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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #320 on: October 14, 2011, 08:53:23 pm »
Foreign managers get big jobs in their own country which means they can build up their personal trophy cabinet.

English managers get small-medium jobs in England so they can't build up their personal trophy cabinet.

People then compare the foreign manager's trophy cabinet to the English manager' trophy cabinet.

For example people say "What has Harry ever won" and then go on to list all the trophies Capello has won.

I'd like to see Capello win the Champions League with West Ham...

So you're saying English Managers aren't good enough to get the overseas jobs? We agree then.

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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #321 on: October 14, 2011, 09:04:53 pm »
Foreign managers get big jobs in their own country which means they can build up their personal trophy cabinet.

English managers get small-medium jobs in England so they can't build up their personal trophy cabinet.

People then compare the foreign manager's trophy cabinet to the English manager' trophy cabinet.

For example people say "What has Harry ever won" and then go on to list all the trophies Capello has won.

I'd like to see Capello win the Champions League with West Ham...

Who has ever done that?
If the foreign manager is off in his own country still winning trophies, what's stopping the English manager?

Ridiculous post, and if you think Redknapp is one tenth of the manager Capello is you're mental
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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #322 on: October 14, 2011, 09:06:44 pm »
Foreign managers get big jobs in their own country which means they can build up their personal trophy cabinet.

English managers get small-medium jobs in England so they can't build up their personal trophy cabinet.

People then compare the foreign manager's trophy cabinet to the English manager' trophy cabinet.

For example people say "What has Harry ever won" and then go on to list all the trophies Capello has won.

I'd like to see Capello win the Champions League with West Ham...

First of all, Redknapp can't win the CL with West Ham either so that argument is moot.

Next, "English managers get small-medium jobs in England."  Why do you think that is?  Why aren't they "allowed to build up their trophy cabinet?"

I'd have to say because they're shit.
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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #323 on: October 14, 2011, 09:08:47 pm »
As much as I dislike Harry, considering the result a few weeks ago, our posturing over his tactical ineptness is a little off.

1-0 against 10 men for fucking ages, then managed to score 3 goals when we were down to 9 men. What's off about it? He's able to throw men forward, that's about the sum total of his coaching ability and tactical knowhow. When it comes to keeping teams out and when it comes to European fixtures the guy's an assclown.
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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #324 on: October 14, 2011, 09:31:58 pm »
1-0 against 10 men for fucking ages, then managed to score 3 goals when we were down to 9 men. What's off about it? He's able to throw men forward, that's about the sum total of his coaching ability and tactical knowhow. When it comes to keeping teams out and when it comes to European fixtures the guy's an assclown.
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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #325 on: October 14, 2011, 09:37:59 pm »
1-0 against 10 men for fucking ages, then managed to score 3 goals when we were down to 9 men. What's off about it? He's able to throw men forward, that's about the sum total of his coaching ability and tactical knowhow. When it comes to keeping teams out and when it comes to European fixtures the guy's an assclown.

and even that goal was a freak screamer.

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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #326 on: October 14, 2011, 09:46:26 pm »
Foreign managers get big jobs in their own country which means they can build up their personal trophy cabinet.

And why do you think that is. Like when Hodgson took over at Liverpool. One of the highest rated, English manager, got a top job and he produced so much shit during his 6 month tenure that it threatened global climate.

English managers get small-medium jobs in England so they can't build up their personal trophy cabinet.

Then why not go to Scotland or Ireland, win the league 3 years in a row and come back to England with a winning mentality? No they'd rather sit tight collecting their severance pay from the last job they fucked up until they get their next one.

