Author Topic: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership (Read 350079 times)

Yorkykopite · « **Reply #1120 on:** February 8, 2012, 10:46:23 pm »

No screaming? No berating? No mad-man semaphore?

No wonder we're leaking goals all over the place.

Billy The Kid · « **Reply #1121 on:** February 8, 2012, 10:51:44 pm »

Quote from: Suspect Package. on February 8, 2012, 03:46:55 pm

Neither of them are vocal enough or a leader, Carragher has to play to organise the defence.

Maybe the reason they're not giving each other a bollicking every 2 minutes is because they don't need to. You know, because maybe they just have a good understanding of each others tendencies? Hence they adapt accordingly? As has been quiet evident in almost every game they've played together this season?

Carra is a legend, no doubting that. But his days as a starter in central defense for us are pretty much over.

bigbear · « **Reply #1122 on:** February 8, 2012, 11:18:15 pm »

Both outstanding. Skrtel is playing out of his skin.

Suspect Package. · « **Reply #1123 on:** February 8, 2012, 11:29:59 pm »

Quote from: Billy The Kid. on February 8, 2012, 10:51:44 pm

Maybe the reason they're not giving each other a bollicking every 2 minutes is because they don't need to. You know, because maybe they just have a good understanding of each others tendencies? Hence they adapt accordingly? As has been quiet evident in almost every game they've played together this season?

Carra is a legend, no doubting that. But his days as a starter in central defense for us are pretty much over.

That's interesting, I didn't seriously expect to woosh anyone with that.

Z e u s · « **Reply #1124 on:** February 9, 2012, 03:44:28 am »

Reina

Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique

Lucas

Best defensive spine in the league.

Now when our other three players in the team include Gerrard, Suarez and Bellamy - who are all top quality, it shows we are very close to having a superb team.

A top class winger, plus a finisher and this team would be immense.

jooneyisdagod · « **Reply #1125 on:** February 9, 2012, 03:55:56 am »

Quote from: Suspect Package. on February 8, 2012, 11:29:59 pm

That's interesting, I didn't seriously expect to woosh anyone with that.

DanA · « **Reply #1126 on:** February 9, 2012, 04:49:43 am »

Quote from: Z e u s on February 9, 2012, 03:44:28 am

Reina

Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique

Lucas

Best defensive spine in the league.

Now when our other three players in the team include Gerrard, Suarez and Bellamy - who are all top quality, it shows we are very close to having a superb team.

A top class winger, plus a finisher and this team would be immense.

I agree the back six (inc Reina) are fantastic and it shows how close we are. I'd add that the depth we have is quality too. I rate every single one of our squad which is something I couldn't say before this season. There is no point adding solid players anymore as we've got solid, signings need to be top class as you said and they're unlikely to be easy to obtain. Every big team is throwing themselves at Hazard, Cavani & Jovetic who are the types of player it would take to improve us IMO.

mysterio_86 · « **Reply #1127 on:** February 9, 2012, 06:21:35 am »

Quote from: Z e u s on February 9, 2012, 03:44:28 am

A top class winger, plus a finisher and this team would be immense.

Need German midfielders first, a couple of them ! dont care about wingers !

c00ln1ck · « **Reply #1128 on:** February 9, 2012, 09:36:56 am »

Quote from: Suspect Package. on February 8, 2012, 03:46:55 pm

Neither of them are vocal enough or a leader, Carragher has to play to organise the defence.

I think Agger is a natural leader, and am I the only one who enjoys EVERY time he gets vocal in a game, be it towards opponents or teammates? Is he boss in the changing room as well?

mysterio_86 · « **Reply #1129 on:** February 9, 2012, 09:52:34 am »

Quote from: c00ln1ck on February 9, 2012, 09:36:56 am

I think Agger is a natural leader, and am I the only one who enjoys EVERY time he gets vocal in a game, be it towards opponents or teammates? Is he boss in the changing room as well?

