Author Topic: Fiorentina Protest - Change of Plans (Read 17165 times)

Paul Gardner · « **Reply #40 on:** December 9, 2009, 12:18:36 pm »

Quote from: rocco on December 9, 2009, 12:07:56 pm

Do you know what was written on the mosaic ?

Amici with liverbird and the fleur de lys of Fiorentina.

rocco · « **Reply #41 on:** December 9, 2009, 12:25:40 pm »

Quote from: Ricardo on December 9, 2009, 12:18:36 pm

Amici with liverbird and the fleur de lys of Fiorentina.

cheers Ricardo

firing squad · « **Reply #42 on:** December 9, 2009, 05:12:41 pm »

I see that all the threads about Fiorentina-Heysel-Liverpool are locked so I'll use this thread to post one picture from a few weeks back when Juve fans(against Udinese I think) put a disgraceful,fascist banner about Croatian hooligans from the Bad Blue Boys. It said "solidarity with the Ustašas from Zagreb". If you don't know,Ustaše were a fascist,quisling army and regime during WW2.

alex. · « **Reply #43 on:** December 9, 2009, 05:17:32 pm »

Mate, the Fiorentina and Juventus 'ultras' element are as bad as each other, I don't want 'friendship' or 'twinning' with any of them.

Dr Cornwallis · « **Reply #44 on:** December 9, 2009, 05:19:11 pm »

What is it with violence and Italian fans? There's nothing in the least bit hard about them, just a pack of little bollocks looking for a big cock to hang off. Fuck off, the lot of yers.

the-lightning · « **Reply #45 on:** December 9, 2009, 05:24:45 pm »

Quote from: firing squad on December 9, 2009, 05:12:41 pm

I see that all the threads about Fiorentina-Heysel-Liverpool are locked so I'll use this thread to post one picture from a few weeks back when Juve fans(against Udinese I think) put a disgraceful,fascist banner about Croatian hooligans from the Bad Blue Boys. It said "solidarity with the Ustašas from Zagreb". If you don't know,Ustaše were a fascist,quisling army and regime during WW2.

shameful ...
i'm afraid to be represented by such utter c*nts...

but don't put millions of fair fans along with a bunch of idiots...

OLDIE · « **Reply #46 on:** December 9, 2009, 05:24:47 pm »

Quote from: Hij on December 8, 2009, 04:30:01 pm

I was not around to witness Shankly, but with all his quotes about the club being for the people, about making the supporters happy and about directors only being there to sign the cheques, perhaps it is a day more than any other to protest for the club that we and he loved.

Afterall it was he who built it up, so while the day should rightfully be all about him it would surely also be a disrespect in itself to let these bastards tear it down.

If the older lot think I'm chatting shit, then forget I said anything. I just don't think that a protest against the owners on that day would be a disrespect to the great man, we'd only be fighting for what he helped create.

No No No !

You can do what you want but dont fuck with the Shankly day, NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES fuck his day over and you will split the fan base. I for one will never forgive anyone who fucks with the Shanks. Never

Keep your protests away from Shankly's day.

Its a day to remember the man the manager the man who laid the foundation for our greatness to ruin it with any protest, I am to fucking angry to even come up the words that express what I want to say.

DONT FUCK WITH THE SHANKS

Terry de Niro · « **Reply #47 on:** December 9, 2009, 05:26:20 pm »

I've just seen a load of them at Liverpool One.
They look like a right gang of gypos.

DangerScouse · « **Reply #48 on:** December 9, 2009, 05:26:21 pm »

Quote from: alex. on December 9, 2009, 05:17:32 pm

Mate, the Fiorentina and Juventus 'ultras' element are as bad as each other, I don't want 'friendship' or 'twinning' with any of them.

Wasn't there an article about the ultras booing one of Juve's black players a few weeks back?

alex. · « **Reply #49 on:** December 9, 2009, 05:28:11 pm »

Quote from: OLDIE on December 9, 2009, 05:24:47 pm

No No No !

