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« on: August 3, 2009, 04:35:35 am »
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”I have two daughters, one of them is Valencian and both of them are falleras, for this reason the city of Valencia and Valencia FC will always be in my thoughts and in my heart.”

These were the final words of Rafa Benitez as manager of Valencia. On Tuesday the 2nd of June 2004 he spoke of “personal and emotional damage” that had forced him to reconsider his position. That summer he was to sever an emotional connection, just as he had at Real Madrid nine years earlier, to further his career and achieve his goals.

Leaving Valencia was the biggest decision in the career of a manager who had never spent more than two seasons at a club before his move to the Mestalla in the summer of 2001. His family had settled, his youngest daughter was Valencian and he had a club that could match his ambition. In his three seasons at the club he became their most successful manager, winning the league twice and adding the UEFA cup in his final season.

In typical Benitez fashion he had mapped out a plan for long-term success. Thankfully as far as Liverpool were concerned, the board at Valencia were determined to undermine it. Throughout his time at the club Benitez had fancied Eto’o. He would eventually get Ricardo Oliveira as an alternative. The now infamous “I’ve asked for a table and they’ve brought me a lamp” would become the sound bite for his disillusion at the way the board at Valencia acted. At the turn of the year in that final season he was to drive home his desire to improve. There was no clever sound bite, just indignation at being out of sync with a board at the club he desperately wanted to improve and at pace.

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”We need reinforcements, now is the time to improve. The team has done well, but if we want to last out until the end we must have signings in some positions that are shaky.”

No signings would arrive and Rafa would respond with what has since become the characteristic angry press conference:

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”I’ve heard a member of the board who says that we don’t need any signings, that the players aren’t tired, aren’t stale, well get as far as we can with what we’ve got.”

It was the type of news he would be greeted with again few years later, one that would set off yet another famous press conference moment; ”As always I am focused on training and coaching my team”. For a man like Rafa it must have been almost inconceivable that those running the club at an administrative level were not as committed to continual progress as those running the club on the footballing level. Denying quick and steady progress to a man determined to build a legacy would have seemed like a personal affront.

Like so many things in life, Rafa’s obsessive nature and desire for constant improvement could be summed up best in a quote from Bill Shankly, the man whose footsteps he would one day follow in; “Of course I didn’t take my wife to see Rochdale as an anniversary present, it was her birthday. Would I have got married in the football season? Anyway, it was Rochdale reserves.”

Hidden behind the typical Shankly wit there was the anorakish attention to detail and a level of obsession that few would be able to understand. Whether the story is true or not doesn’t matter; it would have been something Benitez could have immediately related to in 2004 when he took over at Shankly’s club.

Benitez had spent his own honeymoon in Italy, watching Milan train. It is unlikely to have come as a surprise to his wife Montse however. When speaking on local radio in the summer of 2008 she confessed that when she and Rafa had began dating, he spent most of his time discussing formations and explaining how they worked with salt and pepper shakers. It must have been painfully obvious to her from early on that Rafa was a driven man who knew exactly what he wanted, and was committed to improving and doing his part to get it.

That is why he could no longer work at Valencia. Despite insisting that ”I’ll never be better anywhere than in Valencia” by the summer of 2004 he felt as if he had to move on. Valencia had been the making of Rafa Benitez as a top class manager. Within 3 years he had gone from promotion specialist in the Segunda division to one of the most highly sought after coaches on the planet. He was to leave a club he had taken back to the top, a city where his youngest daughter had been born, and a where his family was happy. He was to uproot to one of football’s great institutions.


Anyone who has been on a package holiday has probably felt similar pain to Benitez when he arrived at Liverpool. Before his feet were even under the table it would have become aware that the job was not as it appeared in the brochure. Benitez would admit as much a year later when his debut season achievements were chronicled in A Season On The Brink. There have been rumours about just what Rafa was promised when he took over at the club. One rumour was that he was made aware of Owen’s desire to leave, but would be allowed three big (£10m+) signings to compensate for his loss. They were not forthcoming. The club was already committed to buying Djibril Cisse from Auxerre, and Benitez’s only big signing – Xabi Alonso – was purchased through the sales of players already at the club.

Whatever the truth of what Rafa was promised he was already at the club by the time he found out that it wasn’t the idyllic fixer-upper he’d hoped for. Giving the kiss of life to a giant that had crawled on its hands and knees just to make Europe’s premier competition the season previous and winning it – particularly in the manner which it was won – should go down as the most miraculous feat of management. Long-term however it wouldn’t disguise the failings of the club he inherited.