Man crush !

rossipersempre · « **Reply #1130 on:** February 9, 2012, 09:54:17 am »

Quote from: Rojo O Muerto on February 7, 2012, 10:53:38 am

despite the doubters and Carraghers Royal Guard, *cough* Veinticinco de Mayo *cough*.

Ha ha

rossipersempre · « **Reply #1131 on:** February 9, 2012, 10:06:10 am »

Quote from: yorkykopite on February 8, 2012, 10:46:23 pm

No screaming? No berating? No mad-man semaphore?

Stop it Yorky. I'm getting all tearful and nostalgic about 2010 Carragher, the Atletico and West Brom highlights particularly.

Those were the days *sigh*...

Yorkykopite · « **Reply #1132 on:** February 9, 2012, 10:08:48 am »

Quote from: rossipersempre on February 9, 2012, 10:06:10 am

Stop it Yorky. I'm getting all tearful and nostalgic about 2010 Carragher, the Atletico and West Brom highlights particularly.

Those were the days *sigh*...

His greatest hits album would surely open with the end-of-season assault on Arbeloa.

rossipersempre · « **Reply #1133 on:** February 9, 2012, 10:55:58 am »

Quote from: yorkykopite on February 9, 2012, 10:08:48 am

His greatest hits album would surely open with the end-of-season assault on Arbeloa.

Swiftly followed up by the salivary water-boarding of DEGENNNNNN!!!!!

My own favourite though is definitely Forlan's goal at the Calderon. In slo-mo, it's a sight to behold, the outstretched leg to block the cross, the bulging eyes, the pointing as the Uruguyan fluffs the first time, and then the elegance of the attempted clearance, the graceful arc of the fateful swing, and the unbelievable athleticism to be up off his arse within a nanosecond and screaming like a deranged oran-utang at a bemused Soto.

It's pure vintage Carragher.

sinnermichael · « **Reply #1134 on:** February 9, 2012, 01:34:43 pm »

brilliant when you consider that we could potentially field a back four of these two with kelly and enrique at fullback and the combined transfer fees of them all comes to about £20m. absolute bargain.

scatman · « **Reply #1135 on:** February 9, 2012, 02:16:58 pm »

Quote from: rossipersempre on February 9, 2012, 10:55:58 am

Swiftly followed up by the salivary water-boarding of DEGENNNNNN!!!!!

My own favourite though is definitely Forlan's goal at the Calderon. In slo-mo, it's a sight to behold, the outstretched leg to block the cross, the bulging eyes, the pointing as the Uruguyan fluffs the first time, and then the elegance of the attempted clearance, the graceful arc of the fateful swing, and the unbelievable athleticism to be up off his arse within a nanosecond and screaming like a deranged oran-utang at a bemused Soto.

It's pure vintage Carragher.

haha great memories...if we didnt fucking lose :|

blert596 · « **Reply #1136 on:** February 9, 2012, 03:03:12 pm »

Was it not Lucas he was having a pop at? Totally bypassed Soto and Johnson

rossipersempre · « **Reply #1137 on:** February 9, 2012, 03:15:23 pm »

Quote from: blert596 on February 9, 2012, 03:03:12 pm

Was it not Lucas he was having a pop at? Totally bypassed Soto and Johnson

Soto was definitely closest and in spitting distance, literally. I think his size might have swayed Carragher into venting a little more 'indiscriminately' though

The Jackal · « **Reply #1138 on:** February 9, 2012, 03:22:43 pm »

Quote from: Z e u s on February 9, 2012, 03:44:28 am

Reina

Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique

Lucas

Best defensive spine in the league.

Now when our other three players in the team include Gerrard, Suarez and Bellamy - who are all top quality, it shows we are very close to having a superb team.

A top class winger, plus a finisher and this team would be immense.

Add Gerrard and Suarez and that's the basis for a fantastic team. Would like to add a Central Midfielder (second volante type) a quality attacking wide player and a striker who can finish but also hold the ball up and brig others into play. At the moment we have players who *can* do those things in Adam, Henderson, Downing, Carroll, Kuyt etc.. but either not well enough, not well enough yet, or not well enough at the moment (i.e. they are either limited, out of form or young/ inexperienced).

