Author Topic: Lucas’ critical role for Liverpool (Read 555456 times)

Sangria · « **Reply #5040 on:** November 18, 2011, 09:57:32 am »

It's his Moldovan ancestry I think. Presumably western Europeans would have a nastier streak in them. Remember, skills pay the bills.

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=279021.msg9496560#msg9496560

1021 · « **Reply #5041 on:** November 18, 2011, 10:00:59 am »

Moldovans are friendly sorts.

scatman · « **Reply #5042 on:** November 18, 2011, 10:44:14 am »

nice interview, love the lad.

doc_antonio · « **Reply #5043 on:** November 18, 2011, 10:52:30 am »

lucas is a good man, always looking to improve, much respect for the man.

mulhergremista · « **Reply #5044 on:** November 19, 2011, 08:48:35 pm »

I don~t know how to treat these nonsense about Moldovan parents.. His mother was born in RS , her family came from Italy, her maiden name is Pezzini, obviously Italian. His father has the name Leiva, which can be find in Spain, there is even a town in the Rioja region in spain named Leiva. You find this name also in some Latin American countries. He was born in Brazil and his blue eyes and blond hair are quit common in south Brasil, you sure have heard of the super model Gisele. She is from the south too.

You can write this nonsense Moldova story 1,000 times , it does not make it true, and I have nothing against Moldova. He was born and brought up in Brazil, he is Brazilian, like it or not.
What is a true Brazilian? Brazil is an immigrant country, the "true" natives have been partly extint, and the rest mixed up with European and african slaves.. Some of them are from the converted Jews that fled to Brazil from the inquisition on the 16 sentury, and I could go on. In the South the climate is milder so the italian and German immigrants came mostly there. (Mano Menezes, for example has mother of german origin ) In RS you have Oktoberfest, towns like Novo hamburgo , Blumenao..
His home town Dourados in in Mato grosso do Sur (MS) He only spent his early childhood there, he went to the Interior of SP to afootball boarding school, at 15 he came to Gremio wher he spent some of his forming years.
He is a true Brazilian, true Southern Brazilian, as was his uncle (Frome the father side) Leivinha, deminutive for Leiva..
Sorry to bother you with all this, but Moldova??
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The 5th Benitle · « **Reply #5045 on:** November 19, 2011, 09:09:46 pm »

Mulher, you really do take things too seriously

new-red · « **Reply #5046 on:** November 19, 2011, 09:21:53 pm »

Quote from: The 5th Benitle on November 19, 2011, 09:09:46 pm

Mulher, you really do take things too seriously

fo shizzle.

farawayred · « **Reply #5047 on:** November 19, 2011, 09:38:09 pm »

Mulher, you didn't mention anything about your Bulgarian president... Now I'm offended...

mulhergremista · « **Reply #5048 on:** November 19, 2011, 10:18:58 pm »

Fo shizzle?

?? Your English is beyond my level..

Anyhow, This thread with the Moldova story and some really untasty racist remark about Lucas were taken seriously by the moderators who locked the thread.

Vidocq · « **Reply #5049 on:** November 20, 2011, 01:24:55 am »

whats wrong being moldovian?

Indian Scouser · « **Reply #5050 on:** November 20, 2011, 04:34:25 am »

Quote from: Vidocq on November 20, 2011, 01:24:55 am

whats wrong being moldovian?

It means he doesn't have true "Brazilian mad skillz".

new-red · « **Reply #5051 on:** November 20, 2011, 07:53:25 am »

Quote from: Vidocq on November 20, 2011, 01:24:55 am

whats wrong being moldovian?

Everything.

Or nothing, I dont know.

Liverbird 2010 · « **Reply #5052 on:** November 20, 2011, 12:14:58 pm »

Quote from: mulhergremista on November 19, 2011, 10:18:58 pm

Fo shizzle??? Your English is beyond my level..

Anyhow, This thread with the Moldova story and some really untasty racist remark about Lucas were taken seriously by the moderators who locked the thread.

Wow paranoid or what?

Pistolero · « **Reply #5053 on:** November 20, 2011, 12:30:10 pm »

Quote from: TH on November 17, 2011, 06:22:13 am

During the first 35 minutes of Swansea game, Lucas was fucking immense. Had we took our chances, we'd be praising our attackers. As we didn't, we blamed our central midfield for lack of creativity.. Football can be harsh sometimes.

