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General Manchester City thread
« on: May 8, 2011, 09:54:35 PM »
I'm just amazed at their shockingly shite return for the money they've spent. 384m net spent in the last four transfer windows, and they barely manage to grab fourth. Whichever way you put it, that's just abysmal. Who's in charge of buying players over there?

Just look at some of the players they've bought, and the prices
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/manchester-city-transfers.html
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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #1 on: May 8, 2011, 09:58:45 PM »
I'm not amazed because they've signed overated expensive shite like milner, barry, jo, lescott etc

Some players that had reputations when they bought them have failed to perform, robinho (dzeko so far) boateng

Without tevez it'd be interesting to see where they'd be.

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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #2 on: May 8, 2011, 10:05:59 PM »
Without tevez it'd be interesting to see where they'd be.

we'll find that out next season

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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #3 on: May 8, 2011, 10:06:37 PM »
It's all in context though isn't it. That money is meaningless, their owners have bottomless pockets. They'll be in the Champions League next season and they'll probably win the Cup next weekend. When you take their starting point into account that's about where I'd have expected them to be.
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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #4 on: May 8, 2011, 10:09:46 PM »
Edin Dzeko - 25m (1 goal in 12 games)
Gareth Barry - 18m (Puts a decent shift in but 18mil for a half decent CM, really?)
Emmanuel Adebayor - 25m (Half a decent season, bench warmed then loaned out)
Roque Santa Cruz - 18m (Played about 9 games, loaned out)
Wayne Bridge - 12m (Was OK for a bit then went really shit, loaned out.
Lescott - 24m (Been mostly decent but has had some shite games, again 24mil?)
Craig Bellamy - 16m (Cities POTS last year, but 16mil? Now loaned out due to Mancini)
Shaun Wright-Phillips - 10m (Shite, done fuck all)
Jo - 19m (See above)
Robinho - 32.5m (Half decent first season, shite 2nd. Sold for about a 12mil-15mil loss)
Ben Haim - 7m (Shite)

Total - 181.5m

Didn't include Milner as 12m + Ireland ain't bad considering how bad Ireland is.


Agree with Ryba, It's not  hard to see why they're so bad is it? They spend All that money and still lean on Tevez.
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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #5 on: May 8, 2011, 10:12:18 PM »
Edin Dzeko - 25mil (1 goal in 12 games)
Gareth Barry - 18mil (Puts a decent shift in but 18mil for a half decent CM, really?)
Emmanuel Adebayor - 25m (Half a decent season, bench warmed then loaned out)
Roque Santa Cruz - 18m (Played about 9 games, loaned out)
Wayne Bridge - 12mil (Was OK for a bit then went really shit, loaned out.
Lescott - 24mil (Been mostly decent but has had some shite games, again 24mil?)
Craig Bellamy - 16mil (Cities POTS last year, but 16mil? Now loaned out due to Mancini)
Shaun Wright-Phillips - 10mil (Shite, done fuck all)
Jo - 19mil (See above)
Robinho - 32.5mil (Half decent first season, shite 2nd. Sold for about a 12mil-15mil loss)
Ben Haim - 7mil (Shite)


Is it hard to see why?
That's what I was trying to point out. Aside from spending 50m on Torres, they couldn't have spent worst if they tried.

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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #6 on: May 8, 2011, 10:14:41 PM »
Edin Dzeko - 25m (1 goal in 12 games)
Gareth Barry - 18m (Puts a decent shift in but 18mil for a half decent CM, really?)
Emmanuel Adebayor - 25m (Half a decent season, bench warmed then loaned out)
Roque Santa Cruz - 18m (Played about 9 games, loaned out)
Wayne Bridge - 12m (Was OK for a bit then went really shit, loaned out.
Lescott - 24m (Been mostly decent but has had some shite games, again 24mil?)
Craig Bellamy - 16m (Cities POTS last year, but 16mil? Now loaned out due to Mancini)
Shaun Wright-Phillips - 10m (Shite, done fuck all)
Jo - 19m (See above)
Robinho - 32.5m (Half decent first season, shite 2nd. Sold for about a 12mil-15mil loss)
Ben Haim - 7m (Shite)

Total - 181.5m

Didn't include Milner as 12m + Ireland ain't bad considering how bad Ireland is.


