Topic: Steven Gerrard

[PAC-MAN]

He needs to be gradually introduced back into things. There is absolutely no point in rushing him back.

Its just so tempting though because he's stevie g, and I bet he's banging on Kenny's door now!

sounded a bit wrong the last sentence

[SkinHimHesShite]

Why 'LOL'?

cos your dick is near your groin

[HariLFC]

cos your dick is near your groin

Good work man, excellent work.

[Red Genius]

Definately should be eased back in, he's said himself that he feels off the pace which is natural after so long out and no pre-season. Don't see any harm in having him on the bench at the weekend though 20 - 30 minute run out if possible, then play in the cup for perhaps an hour.

[John C]

Personally I would love us to give Stevie as close to a full pre-season build up as we can. Let him take his time build up his fitness gradually and let him gain the long term benefits that a full pre-season brings.

What are you talking about? He couldn't participate in the last one and if he's as fit as we* want him to be he won't participate in the next one due to England duties.

*indicates whether you really want to see him fit.

[AnimalMasch]

Boy oh boy I can't wait till our captain is back.

Judging by Dalglish's comments he'll be on the bench in Sunday in my opinion.

[killer-heels]

Being out of Europe will help here because even if he does play a full game, he will have on most instances a full week to recover, rather than having to worry about another game to train for, travel to and play in.

Spurs probably is too early and maybe even Brighton. I am not a physio but things seem to be shaping up for him to maybe get some minutes off the  bench against Wolves.

[It's Jimmy Corkhill]

Being out of Europe will help here because even if he does play a full game, he will have on most instances a full week to recover, rather than having to worry about another game to train for, travel to and play in.

Spurs probably is too early and maybe even Brighton. I am not a physio but things seem to be shaping up for him to maybe get some minutes off the  bench against Wolves.

Swerve bringing him off the bench. Subs don't warm-up in the correct manner. I'd give him a bit longer than he needs and throw him in at the deep end, he'll be chomping at the bit which will be a bonus also.

[Twelfth Man]

Swerve bringing him off the bench. Subs don't warm-up in the correct manner. I'd give him a bit longer than he needs and throw him in at the deep end, he'll be chomping at the bit which will be a bonus also.

Maybe we need those heated subs bench's they have at United, Arsenal and the Plastics, might cut down our hammies.

[No666]

According to Dom King he played a full game at Melwood on Monday.

[AriGold]

Hmm, anyone a little optimistic we may see him on the bench Sunday?

[UntouchableLuis]

Hmm, anyone a little optimistic we may see him on the bench Sunday?

I think he'll be on the bench for the Brighton game and if he can come through 20 minutes or so then will start vs Wolves.

[john_mac]

Personally I would love us to give Stevie as close to a full pre-season build up as we can. Let him take his time build up his fitness gradually and let him gain the long term benefits that a full pre-season brings.

What were you thinking of Al? Throwing on a flight to China,on to Malaysia back to Singapore then back home. Send him over Greece for a bit back home & over to Norway, can give the home game a rest? Reckon he'll be ready for anything after that? Still the sponsors'll be happy. 

[Tomo!]

Hmm, anyone a little optimistic we may see him on the bench Sunday?

I think he'll start.

[NorthamptonKopite]

Wouldn't be surprised at all to see him on the bench at Spurs.

[AriGold]

I think he'll start.

Haha fuckinghell mate there's optimism then there's that!

[Eeyore]

What were you thinking of Al? Throwing on a flight to China,on to Malaysia back to Singapore then back home. Send him over Greece for a bit back home & over to Norway, can give the home game a rest? Reckon he'll be ready for anything after that? Still the sponsors'll be happy. 

Ha Very good John, I think we should listen to Agger who is feeling in the best condition he has done for years after a good pre-season and a gradual build up to full fitness.

The bit I don't get is whatever happened to players returning from injury turning out for the ressies and building up their fitness gradually with a half here, 60 minutes there etc.

I remember the likes of Kenny himself and Rushie coming back in reserve games and there being 10,000 plus there to see them just regain fitness.

[rushandapush]

I think he'll be on bench. maybe get last 20mins and score the winner with his groin.

[john_mac]

Ha Very good John, I think we should listen to Agger who is feeling in the best condition he has done for years after a good pre-season and a gradual build up to full fitness.

The bit I don't get is whatever happened to players returning from injury turning out for the ressies and building up their fitness gradually with a half here, 60 minutes there etc.

I remember the likes of Kenny himself and Rushie coming back in reserve games and there being 10,000 plus there to see them just regain fitness.

Actually went down to Old Trafford one night to watch Barnes make a comeback from injury. We lost, winning goal scored by a young Ryan Giggs, was a fucken stormer too.

I think there is less pressure on Kenny at the minute to force Gerrard back quickly, if anywhere the pressure will come from Gerrard. The only thing I will say is that he has come back from a lot of injuries through his career and usually settled back in fairly quickly, less so as he has got older.

Kenny's not daft, he'll take on board from the medical staff as to exactly where Steven is, he will talk to Steven, they will assess everything and decide what they believe is best. What I do think is that if we can Gerrard anywhere near his best we can really start to motor this season.

[TepidT2O]

Actually went down to Old Trafford one night to watch Barnes make a comeback from injury. We lost, winning goal scored by a young Ryan Giggs, was a fucken stormer too.

I think there is less pressure on Kenny at the minute to force Gerrard back quickly, if anywhere the pressure will come from Gerrard. The only thing I will say is that he has come back from a lot of injuries through his career and usually settled back in fairly quickly, less so as he has got older.

