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Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« on: August 30, 2011, 01:37:03 am »
It was a familiar tale for Stewart Downing. With every passing transfer window came another missed chance of a real shot at the big time. There was no shortage of big clubs thinking about him as an option, but for one reason or another no one was willing to follow through on the bundles of pages of scouting they had done on him. Tottenham, before the days of Gareth Bale sought a left sided midfielder, Downing wasn't to be that man. Arsenal, managed by Arsene Wenger were known admirers of Downing, yet they like their London neighbours decided to look elsewhere time and time again. Then of course there was Liverpool, who had craved a genuine top class winger ever since Steve Mcmanaman had departed for the Bernebeu to join Real Madrid's legion of Galactico's. Circumstances dictate however, and the perilous ownership situation forced the then manager Rafa Benitez to delve into the transfer market with eyes on secondary targets seeking first and foremost to keep the transfer expenditure as low as possible.
 
16th July 2009 - The years of waiting for the chance to make the step up ends as Aston Villa agree a deal worth 12 million with Middlesbrough. The 16th of July was to become an important date in the career of Stewart Downing. On arrival at Villa Park, Downing talked of his relief to join a club with genuine aspirations of competing at the top end of the Premier League year in year out.
 
"As an outsider looking in, it was obvious Villa are a club on the up. I want to be part of that."
 
It was a fair comment from Downing. At the time of his arrival Villa had just come off the back of a 6th placed finish and had a European campaign to look forward to. Martin O'Neill was building a team around young English players at Villa, Downing joining an already impressive crop including Ashley Young, Gareth Barry, James Milner and Gabriel Agbonlahor.
 
Downing was signed by O'Neil despite the fact he was carrying an injury and wasn't expected to return to action until November. This tied in with the four year deal, pointed to Downing being a long term signing.
 
The 2009/10 season proved to be another positive step for Aston Villa as a football club, Downing spent a lot of his time playing from wide right and managed to help the club secure another 6th placed finish, as well as a Carling Cup final appearance, although Downing was to end up on the losing side as they narrowly lost out to Manchester United.
 
The whole outlook for Downing and Aston Villa flipped upside down when just days before the start of the 2010/11 season manager Martin O'Neill walked out on the club due to a dispute with the clubs owner Randy Lerner over funds for potential new players. Another blow came soon after O'Neill's departure, Villa's star player from the season previous James Milner finally completed his widely expected move to Manchester City. Milner's absence may have had a negative affect on the form of Aston Villa as a whole but it had the opposite affect for Stewart Downing as an individual.
 
Downing quickly stepped up and became the main man for Aston Villa post Martin O'Neil and James Milner. Whilst Ashley Young and Gabriel Agbonlahor struggled to regain their form form years previous, Downing was producing perhaps his best ever season, playing mostly from his favoured left midfield role. Despite the club going through three different managers during the season, there was a feeling that no matter who was at the helm Downing was playing with such confidence, a successful season was inevitable. Downing managed to contribute 7 goals throughout the season, despite Villa being a predominately counter attacking team. On paper, 7 goals may not be a figure to shout about, but for Downing it was a significant improvement on his previous seasons. In 8 years at Middlesbrough Downing managed just 17 goals, so a return of 7 goals for a team struggling at the bottom of the Premiership was more impressive than the figure initially suggests.
 
Downing's season culminated in a man of the match performance against....... yep, Liverpool. Liverpool's young full back John Flanagan had stepped in at the end of the season and coped with apparent ease, performing like a seasoned pro against the likes of Manchester City and Arsenal at just 18 years of age. On May 11th however, Flanagan finally got a taste of what it feels like to be a full back in the Premier League when he came up against Stewart Downing. Downing ended a superb campaign on a personal level with the winning goal to give Aston Villa a 1-0 win over Liverpool at Villa Park. Downing displayed all of his qualities to the young full back that day, cutting inside as easily as he could hit the by-line and whip in a typically threatening cross. I'm sure you could have put a smile on Flanagan's face had you told him that he would only be marking him in training over the coming years.
 
