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Re: Bundesliga 2011/2012
« Reply #920 on: April 15, 2012, 09:54:54 am »
8 points clear with 3 games left to play. That's it.
The last time Bayern missed two league titles in a row was in 1994 or something like that.
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Re: Bundesliga 2011/2012
« Reply #921 on: April 15, 2012, 10:09:33 am »
dortmund play fucking strange don't they?

absolutely no patience in the build up...just move the ball front as fast as possible...requires some amazing stamina
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Re: Bundesliga 2011/2012
« Reply #922 on: April 15, 2012, 11:57:21 am »
Lewandowski is such an amazing player; and didn't even know he existed 18 months back.

A signing from an smaller league on a low fee going on to become an world class player - reminds me of our own Agger signing.
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Re: Bundesliga 2011/2012
« Reply #923 on: April 15, 2012, 03:46:06 pm »
A shockingly poor season from Cologne continues. 3-0 against Gladbach and still over 30 minutes to play.
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« Reply #924 on: April 15, 2012, 04:18:07 pm »
Lewandowski is such an amazing player; and didn't even know he existed 18 months back.

A signing from an smaller league on a low fee going on to become an world class player - reminds me of our own Agger signing.
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Re: Bundesliga 2011/2012
« Reply #925 on: April 17, 2012, 02:23:17 am »

Hungry wolves of Dortmund win title and give Bayern a lesson in desire

Jürgen Klopp's low-budget Borussia Dortmund showed unity – and unlike Bayern Munich played with an insatiable will to win

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They tried winding them up, putting up an "Are you missing something?" banner alongside what looked like the remnants of a captured opposition flag. They tried ear-drum busting noise, whistling a thousand whistles. They tried some voodoo, too: 30 litres of pig blood were spilt outside the away supporters' stadium entrance. But nothing the Royal Blues did on and off the pitch, including taking an 11th-minute lead (Jefferson Farfán), could derail the runaway freight-train that Jürgen Klopp's side have been this season. The right-back Lukasz Piszczek's phenomenal equaliser (17min) and a goal from the second-half substitute Sebastian Kehl (63min) swung the match and effectively won the title for "Borussia Unstoppable" (Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung). At Schalke's Veltins-Arena, of all places.

Royal Blue attempts "to spit in our soup", as Klopp put it, might have been more successful on Saturday if their strikers had shown their usual accuracy. Both Klaas-Jan Huntelaar and the desert-bound Raúl missed good chances, however, to let Dortmund off the hook. "Looking at my team, you could sense how intense Wednesday [against Bayern Munich] had been and how intense it was today against a really strong opponent," said a triumphant Klopp. "We squeezed out the very last we still had in ourselves after this unbelievable week. At the end it was slightly fortunate but that's not too bad."

Final whistle euphoria gave way to pogo-dancing and caterpillar-forming: "German champions: only BVB," their supporters were singing. The only thing really missing was the trophy, a beer shower or at least mathematical certainty of the Meisterschaft. But the two more necessary points will surely be won over the course of the remaining three games. "We haven't achieved nothing yet" – the Borussia president Reinhard Rauball's overly cautious opinion was, for once, contradicted by the ecstatic Klopp. "You can't win everything at a canter over the course of such a long season," said the 44-year-old, "maybe two, three teams in the world could do it but not in Germany. But [a record] 25 games unbeaten – that's insane. It was inconceivable that we would do that."

If staying at the top is indeed harder than getting there, then Dortmund's successful title defence is even more impressive and surprising than last year's start-to-finish dominance. The win at Schalke didn't quite showcase the attacking prowess of Robert Lewandowski and Shinji Kagawa but was testament to the kind of application and physical commitment that is unrivalled in Europe, Antonio Conte's hard-working Juventus notwithstanding. Theirs is the sock-destroying football of the credit crunch, borne out of the need to get ahead by sheer sweat and innovation, without the sort of resources that buy you the ability to make mistakes.

It's not just that they want it more than their opponents during games: "wanting it" is their game. Dortmund are constantly chasing something at a million miles per hour, whether it's the ball, the opposition, space or the goal, and they rarely allow themselves a breather. A substitution best summed up their incredibly intensity. Marathon man Lars Bender, just back from injury, didn't have his usual stamina and asked Klopp to hook him off at half-time. "It was a match at 120 kilometres but I could only do 90," the midfielder explained.

"Greed at the highest level" is how Klopp put it on Saturday, while others, such as their former coach Ottmar Hitzfeld praised their never-ending "hunger". Dortmund didn't play like champions nor like champions-elect as Bayern's did, but like a team that had never won anything significant before and couldn't wait to taste victory. They should go down as the Insatiables in Bundesliga history.

