Author Topic: Blackstone confirms fans played part in decision not to lend to Hicks (Read 60438 times)

royhendo · « **on:** August 25, 2010, 12:00:23 pm »

Folks - please see the RBS thread. Blackstone are confirmed as having refused finance to Hicks and stated that fans' groups played a part in that decision with the intensity of their response.

Thanks everyone for making your views known!

Regi · « **Reply #1 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:03:56 pm »

Doing it now.
Letters going out today as well.

Lord Roger Hunt · « **Reply #2 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:08:01 pm »

Good call Roy - would suggest that we tell RBS that we would support them taking the club into administration and all the pain that would cause, if it meant getting rid of TH and GG. I suspect that RBS will be fearful of a backlash from the fans if they took such a draconian step and we may need to reassure them.

Just a thought.

Email on its way!

Rafas Christmas Coats · « **Reply #3 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:09:13 pm »

Would it more effective (or have the same effect as we presume nobody will care to read through all the letters) to just put "NO TO REFINANCE FOR TOM HICKS AND GEORGE GILLETT" or shall we write our own short letter to add to it?

BrettD · « **Reply #4 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:09:51 pm »

Sent. Will draft letters tonight.

Grobbelrevell · « **Reply #5 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:12:32 pm »

Will happily send these as soon as I get on lunch.

Will these not just end up being spam filtered though? Would we not be better focussing on the letter campaign?

This is in no way an attempt to undermine this effort as I respect anyone willing to stand up for the club at a time when it it mosts needs us, Im just not convinced the email route is the most productive, especially when we're reasonably sure that we have had an effect with the letters sent to RBS.

Ycuzz · « **Reply #6 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:12:41 pm »

I'm putting "NO TO REFINANCE FOR TOM HICKS AND GEORGE GILLETT" in the header, then adding a few words of my own.

To the press! (or sumthin..)

Thanks Roy!

Gigantic Lamb · « **Reply #7 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:13:47 pm »

Cheers for that Roy

Im getting on it now

The Red artist. · « **Reply #8 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:19:08 pm »

Email sent.

royhendo · « **Reply #9 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:21:03 pm »

Thanks guys, and please pass to your mates of a Red persuasion.

bonzer red · « **Reply #10 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:21:18 pm »

i'll get on to this now cheers roy, it might be an idea to possibly change your heading as well, if everyone sends the same header it may be possible to get them blocked or sent straight to junk

vicgill · « **Reply #11 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:21:36 pm »

Great stuff Roy, all sent

belfast-connection · « **Reply #12 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:21:47 pm »

Dear Mr. Hester,

I am e-mailing you as a concerned Liverpool fan, and indeed as a Liverpool fan who has been concerned about RBS' dealings with Liverpool Football Club and more particularly the 'owners' of the club, Tom Hicks and George Gillett for some time.

As a fan I have waited patiently for your bank, owned by the tax-payer to promptly and properly demand back the monies owed to the tax-payer by these two most disreputable football owners in British club history, and yet time and time again it appears that your bank (our bank, the tax-payer's bank) has refinanced their regime and thus perpetrated a moral wrong against a fabled British sporting institution of worldly fame, and its fanbase.

I have noted with interest the numerous presss reports detailing what is known of the current sales process and noted that the same press stories have carried word (not denied) that Hicks and Gillett have approached other banks to attempt to refinance their RBS loans. Furthermore other stories (not denied) have suggested that one of the agents of sale (BarCaps) are considering involving themselves in a refinance of the club with Hicks and Gillett.

I would wish to highlight to you my disgust should any of these eventualities come to pass and my intention should that happen to blame RBS and you personally and to seek to do all I can to have these matters made subject of a public and/ or Parliamentary inquiry. It is widely believed that RBS have the power (and have had for some time) to bring these matters to a head by seizing the security for their loans (Liverpool Football Club effectively) and then effecting a sale at a price that the market can bear. Given that Hicks and Gillett (despite apparently contrary assurances to you) appear not to be ready to sell the club at a price that the market can bear then morally I would suggest that this is the only option at present and an option that should be taken up. RBS will suffer no public backlash from Liverpool supporters for getting rid of Hicks and Gillett in this fashion, quite the contrary.

Please consider this e-mail and others you will no doubt receive from anguished Liverpool supporters and act accordingly.