You can do what you want but dont fuck with the Shankly day, NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES fuck his day over and you will split the fan base. I for one will never forgive anyone who fucks with the Shanks. Never

Keep your protests away from Shankly's day.

Its a day to remember the man the manager the man who laid the foundation for our greatness to ruin it with any protest, I am to fucking angry to even come up the words that express what I want to say.

DONT FUCK WITH THE SHANKS

I think the Wigan game has been picked for Shanks' celebration so I highly doubt there will be protests then.

firing squad · « **Reply #50 on:** December 9, 2009, 05:56:53 pm »

Quote from: the-lightning on December 9, 2009, 05:24:45 pm

shameful ...
i'm afraid to be represented by such utter c*nts...

but don't put millions of fair fans along with a bunch of idiots...

I'm not,that's why I posted this to show that every club has it's fair share of c*nts and we shouldn't tare them all with the same brush. That includes our "twinning" with the Violas.

24∗7 · « **Reply #51 on:** December 9, 2009, 06:02:39 pm »

Stay on-topic please, people.

Chakan · « **Reply #52 on:** December 9, 2009, 07:44:13 pm »

So did anything happen? Any banners and whatnot?

SwedenRed · « **Reply #53 on:** December 10, 2009, 07:37:12 am »

Quote from: Chakan on December 9, 2009, 07:44:13 pm

So did anything happen? Any banners and whatnot?

smicer07 · « **Reply #54 on:** December 10, 2009, 07:55:57 am »

Quote from: Chakan on December 9, 2009, 07:44:13 pm

So did anything happen? Any banners and whatnot?

I didn't see any myself.

Tiz Lad · « **Reply #55 on:** December 10, 2009, 08:14:16 am »

Quote from: smicer07 on December 10, 2009, 07:55:57 am

I didn't see any myself.

Thanks to a last minute half baked Change of plans statement

Something Else · « **Reply #56 on:** December 10, 2009, 08:38:59 am »

Think the lack of any protest last night, or certainly nothing that was caught on tele, was a trick missed.

With two games in just a few days, both on TV it was the perfect opportunity to show that any protest is to be sustained and well supported.

Sunday will come along and if the media choose to, will be easy to spin, or even ignore, though had it been done on both games it would have had greater impact and maybe educated a few other Liverpool fans, that would plan to watch both games, but not really know our plight.

Sunday, will have to be bloody special, but as there was no banners seen by the TV last night, and no chants picked up..... looked like we were content with our current plight.

Hij · « **Reply #57 on:** December 10, 2009, 08:39:13 am »

Oldie mate it was a suggestion, and it did include the words "any guys older than me feel free to tell me its shit". No need to go so over the top. I'm one voice in thousands mate.

Hij · « **Reply #58 on:** December 10, 2009, 08:42:01 am »

Anyone know what C.A.V Polizia means

AmoLiverpool · « **Reply #59 on:** December 10, 2009, 08:53:46 am »

Hi all.
I don't know the facts...
But if it is true, that the Kop didn't show the mosaic cause an opinion of a Juventus fan went here... personally I'm really disappointed.

I don't want to bother you about rivalry between Fiorentina and Juventus fan, and I already said my opinion about the twinning and the Heysel's facts in the threads of Fiorentina - Liverpool.

I think that you could meet our fans and our hospitality.
We think really that you are a legend to be a fan.

Cheers from Florence.

Veinticinco de Mayo · « **Reply #60 on:** December 10, 2009, 09:01:41 am »

Quote from: Tiz Lad on December 10, 2009, 08:14:16 am

Thanks to a last minute half baked Change of plans statement

No. Thanks to the situation on the ground which is that a good proportion of match going fans don't want any protest to happen at the game. Also factor in that last night I would estimate (from a straw poll around us) that 50 - 65% of regs had moved their tickets on to non-regs then the level of disinterest was probably even higher.

It's all very well setting yourself up as the leader of the great rebellion Tiz Lad, but you have to take the people with you, without them you are nothing.