Exactly two years after Downing's move to Aston Villa he was on the move once again, and just like he took a step up to join Aston Villa from his hometown club Middlesbrough, it was the same situation again when he finally signed on the dotted line for Kenny Dalglish's new look Liverpool. It was clear from the outset that Downing was the man Dalglish and Comolli wanted as Liverpool's long sought after 'winger'.
 
In the days and weeks after Downing's move, there was much debate about the fee Liverpool had paid to prize Downing away from Villa Park, '£20 million'. Again, i would be tempted to use the phrase 'On paper', the reason being - 20 million pounds seems like a hell of a lot of money for Stewart Downing.... 'On paper' -  but it's on the pitch that matters, and in that respect Downing will be worth every penny.


Does Downing typify the 'FSG' outlook on players?

It would seem so. When the American Sports group completed their takeover of Liverpool back in October 2010, journalists and fans alike began to root around to find as much information as they could on Liverpool's brand new owners. One name that would have come up time and time again was that of Billy Beane. FSG were known advocates of Beane's system in Baseball 'Moneyball'. Put simply, 'Moneyball' is based around statistics and which individual's have the best stats. With that in mind, it didn't take a genius to work out why Liverpool's 'Director Of Football' Damien Comolli wanted to make Downing one of Liverpool's new summer recruits.
 
Downing appeared alongside new teammate Jordan Henderson in the top five of 'Chances created' during the Premier League from the 2010/11 season.
 

 
This kind of stat would have been a telling factor in Comolli's decision to go after Downing, but no more important than Downing's versatility, his ability to pass and move with ease, his excellent crossing and his underrated burst of speed, yes.... you can see why Downing was an attractive proposition to the Frenchman.
 
What can we expect from Downing in a Liverpool shirt?

The first thing that stands out about Downing is his incredible consistency. He appeared in every single one of Aston Villa's league games from the season previous, and regularly did the same at Middlesbrough.

So far in his short Liverpool career, Downing has played from wide right to great effect, as well as his more natural wide left role. In the opening fixture of the Premier League season Downing started off from the left hand side of midfield, but it was on the right side of the pitch that he produced the moment of the match, and a taster of what Liverpool fans can expect over the rest of the season. Downing picked up the ball just inside the Sunderland half, and with one burst of acceleration the Sunderland defenders were backing away, Downing skipped past three players and unleashed a wonderful left footed shot from just outside the eighteen yard box that crashed off the bar and raised a huge sigh from all corners of Anfield. It was one of those moments where you turn to your mate on the Kop and think 'This boy can play a bit'.
 
In the first real 'heavyweight' game of the season down at the Emirates Downing again showed all of his footballing smarts in a highly efficient performance, the England winger more than playing his part as Liverpool ran out 2-0 winners. Downing was a vital cog in the way Liverpool set up, more often than not he led Liverpool's counter attacks, able to move the whole team 30 yards further up the field with one change of pace. It's something that Liverpool have lacked for a long time, someone with the ability to wipe out full zones of the field with just pure running. Manchester United have had it throughout the Premier League era, with Giggs, Ronaldo, Nani, Valencia all providing a simple but effective outlet. Despite all the qualities players like Maxi, Kuyt, and Benayoun posses teams could easily adapt to keep them as quiet as possible, typically by pushing up and denying them space in the middle third, because of course teams knew that there was no real threat in behind in terms of pace. With Downing, it's a lose lose (For the opposition!) no matter what tactics a team decides to employ, he's happy to come in off the flank and bump it off one and two touch, but if you squeeze up too much, then he has no problems running in between full backs and centre backs. It gives the side so much variety, and that's why he's a twenty million pound player, Downing does the small things that make a big difference for the collective. In theory, Downing will be able to do join in with the pass and move groove at Anfield, when teams are more likely to come and sit in, and then away from home look to open up the pitch a tad more and look for the run off the full backs shoulder. As Optajoe might say - options.

