:52:15 am »
From Rod Liddle at the Times.

The Uruguyans, squirming with embarrassment, have insisted they have nothing against the United Kingdom, but a lot in favour of Argentina, hence their vote for the embargo. I can’t think of anything useful or even interesting to have come out of Uruguay, which we might boycott in return. It is just a large river and some fields of maize. There’s the rat-faced racist footballer Luis Suarez, of course, who plays for Liverpool — perhaps the Football Association was getting its retaliation in early by banning him for eight games.

What article is that in mate?
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« Reply #8233 on: December 25, 2011, 09:53:37 am »
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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8234 on: December 25, 2011, 09:53:56 am »
Would it be a good idea to start an 'evidence' thread compiled from the 'IT' dept with some of the cracking stuff compiled in this thread?

Some top drawer material here & i aint read half of it.

Ie: red number seven's draft,quotes & character references etc from big names closely associated with Luis,also some of the material used to undermine Evra's integrity as in that video using the 'n' word himself-i'm sure there are lots more to be had.

Once compiled & sent to LFC i'm sure some could be used in his defence at the appeal.

Just a thought.

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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8235 on: December 25, 2011, 10:13:12 am »
That's a pretty balanced piece from Fanning. Don't agree with all of it but it's worth a read.
I think it's a good piece of work.

I'm all for us supporting Luis Suarez, I do think though we could have been a tad smarter this week.

For example, the t-shirts supporting Suarez could have been worn and then taken off to show Kick it Out t-shirts underneath. The world in general is so thick that it can't accept that you can support Suarez and anti-racist campaigns.

Luis Suarez is palpably not a racist, the FA have said as such but that message is being lost in the ether. The best way to reinforce the right message is to openly support the Kick it Out campaign and issue a letter to the Daily Mirror requesting a retraction of the "Racist" headline or sue for defamation.

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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8236 on: December 25, 2011, 10:15:10 am »
I think it's a good piece of work.

I'm all for us supporting Luis Suarez, I do think though we could have been a tad smarter this week.

For example, the t-shirts supporting Suarez could have been worn and then taken off to show Kick it Out t-shirts underneath. The world in general is so thick that it can't accept that you can support Suarez and anti-racist campaigns.

Luis Suarez is palpably not a racist, the FA have said as such but that message is being lost in the ether. The best way to reinforce the right message is to openly support the Kick it Out campaign and issue a letter to the Daily Mirror requesting a retraction of the "Racist" headline or sue for defamation.

I'd just do that directly.

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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8237 on: December 25, 2011, 10:27:27 am »
I think it's a good piece of work.

I'm all for us supporting Luis Suarez, I do think though we could have been a tad smarter this week.

For example, the t-shirts supporting Suarez could have been worn and then taken off to show Kick it Out t-shirts underneath. The world in general is so thick that it can't accept that you can support Suarez and anti-racist campaigns.

Luis Suarez is palpably not a racist, the FA have said as such but that message is being lost in the ether. The best way to reinforce the right message is to openly support the Kick it Out campaign and issue a letter to the Daily Mirror requesting a retraction of the "Racist" headline or sue for defamation.

I can't argue with any of that. Personally, I have no problem with they way the club have acted - yes we could have been smarter in terms of the way the statement was worded and if they would have wore anti-racism t-shirts, then fine - the most important issues are Suarez and the clubs re-iterration of his innocence and the club's anti-racist stance and both have been made perfectly clear since the FA's statement and I'm glad the club have been vehemently sticking to their belief, even in the face of being attacked from all sides.
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Re: Luis Suarez - FA guilty charge and LFC Statement (*)
« Reply #8238 on: December 25, 2011, 10:28:11 am »
The Rod Liddle article is in a piece named 'Just you wait — they’ll be dancing the tango in Port Stanley'
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« Reply #8239 on: December 25, 2011, 10:28:46 am »
Fanning and Reade have disappointed me with their reactions....balance isn't enough in the face of gross imbalance.

Tim Vickery is the only British journalist who's had the balls - and knowledge - to deal with the issue head on. Hats off to him



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