I guess it depends on how soon we want the team to be a top performing one, how much we have to spend, and how the aforementioned players develop in what remains of the season.

the defensive side of the team is certainly NOT a worry though, although cover for left-back *may* be required, but that's not our main priority..

The Jackal · « **Reply #1139 on:** February 9, 2012, 03:27:37 pm »

Quote from: stmichael on February 9, 2012, 01:34:43 pm

brilliant when you consider that we could potentially field a back four of these two with kelly and enrique at fullback and the combined transfer fees of them all comes to about £20m. absolute bargain.

Even with Johnson at full-back - if you chuck Pepe and Lucas into the calculation, that's the defensive side of the team (back-four, goalie, defensive mid) for about £50m. Or just over £8m per player. Amazing value. That Rafa sure was shit in the transfer market, wans't he?

Z e u s · « **Reply #1140 on:** February 9, 2012, 04:14:09 pm »

Quote from: The Jackal on February 9, 2012, 03:22:43 pm

the defensive side of the team is certainly NOT a worry though, although cover for left-back *may* be required, but that's not our main priority..

We have Johnson who can play that position, which gives Kelly some action or Robinson - who I think has a big future.

The Jackal · « **Reply #1141 on:** February 9, 2012, 04:19:54 pm »

Quote from: Z e u s on February 9, 2012, 04:14:09 pm

We have Johnson who can play that position, which gives Kelly some action or Robinson - who I think has a big future.

True. All depends on how ready Kenny feels Flanno/ Robbo are. Fabio will be off in the summer, leaving 3 senior FB's for the two positions, + the two youngsters. Might be enough I guess. As I said, not a priority. The attacking positions far more important to sort out.

MiserableP15 · « **Reply #1142 on:** February 9, 2012, 04:31:57 pm »

Quote from: rossipersempre on February 9, 2012, 03:15:23 pm

Soto was definitely closest and in spitting distance, literally. I think his size might have swayed Carragher into venting a little more 'indiscriminately' though

Got a link? I feel like a laugh. Don't remember it.

rossipersempre · « **Reply #1143 on:** February 9, 2012, 04:42:10 pm »

Quote from: MushyP15 on February 9, 2012, 04:31:57 pm

Got a link? I feel like a laugh. Don't remember it.

Since you're feeling lazy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFiVfPc5-FQ

Cid · « **Reply #1144 on:** February 9, 2012, 05:58:54 pm »

Funny how long the fans called for this and begged for it and how often it looked like it may never happen.

Put them together? All of a sudden we're the best defensive outfit in the league, go figure.

Next lets hope for Glen on the right wing, stevie in the hole, henderson in the middle and Carroll on the bench

simplyred84 · « **Reply #1145 on:** February 9, 2012, 11:31:10 pm »

Quote from: penga on February 8, 2012, 09:27:35 am

Dunno why so many people attribute Skrtel's improvement almost exclusively on the fact that he is playing with Agger (like all the credit goes to Agger and his "calmness"). It is certainly true to some extent but not so much as some make out.

Some other factors could be:
*He is playing on the right side of central defence which is his preferred foot and position.
*Steve Clarke - defensive organisation
*New found aggression - according to Steve Clarke in that interview = better heading
*Plays his preferred role as the guy who marks the main striker tight with someone else (Agger) to mop up behind usually.
*Coming into his prime, experience, learning from previous mistakes
*Confidence - Dalglish?
*Confidence in fitness/body
*Style of play of the team in general in both defence and attack (as opposed to Hodgson). Chance to show his true technical ability. Also given licence to occasionally roam forward like Agger but less frequent.

Oh, and they were born three days apart...

bigbear · « **Reply #1146 on:** February 9, 2012, 11:41:33 pm »

Quote from: Cid on February 9, 2012, 05:58:54 pm

Funny how long the fans called for this and begged for it and how often it looked like it may never happen.

Put them together? All of a sudden we're the best defensive outfit in the league, go figure.