Does he have International credentials and do we care?

Tom Cleverley was recently called up to the England squad after a 45 minute cameo against Manchester City in the Charity shield, 'This is England', though Capello is no Shane Meadow's and Wayne Rooney no Stephen Grah... *hem* *hem*.
 
The call up of the young Manchester United player encapsulated all that is wrong with English football, certainly at National level. For so long, Stewart Downing was playing for an unfashionable club - Middlesbrough. If only Downing had made one above average appearance in the Charity Shield then he may have aquired double the amount of caps he currently has.
 
Downing finally made progress on the International front when his former club manager Steve McClaren was appointed as England manager. This presented it's own problems however, McClaren's reign turned out to be a disaster from the outset and it didn't take long for the press to jump on Downing's inclusion as one of the contributing factors.
 
One of the major turning points in both McClaren's and Downing's England career was the 0-0 draw at home to Macedonia. Downing was played on the left hand side of the England midfield and didn't do himself justice. Predictably, England fans and press alike rounded on Downing, questions were fired at McClaren for including him, and there were even aqusations of bias because of the Middlesbrough connection.
 
This was one of the write up's Downing received in regard to his Macedonia performance.
 
 England lacked pace and width - and those are two things that can be aimed at Downing. Now the crowd have turned against him, it will be a battle to save his England career.
 
 
So on Downing's third start for England, he was apparently fighting to save his England career, on Downing's third start for England the crowd had turned against him - 'This is England'.
 
Of course just a short time later Steve McClaren was sacked as England manager and Downing was seemingly back to square one.
 
If Downing ever was genuinely 'fighting' to save his England career then he seems to be winning. Downing has been a regular in Fabio Capello's England squad ever since the Italian's appointment in December 2007, Downing's finest hour in an England shirt came in 2008 as England beat Germany away from home when Downing put in a man of the match performance in England's 2-1 victory.
 
This was how The Guardian summed up Downing's performance;
 
Far more threatening than Wright-Phillips', swinging in the ball for Upson's goal and forcing Tim Wiese to save a second-half free-kick. A stinging half-volley on half-time from a newly confident player.

 
Unfortunately for Downing, England's next game came against the European champions Spain in Seville. It was a game that Spain dominated from the off and Downing could never really get himself involved enough to build on the Germany performance. He was subbed off at half time as England were totally outclassed in a 2-0 defeat.
 
The Spain defeat summed up Downing's International career to date, it was a case of the wrong game at the wrong time. The win in Germany should have acted as a building block for Downing and England, but that wasn't something David Villa and co were bothered about.
 
From the start Downing has made at Liverpool there is a real chance for Capello to hand him that prized shirt number between 2-11. Kenny Dalglish has done it, and in a short space of time we've seen how Downing rewards those who put their trust in him.
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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2011, 05:59:02 am »
more to come from him! steady head with ability! looking to be a class act already.

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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2011, 06:11:52 am »
Looking at the stats about 'Chances created', I was wondering how  Kevin Davies would perform in a bigger (Top 6) team  ?

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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2011, 06:15:18 am »

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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2011, 06:37:51 am »
Great read. Downing has been great so far, a natural pass and move player.
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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2011, 07:12:09 am »
Great read!!   :thumbup
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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2011, 07:24:55 am »
Great read!  Brilliant player!  Feel sorry for him though cause with a bit of luck he could have at least 3 goals for us already, and two of them would have been contenders for goals of the season.

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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2011, 07:27:35 am »
Great article - Downing is suffering the same 'not good enough for England' shite that John Barnes suffered all those years ago.

I really don't care what happens with his England career, I'm just happy to see him playing well for us and going on to become a legend in the King's playing revolution here.

Keep it up lad.... ;)

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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2011, 07:59:58 am »
Good read.

Always thought Downing was average, since he played for average clubs like Boro, Villa and England...

