Topic: General Manchester City thread

[slaphead]

Wow. There's a bellend on the radio here. Some Man City podcast dickhead. This is what he said in relation to the video of the singing.
"I seen the gritty footage, I'm not sure it was even players singing it, could you pick out any players ?  Football is full of incidents of fans misbehaving, stoning buses, chucking people in fountains. The FA are not taking it any further, I dont think it was the players singing it"
Of course, he wasnt pulled up on it

[idontknow]

UAE

The United Arab Emirates’ intolerance of criticism continued in 2018 as authorities in May sentenced Ahmed Mansoor, an Emirati award-winning human rights activist, to a 10-year prison sentence for exercising his right to free expression. The government continues to arbitrarily detain and forcibly disappear individuals who criticize authorities.

The UAE maintains their leading role in the Saudi-led military coalition, which has conducted scores of unlawful attacks in Yemen. The UAE was implicated in detainee abuse at home and abroad.

Labor abuses persist. Migrant construction workers face serious exploitation. The UAE introduced a domestic workers law providing them labor rights for the first time in September 2017, but some provisions are weaker than those provided to other workers under the labor law.

The UAE continued to block representatives of international human rights organizations from visiting.

UAE authorities have launched a sustained assault on freedom of expression and association since 2011. The UAE arbitrarily detains and forcibly disappears individuals who criticize the authorities within the UAE’s borders. UAE residents who have spoken about human rights issues are at serious risk of arbitrary detention, imprisonment, and torture. Many are serving long prison terms or have left the country under pressure.

Foreign nationals account for more than 88.5 percent of the UAE’s population, according to 2011 government statistics. Many low-paid migrant workers remain acutely vulnerable to forced labor, despite some reforms.

The kafala (visa-sponsorship) system continues to tie migrant workers to their employers. Those who leave their employers can face punishment for “absconding,” including fines, prison, and deportation.

The UAE’s labor law excludes domestic workers, who face a range of abuses, from unpaid wages, confinement to the house, workdays up to 21 hours with no breaks, to physical or sexual assault by employers, from its protections. Domestic workers face legal and practical obstacles to redress.

Federal Law No. 28 of 2005 regulates personal status matters. Some of its provisions discriminate against women. For a woman to marry, her male guardian must conclude her marriage contract; men have the right to unilaterally divorce their wives, whereas a woman must apply for a court order to obtain a divorce; a woman can lose her right to maintenance if, for example, she refuses to have sexual relations with her husband without a lawful excuse; and women are required to “obey” their husbands. A woman may be considered disobedient, with few exceptions, if she decides to work without her husband’s consent.

UAE law permits domestic violence. Article 53 of the penal code allows the imposition of “chastisement by a husband to his wife and the chastisement of minor children” so long as the assault does not exceed the limits of Islamic law. Marital rape is not a crime. In 2010, the Federal Supreme Court issued a ruling, citing the penal code, that sanctions husbands’ beating and infliction of other forms of punishment or coercion on their wives, provided they do not leave physical marks.

Different emirates within the UAE’s federal system have laws that criminalize same-sex sexual relations, including Abu Dhabi, where “unnatural sex with another person” can be punished with up to 14 years in prison.

Nice eh

This is where your money is from

This is the post that should not be forgotten.
Well in, Black Bull Nova.

[Peabee]

Wow. There's a bellend on the radio here. Some Man City podcast dickhead. This is what he said in relation to the video of the singing.
"I seen the gritty footage, I'm not sure it was even players singing it, could you pick out any players ?  Football is full of incidents of fans misbehaving, stoning buses, chucking people in fountains. The FA are not taking it any further, I dont think it was the players singing it"
Of course, he wasnt pulled up on it

It must have been the airline stewards...

[andy07]

It must have been the airline stewards...

Could you imagine our players singing some plagiarised version of Blue Moon or some other City song?  Whether it was the air stewards, the kit manager, the physio or whoever is irrelevant.  It was sung lovingly by many on board.  Case closed.

[Peabee]

Could you imagine our players singing some plagiarised version of Blue Moon or some other Manchester City song?  Whether it was the air stewards, the kit manager, the physio or whoever is irrelevant.  It was sung lovingly by many on board.  Case closed.