And that statement is utter bullshit. Foreign managers earn their stripes. Since I mentioned Lippi earlier and his undoubted credentials, he managed for 12 years before he went to Juventus where he won the league during his first season. Unless you count Pontedera, Pistoiese, Carrarese and Lucchese as anything other than small-medium jobs? Or what about their current manager Prandelli. He was at Atalanta, Lecce, Verona, Venezia before going to Parma and then taking a newly promoted Fiorentina to the CL in one season. Or Didi Deschamps? Took charge of Monaco, a relatively average side to the CL final. Then got Juve promoted immidiately and then went to Marseille where he won the league for Marseille for the first time in 18 years. Or a RAWK favourite, Rafa Benitez. He managed such Spanish powerhouses as Real Valladolid, Osasuna, Extramadura and Tenerife before he got his first big break at Valencia where he broke up the biggest powerhouses in football at the time Real Madrid and Barcelona by winning the league.

Now that's just a few clubs. Why hasn't any English manager does anything remotely similar since what the 90's?

People then compare the foreign manager's trophy cabinet to the English manager' trophy cabinet.

Because to be the best, you have to beat the best. Foreign managers do that, English managers don't. It's extremely simple.

For example people say "What has Harry ever won" and then go on to list all the trophies Capello has won.

I'd like to see Capello win the Champions League with West Ham...

I'd like to see anyone do that. As I said earlier in the thread about Capello's achievements with Roma.
You mean like when he won the Serie A with Roma, for only the 3rd time in the club's history and it's first title in 18 years? Where he obviously had the superior squad to everyone in the league.

It's not like Milan had players like Maldini, Costacurta, Shevchenko, Gattuso, Boban, Bierhoff et al or Juventus for that matter. They had terrible players like Ferrara, Conte, Pippo Inzhagi, Del Piero, Trezeguet, Zidane, Tacchinardi, Edgar Davids, Zambrotta, Van der Saar. Who can forget the steaming pile of shit that Inter served up. Cordoba, Zanetti, Blanc, Seedorf, Recoba, Vieri, Sükür and that fatty Ronaldo I mean what's he ever done? Lazio were lucky to get 3rd serving up second tier players like Lopez, Salas, Crespo, Nesta, Mihajlovic, Simone, Nedved, Stankovic, Veron and Ravanelli.

I mean fucking Bolton would've walked the league with abysmal squads like that as "competition". 'Arry would never  have lost 3 games that season scoring only 2 goals on average per game whilst averaging less than 1 conceded. How anyone can suggest Capello is a half-decent manager after a season like that has to be clinically insane!

That season or that "era" for that matter was one of the strongest in Serie A history and with the quality of players that the oppositions had winning the league was a great achievement, espescially since Juve were expected to walk the league without breaking a sweat.
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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #327 on: October 14, 2011, 10:14:02 pm »
First of all, Redknapp can't win the CL with West Ham either so that argument is moot.

Next, "English managers get small-medium jobs in England."  Why do you think that is?  Why aren't they "allowed to build up their trophy cabinet?"

I'd have to say because they're shit.

Exactly, small to medium jobs and if they do well they probably take a step up and their progress continues in the same way IF they are good enough. Just because they are english it doesn't entitle them to take the top english jobs before they prove themselves. Rediculous post, look at the number of scottish managers in the premier league currently.

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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #328 on: October 14, 2011, 11:11:46 pm »
And why do you think that is. Like when Hodgson took over at Liverpool. One of the highest rated, English manager, got a top job and he produced so much shit during his 6 month tenure that it threatened global climate.

Then why not go to Scotland or Ireland, win the league 3 years in a row and come back to England with a winning mentality? No they'd rather sit tight collecting their severance pay from the last job they fucked up until they get their next one.

And that statement is utter bullshit. Foreign managers earn their stripes. Since I mentioned Lippi earlier and his undoubted credentials, he managed for 12 years before he went to Juventus where he won the league during his first season. Unless you count Pontedera, Pistoiese, Carrarese and Lucchese as anything other than small-medium jobs? Or what about their current manager Prandelli. He was at Atalanta, Lecce, Verona, Venezia before going to Parma and then taking a newly promoted Fiorentina to the CL in one season. Or Didi Deschamps? Took charge of Monaco, a relatively average side to the CL final. Then got Juve promoted immidiately and then went to Marseille where he won the league for Marseille for the first time in 18 years. Or a RAWK favourite, Rafa Benitez. He managed such Spanish powerhouses as Real Valladolid, Osasuna, Extramadura and Tenerife before he got his first big break at Valencia where he broke up the biggest powerhouses in football at the time Real Madrid and Barcelona by winning the league.