Having seen him play for us, he looks good, fast and whips in a nice cross. Hopes he build a strong partnership with Enrique for years to come.

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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2011, 08:18:20 am »
Great read.

I'm sure he'll be in the England squad in no time if he keeps it up.

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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2011, 08:36:55 am »
Looking at the stats about 'Chances created', I was wondering how  Kevin Davies would perform in a bigger (Top 6) team  ?

Yep agree mate - always liked him - not against us though! Love the way he niggles defenders.

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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2011, 08:50:05 am »
Very good read Mr D.
Your point of 'This is England' with Cleverly (however you spell it) is soooo pertinent. Makes you laugh.
Hence, I couldn't care less what the lad does for England, as long as he keeps doing it for us.

I thought he was a great signing at the time and still do. His play on Saturday was just as good as anyone else's for me.
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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2011, 08:50:19 am »
The first thing that stands out about Downing is his incredible consistency. He appeared in every single one of Aston Villa's league games from the season previous, and regularly did the same at Middlesbrough.

It's something that Liverpool have lacked for a long time, someone with the ability to wipe out full zones of the field with just pure running.

Those two are the key things for me.

Downing should deliver 15 (goals+assists) and we can expect him to play most games. With few exceptions in the last years the left flank has been LFC's weak spot in attack. Plus we have lacked that "ball carrier". Downing should solve both those problems.

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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2011, 09:35:56 am »
Downing so far proved me wrong as i thought about him, definetly bigest surprise was realising he actually is great player and fits for LFC like he was playing for us long time now...

very excited about him!

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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2011, 09:37:05 am »
Very nice read   :wave

Not a flashy one but so far Downing is everything that is said on the tin. 


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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2011, 09:38:38 am »
Lovely stuff Dilks. The key line is Downing being "able to move the whole team 30 yards further up the field with one change of pace." We've been without this for a long time.

It's an odd thing with Downing (though you've done much to de-mystify it). In career terms he's often been eclipsed by lesser players who played alongside him or played after him - Adam Johnson at Boro, Milner and Young at Villa. 
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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2011, 09:46:41 am »
look stewart  lad, give us your best shot for ONE season, dont let them engerland twats  get in your head, we are bigger than them, win us the title  then go an do what the hell you like for them if you must....
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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2011, 11:00:00 am »
Top post, looking forward to seeing what Stewart can do for us

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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2011, 11:01:00 am »
Lovely stuff Dilks. The key line is Downing being "able to move the whole team 30 yards further up the field with one change of pace." We've been without this for a long time.

It's an odd thing with Downing (though you've done much to de-mystify it). In career terms he's often been eclipsed by lesser players who played alongside him or played after him - Adam Johnson at Boro, Milner and Young at Villa. 

Young is a better player than Downing.
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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2011, 11:06:58 am »
Young is a better player than Downing.

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« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2011, 11:08:48 am »
Young is a better player than Downing.
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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2011, 11:09:37 am »
You'll be eating those words by the end of the season.

I wish you were right, mate. But we can't deny young's quality. Sure hope Downing does better than him.
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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2011, 11:16:59 am »
Great article - Downing is suffering the same 'not good enough for England' shite that John Barnes suffered all those years ago.

I really don't care what happens with his England career, I'm just happy to see him playing well for us and going on to become a legend in the King's playing revolution here.

Well said, as long as he performs for us, the volley against bolton that led to the goal was sublime,   Can't wait for stevie to get back.

Keep it up lad.... ;)
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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2011, 11:23:08 am »
You'll be eating those words by the end of the season.

I'll provide salt and paper to make it bit easier for him.
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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2011, 11:28:09 am »
Top post Mr Dilkington.

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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2011, 11:35:06 am »
Young is a better player than Downing.

who told you that, Sky Sports?

I live in Birmingham and several of my mates are Villa fans. I was a Downing-sceptic, and often had discussions with them about him. To a man, they told me that they were more gutted at losing Downing than Young. And since they have spent years watching the both of them week in week out, I tend to trust their judgement.