Is it hard to see why?

Bellamy was brilliant, though. Loved watching him play when he was at City, during his top form. Can't understand why they made the decision to loan him out when he was, together with Tevez, perhaps the best player in the team. Same goes for Adam Johnson, why isn't he playing every game? He's boss.

I believe there are to many personal issues that comes into account when picking the team, because they make some strange calls at times.
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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #7 on: May 8, 2011, 10:17:45 PM »
I think when they make the CL they'll spend loads again. The amount of money they have, it will be hard for them not to over-spend as clubs will try and get as much money as they can off them. Them spending so stupidly just inflates the market, no wonder the it is so fucked up at the moment.


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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #8 on: May 8, 2011, 10:19:48 PM »

Imagine if Everton had that kind of money to spend.

It'd be the pomeranian's of war.

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« Reply #9 on: May 8, 2011, 10:21:29 PM »
Yah, posted it too early :P

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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #10 on: May 8, 2011, 10:23:20 PM »
Bellamy was brilliant, though. Loved watching him play when he was at City, during his top form. Can't understand why they made the decision to loan him out when he was, together with Tevez, perhaps the best player in the team. Same goes for Adam Johnson, why isn't he playing every game? He's boss.

I believe there are to many personal issues that comes into account when picking the team, because they make some strange calls at times.

Yeh Bellamy was boss, but they paid 16mil for a season effectively.

Did you hear about when he was loaned out? Apparently he was called in with a Director and Mancini. They offered him a year at Cardiff and he asked 'Can it just be six months?' when asked why by the director he replied 'because by then you will have sacked Mancini.

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« Reply #11 on: May 8, 2011, 10:26:12 PM »
Yeh Bellamy was boss, but they paid 16mil for a season effectively.

Did you hear about when he was loaned out? Apparently he was called in with a Director and Mancini. They offered him a year at Cardiff and he asked 'Can it just be six months?' when asked why by the director he replied 'because by then you will have sacked Mancini.
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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #12 on: May 8, 2011, 10:39:16 PM »
If that`s the case, would Rafa go there? Would love to see the faces
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« Reply #13 on: May 8, 2011, 10:40:23 PM »
I can see them going nuts in the Summer. Don't be surprised to see them make the first 100m pound signing.
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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #14 on: May 8, 2011, 10:41:14 PM »
With more ambition they could have really challenged for the title this season. Despite all the bad buys listed above they have enough quality but have settled for the easy option.

I can think of a lot of teams I'd rather play ahead of stoke when they've gone so long without a trophy. Is that a high pressure game for Mancini or will he be safe if he delivers top four?

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« Reply #15 on: May 8, 2011, 10:41:27 PM »
I've never understood why they sent Adebayor and Bellamy out on loan, but kept Jo.  He's looked dreadful every time I've seen him.  Mind you, he was bought before the current owners got there, wasn't he? 

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« Reply #16 on: May 8, 2011, 10:44:50 PM »
With more ambition they could have really challenged for the title this season.

Spot on mate.

They were spunking a wad just to get european cup football......which was weird considering the amount of coin they've thrown at it.
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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #17 on: May 8, 2011, 10:46:09 PM »
I think this will be their quietest transfer window to date, in terms of buying players anyway.

I think they'll try and get rid of quite a lot, players like Jo, Wright-Phillips, Bellamy, Boateng, Adebayor, Bridge... off the top of my head, i'm sure there's more.

I reckon they'll buy a few top players to slot into their first choice, and make sure the squad isn't as baggy as it has been in the past.

They don't need much really. A couple of full backs, a centre back, and maybe a striker. Which is madness really, considering how many they've signed.
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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #18 on: May 9, 2011, 12:49:24 AM »
I can see them doing something daft like blowing 50mil on Kaka or someone in the summer.

