Topic: Liverpool plan £250m field of dreams

[itsgunnabebarnes!]

Are you taking the piss?

no i was not. It might not be for big games. i have my doubts that we would sell out 65,000- 70,000 regularly.

[CraigDS]

no i was not. It might not be for big games. i have my doubts that we would sell out 65,000- 70,000 regularly.

We have something like a 60,000 waiting list for season tickets, now Im guessing these people want them to come to every game and not just the big games.

Lets just say only 1/4er actually buy a ticket if offered, thats an extra 15,000 people right there. Add to that the extras we could sell through the ticket office and you're knocking on for mid 60's already.

[Styf]

What's the peoples opinion about this design (bottom of the link) and anyone who could explain the background for the designers work?

http://www.ianritchiearchitects.co.uk/news/2008.html

[Alan_X]

What's the peoples opinion about this design (bottom of the link) and anyone who could explain the background for the designers work?

http://www.ianritchiearchitects.co.uk/news/2008.html

Ian Ritchie is a Liverpool fan and architect. He prepared those designs off his own back because he doesn't like the HKS design.

[dannymc]

This Is Not Just Anfield.
This is M&S Anfield....

Nike - Just Anfield.

Then I got carried away/bored.

Adidas - Impossible is Anfield.

Heinz - Beanz Meanz Anfield.

Carlsberg - Probably Anfield?

Are you on fucking drugs ?

[Des Equilibrante]

Are you on fucking drugs ?

Are you not? 

[crazeehorse]

What's the peoples opinion about this design (bottom of the link) and anyone who could explain the background for the designers work?

http://www.ianritchiearchitects.co.uk/news/2008.html

love this compared to the parrybowl and t.hick's airport.

[Styf]

Ian Ritchie is a Liverpool fan and architect. He prepared those designs off his own back because he doesn't like the HKS design.

I know that the club would never use this design, but is it possible in practice? As far as I know it's a expanding of Anfield and not a new stadium, but maybe I'm wrong?

[Paul Gardner]

I know that the club would never use this design, but is it possible in practice? As far as I know it's a expanding of Anfield and not a new stadium, but maybe I'm wrong?

That design is a new stadium and not an expansion.

[alex.]

Are you on fucking drugs ?

ahaha

[Styf]

That design is a new stadium and not an expansion.

Are the design and capacity possible in practice?

[Paul Gardner]

Are the design and capacity possible in practice?

Of course they would be possible, but only drawings for now there. The club wouldn't scrap a further set of plans for these when they aren't even going to build the stadium anyway.

[Alan_X]

I know that the club would never use this design, but is it possible in practice? As far as I know it's a expanding of Anfield and not a new stadium, but maybe I'm wrong?

It's for a new ground on the Stanley Park site. There's an aerial shot that shows it clearly.

[James B]

If we can't call it the new Anfield then I'd rather just call it by its proper name, 'Stanley Park', than name it 'the Easyjet stadium' or some other shite name.

[SP]

If we can't call it the new Anfield then I'd rather just call it by its proper name, 'Stanley Park', than name it 'the Easyjet stadium' or some other shite name.

Nobody chooses to have a corporate name. But it gets more interesting when you ask what is your price to overcome those scruples? £250M on top of the shirt deal, I would be in favour of it. £250M but including a £20M a year shirt sponsorship for 20 years, and I'd rather tell them where to stick it. Somewhere in between is a tipping point where the money becomes overwhelming. Where is it for you?

[shanklyboy]

Nobody chooses to have a corporate name. But it gets more interesting when you ask what is your price to overcome those scruples? £250M on top of the shirt deal, I would be in favour of it. £250M but including a £20M a year shirt sponsorship for 20 years, and I'd rather tell them where to stick it. Somewhere in between is a tipping point where the money becomes overwhelming. Where is it for you?

Not interested at any price.

We won't get £250 million and even if we did in 10,15,20 years time that amount will be absolutely nothing yet we will have sold our soul for it.

[SP]

Not interested at any price.

We won't get £250 million and even if we did in 10,15,20 years time that amount will be absolutely nothing yet we will have sold our soul for it.

And to replace that £20M of potential income annually would you rather that each ticket went up by £8  (£152 on a season ticket)?

[Olives]

Nobody chooses to have a corporate name. But it gets more interesting when you ask what is your price to overcome those scruples? £250M on top of the shirt deal, I would be in favour of it. £250M but including a £20M a year shirt sponsorship for 20 years, and I'd rather tell them where to stick it. Somewhere in between is a tipping point where the money becomes overwhelming. Where is it for you?

£250 million over 20 years wouldn't even cover the shirt mate, it works out at only £12.5 million a year

£20 million a year shirt sponsorship for 20 years would be £400million on its own.

[Olives]

Not interested at any price.

We won't get £250 million and even if we did in 10,15,20 years time that amount will be absolutely nothing yet we will have sold our soul for it.

sold our soul...?  don't forget that we were the first professional club with a sponsor on our shirts.

[Alan_X]

sold our soul...?  don't forget that we were the first professional club with a sponsor on our shirts.

[SP]

£250 million over 20 years wouldn't even cover the shirt mate, it works out at only £12.5 million a year

£20 million a year shirt sponsorship for 20 years would be £400million on its own.

Mea Culpa, I cocked up the maths, but the underlying point remains...

[shanklyboy]

sold our soul...?  don't forget that we were the first professional club with a sponsor on our shirts.

Hardly the same is it.
Unless you don't mind us playing in blue if the next corporate sponsor is willing to pay us £30 million a year to do so.

[shanklyboy]

And to replace that £20M of potential income annually would you rather that each ticket went up by £8  (£152 on a season ticket)?

