Topic: Lucas in Brazil Squad

[OneTouchFooty]

the other lucas is a fucking machine

when he starts running with the ball nobody stops him

the brazil manager is going easy with the youngsters.. but with neymar and lucas (the sao paulo one) brazil will win the world cup easily IMO

Jesus Christ, already predicting world domination. Keep your dick your pants, it was Scotland.

[Khal]

the other lucas is a fucking machine

when he starts running with the ball nobody stops him

the brazil manager is going easy with the youngsters.. but with neymar and lucas (the sao paulo one) brazil will win the world cup easily IMO

I think Argentina and Spain may have different ideas.

[mulhergremista]

It's nice to see one of our players say they want to play for Liverpool in the CL, instead of just wanting CL football.

Right! And i am happy for him for the good game, Everybody is talking of the 2nd Lucas, a No. 10 that is missed this afternoon in SP derby against Corinthians, but those flair players needs the Lucas Leivas of this world.  He is already some kind of legend.  The Brazilian TVman said "Lucas Leiva, ex Gremio,the man of trust of Mano Menezes, nefew of the legend of the 70' Leivinha " He can be proud to be in a good group like that.  You may think that the Brazil NT is not the best, and that they will not gain anything with him,  I advice you, just wait.

And the 3rd Lucas is coming to CHelsea,  Neimar to Barça, and liverpool? I will better shut up

Lucas was interviewd in Sportv,  and spoke against the racism.  Althogh he is not a victim, the dark layers are, in Europe, and Lucas is the kind of person that will always support a human cause.  You can be proud of him

I am going to look for the interview later on. Sportv always like to interview Lucas. He is a good speaker, even in English , let alone in Portuguese

[Buzz Killington]

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Disgusting. Lucas is a class act.

[thegoodfella]

Done ok but ain't really noticed him it's been the neymar show!

I bet you were banned from RAWK and have re-signed with a new username.

[mulhergremista]

Yeah. Cos Brazil, of course, are gonna get nothing from Howard Webb when facing Scotland in London.

It's a friendly m'dear. When we hammer you, it won't be thanks to the ref.

For Brazil, there is no friendly, they want to win always, lucas says it is similar in Liverpool.. I hope he is right 

Hammer who? You  can keep you booing, serious or kidding, who cares as long as we are winning.  isn't it also what Liverpool is all about?

[Pepe Silvia]

He was better in the first half than in the second. First half he was doing these nice turns and working space for himself to play the right pass to help set the attack. He seemed to enjoy playing alongside Ramires who plays the game at a million miles an hour and goes from box to box (or rather from centre circle to box as Scotland could hardly muster a single attack). Second half it looked like Scotland, with their changes, pressed a little harder meanwhile some of the Brazilian players tired but there was never any problem and when Brazil made their own changes, in particular when the other Lucas came on who looked very eager and keen to get on the ball in the attacking midfield, then the pattern of the game reverted to the same as in the first half.

I couldn't help but also keep an eye on Charlie Adam for Scotland. I think it was the co-commentator that said he thought Adam tried too hard and I'd have to agree. Early on he tried to force the issue too much and you could sort of tell by the look in his eye that he badly wanted to do well here (probably read the morning papers). The only time he played well in the game was when Scotland made their changes and he wasn't burdened which so much of the responsibility to bring the ball out and it sort of looked like he wasn't thinking too much either as he played some neat, fairly intricate stuff. But giving away the pen sort of summed up his his day and hopefully now he'll learn from this and continue to improve his game as he has been doing at a rapid rate for the last couple of years.

[trequartista]

I bet you were banned from RAWK and have re-signed with a new username.

What on earth are you on about? neymar was fantastic lucas did ok compared to his teamates.
It seems after all that critism in his early days ,we have to say he's brilliant after every game.
He's proven the doubters wrong theirs no need to overate his every game just to prove a point on here, he's better then that.

[Jellies]

Lucas is fucking class, both for Liverpool and Brazil.

[Sangria]

The one issue I have with your first comment was the compartmentalized portion, highly specialized etc as surely this team was still the one that devastated Utd Real & co, players like Lucas. Agger, Johnson, SG, Kuyt etc all who can play in several roles if asked. Hardly compartmentalized although in Rafa’s hands some players movements were restricted I believe but under Roys they were destroyed.
The Lucas Masch combo was very limited, end of. Of course they were excellent breaking up play as you had two players doing what one holding player normally should be doing. Two players patrolling the ten yards in front of the backline and not one of them breaking often enough forward  to assist the front 6.

Not sure where I missed the point on Alonso as whether he is dropped into a functioning team or a dysfunctional one he elevates those around him to be better. It’s what you would expect from your midfield general and what you would expect from any great Liverpool midfielder. At the moment we don’t have a general in there which may explain some of our issues over the past 18 months.