It just goes to show that all the money in the footballing world can't buy you a winning mentality and proper team spirit. Just look at their neighbours today...
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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #19 on: May 9, 2011, 12:57:47 AM »
Says it all really that they got rid of Bellamy and got Balotelli in. Bellamy might be a cuntbag but he gives it his all when he plays.

Tevez is a fighter and a driving force, David Silva is not only a creative player but he actually plays a team game. Vieira a few years ago would've been as he's a leader and a winner but now he's just in it for the final paycheck. Milner and Barry are just shit and don't do much to help their cause.

I think that if they buy players who actually want to win and not just collect a paycheck they could very well challenge for both domestic and European glory in 2-3 seasons
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« Reply #20 on: May 9, 2011, 12:59:58 AM »
How easy will it be for City to get rid of players though? They pay wages to players far more than what they're actually worth. What club will pay Adebayor, Bridge, etc the same or better wages than what they're currently on at City?
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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #21 on: May 9, 2011, 01:07:41 AM »
Edin Dzeko - 25m (1 goal in 12 games)
Gareth Barry - 18m (Puts a decent shift in but 18mil for a half decent CM, really?)
Emmanuel Adebayor - 25m (Half a decent season, bench warmed then loaned out)
Roque Santa Cruz - 18m (Played about 9 games, loaned out)
Wayne Bridge - 12m (Was OK for a bit then went really shit, loaned out.
Lescott - 24m (Been mostly decent but has had some shite games, again 24mil?)
Craig Bellamy - 16m (Cities POTS last year, but 16mil? Now loaned out due to Mancini)
Shaun Wright-Phillips - 10m (Shite, done fuck all)
Jo - 19m (See above)
Robinho - 32.5m (Half decent first season, shite 2nd. Sold for about a 12mil-15mil loss)
Ben Haim - 7m (Shite)

Total - 181.5m

Didn't include Milner as 12m + Ireland ain't bad considering how bad Ireland is.


Agree with Ryba, It's not  hard to see why they're so bad is it? They spend All that money and still lean on Tevez.

Think some of those fees are wrong. Barry was 12m. It was another club that was willing to pay 18m for that waster.


I know he's a good player but people forget they paid 17m odd for De Jong when he had six months remaining on his contract.
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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #22 on: May 9, 2011, 01:31:37 AM »
Edin Dzeko - 25m Will come good
Gareth Barry - 18m Overpaid to fuck us over so then Rafa had to spend 18m on Glen Johnson
Emmanuel Adebayor - 25m Shite mentality
Roque Santa Cruz - 18m Shite
Wayne Bridge - 12m Shite
Lescott - 24m Shite, massive forehead
Craig Bellamy - 16m Good player
Shaun Wright-Phillips - 10m Shite
Jo - 19m Shite
Robinho - 32.5m Shite
Ben Haim - 7m Shite

Total - 181.5m


Impressive incompetence. All that spending and they have... a fairly decent spine of Hart, Kompany, De Jong, Toure, Silva, Tevez
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« Reply #23 on: May 9, 2011, 01:57:00 AM »
People are forgetting there good signings though De Jong, Kompany, Silva, Yaya Toure. You could build a team around those four
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« Reply #24 on: May 9, 2011, 01:57:12 AM »
Good performance by the Khaleejis in charge. Here's hoping United get bought by Qataris and start throwing around large sums of money on the flavour of the month.

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« Reply #25 on: May 9, 2011, 02:10:36 AM »
People are forgetting there good signings though De Jong, Kompany, Silva, Yaya Toure. You could build a team around those four

Kompany was bought when he was 22 years old for 6m pounds, and didn't have anything to do with the current owners. Out of your list, that's the one transfer that is a coup. The rest -

De Jong - 26 years old, cost 18m pounds
Silva - 25 years old, 25m pounds
Yaya - 27 years old, 25m pounds

Paying top dollar for players peaking in ability and reputation in their mid-twenties is a very expensive way to build a team. You've almost 70m pounds worth of 3 players there; at that rate, a first XI will cost almost 300million pounds before wages.

It's not sustainable. It's not worth it. And it doesn't work.

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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #26 on: May 9, 2011, 02:15:01 AM »
If you can afford it then the money isn't an issue.