You think that money would go towards keeping the entrance fees down?

[Promised to never post on RAWK again]

Ian Ritchie is a Liverpool fan and architect. He prepared those designs off his own back because he doesn't like the HKS design.

I have always liked Ritchie's proposal.

By the way, what do you think of this concept, Alan ?

(Independiente's new stadium)







Personally, I kinda like the towers in the corners.

[henrydk]

What's the peoples opinion about this design (bottom of the link) and anyone who could explain the background for the designers work?

http://www.ianritchiearchitects.co.uk/news/2008.html

Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. By far the best design i have seen so far.

[johnthescouser]

I have always liked Ritchie's proposal.

By the way, what do you think of this concept, Alan ?

(Independiente's new stadium)







Personally, I kinda like the towers in the corners.

Thats Boss! I really like that set up
Maybe the exec boxes could be put in those corners?
Big Kop at one end, sorted.

[SP]

Thats Boss! I really like that set up
Maybe the exec boxes could be put in those corners?
Big Kop at one end, sorted.

Exec Boxes are going to demand premium viewing positions. They will always cluster around the half way line.

[Olives]

Mea Culpa, I cocked up the maths, but the underlying point remains...

yeah, whilst there is an emotional aversion to selling the naming rights, there is a point at which it the financial incentive becomes too strong.  £5 million a year, you can sod off, but if you are offering £15 million a year... that is very worthy of consideration.  Of course the name would have to be somewhat respectable, the Smeg Stadium is not on really.

I wonder what companies would be willing and able to pay £200-300+ million over 20 years just to sponsor a stadium though.  it would probably be an international company looking to expand to the UK.  It is possible though - in the US, Citigroup are sponsoring the Mets new stadium (Citifield) paying $20million a year for 20 years.  With our brand and the increasing popularity of the EPL around the world, some top companies could see Anfield as a chance to promote themselves globally and in the UK. 

How much would it take, per year, for people to accept selling the naming rights?

[Olives]

anyone know what the pitch size will be?

probably should go for the maximum allowed in the rules, as this will add a little extra seating capacity

[shanklyboy]

Of course the name would have to be somewhat respectable, the Smeg Stadium is not on really.

At the risk of sounding like a cracked record yet again, I'll try and come at this from a slightly different angle.

When would you decide if the name was acceptible?

[Olives]

At the risk of sounding like a cracked record yet again, I'll try and come at this from a slightly different angle.

When would you decide if the name was acceptible?

it is not very scientific, I know, but I would object if I thought that it would make the club a laughing stock.  Emirates / JJB / Reebok stadium... meh, nothing to take the piss out of there, relatively inoffensive as names really.  but if they wanted to name it the Smeg stadium, that is a no-no.

[shanklyboy]

it is not very scientific, I know, but I would object if I thought that it would make the club a laughing stock.  Emirates / JJB / Reebok stadium... meh, nothing to take the piss out of there, relatively inoffensive as names really.  but if they wanted to name it the Smeg stadium, that is a no-no.

That's not what I'm asking.

When do you think you will find out what the name is and if you don't like it or the amount of money we are being paid to change it...... when do you think you will be able to do anything about it?

[Olives]

That's not what I'm asking.

When do you think you will find out what the name is and if you don't like it or the amount of money we are being paid to change it...... when do you think you will be able to do anything about it?

I am not sure I understand what you mean or what you are getting at.  I don't think I'd be able to do anything at any time, it is a decision for the club.

[shanklyboy]

I am not sure I understand what you mean or what you are getting at.  I don't think I'd be able to do anything at any time, it is a decision for the club.

That's exactly my point.
It's fine to say I don't mind naming rights as long as it's not something ridiculous.
However, you will find out what it is once the deal is signed and sealed. Then there will be nothing you can do about it.......however unacceptable or farcical the name is.

[Olives]

That's exactly my point.
It's fine to say I don't mind naming rights as long as it's not something ridiculous.
However, you will find out what it is once the deal is signed and sealed. Then there will be nothing you can do about it.......however unacceptable or farcical the name is.

there is nothing I can do about it anyway.  it is not like LFC are waiting for me to give the go ahead on the naming rights, and will tell us who it will be later.  they will probably sell the naming rights, regardless of what we think about it.  so what can we do about it either way? nothing. 

[Brian Blessed]

20 million quid a year for ten years, more for any year after that. That's my price. Adidas being my sponsor of choice.

[shanklyboy]

20 million quid a year for ten years, more for any year after that. That's my price. Adidas being my sponsor of choice.

As I keep saying mate.......if this is allowed to happen........you don't get a choice.

[Trada]

Purslow makes assurances over new stadium

Liverpool managing director Christian Purslow has assured England’s 2018 World Cup Campaign team that the New Anfield Stadium will be completed in time to host matches if England’s bid is succesful.

Purslow intervened when the city of Liverpool was, reportedly, almost rejected as a potential host city when the cities were announced yesterday.

Purslow met with the chairman of the bid team, Lord Mawhinney, and provided assurances that the new Anfield will be ready.

Peter Shaw, Liverpool’s assistant executive director said “Our plans remain exactly the same, our intention is to build a new stadium. The financial markets need to be right for the club to move forward on the stadium and in the new year maybe that will happen. A stadium is needed and that stadium will be the new Anfield.”

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2009/12/17/purslow-makes-assurances-over-new-stadium/

[The Manhattan Project]

New Anfield AKA Spruce Goose

[Brian Blessed]

As I keep saying mate.......if this is allowed to happen........you don't get a choice.

I never said I did, it's purely my opinion. Almost nothing (or nothing) said in the main forum makes a bit of difference to the team whatsoever, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be discussed.