No chance. We sing about ourselves and our own. Let them sing about us.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

It must have been the airline stewards...

surprised they didn’t claim it was another soundtrack on that video

Could you imagine our players singing some plagiarised version of Blue Moon or some other City song?  Whether it was the air stewards, the kit manager, the physio or whoever is irrelevant.  It was sung lovingly by many on board.  Case closed.

They’d need to get to a european cup final first

[Peabee]

surprised they didn’t claim it was another soundtrack on that video

Surprised they haven’t gone full Trump WH and edited a City song over it.

Oh, they don’t have any...

[slaphead]

It must have been the airline stewards...

Yeah, one of them a doppelganger for David Silva and all. If that was us, I would be fuming with the players as the huge majority of us would. And I certainly wouldn't try to claim it didn't happen. Haven't heard one City fan do the same. Not that they have many fans mind you

[Black Bull Nova]

Yeah, one of them a doppelganger for David Silva and all. If that was us, I would be fuming with the players as the huge majority of us would. And I certainly wouldn't try to claim it didn't happen. Haven't heard one City fan do the same. Not that they have many fans mind you

Liverpool was always a club where you expected the players to behave with a degree of class and dignity and they have, in the main (apologies for Neil Ruddock). I would be ashamed if LFC players sank as low as this, I suppose those with poor language skills may have had no idea what they were singing but no one looked uncomfortable. I love Manchester but there are (like our own city) a fair share of morons at large. That this is contagious to the players is not acceptable at this level.

The behaviour of Chelsea players (ie John Terry, 9/11, Hazard and the ball boy etc), maybe it's a money thing, after all the main reason for wanting to be a City player is big money and easy pickings.

[RAWK Meltdown #1]

Why go to a soulless shithole to lie on a beach knowing what its built on?

Reminds me of the time I went to Scarborough....

[TepidT2O]

Wow.

The men behind Man City.  Too long to post, but really worrying

https://medium.com/@NcGeehan/the-men-behind-man-city-a-documentary-not-coming-soon-to-a-cinema-near-you-14bc8e393e06

[rob1966]

Liverpool was always a club where you expected the players to behave with a degree of class and dignity and they have, in the main (apologies for Neil Ruddock). I would be ashamed if LFC players sank as low as this, I suppose those with poor language skills may have had no idea what they were singing but no one looked uncomfortable. I love Manchester but there are (like our own city) a fair share of morons at large. That this is contagious to the players is not acceptable at this level.

The behaviour of Chelsea players (ie John Terry, 9/11, Hazard and the ball boy etc), maybe it's a money thing, after all the main reason for wanting to be a City player is big money and easy pickings.

Emlyn sang "Liverpool are Magic, Everton are tragic", which was something sung on the Kop, in the heat of the moment at St Georges Hall in 1977. He realised his error and apologised for it the next day.

The c*nts go full on denial, would have just been easier to act like grown men and to say sorry.

[Medellin]

Wow.

The men behind Man City.  Too long to post, but really worrying

https://medium.com/@NcGeehan/the-men-behind-man-city-a-documentary-not-coming-soon-to-a-cinema-near-you-14bc8e393e06

When you think you are quite knowledgeable..
This & BBN's post!
Wow indeed.

[Phatz]

Wow.

The men behind Man City.  Too long to post, but really worrying

https://medium.com/@NcGeehan/the-men-behind-man-city-a-documentary-not-coming-soon-to-a-cinema-near-you-14bc8e393e06

This bit...

"Placing an abusive dictatorship under such bright spotlights is a high-risk strategy, as Pearce makes very clear, but he appears supremely confident of his ability to manage the reputational risks. He does this in three ways: firstly, by presenting the clubs’ owner as a wealthy benevolent businessman (Mansour), rather than an all-powerful statesman (MBZ); secondly by flooding the media with puff-pieces about how progressive the UAE is; and thirdly by attacking the credibility or the motives of groups and individuals who criticise the UAE’s abuses. Unfortunately, he’s very good at his job."

Who said this earlier in this thread? Whoever it was, was spot-on...

[Mighty Zeus]

When you think you are quite knowledgeable..
This & BBN's post!
Wow indeed.