Kenny's not daft, he'll take on board from the medical staff as to exactly where Steven is, he will talk to Steven, they will assess everything and decide what they believe is best. What I do think is that if we can Gerrard anywhere near his best we can really start to motor this season.

I once went away to forest vs Liverpool reserves to see molby and barnes coming back from injury.

2-2 iirc

[Tomo!]

Haha fuckinghell mate there's optimism then there's that!

My glass is half full and all that.

Plus I'll quote myself to fuck whilst grinning like a right smug twat if on the off chance he does.

[jonnyrich]

Hes going to start and he will petrify Tottenham. I cant wait to see him play.

[El_Pistolero]

I think he'll be on bench. maybe get last 20mins and score the winner with his groin.

Going to score with his groin? Fucking hell.

[Cruiser]

He won't be playing against Spurs. In fact we'll be lucky to see him on the bench.

[PAC-MAN]

He won't be playing against Spurs. In fact we'll be lucky to see him on the bench.

[farawayred]

I think he'll start.

No. As I said before, he is not groin' to be rushed.

[rushyman]

I think he'll start.

Behave!

Maybe as a sub v Brighton Im thinking

But when hes fully match fit and chomping at the bit again whats the team? Where does he go??

[aggerdid]

can't wait to see him back. he's the difference between that bad feeling you get when you think "this just isn't going to be our day" and thinking "we're going to get a goal here". what a player. i'd still say he's the first name on the team sheet. anyone that doesn't is deluded in my opinion. he just sums up everthing that this club stands for

[thefieldsof..]

Funny thing is.. we just don't know, and if I hate it, i'm sure ol Arry does too. 

Is Kenny playing mind-games (god i hate that expression) and going to put him on the bench for Spurs.. leave him there for 90? or bring him on for the last 25-15-10 or 5 for a run out if we're comfortable.

Or.. is he secretly fit and raring to go, and not only that but our magic sports science people have him in teminator condition, to such extent he's goin to start and shit all over Spurs. I can't wait.

Anyway. Will be really good to have him back.

[RuncornRed25]

I have a tickle in my belly just the thought of him putting on a red shirt again but at the same time isnt it refreshing to not have to rely on him as much these days?, I dont think he's been missed that much but my having him back will be like a new signing

[Red_Rich]

Will be on Bench at Spurs and start Brighton imo and then come off after an hour when we're 3-0 up.

[JN Jonsson]

So thin thighs.... :|

[Eeyore]

Actually went down to Old Trafford one night to watch Barnes make a comeback from injury. We lost, winning goal scored by a young Ryan Giggs, was a fucken stormer too.

I think there is less pressure on Kenny at the minute to force Gerrard back quickly, if anywhere the pressure will come from Gerrard. The only thing I will say is that he has come back from a lot of injuries through his career and usually settled back in fairly quickly, less so as he has got older.

Kenny's not daft, he'll take on board from the medical staff as to exactly where Steven is, he will talk to Steven, they will assess everything and decide what they believe is best. What I do think is that if we can Gerrard anywhere near his best we can really start to motor this season.

I just get the impression that Stevie has been stuck in a vicious circle of coming back from injury too soon, playing when not fully fit and then picking up another injury followed by being rushed back too soon. In a very similar way to what happened to Aquilani at Roma. He was continually rushed back and was continually getting injured.

Then the cycle was broken and he was given a proper lay off after his injury, was given time to build up his fitness and he hasn't looked back since. It is now nearly two years since Aquilani had any injury of note and for a player who was continually getting injured that is a remarkable turnaround.

Personally that's what I would love to see us do with Stevie look at the bigger picture, look at the next two to three years not the next two to three weeks. What's the point of Stevie rushing back and picking up a recurrence of the groin injury or a secondary injury and then being out for months.

As you say John it might be Stevie who is the one desperate to get back playing and looking to cut corners but for me he has been back in full training for way too short a time to even contemplate throwing him back into the madness of the Premiership.   

[john_mac]

Kenny will know that though, biggest problem is that the only time to get a full pre-season in is, well, pre-season. Probably a bit better this season in that each additional week will only be one important game, so any additional rest does not neccessarily mean shedloads of games.

We'll see how we handle it but from what he has said, its fairly clear Kenny feels in control of the situation. Maybe that's because of the extra security he has in terms of his position within the club & with the fan base, I'm not sure, but it has not always been the casein the past.

[Niru Red4ever]

Can't wait to see him back - he was the player who resulted in me becoming a LFC fan.

He shouldn't be used week in and week out to keep him at his best.

[stjohns]

Think he might get on for a bit against Spurs if we're doing OK.

[bigbear]

Behave!

Maybe as a sub v Brighton Im thinking

But when hes fully match fit and chomping at the bit again whats the team? Where does he go??

If he's played a practice game and come through it anything like then he will be on the bench. Why wouldn't he be ? The boost he'll give to the squad is enormous.

[XabiArt]

Id have him on the bench tomorrow with no intention of playing him. Just to shit up Harry and Spurs.

[Eeyore]

If he's played a practice game and come through it anything like then he will be on the bench. Why wouldn't he be ? The boost he'll give to the squad is enormous.

Isn't that massively short term thinking though, wouldn't a fit and recuperated Gerrard being fit for the next two or three years outweigh any short term gain against Spurs. I would much rather he started and played sixty minutes against Brighton or Wolves than risk him doing a warm up, then sitting on the bench with the risk of his groin tightening and being thrown into the action at a minute or so's notice.

[John C]

I'd have him on the bench with a view of playing the last 10 mins irrespective of the score.
I think the first half only against Brighton is an ideal return imo.