Now that's just a few clubs. Why hasn't any English manager does anything remotely similar since what the 90's?

Because to be the best, you have to beat the best. Foreign managers do that, English managers don't. It's extremely simple.

I'd like to see anyone do that. As I said earlier in the thread about Capello's achievements with Roma.
That season or that "era" for that matter was one of the strongest in Serie A history and with the quality of players that the oppositions had winning the league was a great achievement, espescially since Juve were expected to walk the league without breaking a sweat.

Redknapp's first job - Bournemouth.

Capello's first job - AC Milan.

Also look at Villas-Boas.

Half a season at Academica and he gets the Porto job.

That would never happen in England.

(Liverpool with Hodgson aside) the bigger clubs tend to appoint foreign managers.

For example can you really see Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea or Man City ever appointing an English manager?

If you gave Big Sam the Man U job I would expect him to win the league.

But he will never get that opportunity.

Tis a shame.

Likewise if you give Redknapp the England job I would expect him to get to the semi-finals.

Hopefully he gets that opportunity.

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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #329 on: October 14, 2011, 11:15:21 pm »
English managers get small-medium jobs in England so they can't build up their personal trophy cabinet.

Not because he wanted to, but Steve McClaren took the FC Twente job and won the Dutch league. It's something I can't understand for the life of me: why don't English managers go abroad and actually try to pick up something new in another country -- tactics, systems, patterns of play -- and bring those experiences back when they return to England. Sir Bobby Robson, the best manager England has produced in the past two decades, had the nerve to go to PSV Eindhoven and Sporting Lisbon and probably became a better manager for it.

The fact that the English media considers Redknapp and Hodgson are the two front-runners for the England job is an unbelievable indictment of how much the English coaching structure is a systemic failure.
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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #330 on: October 14, 2011, 11:16:35 pm »
If you gave Big Sam the Man U job I would expect him to win the league.

But he will never get that opportunity.

Tis a shame.

Hopefully he gets that opportunity.

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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #331 on: October 14, 2011, 11:17:22 pm »
From your fingertips to God's ears. BIG SAM FOR UNITED!

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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #332 on: October 14, 2011, 11:18:20 pm »
If you gave Big Sam the Man U job I would expect him to win the league.

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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #333 on: October 14, 2011, 11:20:00 pm »
To be fair Fat Sam is more suited to Real Madrid.

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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #334 on: October 14, 2011, 11:22:00 pm »
(Liverpool with Hodgson aside) the bigger clubs tend to appoint foreign managers.

No, the bigger clubs tend to appoint managers who are very good, regardless of their nationality. It's only knobheads and the English media who seem to think the big clubs should be looking for British or English managers to lead them, whereas the truth is there are far more impressive foreign coaches than English ones.
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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #335 on: October 14, 2011, 11:25:08 pm »

If you gave Big Sam the Man U job I would expect him to win the league.

But he will never get that opportunity.

Tis a shame.

Likewise if you give Redknapp the England job I would expect him to get to the semi-finals.

Hopefully he gets that opportunity.

That is the biggest load of toss I have ever heard. Another INGURLAND fan who laps up the jingoistic bile spewed by the media and has, laughably, conned the brain-dead masses into thinking that the likes of Redknapp and "Big Sam" are better managers than Capello.

My only huge regret is that we have the same sort of "people" supporting us who were led down a similar path with regards to Rafa
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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #336 on: October 14, 2011, 11:27:29 pm »
That is the biggest load of toss I have ever heard. Another INGURLAND fan who laps up the jingoistic bile spewed by the media and has, laughably, conned the brain-dead masses into thinking that the likes of Redknapp and "Big Sam" are better managers than Capello.

My only huge regret is that we have the same sort of "people" supporting us who were led down a similar path with regards to Rafa

I never said they are better managers than Capello.

But I'd rather have them managing England that's for sure.