That video of Mansour's brother, Sheikh Issa bin Zayed Al Nahyan, torturing that guy with the help of uniformed Abu Dhabi police is utterly surreal.

The reason that Sheikh Issa is relevant again is because of what happened after that tape was released.

Issa went to court. And of course, he was found innocent. The brothers who released the tape were convicted, in the same sitting, of blackmail in absentia.

These are the expectations of what the law is for and how courts should work when this family breaks the law. The interests of that family and the interests of the state are the same thing: they’re absolute rulers, and anything they do is automatically legal.

Every time you read something from Manchester City talking about courts and culpability, remember what ‘guilt’ means for them and what courts are for. How even torture is legal if it's them doing the torturing. Weird sponsorship is nothing.

[dirks digglers]

Wow.

The men behind Man City.  Too long to post, but really worrying

https://medium.com/@NcGeehan/the-men-behind-man-city-a-documentary-not-coming-soon-to-a-cinema-near-you-14bc8e393e06

Quite revealing that the sport journalists were worried about losing access if their investigative colleagues dug up too much dirt. This is a sad truth about the way sport reporting works, it’s equivalent to blackmail and means we end up with bland, generic sport reporting for fear of upsetting the access. It’s barely journalism at all.

[Red Ol]

Wow.

The men behind Man City.  Too long to post, but really worrying

https://medium.com/@NcGeehan/the-men-behind-man-city-a-documentary-not-coming-soon-to-a-cinema-near-you-14bc8e393e06

Wow. If anyone is lurking from Blue moon I dare you to open a thread to discuss this article. It would be astonishing if you could find anything positive to say about it.  So while you’re at it why don’t you create some banners for the FA cup final declaring your support of Gay rights, Gender equality and recognition of the State of Israel.  Protesting your owners doesn’t mean you don’t support your team. We live in a country where you can speak freely. I’m sure if we’d been taken over by DIC we would have had many loud dissenting voices.  Liverpool supporters have a history of highlighting the unacceptable within our own house (Standards Corrupted ….)     

…but you lot wont, will you. You’re blinded by your lottery windfall and you’ve been seduced by the Abu Dhabi PR machine.  Speak up or shame on you

[Ma Vie en Rouge]

That is a very disturbing article. Where are the mainstream journalists (and their editors) who are brave enough to write and publish something like that? It is pathetic that a desire for access to superstar footballers deters journalists from speaking truth. Football is being bought by some of the world's most iniquitous tyrants to attempt to provide PR cover for their horrible regimes, and no one really says a word in the mainstream press. Spineless.

[Lofty Ambitions]

That is a very disturbing article. Where are the mainstream journalists (and their editors) who are brave enough to write and publish something like that? It is pathetic that a desire for access to superstar footballers deters journalists from speaking truth. Football is being bought by some of the world's most iniquitous tyrants to attempt to provide PR cover for their horrible regimes, and no one really says a word in the mainstream press. Spineless.

What an awful read indeed. I started several sentences after that, but don't really know what to say.   

[rob1966]

Wow. If anyone is lurking from Blue moon I dare you to open a thread to discuss this article. It would be astonishing if you could find anything positive to say about it.  So while you’re at it why don’t you create some banners for the FA cup final declaring your support of Gay rights, Gender equality and recognition of the State of Israel.  Protesting your owners doesn’t mean you don’t support your team. We live in a country where you can speak freely. I’m sure if we’d been taken over by DIC we would have had many loud dissenting voices.  Liverpool supporters have a history of highlighting the unacceptable within our own house (Standards Corrupted ….)     

…but you lot wont, will you. You’re blinded by your lottery windfall and you’ve been seduced by the Abu Dhabi PR machine.  Speak up or shame on you

Little idea for the shirts they could get made up.

[red_Mark1980]

Emlyn sang "Liverpool are Magic, Everton are tragic", which was something sung on the Kop, in the heat of the moment at St Georges Hall in 1977. He realised his error and apologised for it the next day.

The c*nts go full on denial, would have just been easier to act like grown men and to say sorry.

It's plainly about Sean and Hillsborough, but if we take this lying corrupt football club at it's word that it wasn't.