Liverpool Football Club should be at the very pinnacle of world football. To play for the club you have to be exceptional. The wheat is separated from the chaff and only the best make it to a club of that stature. Playing for Liverpool isn’t for everyone it is for an elite few. Yet when Rafa took over it seemed as though just about any middling Premier League footballer could turn up and pull on the red shirt. Turning around results is one thing, but re-imposing the identity of a club that was once feared and respected all over the continent was a different matter altogether. Beating Deportivo away with a patchwork team will gain respect, but the players on the pitch that night were never going to regain the aura of invincibility that once surrounded the club.

What would have appeared to be in Rafa’s favour however was that he would get time, patience and support – where possible – from his board at Liverpool. The fact that he didn’t have the money to compete with Chelsea and United – never mind the clubs from the continent – was offset by the ability to mould a club from top to bottom. That was something he was denied by the board at Valencia. The fact that his efforts were curtailed by various people within his own club is what forced Benitez to leave his own country. The culture of interference and undermining is – fancifully –considered alien to the boardrooms at English clubs, Liverpool in particular historically. It must have come as an unpleasant surprise then, when a couple of months into Rafa’s third season he was being criticised by an unnamed director of the football club.

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“Normally, by the time you get to October, you'd expect the manager to know his best team and stick with it but there are no signs of that happening now. I don't think he could tell you what his best team is”

The director was later revealed to be Noel White, a former chairman who would come in for fierce criticism in Brian Reade’s book a few years later. White rightly fell on his sword, but it did little to make the incident any more pleasant. Direct criticism of the manager through the press was not something that the club needed. It was exactly the sort of thing that had driven Benitez out of Spain. He could have taken it as a warning sign, but chose instead to do what he does best – use it to his advantage. He got the support of the fans that he knew he would. His Liverpool side would go on to inflict Martin O’Neill’s first defeat as Aston Villa manager the day after White resigned. It was their best display of the season to date and showed an intensity that would become apparent on another run to a European Cup final.


Athens was no Istanbul. It was an unpleasant experience from the off. Issues with ticketing beforehand, a performance that lacked cutting edge and then calls for strengthening, that Rafa felt fell on deaf ears, quickly followed. In a press conference the day after Rafa spoke of the need to “Spend big and spend now”. He hadn’t yet lived down the frustration of the toothless display the night before and much like at Valencia in the January of 2004, he had the bit between his teeth. He wanted to strengthen. The club had been sold; the new ‘custodians’ were there to sign the cheques with zero interference and let the manager get who he wanted. Instead of this being the case there was a chess match played out in the press, with Rick Parry, the man charged with getting Benitez what he wanted, insisting every thing was hunky dory, despite that clearly not being the case.

For a man who left Valencia because he felt the machinations of the club worked against him as he tried to improve from a position of strength, Liverpool was hardly plain sailing.

The boardroom problems that followed are well documented. It took Rafa nearly 2 years from Athens to consolidate a position of strength at the club. The political animal that learnt to fend for himself at Valencia had to work twice as hard to do the same at Liverpool. He could have walked away at any time. Before he arrived at the club he had offers from Internazionale, Beşiktaş and Tottenham Hotspurs. Throughout his first couple of years the spectre of Real Madrid hung in the background. Even days before the extent of his disillusion at the clubs American owners was made clear he revealed that he had no intention of leaving to join Bayern Munich, who were reportedly interested.

The prospect of leaving Liverpool shouldn’t have wretched the same way that leaving Valencia did. Rafa was not a Scouser but a Madrileño. Neither of his daughters were born in the city.  He was a manager in demand before he even joined Liverpool so he shouldn’t have felt any loyalty for what the club had allowed him to achieve on a professional front. But, for whatever reason, he could not bring himself to sever the emotional connection with Liverpool in the same way that he had done with both Madrid and Valencia.

Liverpool, like perhaps no-one else in the world, is a club that celebrates its managers. Whereas Madrid is Zidane and Di Stefano, Liverpool is Shankly and Paisley. The star sits in the dugout (or waves his arms frantically, in a series of inexplicable gestures, occasionally signalling the end of the game at 2-0). Nowhere else in the world would there be a Rafatollah. Perhaps it’s the unique culture of the club that made Rafa realise that he had to fight to remain. Perhaps a sense of duty to those who supported him compelled him to fight out his battles in the boardroom. Perhaps it was the chance to join the pantheon of the greats. Or maybe it was just Montse who stopped him from upping sticks, telling him he could go but she and the children would stay.