On the whole, we've played well since the Spurs debacle, but Immense is one of the last words Id be using to describe anyone in Red in that game......a very poor all round team display....hopefully the criticism that followed - and the Luis situation - may galvanize them into getting back on track today

Cadno · « **Reply #5054 on:** November 20, 2011, 05:55:56 pm »

Decent first half but pretty anonomous in the second half, couple of good interceptions and tackles but him and in fact the whole team looked to have run out of steam in the second half.

Phil M · « **Reply #5055 on:** November 20, 2011, 05:59:24 pm »

Quote from: Cadno on November 20, 2011, 05:55:56 pm

Decent first half but pretty anonomous in the second half, couple of good interceptions and tackles but him and in fact the whole team looked to have run out of steam in the second half.

He never stopped working. The whole team got pushed back predictably and Lucas acted like a sweeper almost in front of the back 4, I'd be interested to see a position map as I reckon he was situated within 10 yds off our box for much of the second half.
Anonymous my arse.

El Denzel Pepito · « **Reply #5056 on:** November 20, 2011, 05:59:48 pm »

BOSS!!!!!!!!!

worthers · « **Reply #5057 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:00:01 pm »

Was worried after he got booked in 1st half. Thought he might have been sent off if Chelsea upped their game.

Didi_ram · « **Reply #5058 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:00:12 pm »

Absofucking boss.;

Cadno · « **Reply #5059 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:01:54 pm »

Quote from: Phil M on November 20, 2011, 05:59:24 pm

He never stopped working. The whole team got pushed back predictably and Lucas acted like a sweeper almost in front of the back 4, I'd be interested to see a position map as I reckon he was situated within 10 yds off our box for much of the second half.
Anonymous my arse.

Dont get me wrong he was good in defence but he did not do much with the ball in the second half, he also did not cover Johnson as much as he normally does and Johnson was absolutely taken apart for most of the second half. You could be right and he might have been under instuction but I have seen him play far better than that

Fordy · « **Reply #5060 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:02:27 pm »

Quote from: Cadno on November 20, 2011, 05:55:56 pm

Decent first half but pretty anonomous in the second half, couple of good interceptions and tackles but him and in fact the whole team looked to have run out of steam in the second half.

He wasn't anonomous mate- he was on a booking and Chelsea was always going to come out fighting in the 2nd half.

Lucas and Adam were boss today.

redforlife · « **Reply #5061 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:02:37 pm »

He's just consistently great

Every other minute I'm sat there shouting great tackle Lucas, well in Lucas, nice one Lucas. Only when we're playing though, I don't do it the rest of the time

But he's involved in so much of our play, his confidence is soaring, long may it continue

Cadno · « **Reply #5062 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:04:35 pm »

Quote from: Fordy on November 20, 2011, 06:02:27 pm

He wasn't anonomous mate- he was on a booking and Chelsea was always going to come out fighting in the 2nd half.

Lucas and Adam were boss today.

On reflection quiet should have been the word I used and not anonomous.

Of course I fully understand the reason with the booking and the pressure we were under

Ultimate Bromance · « **Reply #5063 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:04:46 pm »

Need a gif of that sublime piece of skill around 15 minutes in.

mulhergremista · « **Reply #5064 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:04:59 pm »

Quote from: Liverbird 2010 on November 20, 2011, 12:14:58 pm

Wow paranoid or what?

You anlyzed my mental situation, bu did not answer the qyestion what dos fo shizzle means. What a genious.. better go to that thread and read the posts in question. I did not want to quote them here because they too detestable.
So before analyzung my mental state, better look up tohose posts, I recomend anty-vomiting tablets at hand.

We have won the game against Chelsea, I will not let worms to ruin my good mood today.

Phil M · « **Reply #5065 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:06:56 pm »

Quote from: Cadno on November 20, 2011, 06:01:54 pm

Dont get me wrong he was good in defence but he did not do much with the ball in the second half, he also did not cover Johnson as much as he normally does and Johnson was absolutely taken apart for most of the second half.

That's Dirk Kuyt's job moreso than Lucas.

Cadno · « **Reply #5066 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:10:03 pm »

Quote from: Phil M on November 20, 2011, 06:06:56 pm

That's Dirk Kuyt's job moreso than Lucas.

True but its a big feature of Lucas's game that he covers his fullbacks really well.

Anyways Im not saying he had a bad game just that he was quiet for a lot of the second half whilst getting on with his job

Beninger · « **Reply #5067 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:12:03 pm »

He had to reel himself in a bit, pulling out of challenges, because of his yellow. He's always in the right position though. I didn't see a problem with his performance today.