The line "battered in the streets" basically it's OK for fans to get battered in the streets as long as we have plausible deniability that it has nothing to do with a man receiving life changing injuries.

Shameful, and they still bang on about the bloody bus

[Crosby Nick]

I wonder if they’ll keep singing it if we win in Madrid. They probably will knowing heir intelligence.

[Red Ol]

Little idea for the shirts they could get made up.

Oh yeah! Where Kitster when you need him? Shame they haven’t the guts or the imagination to do something similar. Maybe they could mock up a shirt with some protest messages, could even have stars of David instead of European cup stars and ……oh, hang on a minute

[CraigDS]

Emlyn sang "Liverpool are Magic, Everton are tragic", which was something sung on the Kop, in the heat of the moment at St Georges Hall in 1977. He realised his error and apologised for it the next day.

The c*nts go full on denial, would have just been easier to act like grown men and to say sorry.

I’d not really have taken issue if they’d have sung something similar to Hughes. It’s would be a little sad given we’re not really rivals in my eyes like us and Everton (esp back then) but just a bit of fun.

However it’s the inclusion of things like the victim line, about fans getting twated and one of their players injuring one of ours which is pathetic. 

[Qston]

That is a very disturbing article. Where are the mainstream journalists (and their editors) who are brave enough to write and publish something like that? It is pathetic that a desire for access to superstar footballers deters journalists from speaking truth. Football is being bought by some of the world's most iniquitous tyrants to attempt to provide PR cover for their horrible regimes, and no one really says a word in the mainstream press. Spineless.

I will try and find out who he was referring to, but I was talking to a friend who is from Ireland this morning and he mentioned that one of the well respected journalists there had prepared a big front page detailed report about the city owners and their 'non football related' record on the subjects we have been talking about. Apparently the editor was too spooked to go to press, presumably because of the power of who the reporter was taking aim at. I will try and find out more.

[Mighty Zeus]

Wow. If anyone is lurking from Blue moon I dare you to open a thread to discuss this article.

You’re blinded by your lottery windfall and you’ve been seduced by the Abu Dhabi PR machine.  Speak up or shame on you

They won't. They never will. This is never mentioned over there. Ever. It's totally, totally taboo.

The thing about the Abu Dhabi PR machine is interesting, though. They call their owner 'HRH' on BlueMoon. Success! But the owners have completely misunderstood British football culture, which in this instance is what's deciding global perception. As though you could buy a team, and buy Barcelona's manager, et voila you have Barcelona in east Manchester, hooray, everyone loves you for bringing a new Barcelona into the world!

Dudes. No.

[Iska]

Hazard and the ball boy

Come on, that’s one of the funniest things that’s ever happened on a football pitch, leave him out of this.  I defy you to watch that clip again without laughing.

[rob1966]

I’d not really have taken issue if they’d have sung something similar to Hughes. It’s would be a little sad given we’re not really rivals in my eyes like us and Everton (esp back then) but just a bit of fun.

However it’s the inclusion of things like the victim line, about fans getting twated and one of their players injuring one of ours which is pathetic. 

What they sang is far worse, can't deny that. What I was getting at was Hughes, even though what he sang was harmless. at least had the decency to apologise. This shower, knowing how disgraceful the words, plus the fact one of their own is still recovering from getting "battered in the streets", instead try to hide behind shit like "its a fan song". If they had sung a Munich song, would "oh its ok our fans sing it" be the excuse they came up with as well?

[CraigDS]

They won't. They never will. This is never mentioned over there. Ever. It's totally, totally taboo.

The thing about the Abu Dhabi PR machine is interesting, though. They call their owner 'HRH' on BlueMoon. Success! But the owners have completely misunderstood British football culture, which in this instance is what's deciding global perception. As though you could buy a team, and buy Barcelona's manager, et voila you have Barcelona in east Manchester, hooray, everyone loves you for bringing a new Barcelona into the world!

Dudes. No.

Yeah I’ve always found buying a football club for PR reasons, when you’re going to run it how they have City, a bit bizarre.

Yes you’ll turn the heads of the City fans and some fickle glory hunters, but in general you’re going to piss off a LOT more fans of other clubs who are never shy about being vocal about such things.

