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Re: Dave's TV Snobbery Topic with added Low Brow Self Indulgences
« Reply #15840 on: March 9, 2024, 08:51:29 pm »
The Gentlemen came out on Netflix yesterday, and I watched the first couple. Guy Ritchie created it, and wrote some episodes and directed some. It reminds of Lock Stock and Snatch, as it’s very stylised and deals with criminals. It’s so stylised it’s almost as if Ritchie is parodying Ritchie. Most of the characters are caricatures, and there are not many to actually like.

That probably sounds really negative, but I am actually enjoying it!
I started watching this and was reminded straight away of the Dutch drama, Hollands Hoop. The same premise, except in the Dutch version it's a forensic psychiatrist who makes an unexpected career change when he inherits his father's mansion in Groningen where he becomes involved with a criminal organization with a marijuana plantation on his father's land. Hollands Hoop was good, hopefully The Gentlemen can live up to it.

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Re: Dave's TV Snobbery Topic with added Low Brow Self Indulgences
« Reply #15841 on: March 10, 2024, 09:28:58 am »
Watched that programme G’Wed set in Liverpool. Once you get past the dodgy accents it’s actually very funny but it made me feel like Mary Whitehouse. Absolutely shocking filth for a programme set in a school. Girls giving lads their knickers to wank over in the break. One girl had a compendium of dick pics on her phone she had collected by conning lads into sending non reciprocal nudes. All openly having sex. What had me crying laughing though was when a lad asked his Mum and Dad to pretend to be devout Muslims to impress a girl and they took the piss. Lots of LFC references and some sound politics. I suppose a lot changes in 35 years and I’m not the audience but I struggle to believe kids act/talk like that.

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« Reply #15842 on: March 10, 2024, 09:36:13 am »
I'm crawling my way through True Detective: Night Country and my interest started to wane between episode 2 and 3. I'm up to date now but it feels like I'm only watching it get it done with. I must have been looking at my phone during some episodes because I am lost. There's too much going on and I'm losing track of who's who. It's probably not helping if I'm not that interested in it. It's not a patch on Seasons 1 and 3.

I thought it was absolutely brilliant but other half stopped watching after 2.
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« Reply #15843 on: March 10, 2024, 11:26:43 am »
I can't deal with weekly episodes of Shogun. I need them all asap.

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Re: Dave's TV Snobbery Topic with added Low Brow Self Indulgences
« Reply #15844 on: March 10, 2024, 11:57:27 am »
I can't deal with weekly episodes of Shogun. I need them all asap.

Thought the third episode was good but didn't quite hit the heights of the first two.

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I understand it kept the plot moving but I didn't find it as interesting as the opening two. Best parts were towards the end, Toranaga was negotiating with Portuguese and then the ending once they got out of Osaka.

Still enjoyed it overall though
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« Reply #15845 on: March 10, 2024, 12:35:30 pm »
Thought the third episode was good but didn't quite hit the heights of the first two.

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I understand it kept the plot moving but I didn't find it as interesting as the opening two. Best parts were towards the end, Toranaga was negotiating with Portuguese and then the ending once they got out of Osaka.

Still enjoyed it overall though
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Agreed with all of that. I don't know if my viewpoint is tempered with going to watch it weekly now though. Looking forward to next episode however.

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Lady Mariko losing her husband was the most predictable thing so far and a tad irritating.
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« Reply #15846 on: March 10, 2024, 01:09:56 pm »
Agreed with all of that. I don't know if my viewpoint is tempered with going to watch it weekly now though. Looking forward to next episode however.

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Lady Mariko losing her husband was the most predictable thing so far and a tad irritating.
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I didn't mind that, he hasn't been in it much so far and his character seemed a bit one dimensional.
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« Reply #15847 on: March 10, 2024, 06:37:21 pm »
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I didn't mind that, he hasn't been in it much so far and his character seemed a bit one dimensional.
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Probably because it's too "set up" Mariko & Blackthorns?
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« Reply #15848 on: March 10, 2024, 06:46:40 pm »
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Probably because it's too "set up" Mariko & Blackthorns?
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Yeah they're definitely going to get it on, unfortunately
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« Reply #15849 on: March 10, 2024, 06:53:59 pm »
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Yeah they're definitely going to get it on, unfortunately
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Definitely. No need for it.

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« Reply #15850 on: March 10, 2024, 08:12:52 pm »
Definitely. No need for it.

Book-related
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Buntaro makes it through the cordon of enemy in the book and returns. The tension between him, Mariko and Blackthorne was immense and intense in the book, would be surprised if the tv show simply kills him off...
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« Reply #15851 on: March 10, 2024, 08:32:24 pm »
Book-related
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Buntaro makes it through the cordon of enemy in the book and returns. The tension between him, Mariko and Blackthorne was immense and intense in the book, would be surprised if the tv show simply kills him off...
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Did not know that. Hope you are right!