Hope they are proven to be correct, good signs so far.
And i'm not saying Young is shit or anything because he clearly isn't - but Villa fans recognise that Downing is the better all-round player.  Less "wow" moments than Young but a hell of a lot more consistent, and a better footballing brain. Apparently.
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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2011, 11:40:38 am »
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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2011, 11:42:21 am »
Looking at the stats about 'Chances created', I was wondering how  Kevin Davies would perform in a bigger (Top 6) team  ?

Funny you should say that, I'm pretty sure he was linked with us when he was still at Chesterfield. can anyone confirm?
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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2011, 11:43:49 am »
He's fast becoming my favourite player

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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2011, 11:45:46 am »
Excellent post. Like a few have said already, I agree that his ability to 'wipe out zones' is something we've missed for all too long (probably since McMananman). He's got such great technique as well, his touch when he brings down the ball his just about perfect. One example of many, but, despite being off balance, he made it look so easy when collecting Adam's ball out of the air (the situation which resulted in Steinsson getting booked). He's had a few chances to score as well, and I hope he'll put one away really soon. Think he could go on to score plenty once he gets his first. He can obviously strike the ball cleanly, and his movement to get into those dangerous areas is very good. With more confidence he looks like can take another step in his development.

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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2011, 12:18:29 pm »
Both Young and Downing are good players, just different players for different styles of football and different teams......sweeping generalisation  I know but Young looks to be  flash, inspiration and individualism whilst Downing is determination,  persperation and teamwork least ways that's the way it looks to me glamour vs bread and butter.
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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2011, 12:44:39 pm »
Both Young and Downing are good players, just different players for different styles of football and different teams......sweeping generalisation  I know but Young looks to be  flash, inspiration and individualism whilst Downing is determination,  persperation and teamwork least ways that's the way it looks to me glamour vs bread and butter.

Work with a couple of Villa season tickets holders.  When I asked them about these two - thats the sort of description they were using.  Said that Young had hit a real high a couple of seasons ago but tailed off since whereas Downing had been much more consistent and more of a team player.

As another poster mentioned above - they were more miffed about losing Downing than Young.

Both good players however and I'm more than happy with what I've seen from Downing so far.
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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2011, 01:22:37 pm »
Personally, I don't give a shite about Young.

Downing is ours and so far, so good. Long may his good form continue.

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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2011, 01:44:10 pm »
Great read, mate.

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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2011, 01:57:41 pm »
Young is a better player than Downing.

Young is a Manc and thus unworthy of comparison to Downing.

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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2011, 02:13:25 pm »
Nice summary.

Downing is my favourite signing of the summer so far. Wasn't to convinced when the rumours came up, thought we could do better. Don't think we can now, he'll be excellent for us.
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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2011, 02:39:08 pm »
I think he could turn out to be our most important signing of the summer.

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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2011, 02:44:19 pm »
I think he is a great addition to our team but in regards to being better than Young its a great debate...we all know he is a Manc now but his numbers, 30 league goals and 40 assists approx since 2007 is pretty impressive (twice what Downing has done).  Honestly I would have looked to have added both to the team as those two on the wider spots would have been immense. Young seems to be already flying and making Downing's good start look ok, ie 2 goals 4 assists versus no goals no assists but we can all see Downing movement is creating chances for others.....stats is not everything.

He definitely needs to be more consistent though as he has yet to reach his potential. Last season was good but three years ago he had an excellent season maybe even better than 2010 and in 2005 he had his best personal goal / assist haul. He has to make up for lost time as hes not a 20 year old anymore and a few goals / assists in the red of LFC will really get his season going.
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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2011, 02:50:24 pm »
Fab article, aptly describes Downings progression. I think he will peak with us as he's got like-minded team-players all around him.
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Re: Stewart Downing: Making Up For Lost Time
« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2011, 03:10:10 pm »
Young is a better player than Downing.
And yet, oddly, creates less chances...