Could really see this back firing spectacularly if UEFA, FIFA, the FA & PL grow a backbone and start dishing out some serious punishments. Could really see the veil slip at City.

[SteveZissou]

I wonder if Guardiola would leave City if they get a UCL ban. A two-year ban should be enough to make him walk. A year ban he'd probably wait.

[CraigDS]

I wonder if Guardiola would leave City if they get a UCL ban. A two-year ban should be enough to make him walk. A year ban he'd probably wait.

They’ll prob give him a nice new 2 year, triple your money, Abu Dhabi sponsorship deal.

[RedSince86]

I was in Manchester yesterday shopping.

I find it hilarious Mancs call anyone related to Liverpool as "Bin Dippers" when you see the zombified homeless dwelling people in the city centre.

I know the city has a shocking problem with those dangerous legal highs, but what a blight on the city when you see people leaning against lamposts and walls in such a zombiefied state in the mdidle of the day, even my 3 year old daughter was pointing at some of them when we were walking past them.

Worst homeless dwelling city i've seen is LA downtown in Skidrow and Manchester is on the brink of something like that.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Wow.

The men behind Man City.  Too long to post, but really worrying

https://medium.com/@NcGeehan/the-men-behind-man-city-a-documentary-not-coming-soon-to-a-cinema-near-you-14bc8e393e06

"There’s more — there’s a lot more — but suffice it to say that while Abu Dhabi may not be the most abusive government in the world, they are easily the most abusive government running a football club. Qatar run them a close second of course, and there should be no PSG supporters taking the moral high ground. A quick glance at the bookies odds for this year’s Champions League reveals the extent to which top level European football is now dependent on funding from either Abu Dhabi or Qatar. Manchester City are currently the favourites followed by Paris Saint-Germain. Third favourites are Bayern Munich, whose shirts are now sponsored by Qatar, fourth favourites are Barcelona, who only recently ended a seven-year sponsorship deal with Qatar, and fifth favourites are Real Madrid, who have sold the naming rights to their new stadium to Abu Dhabi."

Nice that we dumped Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Manchester City out of the competition over the last two years

[jamie_c]

Come on, that’s one of the funniest things that’s ever happened on a football pitch, leave him out of this.  I defy you to watch that clip again without laughing.

He should of booted the little shit in the head, think the previous poster was clutching at straws with that one !!

[jamie_c]

Wow. If anyone is lurking from Blue moon I dare you to open a thread to discuss this article. It would be astonishing if you could find anything positive to say about it.  So while you’re at it why don’t you create some banners for the FA cup final declaring your support of Gay rights, Gender equality and recognition of the State of Israel.  Protesting your owners doesn’t mean you don’t support your team. We live in a country where you can speak freely. I’m sure if we’d been taken over by DIC we would have had many loud dissenting voices.  Liverpool supporters have a history of highlighting the unacceptable within our own house (Standards Corrupted ….)     

…but you lot wont, will you. You’re blinded by your lottery windfall and you’ve been seduced by the Abu Dhabi PR machine.  Speak up or shame on you

I get this is an opportunity to stick the knife into them, but honestly if you think our fans would turn on ownership that delivered success you’re completely deluded, the internet warriors would defend the club in exactly the same way and the majority would turn a blind eye.

And to compare to our protests is ridiculous, do you think we’d of done that if the Hicks/Gillette model had worked.  The protests were because we were shit, selling our best players and buying crap ones.

[Yorkykopite]

UAE

The United Arab Emirates’ intolerance of criticism continued in 2018 as authorities in May sentenced Ahmed Mansoor, an Emirati award-winning human rights activist, to a 10-year prison sentence for exercising his right to free expression. The government continues to arbitrarily detain and forcibly disappear individuals who criticize authorities.

The UAE maintains their leading role in the Saudi-led military coalition, which has conducted scores of unlawful attacks in Yemen. The UAE was implicated in detainee abuse at home and abroad.

Labor abuses persist. Migrant construction workers face serious exploitation. The UAE introduced a domestic workers law providing them labor rights for the first time in September 2017, but some provisions are weaker than those provided to other workers under the labor law.

The UAE continued to block representatives of international human rights organizations from visiting.