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« Reply #15852 on: March 10, 2024, 08:33:22 pm »
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Re: Dave's TV Snobbery Topic with added Low Brow Self Indulgences
« Reply #15853 on: March 12, 2024, 12:47:25 am »
Bar a few shows, like Slow Horses et al, the quality of shows is dropping. They seem to be following an algorithm for content. For example, is it repeatable (thus sellable to other networks globally), therefore exclude, e.g., anything topical that would look weird in ten years; OR is it convoluted adequately for most viewers to want to avoid looking stupid by admitting they don't know what the fuck is going on (or that it is tedious); OR does it contain a serial killer AND it is "nuanced" to elicit sympathy from the average viewer towards the killer, e.g. use a beautiful actor to play an ordinary looking meff; OR does it have a twist every fucking 5 minutes.

Anything with a heist is automatically accepted. (UK) Regional accents are allowed if they are drug dealers, gangsters, or as long as there is enough poverty porn and some privileged, posh, actor to bring it out of the gutter. All upper class characters must be sexual deviants or geniuses.

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« Reply #15854 on: March 12, 2024, 06:34:18 am »
When the modern version of Shogun is finished I'm going to check out the 80s adaption of Shogun they must have done more of the story from the book or added their own story plots because it's 5 episodes each one is over 2 hours long a total running time of over 12 hour and it was a TV event when release they say one third of people tuned into it in the USA when 1 episode was shown each evening over 5 days

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« Reply #15855 on: March 12, 2024, 02:58:34 pm »
When the modern version of Shogun is finished I'm going to check out the 80s adaption of Shogun they must have done more of the story from the book or added their own story plots because it's 5 episodes each one is over 2 hours long a total running time of over 12 hour and it was a TV event when release they say one third of people tuned into it in the USA when 1 episode was shown each evening over 5 days

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Watched it about 5 times over the years so can say i like it,Chamberlain and Mifune do a good job as the male leads there.

For me it's more a talkative theatre play than movie/television but so was the book imo so it's faithful to the source material.


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« Reply #15856 on: March 12, 2024, 06:46:32 pm »
The Gentlemen came out on Netflix yesterday, and I watched the first couple. Guy Ritchie created it, and wrote some episodes and directed some. It reminds of Lock Stock and Snatch, as it’s very stylised and deals with criminals. It’s so stylised it’s almost as if Ritchie is parodying Ritchie. Most of the characters are caricatures, and there are not many to actually like.

That probably sounds really negative, but I am actually enjoying it!

Really enjoying this. Watched the first two a bit drunk and went back and watched them again and still enjoyed them. Classic Guy Ritchie in every way its made. Good solid British humour.

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« Reply #15857 on: March 12, 2024, 07:54:25 pm »
Shogun episode 4 – holy shit! Some of that felt like peak Game of Thrones. Best one yet.

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« Reply #15858 on: March 12, 2024, 07:58:02 pm »
Finished S1 of Succession last night.  My god, what a finale.

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« Reply #15859 on: March 12, 2024, 08:09:32 pm »
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« Reply #15860 on: March 12, 2024, 10:16:02 pm »
Finished S1 of Succession last night.  My god, what a finale.

S2 here I come.

oh yeah, Roman watching the satellite launch  :lmao

What I wouldn’t give to watch this for the first time again.

I watched the whole lot in about two weeks and as soon as I finished I started again and went straight back through it. It gets better every time.

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« Reply #15861 on: March 12, 2024, 10:23:17 pm »
Finished S1 of Succession last night.  My god, what a finale.

S2 here I come.

oh yeah, Roman watching the satellite launch  :lmao

I’m up to Season 3 Episode 9 now. And I’ve watched Season 4 so only got 2 episodes left that I haven’t seen before. Most distressing.

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« Reply #15862 on: March 13, 2024, 04:10:51 am »
Looking forward to this starting on March 21st adapted by Benioff and Weiss

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« Reply #15863 on: March 13, 2024, 09:55:20 pm »
Shogun episode 4 – holy shit! Some of that felt like peak Game of Thrones. Best one yet.
Was much better than the previous week. Last ten minutes in particular.

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« Reply #15864 on: March 14, 2024, 12:56:29 am »
Quite liked episode 4, but object strongly to the whole

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New technology/better cannon thing being superior to and better than "military tactics."

It was true that guns had existed in Japan before the Dutch arrived, good point from the tv show that Clavell glossed over in the novel. But the death of Jozen san in the book because he had seen the devastating damage that military units using concentrated volleyed firing could produce, was far superior to the tv series's cannon shot ambush, which plays into the modern cult of tech.

"Nebara Jozen had shown it. He had died badly, weeping with fear, begging for mercy, the killing slow and cruel. He had been allowed to run, then bayoneted carefully amidst laughter, then forced to run again and hamstrung. Then he had been allowed to crawl away, then gutted slowly while he screamed, his blood dribbling with the phlegm, then left to die... Later Jozen shrieked into life again. His frantic hands tried helplessly to remake his belly.