Even the Bayern president Uli Hoeness agreed that Dortmund had been "the hungrier team" over the course of the season, but that compliment was a back-handed one. "I will only tell them "chapeau" [respect] when they can perform like this in the league and in Europe," said the 60-year-old, implying that Bayern players had been too preoccupied with the Champions League to perform with Dortmund-like urgency.

One suspects that Klopp is more than happy that the media and Bayern, their German Cup final opposition, are concentrating on his team's mental and physical staying power. That way, less light is shed on his superlative tactics. Without the perfect synchronicity of attack, midfield and defence, all that "wanting" would just be aimless roving, not laser-guided "hunt football", as Süddeutsche Zeitung described it. Everything fitted so well together that one could become a believer in Intelligent Design: Dortmund have a young, talented team who follow their young, talented manager with cult-like fervour. They have fanatical, patient fans, a supportive local press and they're a club that have learned from their excesses in the past to invest smartly in up-and-coming players rather than in the finished superstar articles.

"They had to do it that way because they don't have the money," Hoeness said sourly in a Sky interview, before changing tack and accusing the Dortmund general manager Hans-Joachim Watzke of hypocrisy. "He should stop talking about them being poor and us being rich, otherwise he will be the new [former Werder Bremen chief] Willi Lemke. He shouldn't tell fairytales about their whole team costing only €45m in wages."

Watzke coolly pointed to officially audited numbers that backed up the claim, then pleaded for less aggro. "We should get away from the idea that you need to hammer someone in order to show him your respect," he said.

Hoeness also said Dortmund didn't have any world-class players. That's surely debatable but even if it was true, it would only reflect superbly on the work Klopp and his side have done. Where it gets interesting is next season. With key players' wages set to be increased again and more high-profile names like Marco Reus coming in, can Dortmund keep playing like a pack of starving wolves? Should they indeed keep playing that way in the light of their failure on the European stage?

"'Stay hungry' is a recipe for success but an inhuman demand at the same time," wrote FAZ, "because feeling full after success is the most natural feeling in the world." Only time will tell if money, success and better players, the very things that are widely seen as integral to every club's well-being, will take this Dortmund to another level or slowly, invisibly undermine their resolve.

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Re: Bundesliga 2011/2012
« Reply #926 on: April 19, 2012, 10:21:29 am »
Raul will leave Schalke at the end of the season according to Schalke's homepage.
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Re: Bundesliga 2011/2012
« Reply #927 on: April 20, 2012, 07:58:47 pm »
So if Bayern lose or draw tomorrow and/or Dortmund win, Dortmund will be champions.

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Re: Bundesliga 2011/2012
« Reply #928 on: April 21, 2012, 09:48:36 am »
Hopefully Bayern win today, so that we still have something to play for tonight. I don't want the league to be decided before our game against Gladbach even started.
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Re: Bundesliga 2011/2012
« Reply #929 on: April 21, 2012, 10:40:26 am »
"Low-budget Dortmund" !

The same Dortmund that out bid Munich for Reus.

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Re: Bundesliga 2011/2012
« Reply #930 on: April 21, 2012, 12:18:24 pm »
"Low-budget Dortmund" !

The same Dortmund that out bid Munich for Reus.

Their highest ever transfer fee by some distance. Also the player turned Bayern down, not because of the pay package. Not to mention that this "out bid" could easily be recuperated and then some through the sale of any of Hummels, Subotic, Kagawa, Götze or Lewandowski. They have CL money, an 80k capacity stadium and Bundesliga TV revenues just went up by 40% And despite all that. Dortmund still spent less on Reus than Bayern on a fucking goal keeper!
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« Reply #931 on: April 21, 2012, 12:32:50 pm »
Their highest ever transfer fee by some distance. Also the player turned Bayern down, not because of the pay package. Not to mention that this "out bid" could easily be recuperated and then some through the sale of any of Hummels, Subotic, Kagawa, Götze or Lewandowski. They have CL money, an 80k capacity stadium and Bundesliga TV revenues just went up by 40% And despite all that. Dortmund still spent less on Reus than Bayern on a fucking goal keeper!
Amoroso cost them 50 Million DM (25 Million Euros). The 17 Million for Reus is also in Euros. Still agree with everything else you posted. Don't think they'll spend more than 5 Million for any player they bring in over the summer. Exception will be if they sell someone in the summer. Hope they can hold on to Lewandowski and Kagawa, the only players I feel could leave for personal reasons and the only players who don't have a long term contract with the club.
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Re: Bundesliga 2011/2012
« Reply #932 on: April 21, 2012, 12:56:08 pm »
Amoroso cost them 50 Million DM (25 Million Euros). The 17 Million for Reus is also in Euros. Still agree with everything else you posted. Don't think they'll spend more than 5 Million for any player they bring in over the summer. Exception will be if they sell someone in the summer. Hope they can hold on to Lewandowski and Kagawa, the only players I feel could leave for personal reasons and the only players who don't have a long term contract with the club.