Of the compartmentalised players, the outstanding example is Carragher. One of the best defenders I've ever seen in terms of holding his nerve under unending pressure (among Liverpool players, probably second only to Hyypia), and far more convincing in that than the likes of Hansen and Gillespie who were the first I saw. But that's not what I want my defenders to just do. I want them to join in the midfield play as well, either by breaking forward and mixing the lines, or using the options in front of them. Other specialists include Mascherano, whose movements tended to be of the one move and watch variety, not the move and continue moving sort I prefer. Torres was another, head down and go.

About Alonso, I loved his play. As someone who specialised in passing in a way to try and make myself useful in a team, I appreciate his art. But my criticisms of the Liverpool team around him wasn't about him himself. It's about the tendency of the players around him to scatter themselves and wait for the perfect ball, rather than make themselves available, and keep making themselves available, for the easier midrange ball. Sure, he makes the players around him look better than they'd otherwise be, but in a way that's enormously difficult to replicate with any other player. It's not his fault, and it's to his credit that he can cover this and make it work, but the team shouldn't be built around this. People should appreciate a player who can do this, but they shouldn't blame other players for not doing this. It's not how the team should work by default. A microcosm of how the team should is that little passage of play in the build up to the 3rd Wolves goal, between Agger, Lucas and Aurelio. 3 players who were comfortable in a tight space, with Wolves players pressing them, in the knowledge that they will each move into just enough space to receive the ball, and in turn give the ball to another who has done the same, until the Wolves players have committed themselves too much and given one of them enough space to look up. That kind of dynamic is much easier to replicate than a midfield general who can reliably find a teammate from 40 yards when the receiver has barely 3 yards of space. That kind of play is what the team should be built around, and anyone who can't do it shouldn't be playing for Liverpool.

[Sangria]

For Brazil, there is no friendly, they want to win always, lucas says it is similar in Liverpool.. I hope he is right 

Hammer who? You  can keep you booing, serious or kidding, who cares as long as we are winning.  isn't it also what Liverpool is all about?

I think it's a probability that Scotland will win more World Cup qualifying games over the next few years than Brazil. I'll bet you any money that, when the South American qualification rounds start, Brazil won't even figure near the top of the table. That's how shit they are.

[nick_8589]

I think it's a probability that Scotland will win more World Cup qualifying games over the next few years than Brazil. I'll bet you any money that, when the South American qualification rounds start, Brazil won't even figure near the top of the table. That's how shit they are.

  care to place a small wager on that

[koolkamal]

Just seen on Twitter - Adam Morgan saying Lucas is his favourite current LFC player. Even mentioned yesterday that all players in the academy rate Lucas as a player really highly.

[koolkamal]

care to place a small wager on that

I'd take that wager. Brazil won't be near the top of the table in South American qualifying rounds.

[Hazell]

care to place a small wager on that

Yes please. I'll have that.

[Hazell]

Scotland winning more games surely your on a wind up! Sure they've had better sides in the past but you've concluded that Brazil are shit!

 

[LiverpoolForever]

Scotland winning more games surely your on a wind up! Sure they've had better sides in the past but you've concluded that Brazil are shit!

Scotland will win more games , i'll have a bet on that.

[JWAlonso]

Scotland will win more games , i'll have a bet on that.

Get good odds on that. 

[mbyx6cg2]

Scotland will win more games , i'll have a bet on that.

Me too 

[koolkamal]

http://www.anfieldindex.com/liverpool-fc-2009-midfield-comparison-part-ii/

Part 2 of the statistical analysis of Lucas, Mascherano and Alonso during the 08/09 season.

[careca]

KoolKamal just check the link and the and the numbers say it all. When will people start to believe it?

[Sangria]

I'd take that wager. Brazil won't be near the top of the table in South American qualifying rounds.

What's more, Lucas won't play in any of the WC qualifying games.

[leivapool]

What's more, Lucas won't play in any of the WC qualifying games.

 

I get ya!

[GrkStav]

I think it's a probability that Scotland will win more World Cup qualifying games over the next few years than Brazil. I'll bet you any money that, when the South American qualification rounds start, Brazil won't even figure near the top of the table. That's how shit they are.

Yes. So much so that they've prohibited them from participating in the next WC qualifiers. That's how terrible they are. No wonder Lucas Leiva is a regular for them. Utter gash.


 

[GrkStav]

care to place a small wager on that

I do. I'll bet you dollars to donuts. 

[Jay012345]

http://www.anfieldindex.com/liverpool-fc-2009-midfield-comparison-part-ii/

Part 2 of the statistical analysis of Lucas, Mascherano and Alonso during the 08/09 season.

Shows Lucas would suit a midfield three, an orthodox DM, a deep-lying playmaker and a lucas (watercarrier type).
Lucas needs at least someone with pace and power in the middle with him. Ramirez was that player today.
Just my take.

[steveeastend]

Shows Lucas would suit a midfield three, an orthodox DM, a deep-lying playmaker and a lucas (watercarrier type).
Lucas needs at least someone with pace and power in the middle with him. Ramirez was that player today.
Just my take.