Regards

I've done fat scousers letters previously - but did this personally - think personal ones are more effective

paulrazor · « **Reply #13 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:22:27 pm »

charlie farley · « **Reply #14 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:22:38 pm »

Nice one.

will do it tonight when i get in from work.

Uhoh AureliOs · « **Reply #15 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:23:35 pm »

Done. Sent on to a few friends too.

bonzer red · « **Reply #16 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:26:52 pm »

i've had about 8 bounce back saying that they are undelivered

royhendo · « **Reply #17 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:29:17 pm »

BTW its not me to thank - I just posted what I was asked by the Kop Faithful boys. (Also behind Hicks Jr's outburst and resignation).

royhendo · « **Reply #18 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:29:54 pm »

Quote from: bonzer red on August 25, 2010, 12:26:52 pm

i've had about 8 bounce back saying that they are undelivered

No sweat - loads got through then.

rutlandred · « **Reply #19 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:44:30 pm »

Done, nice one Roy & the Kop Faithful lads

Not funny reecehenebry · « **Reply #20 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:44:51 pm »

Quote from: royhendo on August 25, 2010, 12:29:54 pm

No sweat - loads got through then.

All bar one went through,the rest were 'out of office'

Do these guys even work?
Lazy ****

royhendo · « **Reply #21 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:48:45 pm »

I would but I'm on the train heading through the cairngorms now...

eAyeAddio · « **Reply #22 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:50:18 pm »

Having a problem with the e-mail adresses being returned as undeliverable?

Here is an adjusted list so just copy and paste in the cc. part of your e-mail to RBS...

info@beachpointcapital.com,
investor@blackrock.com,
broker.services@blackrock.com,
info@trimarancapital.com,
investorrelations@trimaranadvisors.com,
inquiries@deshaw.com,
recruiting-inquiries@deshaw.com,
media-inquiries@deshaw.com,
irweb@deshaw.com,
kari.elassal@deshaw.com,
donald.goodson@deshaw.com,
fkanga@censored. Wrong company,
pgardner@censored. Wrong company,
pharris@censored. Wrong company,
bharris@censored. Wrong company,
info@centerbridge.com,
hr@centerbridge.com,
hr@fbr.com,
fbcmir@fbr.com,
advisors@fbr.com,
media@fbr.com,
mmurray@fbr.com,
fbrresearch@fbr.com,
webproducer@fbr.com,
BlackstoneInvestorRelations@blackstone.com,
info@blackstone.com,
jon.laycock@barcap.com,
john.hourican@rbs.com,
roger.lowry@rbs.co.uk,
rebecca.oliphant@rbs.com,
richard.holliday@rbs.com,
gngillett@bcmgt.com,
ian.ayre@liverpoolfc.tv,
philip.nash@liverpoolfc.tv,
thicks@hicksholdings.com,
tohjr@hicksholdings.com,
martin.broughton@ba.com,
lisa@lemastergroup.com,
rick@lemastergroup.com,

Sorry Zappa, I posted my list at the same time as you!
Still, can't have too many attacks at a time of war eh?

TOMMO86 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:51:58 pm »

Done.

Not funny reecehenebry · « **Reply #24 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:53:23 pm »

Quote from: eAyeAddio on August 25, 2010, 12:50:18 pm

Having a problem with the e-mail adresses being returned as undeliverable?

Here is an adjusted list so just copy and paste in the cc. part of your e-mail to RBS...

info@beachpointcapital.com,
investor@blackrock.com,
broker.services@blackrock.com,
info@trimarancapital.com,
investorrelations@trimaranadvisors.com,
inquiries@deshaw.com,
recruiting-inquiries@deshaw.com,
media-inquiries@deshaw.com,
irweb@deshaw.com,
kari.elassal@deshaw.com,
donald.goodson@deshaw.com,
fkanga@censored. Wrong company,
pgardner@censored. Wrong company,
pharris@censored. Wrong company,
bharris@censored. Wrong company,
info@centerbridge.com,
hr@centerbridge.com,
hr@fbr.com,
fbcmir@fbr.com,
advisors@fbr.com,
media@fbr.com,
mmurray@fbr.com,
fbrresearch@fbr.com,
webproducer@fbr.com,
BlackstoneInvestorRelations@blackstone.com,
info@blackstone.com,
jon.laycock@barcap.com,
john.hourican@rbs.com,
roger.lowry@rbs.co.uk,
rebecca.oliphant@rbs.com,
richard.holliday@rbs.com,
gngillett@bcmgt.com,
ian.ayre@liverpoolfc.tv,
philip.nash@liverpoolfc.tv,
thicks@hicksholdings.com,
tohjr@hicksholdings.com,
martin.broughton@ba.com,
lisa@lemastergroup.com,
rick@lemastergroup.com,

Can any of the mods changes roy's OP to reflect these emails?