Yeah I know they went completely over the top in the late 90's and early 00's. I mean after the near financial oblivion and the (what will no doubt be called) Klopp era. They've spent very little, paying relatively low wages with one of the youngest squads in Europe and their success has truly been phenomenal
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Re: Bundesliga 2011/2012
« Reply #933 on: April 21, 2012, 03:13:52 pm »
Hertha's definitely going down. Jesus...
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Re: Bundesliga 2011/2012
« Reply #934 on: April 21, 2012, 03:45:41 pm »
"Low-budget Dortmund" !

The same Dortmund that out bid Munich for Reus.
Did they? I thought they just paid the release clause and Reus chose to go there?

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« Reply #935 on: April 21, 2012, 03:48:06 pm »
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Re: Bundesliga 2011/2012
« Reply #936 on: April 21, 2012, 03:49:38 pm »
Bayern 1-0 down, seems Dortmund will be crowned without even touching a ball today.
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Re: Bundesliga 2011/2012
« Reply #937 on: April 21, 2012, 04:36:09 pm »
Bayern came back to win 2-1! All down to Dortmund against Monchengladbach now.

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« Reply #938 on: April 21, 2012, 05:35:33 pm »
Dortmund-Gladbach on now. Chance for Dortmund to repeat as German champions.
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Re: Bundesliga 2011/2012
« Reply #939 on: April 21, 2012, 05:44:31 pm »
Decent English-language stream here: http://www.sportlemon.tv/wv-2/18/190/v-399087.html

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« Reply #940 on: April 21, 2012, 05:56:22 pm »
Extraordinary scramble in the Gladbach box, no goal though
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« Reply #941 on: April 21, 2012, 06:37:16 pm »
Decent English-language stream here: http://www.sportlemon.tv/wv-2/18/190/v-399087.html

Has that stream gone off for anyone else?

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« Reply #942 on: April 21, 2012, 06:39:13 pm »
Has that stream gone off for anyone else?

Yeah, me too.

Just found this one: English again, but a bit jittery so far. http://www.lshunter.tv/streams/1/lshtv15.html

EDIT: This one seems better: http://www.lshunter.tv/streams/1/lshtv13.html
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Re: Bundesliga 2011/2012
« Reply #943 on: April 21, 2012, 06:48:32 pm »
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« Reply #944 on: April 21, 2012, 06:52:10 pm »
And Klopp picks up Kagawa for a big hug during the celebrations! 
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« Reply #945 on: April 21, 2012, 06:53:48 pm »
Yeah, me too.

Just found this one: English again, but a bit jittery so far. http://www.lshunter.tv/streams/1/lshtv15.html

EDIT: This one seems better: http://www.lshunter.tv/streams/1/lshtv13.html

Cheers mate. I'm watching this one here, good quality, but it's in German!

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« Reply #946 on: April 21, 2012, 07:31:37 pm »
Dortmund champs again. Congratulations, well deserved.
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« Reply #947 on: April 21, 2012, 07:40:53 pm »
Dortmund champs again. Congratulations, well deserved.

Dortmund really play some class football.  Well deserved, they were looking out of it before Christmas but they pushed through.

Really impressed with Klopp.  And it would be a dream for us to get Kagawa.  I could see him playing the David Silva type role for us.

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« Reply #948 on: April 21, 2012, 07:54:08 pm »
Congrats Dortmund!

Would love to see Klopp here one day.

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« Reply #949 on: April 21, 2012, 09:01:34 pm »
Congrats to Dortmund. Fussballhauptstadt.

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« Reply #950 on: April 21, 2012, 09:07:22 pm »
Well done BVB! Der der der der (just because they're German :D )

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« Reply #951 on: April 21, 2012, 09:27:18 pm »
Congratulations!
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« Reply #952 on: April 21, 2012, 09:32:44 pm »
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« Reply #953 on: April 22, 2012, 12:23:46 am »
Was having this argument earlier, Kroos or Ozil?

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« Reply #954 on: April 22, 2012, 03:50:06 am »
Was having this argument earlier, Kroos or Ozil?

Ozil is the better player.
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« Reply #955 on: April 22, 2012, 05:38:36 am »
Was having this argument earlier, Kroos or Ozil?

I prefer Kroos.
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« Reply #956 on: April 22, 2012, 09:09:31 am »
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #957 on: April 22, 2012, 09:47:07 am »
The Dortmund fans were fabulous last night. Congrats to everybody at the club.

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« Reply #958 on: April 22, 2012, 09:51:59 am »
Congratulations Dortmund, I hope they make an impact in next years UCL competition and show Europe how good they really are, because they play probably the most exciting football in Europe. They also missed Gotze for the last 3 months, brilliant achievement.
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« Reply #959 on: April 22, 2012, 12:47:28 pm »
and the master of this bastards psychopath juergen klopp, who attack every game the 4th official.

what a unsympathetic club.

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