Remember Fabio Capello is the guy who took Emile Heskey to the World Cup and left Darren Bent at home.

This is the guy who took SWP to the World Cup and left Young & Downing at home.

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« Reply #337 on: October 14, 2011, 11:34:12 pm »
How did the last English manager do at Euro 2008? How did Keegan do at Euro 2000?
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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #338 on: October 14, 2011, 11:34:58 pm »
How did the last English manager do at Euro 2008? How did Keegan do at Euro 2000?

How did the English manager do at the 1966 World Cup?

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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #339 on: October 14, 2011, 11:35:46 pm »
How did the English manager do at the 1966 World Cup?

Fucking hell. Really?
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« Reply #340 on: October 14, 2011, 11:36:37 pm »
Capello is clearly a quality manager as his record proves.

But he is the wrong guy to be managing the England team. I could have excused a World Cup where we didn't get that far, but after a promising start he destroyed all the tough stances he had built by bottling it and picking all the old players that had their chance and had failed. The likes of SWP, Heskey, Joe Cole and Carrick should have been nowhere near this squad in the WC.

After that he came out with rubbish excuses. Hopefully Redknapp does not take over because he will pick all the old guard.

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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #341 on: October 14, 2011, 11:44:34 pm »
How did the English manager do at the 1966 World Cup?
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« Reply #342 on: October 14, 2011, 11:47:41 pm »
Fucking hell. Really?

You can't just quote McClaren's failure all the time.

Yes McClaren is English.

Yes he failed.

Doesn't mean every other English manager would fail.

Sir Alf Ramsey was English.

He succeeded by winning the World Cup.

Doesn't mean every other English manager would win the World Cup.

You gotta judge each manager on an individual basis.

McClaren does not represent every English manager out there.

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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #343 on: October 14, 2011, 11:49:46 pm »
You can't just quote McClaren's failure all the time.

Yes McClaren is English.

Yes he failed.

Doesn't mean every other English manager would fail.

Sir Alf Ramsey was English.

He succeeded by winning the World Cup.

Doesn't mean every other English manager would win the World Cup.

You gotta judge each manager on an individual basis.

McClaren does not represent every English manager out there.

I might be wrong here, and have possibly entered the fucking Twilight Zone, but I'm pretty sure I haven't mentioned Steve McClaren at any point whatsoever.

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« Reply #344 on: October 14, 2011, 11:50:41 pm »
I mentioned him  :-[
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« Reply #345 on: October 14, 2011, 11:53:18 pm »
The people who don't want Redknapp to get the job need to cut that shit out, it would be the single most entertaining spectacle in international football if he's appointed. 

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« Reply #346 on: October 14, 2011, 11:54:35 pm »
The people who don't want Redknapp to get the job need to cut that shit out, it would be the single most entertaining spectacle in international football if he's appointed.

I think everyone wants him to, it's just tiring to hear 'ARRY KNOWS BETTER THAN THAT DIRTY FUCKING I-TALIAN
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« Reply #347 on: October 14, 2011, 11:55:50 pm »
I might be wrong here, and have possibly entered the fucking Twilight Zone, but I'm pretty sure I haven't mentioned Steve McClaren at any point whatsoever.

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Soz that was directed at something awful (a foreign manager of our national team?)  ;)

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« Reply #348 on: October 15, 2011, 12:00:32 am »
I think everyone wants him to, it's just tiring to hear 'ARRY KNOWS BETTER THAN THAT DIRTY FUCKING I-TALIAN

He does know better, he got spurs to the quarters of the CL playing fucking incredible football : Work it wide, hit it long into the box for crouch to knock down.  He's also a blue collar working man, look at all those brilliant car window interviews he gives during the off season.  Such a good lad and so accommodating to the hard working honest people working at Sky Sports.

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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #349 on: October 15, 2011, 12:03:05 am »
I can't wait til the window lickers get their way and another useless agricultural English cretin fails to qualify England for the next world cup.

If England want to be a world class team they'll need a world class manager. The terms "world class manager" and "english" are currently mutually exclusive.
It didn't used to be the case - a bit of passion and a bit of luck could get you through the small number of games in an international tournament.