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« Reply #27 on: May 9, 2011, 02:19:56 AM »
Good performance by the Khaleejis in charge. Here's hoping United get bought by Qataris and start throwing around large sums of money on the flavour of the month.

I hope not. With Slurgie still around, he'll know what to do with their money.
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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #28 on: May 9, 2011, 02:33:59 AM »
If you can afford it then the money isn't an issue.

Not entirely true.

First of all, the fair play rules set to kick in make *sure* that it's at least a concern, if not an out and out "issue".

Secondly, the pleasure of pissing away a half billion a year must be worth the expenditure, since the owner isn't out for profit. Khaldoon is playing with around one-fifteenth of Mansour's net worth, if you include takeover costs, salaries, net transfers and capital expenditure. It's possible for whatever reason - economic conditions, political instability, oil prices, investment regulation, frightening levels of short term loss, and pure fucking boredom, that the taps may be tightened. If there is no management model behind "Yalla, jeeb Rolls Royce", even a temporary tightening of the investment spigots could result in disastrous consequences - no youth system, no budget bench, fat long-term contracts, huge accounts payable and spoiled fans are a recipe for disaster.

Finally, the track record of prudently managed teams have a greater claim to "chances created" than the boom-and-bust cycle typified by the Galactico model. Smart ownership is making a mark in worldwide sport at the current time, and those types of models - John Henry leading the list - will be tough to knock off the ball.

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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #29 on: May 9, 2011, 02:35:54 AM »
I hope not. With Slurgie still around, he'll know what to do with their money.

They won't listen to him.

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« Reply #30 on: May 9, 2011, 02:37:11 AM »
They won't listen to him.

But he's the greatest British manager ever.
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« Reply #31 on: May 9, 2011, 02:44:01 AM »
But he's the greatest British manager ever.



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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #32 on: May 9, 2011, 05:09:14 AM »
Well with any case in life, if you splash money first and then think, it's bound to fail. That's what City have done.

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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #33 on: May 9, 2011, 05:53:49 AM »
Awesome site that :) Minus Cisse from the 04/05 season and  Rafa only spent 15 million a year... 90 million in total.

Off topic I know but handy when confronted with some ignorant twat.

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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #34 on: May 9, 2011, 07:50:32 AM »
If that`s the case, would Rafa go there? Would love to see the faces
at O.T. if he did.

Yes please. Then it's going to feel like we've killed 2 birds with one stone whenever we beat them.

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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #35 on: May 9, 2011, 07:51:00 AM »
i hope they never win a game again this season!

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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #36 on: May 9, 2011, 08:36:51 AM »
Awesome site that :) Minus Cisse from the 04/05 season and  Rafa only spent 15 million a year... 90 million in total.

Off topic I know but handy when confronted with some ignorant twat.

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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #37 on: May 9, 2011, 08:45:04 AM »
Has been some very strange signings they have made indeed, more than likely they are I do not know second/third choices of what they initially thought they could land.  For all their money they have forked out they are not entirely playing as a unit and their football is nothing more than average.  They paid what was it for Lescott around 22 million and we got a few million more for the likes of the services of Alonso and then the mental monies they paid for the likes of Milner et al.
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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #38 on: May 9, 2011, 08:58:27 AM »
Its a disgusting way to run a club, absolutely zero team spirit or affiliation to the fans thats why they're still no where near where they could be.Players come in earn 200k a week, some have never heard of the club (Robinho), was reffered to as money city by Toure.

Once the owners get bored with this venture he'll move on, if Mancini is still in de job next season he'll be expected to win CL or league, he wont then he'll be sacked then someone else will come in and spend 250M on players again.

These deep-pocketed owners need to realise that it takes time to build a championship winning team, not 100's million of pounds. Shanks , Paisley, Fagan to Dalglish was a dynasty and text book way of how to run and build a club.

From everything FSG speak of its consistently long-term strategy to building up Liverpool back to the top, which I think is the correct strategy.

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Re: Manchester City
« Reply #39 on: May 9, 2011, 09:04:19 AM »
Ah remember when Mark Hughes said he deserved respect for trying to sign Ronaldihnio.