Next lets hope for Glen on the right wing, stevie in the hole, henderson in the middle and Carroll on the bench

Better say bye bye to Dirk then !!

nyrrard · « **Reply #1147 on:** February 10, 2012, 10:12:03 am »

Quote from: zip on February 8, 2012, 03:15:57 pm

Oooh-ooh-ooh
We've got the best defense in the world
We've got Agger and Skrtel,
Enrique and Johnson
And Pepe Reina in Go-ooooal!

Snail · « **Reply #1148 on:** February 11, 2012, 05:30:52 pm »

Fucking love you, Agger.

anfieldanfield · « **Reply #1149 on:** February 11, 2012, 05:33:01 pm »

Quote from: MushyP15 on January 26, 2012, 02:41:14 pm

How about a mix of the two (and you can't leave out Pepe AA, that's heresy!)

We've got the best defence in the world....

We've got Kelly and Carra, Skrtel and Agger
Pepe, Jose and Johnnoooo ooooo oooo oooooo

I think you've got to end with Johnno for obvious reasons!

AlexanderKruseBerg · « **Reply #1150 on:** February 11, 2012, 05:50:37 pm »

twitter:
brclausen Birger Clausen
According to Danish Channel 6. After the game Agger offered Fedinand to meet outside after the game for a little 'fight'.

So proud of Dagger.

Anywhichwayicant · « **Reply #1151 on:** February 11, 2012, 05:51:29 pm »

Quote from: Siannn. on February 11, 2012, 05:30:52 pm

Fucking love you, Agger.

Bugger off. You've claimed Kelly, Agger is mine.

Snail · « **Reply #1152 on:** February 11, 2012, 06:19:26 pm »

Quote from: Anywhichwayucan on February 11, 2012, 05:51:29 pm

Bugger off. You've claimed Kelly, Agger is mine.

I meant it in a platonic way anyway. Maybe.

please, I have my reasons for it but... · « **Reply #1153 on:** February 11, 2012, 06:30:40 pm »

Quote from: AlexanderKruseBerg on February 11, 2012, 05:50:37 pm

twitter:
brclausen Birger Clausen
According to Danish Channel 6. After the game Agger offered Fedinand to meet outside after the game for a little 'fight'.

So proud of Dagger.

Haha, Agger would have crushed the donkey faced twat.

buzzing · « **Reply #1154 on:** February 11, 2012, 06:33:42 pm »

Why is Rio sticking his big ass lips into something that doesn't concern him

Agger will knock him the fuck out - You'd get murked bruv, fuckin murked

Made me laugh when Bale tried to square up to him the other day

buzzing · « **Reply #1155 on:** February 11, 2012, 06:36:00 pm »

Quote from: Cid on February 9, 2012, 05:58:54 pm

Funny how long the fans called for this and begged for it and how often it looked like it may never happen.

Put them together? All of a sudden we're the best defensive outfit in the league, go figure.

Next lets hope for Glen on the right wing, stevie in the hole, henderson in the middle and Carroll on the bench

..and downing on the transfer list

lfcbob · « **Reply #1156 on:** February 11, 2012, 06:39:48 pm »

Quote from: buzzing on February 11, 2012, 06:36:00 pm

..and downing on the transfer list

steve10 · « **Reply #1157 on:** February 11, 2012, 07:19:39 pm »

They have been awesome this season. Long may they continue.

Sevo · « **Reply #1158 on:** February 11, 2012, 07:34:59 pm »

I felt sorry for both of them today. They had absolutely no midfield shield in front of them. No matter how good centre backs are, if you allow runners to get through at will, they will suffer. With Enrique having the non existant Downing on the left and Spearing pointing at who he should be marking, they were left exposed.

Gainsbarre · « **Reply #1159 on:** February 11, 2012, 07:37:34 pm »

Quote from: Sevo on February 11, 2012, 07:34:59 pm

I felt sorry for both of them today. They had absolutely no midfield shield in front of them. No matter how good centre backs are, if you allow runners to get through at will, they will suffer. With Enrique having the non existant Downing on the left and Spearing pointing at who he should be marking, they were left exposed.

Main reason to loose that game.. Soft midfield..