Veinticinco de Mayo · « **Reply #61 on:** December 10, 2009, 09:07:43 am »

Quote from: AmoLiverpool on December 10, 2009, 08:53:46 am

Hi all.
I don't know the facts...
But if it is true, that the Kop didn't show the mosaic cause an opinion of a Juventus fan went here... personally I'm really disappointed.

I don't want to bother you about rivalry between Fiorentina and Juventus fan, and I already said my opinion about the twinning and the Heysel's facts in the threads of Fiorentina - Liverpool.

I think that you could meet our fans and our hospitality.
We think really that you are a legend to be a fan.

Cheers from Florence.

Hello mate. Welcome to RAWK and congratulations on both last night's result and on topping the group. All the best for the rest of the competition particularly if you draw another English team at some stage.

Please don't take the cancellation of the mosaic as a sleight on the hospitality shown by the Viola. Unfortunately in the end it was a situation in which there could be no winner but given Liverpool FC's history there was no way that the club could proceed with something that would be seen as being insensitive to feelings in Torino.

Tiz Lad · « **Reply #62 on:** December 10, 2009, 10:57:39 am »

Quote from: Veinticinco de Mayo on December 10, 2009, 09:01:41 am

No. Thanks to the situation on the ground which is that a good proportion of match going fans don't want any protest to happen at the game. Also factor in that last night I would estimate (from a straw poll around us) that 50 - 65% of regs had moved their tickets on to non-regs then the level of disinterest was probably even higher.

It's all very well setting yourself up as the leader of the great rebellion Tiz Lad, but you have to take the people with you, without them you are nothing.

Not doing anything of the sort, but last minute changes to plans, lead to disorganisation and confusion. I readily admit I'm nothing to you, not that I'm bothered.

I'm not intending to take the people with me, just expressing an opinion, but that's not wanted either.

If you think that anything with more fervour will happen on Sunday as an expression of our levels of disgust with the owners then great, however I doubt it will happen.

Mr Hicks and his entourage will swan in and out on Sunday, mumble their way the YNWA with their new scarves for the game, without the slightest notion thart anything's going on.

Frank. · « **Reply #63 on:** December 10, 2009, 11:25:21 am »

Quote from: Dr Cornwallis on December 9, 2009, 05:19:11 pm

What is it with violence and Italian fans? There's nothing in the least bit hard about them, just a pack of little bollocks looking for a big cock to hang off. Fuck off, the lot of yers.

Try watch International Football factories: Italy. Gives a good insight

LukeLFC · « **Reply #64 on:** December 10, 2009, 11:26:50 am »

Quote from: Hij on December 10, 2009, 08:42:01 am

Anyone know what C.A.V Polizia means

Yeh same, there was a banner in 306 last night.

Caffeine · « **Reply #65 on:** December 10, 2009, 11:31:26 am »

Quote from: DangerScouse on December 9, 2009, 05:26:21 pm

Wasn't there an article about the ultras booing one of Juve's black players a few weeks back?

It was Momo Sissoko.

Pheeny · « **Reply #66 on:** December 10, 2009, 11:34:38 am »

Quote from: Joga on December 10, 2009, 11:31:26 am

It was Momo Sissoko.

I believe it was another black player but Momo said that he'd leave if they continued to do it.

Something Else · « **Reply #67 on:** December 10, 2009, 11:40:08 am »

Quote from: Pheeny on December 10, 2009, 11:34:38 am

I believe it was another black player but Momo said that he'd leave if they continued to do it.

Balotelli was the fella, Italian international and think he got shit playing for the national team too

AmoLiverpool · « **Reply #68 on:** December 10, 2009, 01:58:32 pm »

Quote from: Veinticinco de Mayo on December 10, 2009, 09:07:43 am

Unfortunately in the end it was a situation in which there could be no winner but given Liverpool FC's history there was no way that the club could proceed with something that would be seen as being insensitive to feelings in Torino.

Respect for your choice.