Five years on from arriving Rafa has fought through more battles at Liverpool than he did at Valencia. He said he’d never be better than he was in Valencia, but he is, and he fought tooth and nail for the chance to show it when the easier (and at the time smarter) option would have been to walk away.

To become the architect of a club is an opportunity that not many coaches have. A strong character, vision, commitment and talent must all be part of the individual who gets the chance, not to mention an understanding for the history and the philosophy of that club and its supporters. Most managers, even the very best, move from club to club picking up trophies along the way. Their legacy is in the medals they’ve won, not the hearts and minds of the supporters of the clubs they guided to success. Very few managers leave behind a legacy in both, but that is the opportunity Rafa Benitez has. The opportunity he fought for.


In five years at the club he has been ridiculed constantly by the media, doubted by ex-pros, and mocked for his tactics, purchases and systems. The type of criticism every manager suffers but on a greater scale.

Rafa Benitez missed his fathers funeral to manage Liverpool football club in what was considered (right up until Manchester United won it) a joke tournament. He went through three operations on kidney stones mid-season and then immediately had to suffer taunts of ‘cracking up’ for finally having the balls to say what everyone with half a mind thinks. He’s dealt with endless boardroom squabbles, the breakdown in a relationship with one of his closest confidants and the Wrigley’s Tag-Team of Ferguson and Allardyce making ridiculous accusations of arrogance and contempt, just to get to the position he is in five years on from joining the club. To be able to go into a new season knowing that his club are competitive, that his Liverpool team possess the power to destroy any of Europe’s top clubs. The aura of invincibility hasn’t quite returned yet, but every club wants to avoid Liverpool in Europe once again. The squad he goes into the season with is no longer home to middling Premier League players but some of the finest footballers in the world, as it should be.

The air is rarefied this near to the top and the summit is in sight. The final push toward the perch will be difficult, but the fight to get there pales in comparison to the fight over the last five years to make the club Rafa’s own.
« Last Edit: August 3, 2009, 04:48:42 am by Juan Loco »
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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #1 on: August 3, 2009, 04:50:01 am »
Great read, so great i read it twice in a row, loved it.


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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #2 on: August 3, 2009, 04:51:18 am »
Brilliant fucking read

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« Reply #3 on: August 3, 2009, 05:06:30 am »
Fantastic read that. well done Mr. Loco!
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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #4 on: August 3, 2009, 05:16:06 am »
A really good read.Don't think any other manager would manage to be in such a position of strength after that focused on training press conference.If he stays for atleast another 5 years, his politicking would be compared to how Shankly battled with the board to initiate the rise of liverpool football club to the top.

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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #5 on: August 3, 2009, 05:23:21 am »
Rafa Benitez missed his fathers funeral to manage Liverpool football club

That is a brilliant post mate....well done.

The little tidbit of information quoted above, however, says it all for me about Rafael Benitez and his commitment to this football club.
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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #6 on: August 3, 2009, 05:28:07 am »
Brilliant Post..

Screw the haters.. Rafa is the king.. (of our hearts)
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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #7 on: August 3, 2009, 05:35:20 am »
You know you don't have to compete with L6, we love you both.
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« Reply #8 on: August 3, 2009, 05:43:16 am »
Brilliant!

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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #9 on: August 3, 2009, 05:43:31 am »
You know you don't have to compete with L6, we love you both.

I'm not competing with L6 - Aside from the fact that our styles are totally different, I know that lad is a way better writer than I am (and nearly everyone else on here). I write out of boredom, he writes because he'll inevitably make a career out of it.

Sad case that you can't have 3 or 4 decent threads going on RAWK at once because it'll be seen as competition. Let's just stick to pretending Alonso isn't that good in future, eh? ;)

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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #10 on: August 3, 2009, 05:54:57 am »
I'm not competing with L6 - Aside from the fact that our styles are totally different, I know that lad is a way better writer than I am (and nearly everyone else on here). I write out of boredom, he writes because he'll inevitably make a career out of it.

Sad case that you can't have 3 or 4 decent threads going on RAWK at once because it'll be seen as competition. Let's just stick to pretending Alonso isn't that good in future, eh? ;)

'ck off yer bask twat. yer not that good anyways, gago made more goals.