UAE authorities have launched a sustained assault on freedom of expression and association since 2011. The UAE arbitrarily detains and forcibly disappears individuals who criticize the authorities within the UAE’s borders. UAE residents who have spoken about human rights issues are at serious risk of arbitrary detention, imprisonment, and torture. Many are serving long prison terms or have left the country under pressure.

Foreign nationals account for more than 88.5 percent of the UAE’s population, according to 2011 government statistics. Many low-paid migrant workers remain acutely vulnerable to forced labor, despite some reforms.

The kafala (visa-sponsorship) system continues to tie migrant workers to their employers. Those who leave their employers can face punishment for “absconding,” including fines, prison, and deportation.

The UAE’s labor law excludes domestic workers, who face a range of abuses, from unpaid wages, confinement to the house, workdays up to 21 hours with no breaks, to physical or sexual assault by employers, from its protections. Domestic workers face legal and practical obstacles to redress.

Federal Law No. 28 of 2005 regulates personal status matters. Some of its provisions discriminate against women. For a woman to marry, her male guardian must conclude her marriage contract; men have the right to unilaterally divorce their wives, whereas a woman must apply for a court order to obtain a divorce; a woman can lose her right to maintenance if, for example, she refuses to have sexual relations with her husband without a lawful excuse; and women are required to “obey” their husbands. A woman may be considered disobedient, with few exceptions, if she decides to work without her husband’s consent.

UAE law permits domestic violence. Article 53 of the penal code allows the imposition of “chastisement by a husband to his wife and the chastisement of minor children” so long as the assault does not exceed the limits of Islamic law. Marital rape is not a crime. In 2010, the Federal Supreme Court issued a ruling, citing the penal code, that sanctions husbands’ beating and infliction of other forms of punishment or coercion on their wives, provided they do not leave physical marks.

Different emirates within the UAE’s federal system have laws that criminalize same-sex sexual relations, including Abu Dhabi, where “unnatural sex with another person” can be punished with up to 14 years in prison.

Nice eh

This is where your money is from

This is the bottom line. It’s a slave state and the owners of Manchester City are slavers.

[Broad Spectrum]

I was in Manchester yesterday shopping.

I find it hilarious Mancs call anyone related to Liverpool as "Bin Dippers" when you see the zombified homeless dwelling people in the city centre.

I know the city has a shocking problem with those dangerous legal highs, but what a blight on the city when you see people leaning against lamposts and walls in such a zombiefied state in the mdidle of the day, even my 3 year old daughter was pointing at some of them when we were walking past them.

Worst homeless dwelling city i've seen is LA downtown in Skidrow and Manchester is on the brink of something like that.

Yeah mate was up there last month, it's always been bad for that but it's terrible now. When you strip away the football and the rivalry between the cities, it's really sad to see.

Anyway, I think we should all just spend less time talking and thinking about these. They're an absolute fucking joke of a club, shittest fan base going, they won't even be arsed if they get banned from Europe. Fuck them, and fuck their horrible c*nt owners as well.

[FiSh77]

I get this is an opportunity to stick the knife into them, but honestly if you think our fans would turn on ownership that delivered success you’re completely deluded, the internet warriors would defend the club in exactly the same way and the majority would turn a blind eye.

And to compare to our protests is ridiculous, do you think we’d of done that if the Hicks/Gillette model had worked.  The protests were because we were shit, selling our best players and buying crap ones.

Arf!

When was the first protest? I'll give you a clue, it was well before everything turned to shite on the pitch, a large number of fans were onto them not too long after they bought the club

[Medellin]

You don't have to dig far..

http://www.josimar.no/artikler/the-men-behind-manchester-city-the-dark-side/5040/

[jamie_c]

Arf!

When was the first protest? I'll give you a clue, it was well before everything turned to shite on the pitch, a large number of fans were onto them not too long after they bought the club

And what were they on to them for ? They had a business plan that was built on sand with all the money leveraged against the club.  It would lead to a shit team which it did.

Not really comparable to an ownership who deliver 4 titles ?

If you really think that we’re that special a fan base that would turn on an ownership who deliver success then you are deluded, the vast majority of us would turn a blind eye.  Therefore it was a crap comparison to make.