Please let me remember you the answer of Juventus fans about the proposal of friendship:

If you want, below there are my words after Fiorentina - Liverpool and my opinion about the twinning.
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=244223.3000

YNWA

Veinticinco de Mayo · « **Reply #69 on:** December 10, 2009, 02:05:48 pm »

To be honest we didn't really have a choice mate. Given the concerns raised about the nature of the Liverpool - Fiorentina friendship (even if they are without foundation) the club could not be seen to officially endorse that friendship.

In life you can only do what you think is right, how people react to that is largely beyond your control.

4pool · « **Reply #70 on:** December 10, 2009, 02:24:58 pm »

Quote from: alex. on December 9, 2009, 05:28:11 pm

I think the Wigan game has been picked for Shanks' celebration so I highly doubt there will be protests then.

I think this is bad information.

The Arsenal match is the Shanks tribute. Which is why apparently both owners will be over.

I think .tv will expand on Shanks Day and then we'll know for sure.

Hij · « **Reply #71 on:** December 10, 2009, 02:27:02 pm »

Quote from: 4pool on December 10, 2009, 02:24:58 pm

I think this is bad information.

The Arsenal match is the Shanks tribute. Which is why apparently both owners will be over.

I think .tv will expand on Shanks Day and then we'll know for sure.

It's Thursday though!

4pool · « **Reply #72 on:** December 10, 2009, 02:28:47 pm »

Quote from: Hij on December 10, 2009, 02:27:02 pm

It's Thursday though!

Arsenal would be picked because it is the nearest league match.

Uefa have all their sponsor duties so the club have more of a problem doing something when we play in the CL.

As i say, could be wrong but we'll know soon enough.

No666 · « **Reply #73 on:** December 10, 2009, 02:36:06 pm »

The owners are coming over to pay tribute to Shanks??? I wonder what Karen Gill would think of them trying to hijack his day to try to win a few brownie points???

OohCampione · « **Reply #74 on:** December 10, 2009, 02:49:49 pm »

Quote from: No666 on December 10, 2009, 02:36:06 pm

The owners are coming over to pay tribute to Shanks??? I wonder what Karen Gill would think of them trying to hijack his day to try to win a few brownie points???

Yes, of course, they're only paying tribute to the Great Man just to gain brownie point.

Take your head out of the clouds, if they didn't attend, they'd get slaughtered. Have you ever thought they may just attend because they want to?

4pool · « **Reply #75 on:** December 10, 2009, 03:01:42 pm »

Quote from: No666 on December 10, 2009, 02:36:06 pm

The owners are coming over to pay tribute to Shanks??? I wonder what Karen Gill would think of them trying to hijack his day to try to win a few brownie points???

It is the Club who would be honouring our great Shanks.

24∗7 · « **Reply #76 on:** December 10, 2009, 03:01:46 pm »

Excellent replies, Kev......

alex. · « **Reply #77 on:** December 10, 2009, 03:02:19 pm »

Quote from: No666 on December 10, 2009, 02:36:06 pm

The owners are coming over to pay tribute to Shanks??? I wonder what Karen Gill would think of them trying to hijack his day to try to win a few brownie points???

Indeed.

DangerScouse · « **Reply #78 on:** December 10, 2009, 03:07:42 pm »

Quote from: OohCampione on December 10, 2009, 02:49:49 pm

Yes, of course, they're only paying tribute to the Great Man just to gain brownie point.

Take your head out of the clouds, if they didn't attend, they'd get slaughtered. Have you ever thought they may just attend because they want to?

Do you honestly think they give a flying fuck about the clubs history and traditions?

balticred · « **Reply #79 on:** December 10, 2009, 03:19:04 pm »

Quote from: Veinticinco de Mayo on December 10, 2009, 09:01:41 am

Also factor in that last night I would estimate (from a straw poll around us) that 50 - 65% of regs had moved their tickets on to non-regs then the level of disinterest was probably even higher.

Judging by those around me that is true - but I find it ironic and sad that so many who claim to be 'the real support' swerve games like this when I believe we could have made a real point by showing up loud and en masse for a dead rubber.

A full angry Anfield last night would have made a point about what the club means to the fans - unfortunately it was a million miles from that.