SmithdownAndy · « **Reply #25 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:54:04 pm »

Quote from: Lord Roger Hunt on August 25, 2010, 12:08:01 pm

Good call Roy - would suggest that we tell RBS that we would support them taking the club into administration and all the pain that would cause, if it meant getting rid of TH and GG. I suspect that RBS will be fearful of a backlash from the fans if they took such a draconian step and we may need to reassure them.

Just a thought.

Email on its way!

That's a great call mate, sent 3 yesterday but I'm gonna send more today and add that in. I urge more to do the same.

Emails sent, keep up the good work lads.

Juan de Fuca · « **Reply #26 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:54:24 pm »

done. fucking snakes

royhendo · « **Reply #27 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:57:37 pm »

Managed to update the post guys, thanks for that.

red_til_i_die · « **Reply #28 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:57:41 pm »

Done and going to send letters to them as well.

Yanks Out!!!!

Caffeine · « **Reply #29 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:58:51 pm »

Can anyone post up a draft letter so we can just C&P?

Zeb · « **Reply #30 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:59:45 pm »

Is done.

brownie 09 · « **Reply #31 on:** August 25, 2010, 01:00:18 pm »

Done!

Grobbelrevell · « **Reply #32 on:** August 25, 2010, 01:00:49 pm »

Quote from: Joga on August 25, 2010, 12:58:51 pm

Can anyone post up a draft letter so we can just C&P?

It would be better If it was personalised if you've got the time mate. It doesnt need to be lengthy, just your own thoughts on the situation. A paragraph or two is plenty.

Lord Roger Hunt · « **Reply #33 on:** August 25, 2010, 01:03:09 pm »

I think we should copy in a few journalists as well e.g. tony E and B, Rory, BBC sport etc.....just so it can't be buried.......anyone have their email addresses?

Mutton Geoff · « **Reply #34 on:** August 25, 2010, 01:04:54 pm »

maureen.mackman@rbs.com

John hourican@ rbs is out of office and this is his PA another name for the list?

I also suggested 'the feel good factor' if they made the right decisions might be felt in switched accounts or new accounts with RBS from our fanbase as a small spin off effect!

Zappa · « **Reply #35 on:** August 25, 2010, 01:07:06 pm »

Quote from: eAyeAddio on August 25, 2010, 12:50:18 pm

Sorry Zappa, I posted my list at the same time as you!
Still, can't have too many attacks at a time of war eh?

Going for a sulk now....

gratifying to see that there's more than one prepared to take corrective action

mulfella · « **Reply #36 on:** August 25, 2010, 01:07:16 pm »

Done.

Some more addresses thanks to the wonders of out of office auto replies.

I will be out of the office until Monday 6th September 2010.
If your query is urgent please contact my colleagues Marc Hazelton on marc.hazelton@barcap.com (+44 207 773 2483) or Schuyler Clemente on schuyler.clemente@barcap.com (+44 207 773 4175).

No666 · « **Reply #37 on:** August 25, 2010, 01:15:38 pm »

Done. These t*ssers are farcical.

rutlandred · « **Reply #38 on:** August 25, 2010, 01:16:21 pm »

"Thank you for sending your resume to FBR Capital Markets. We are delighted with your interest in our firm"

may even get a new job out of this..(not much or a cv though)

Lord Roger Hunt · « **Reply #39 on:** August 25, 2010, 01:19:30 pm »

Quote from: rutlandred on August 25, 2010, 01:16:21 pm

"Thank you for sending your resume to FBR Capital Markets. We are delighted with your interest in our firm"

may even get a new job out of this..(not much or a cv though)

Ha ha! Love it!