They left him to the dogs that had come up from the village."
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That would have been far better, in my opinion...
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Re: Dave's TV Snobbery Topic with added Low Brow Self Indulgences
« Reply #15865 on: March 14, 2024, 11:34:56 pm »
Just started watching Dark City: The Cleaner. Joe an overlooked cleaner by day, serial killer by night. When a copycat appears, Joe sets out to find him before the police do - but a potential victim turns the tables and Joe is now the prey. It's promising.

Taken the trailer down as there's a big plot reveal in it.

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« Reply #15866 on: March 15, 2024, 09:14:07 pm »
Two new series to consider.

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« Reply #15867 on: March 15, 2024, 09:31:42 pm »
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« Reply #15868 on: March 16, 2024, 06:57:43 am »
Watched the latest episode of Shogun last night and enjoyed makes you wonder how graphic the full scale battles are going to be.
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« Reply #15869 on: March 20, 2024, 09:36:29 am »
Looking forward to this starting on March 21st adapted by Benioff and Weiss

Snip.

I take it you're unaware of the adaptation that was released last year, from China. From what little I've seen it's good.

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« Reply #15870 on: March 20, 2024, 10:45:07 am »
Snip.

I take it you're unaware of the adaptation that was released last year, from China. From what little I've seen it's good.

Yes I remember that wasnt it released  at 1 episode a night for 30 days
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« Reply #15871 on: March 20, 2024, 10:53:19 am »
I have now watched all episodes of The Gentlemen.

I am not a big Guy Richie fan but I have to say that the series was very entertaining.
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« Reply #15872 on: March 20, 2024, 11:50:05 am »
I have now watched all episodes of The Gentlemen.

I am not a big Guy Richie fan but I have to say that the series was very entertaining.

Enjoyed it for the most part but (dont know why) the ending felt a bit out of character for the main protagonist.

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« Reply #15873 on: March 20, 2024, 11:56:27 am »
First three episodes of Shogun were really good, it's a huge production, great stuff so far.

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« Reply #15874 on: March 20, 2024, 12:05:12 pm »
Anyone tried Manhunt on Apple? Its about the killing of Abraham Lincoln and the hunt for John Wilkes Booth. It sounds right up my alley but Im not a fan of the one a week release thing so have to wait a while.

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« Reply #15875 on: March 20, 2024, 12:36:54 pm »
I'm sure it's been mentioned on this thread before, but Love/Hate on ITX is really good, especially if you've got withdrawal symptoms and missing Kin.

Really weird to see a 15 years younger Aidan Gillen in it though, if you watch it following Kin it's like he's ageing backwards like some sort of Irish Benjamin Button.
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« Reply #15876 on: March 20, 2024, 12:51:10 pm »
I'm sure it's been mentioned on this thread before, but Love/Hate on ITX is really good, especially if you've got withdrawal symptoms and missing Kin.

Really weird to see a 15 years younger Aidan Gillen in it though, if you watch it following Kin it's like he's ageing backwards like some sort of Irish Benjamin Button.

I watched that quite a few years ago and it's brilliant
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Re: Dave's TV Snobbery Topic with added Low Brow Self Indulgences
« Reply #15877 on: March 20, 2024, 01:20:58 pm »
Watched the 2017 drama "Fearless" on ITVx over the last few nights.  Stars the late great Helen McCrory as a rough and ready human rights lawyer.  Really good watch.

Man, what a loss to the acting world.  I think she would have gone on to be the next Helen Mirren or Judy Dench et al.  I honestly think she was destined to get some huge Hollywood leading roles.

Amazing talent aside, she was a beautiful woman too.  She pretty much had the lot  :(

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Re: Dave's TV Snobbery Topic with added Low Brow Self Indulgences
« Reply #15878 on: March 20, 2024, 02:33:06 pm »
I'm sure it's been mentioned on this thread before, but Love/Hate on ITX is really good, especially if you've got withdrawal symptoms and missing Kin.

Really weird to see a 15 years younger Aidan Gillen in it though, if you watch it following Kin it's like he's ageing backwards like some sort of Irish Benjamin Button.
And a very young Barry Keoghan as a {spoiler} not particularly pet-friendly chap.
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Re: Dave's TV Snobbery Topic with added Low Brow Self Indulgences
« Reply #15879 on: March 20, 2024, 02:41:28 pm »
Watched the 2017 drama "Fearless" on ITVx over the last few nights.  Stars the late great Helen McCrory as a rough and ready human rights lawyer.  Really good watch.

Man, what a loss to the acting world.  I think she would have gone on to be the next Helen Mirren or Judy Dench et al.  I honestly think she was destined to get some huge Hollywood leading roles.

Amazing talent aside, she was a beautiful woman too.  She pretty much had the lot  :(

Echo all that Pete. She was a wonderfully talented actor and an absolute force of nature. Sad loss indeed.


Anyone tried Manhunt on Apple? Its about the killing of Abraham Lincoln and the hunt for John Wilkes Booth. It sounds right up my alley but Im not a fan of the one a week release thing so have to wait a while.

Watched the first episode and thoroughly enjoyed it. I've read some criticism of the historical accuracy of it all but i found it very entertaining.