Mad Men · « **Reply #5068 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:12:39 pm »

I thought he was outstanding for us today...covered a hell of a lot of ground today...anyone got any stats on how many kilometers he covered from start to finish today?

I thought at times in the second half, he was practically running a one man show in the middle of the park trying to stem the Chelsea tide.

Phil M · « **Reply #5069 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:13:31 pm »

Quote from: Cadno on November 20, 2011, 06:10:03 pm

True but its a big feature of Lucas's game that he covers his fullbacks really well.

Anyways Im not saying he had a bad game just that he was quiet for a lot of the second half whilst getting on with his job

Well you said you thought he was anonymous earlier, how could he be so if he was "getting on with his job"?

Stop looking for reasons to criticise the lad, Maxi and Adam were also quiet for parts of the game but when it mattered they stepped up as did Lucas Leiva and as someone already said he had to be careful being on a yellow.

Cadno · « **Reply #5070 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:16:54 pm »

Quote from: Phil M on November 20, 2011, 06:13:31 pm

Well you said you thought he was anonymous earlier, how could he be so if he was "getting on with his job"?

Stop looking for reasons to criticise the lad, Maxi and Adam were also quiet for parts of the game but when it mattered they stepped up as did Lucas Leiva and as someone already said he had to be careful being on a yellow.

Lol not looking for reasons to criticse, look at my post history I am a massive fan of him but I have seen him play better even on a yellow in matches.

BCCC · « **Reply #5071 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:17:36 pm »

On route to becoming one of the best of his generation in this role.

Phil M · « **Reply #5072 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:18:03 pm »

Quote from: Cadno on November 20, 2011, 06:16:54 pm

Lol not looking for reasons to criticse, look at my post history I am a massive fan of him but I have seen him play better even on a yellow in matches.

Fair enough.

Pistolero · « **Reply #5073 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:20:31 pm »

Lucas had an excellent game..but pipped to MOTM by his midfield partner......easily the best they've played as a duo all season....hats off to the pair of them

What's the procedure Mr Mod? · « **Reply #5074 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:23:16 pm »

Lucas is second on the team sheet behind Pepe. He's world class at his trade, in my opinion.

You can't be at 100% all the time, but I rec he had a good game today anyway, surprised dome having a dig. He and Adam seem to be gelling really well, Adam shone today actually maybe that's why, people looking for a way to get a good moan off their chest.

Lucas consistently puts a shift in and performs really well for us doing a really difficult job. Should be captain in my eyes, don't like keeper captains.

Liverbird 2010 · « **Reply #5075 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:30:36 pm »

Quote from: mulhergremista on November 20, 2011, 06:04:59 pm

You anlyzed my mental situation, bu did not answer the qyestion what dos fo shizzle means. What a genious.. better go to that thread and read the posts in question. I did not want to quote them here because they too detestable.
So before analyzung my mental state, better look up tohose posts, I recomend anty-vomiting tablets at hand.

We have won the game against Chelsea, I will not let worms to ruin my good mood today.

What are you talking about? Stop getting your knickers in a twist over nothing.

Back to the game Luiz is a c*nt for getting Lucas booked rolling around like that when they had agreed to donate food to charity.

Prof · « **Reply #5076 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:36:47 pm »

Did anyone else notice two seperate moments when he was crowded in possession and pulled out a couple of tricks to buy space and keep possession? Very Brazilian of him ;-)

If anyone can find the clips, I'd be grateful.

Adeemo · « **Reply #5077 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:46:43 pm »

Quote from: Prof on November 20, 2011, 06:36:47 pm

Did anyone else notice two seperate moments when he was crowded in possession and pulled out a couple of tricks to buy space and keep possession? Very Brazilian of him ;-)

If anyone can find the clips, I'd be grateful.

Yeah, he produced a couple of outstanding bits of skill and made them look incredibly easy in the process.

Ben_ · « **Reply #5078 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:47:20 pm »

Quote from: Prof on November 20, 2011, 06:36:47 pm

Did anyone else notice two seperate moments when he was crowded in possession and pulled out a couple of tricks to buy space and keep possession? Very Brazilian of him ;-)

If anyone can find the clips, I'd be grateful.

Yep, both were brilliant.

He is a colossus, quite simply.

spinaltapped · « **Reply #5079 on:** November 20, 2011, 07:12:17 pm »

I loved Lucas incorporating flair into his very uncomplicated play. He isn't like most players that use flair to show off or to make the other player look ridiculous, he did it only when it was going to be effective and when it gave him space to play his game. He's got the defensive mid position down, might as well add some flash before getting off another millimeter perfect pass if you're able.