You are right. But that´s the point though with every deep sitting holding midflieder. As I wrote above, only a few could add this extra flavour... Dessailly comes to my mind.

He reminds me a little on Torsten Frings, just with better technique. And noone expected Frings to go forward as well. Every team is just happy to have one of that quality to cover the midflied more or less on his own.

There are not too many players capable of this. Especially the right movement. Chelsea still suffers from the Ballack departement.

[Sangria]

You are right. But that´s the point though with every deep sitting holding midflieder. As I wrote above, only a few could add this extra flavour... Dessailly comes to my mind.

He reminds me a little on Torsten Frings, just with better technique. And noone expected Frings to go forward as well. Every team is just happy to have one of that quality to cover the midflied more or less on his own.

There are not too many players capable of this. Especially the right movement. Chelsea still suffers from the Ballack departement.

They don't have anyone who can dish out a good Ballacking.

[steveeastend]

They don't have anyone who can dish out a good Ballacking.

Yeah, he set the table for the them..

[mulhergremista]

I think it's a probability that Scotland will win more World Cup qualifying games over the next few years than Brazil. I'll bet you any money that, when the South American qualification rounds start, Brazil won't even figure near the top of the table. That's how shit they are.

Of ourse,  you Sngria know tht Brazil will not be in the top of the table or even in the bottom, for the simple reason the host country does not play eliminatorias.   So, Brazil  will play only amistosos and some competitions like the Copa America

Scotland is a part of the united kingdom, I do not understand why they have the right to play in the world cup.  While Brazil is seeing some of thrir best players play for various countries, because the enourmos country like Brasil is not Scotland, they have  a right for only 1 team

So Scotland does not interest me at all. Give Catalunya the right and than we wil speak

[leivapool]

Class words from Lucas in regard to a banana being thrown on to the pitch at the Brazil v Scotland match today:

Brazil midfielder Lucas Leiva is said to have removed the banana from the pitch and the Liverpool midfielder added: "There is no more space for racism in the world. They say it's the first world here in Europe, but it's where it happens the most".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/9438033.stm

[therockbox]

Scotland is a part of the united kingdom, I do not understand why they have the right to play in the world cup.

Because Scotland is a country in it's own right.

[The Jolly Boys Outing]

any reason why the match was played at the emirates ?

[nick_8589]

Because Scotland is a country in it's own right.

yeah untill they puss out give power to us again (runs away)

[Popcorn]

Just seen on Twitter - Adam Morgan saying Lucas is his favourite current LFC player. Even mentioned yesterday that all players in the academy rate Lucas as a player really highly.

What's his twitter mate?

[El Rey, por favor]

[Jokerman]

I think it's a probability that Scotland will win more World Cup qualifying games over the next few years than Brazil. I'll bet you any money that, when the South American qualification rounds start, Brazil won't even figure near the top of the table. That's how shit they are.

I dunno, there's always the possibility that bet would end in a draw

[mulhergremista]

Quote from: JackB on Today at 05:13:05 PM
You see this is my problem with the Lucas fans in here. I get the impression that if he coughed you'd clap.

He played fine in the first half. Didn't do anything wrong (apart from a woeful shot) but didn't do anything particularly good either.


I understand why you got this impression. You saw the game on TV, like most of us I suppose.

The camera stays on the strikers  mainly.  SO did not see a lot of Lucas. He was on the the "dark side of the camera"
Once I could not stand the stupid comment on my cable, so I turned it into mute and found a good Brazilian radio station and followed it on-line while watching the tv picture.
Today, for example, Lucas was the most mentioned person in the first half, he was everywhere, from his own area to the rival area, everything was between him and Ramires, hey bossed the game.  In the Tv we saw some missed goals, some woodwork, etc. from the attack, but from the radio you heard how much was Lucas involved from the dark side of the Camera.  Another advantage: the on-line radio is in a little delay so when I see some action, I have no idea on Lucas important part in it, and than I hear the detailed description with X to Lucas, Lucas to Y, again Lucas, good pass Lucas, Lucas header deflecting.. I suppose they do not get paid by Lucas to invent it.
Sometime there are the replays when we see him in action, after hearing it in the radio, we know when and whereto look..
TO tell you the truth , as I can not hear radios from England, I use the live comentry of skysport for this aim, but it is not very well, as SKYSPORT ignore him most of the time, unless he does something wrong.   
Bless el Alonso and others who takes the trouble to make compilations.

Sorry if i was too long again but I wanted to explain something, and maybe some of you will do the same to get a better hint what went on off the ball and the camera
You may miss it even if you are on the stands, i have seen people listening to little radios during the game, beleive it or not, and not only to see another game result.

[andspecks]

 What number does Lucas normally wear for Brazil? Seen him wear both 5 and 8 on numerous occasions. Looking to get his shirt

[leivapool]

What's his twitter mate?

@morgo10