These days you have spain, holland and germany who have the passion, but they also have talent and a philosophy and you can't go out there without a gameplan and hope it'll all be alright on the night. You need a philosophy too.
England need to give a world class manager a chance to instil a certain frame of mind into the England team. Capello could have but he's spent too long having to deal with wankers like Terry and Rooney misbehaving and the bellends in the press putting him as a donkey on the back pages cos they're too thick to talk about the actual football (or at least they're catering to people who are) and they'd rather see their jowely mate 'Arry in the job fawning over his pointless interviews every. fucking. day.
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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #350 on: October 15, 2011, 12:08:33 am »
Being taught to play from the back at the age of 25 ;D ;D ;D

Wenger did it with the Arsenal back four.
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« Reply #351 on: October 15, 2011, 12:15:24 am »
If you gave Big Sam the Man U job I would expect him to win the league.

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« Reply #352 on: October 15, 2011, 12:15:51 am »
Redknapp's first job - Bournemouth.

Capello's first job - AC Milan.

Also look at Villas-Boas.

Half a season at Academica and he gets the Porto job.

That would never happen in England.

(Liverpool with Hodgson aside) the bigger clubs tend to appoint foreign managers.

For example can you really see Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea or Man City ever appointing an English manager?

If you gave Big Sam the Man U job I would expect him to win the league.

But he will never get that opportunity.

Tis a shame.

Likewise if you give Redknapp the England job I would expect him to get to the semi-finals.

Hopefully he gets that opportunity.

Because. English. Managers. Are. Shit.

Big Sam walking the league?  Just stop.  Seriously.  Actually, go ask Man United supporters if they want Ferguson to be succeeded by Allardyce or Hodgson.

Go and see.

"Look here Mancs, Allardyce, Hodgson, Mourinho, or Guardiola?  You'd pick an English manager, yeah?"  Do a poll and report back to us.

If you're saying that foreign managers get an unfair advantage in terms of the jobs they get, that simply means they're better managers.  Why appoint foreigners?  Because, at this moment in time, they are better managers.

Not saying there can't be great English managers coming through, but when you see Stuart Pearce managing the U-21's, you realize that time isn't now.
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Re: Capello to leave?!
« Reply #353 on: October 15, 2011, 12:33:05 am »
This thread is magnificent.
I got the Lucas thing wrong. Will be right on Henderson though. Play him RM, play him CM - Not good enough and never will be.

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« Reply #354 on: October 15, 2011, 12:50:08 am »
Hahahah dinner and a comedy act. I am blessed.

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« Reply #355 on: October 15, 2011, 01:00:02 am »
If Harry gets the job and we get to the 2014 World Cup Final, remember you heard it here first  ;)

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« Reply #356 on: October 15, 2011, 01:02:52 am »
If Harry gets the job and we get to the 2014 World Cup Final, remember you heard it here first  ;)

Aw no, I don't think you are serious now.
I got the Lucas thing wrong. Will be right on Henderson though. Play him RM, play him CM - Not good enough and never will be.

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« Reply #357 on: October 15, 2011, 01:08:17 am »
You can't just quote McClaren's failure all the time.

Yes McClaren is English.

Yes he failed.

Doesn't mean every other English manager would fail.

Sir Alf Ramsey was English.

He succeeded by winning the World Cup.

Doesn't mean every other English manager would win the World Cup.

You gotta judge each manager on an individual basis.

McClaren does not represent every English manager out there.

Jesus, just read that. You're logic (such as it is) is illogical

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Ive read some bullshite in my time, this is justt some more.

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« Reply #358 on: October 15, 2011, 01:11:12 am »
Aw no, I don't think you are serious now.

I think he could do it.

Not saying he will, but I reckon he could.

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« Reply #359 on: October 15, 2011, 01:12:22 am »
I like you. For some reason I think you wear a Burberry cap though

Eels for brekkie, lots of pearls on his clothes, wears a cap, prone to jumping in the air and clicking his heels together?