It was a joke, and I meant that last part, I've enjoyed yours, and his, writing despite the fact the me and you disagree on a few things.
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« Reply #11 on: August 3, 2009, 06:27:41 am »
great post
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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #12 on: August 3, 2009, 06:47:10 am »
You're a genius, Juan! Thanks for the read, mate. Sums up my view, but I could never put it so eloquently in a million years.
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« Reply #13 on: August 3, 2009, 06:52:49 am »
Absolutely brilliant Juan, but i wish it could have been longer, like a whole chapter or something.

Rafa.  Its a funny relationship i have with him as well.
When we were first linked to him and Jose Mourinho, i was tilting towards him. I could remember a Valencia machine tearing Anfield apart, and rightly so Anfield applauded him.  Rafa knew we are special. There is no other club like us. The quote he gave in response, about us being special, is in Royhendo's sig i believe. He had fell in love with us.

Jose, though, also caught our affection the manner he did the dance as manager of Porto, and almost gave rednose a stroke with that. But there is this thing about Rafa, a quiet but strong thinker. He would endear better than the brash, but charismatic Jose, whom i believe will succeed rednose very soon.

Anyway, during the course of Rafa's earlier tenure, i had doubts. Everyone did i would think, whether we admit publicly or not. He seemed to be taking too long a time to get to grips with the brawn and muscle that is the Premier League. The constant tinkering seemed too reminiscent of the original Tinkerman, Claudio Ranieri.  Clearly, i wasnt as clever. I doubted him. I did not have the vision he did. I thought he gave too many excuses, using us fans to fuilfill his personal win against the managment, regardless how inept Mr Parry & co has been.

It changed. It all changed in recent times. There is a certain affection i have for him, an utmost respect for his intelligence, his strength, and his vision i would trust him in a war. The integrity seemed synonymous with the club that is Liverpool Football Club. He put us back where we belong in Europe. At Old Trafford, he gave us the joy of thumping the bastards, brusing their ego with an unforgettable win that i watched again and again and again.

This season will be his toughest yet. He has won the boardroom battles, but that also means he has little leeway for failures. I thought to be only allowing myself one more season before i run out of patience. Not anymore. I have belief he will get us to 19 sooner rather than later, and he will go on to build a dynasty that will put himself rightfully alongside Shanks, Bob and King Kenny. 

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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #14 on: August 3, 2009, 08:13:40 am »
Fantastic way to start a monday.  A great read. In Rafa we trust :)

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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #15 on: August 3, 2009, 08:19:45 am »
Thoroughly enjoyed reading this, Mr Loco. Wonder what you do for a living...

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« Reply #16 on: August 3, 2009, 08:24:59 am »
Nice.
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« Reply #17 on: August 3, 2009, 08:39:41 am »
fantastic writing mate...

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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #18 on: August 3, 2009, 09:02:30 am »
Without doubt you are among the great writers on RAWK and that piece consolidates your position.
 
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« Reply #19 on: August 3, 2009, 09:07:31 am »
Great stuff as ever Juan.

He's got a weight of expectation on him now - big season ahead. All the pieces are in place for him management wyse - he runs the club from root to fruit now. If he can consolidate it with a truly successful season then we'll really be on to something and finance will remain as the only stone in our shoe.

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« Reply #20 on: August 3, 2009, 09:23:53 am »
Top top read Mr Juan.
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« Reply #21 on: August 3, 2009, 09:41:00 am »
That's an amazing piece Juan.   ;D
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« Reply #22 on: August 3, 2009, 10:53:51 am »
Greate post... worthy of a great man.
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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #23 on: August 3, 2009, 11:03:28 am »
Every Liverpool fan should read this, great piece. We're truly lucky to have Rafa.

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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #24 on: August 3, 2009, 11:13:21 am »
Boss read that, wish i could write like that!
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« Reply #25 on: August 3, 2009, 11:14:05 am »
Enjoyed reading that Juan, thanks for taking the time to put it here.
The telling part is almost everyone on here would agree with you. Rafa is so close to being regarded alongside Shanks and Paisley, not quite there yet but also not that far away.. He is one of us.
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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #26 on: August 3, 2009, 11:17:55 am »
Nice post mate. Just typifies how good a manager we have and how lucky we are.

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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #27 on: August 3, 2009, 11:18:37 am »
(not so) Loco after all?

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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #28 on: August 3, 2009, 11:37:29 am »
Absolutely brilliant Juan, but i wish it could have been longer, like a whole chapter or something.


I was thinking exactly the same. Hats off Juan for a very enjoyable read. Cheers.

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« Reply #29 on: August 3, 2009, 11:56:38 am »
Top stuff, that, and thanks, a brilliant read.

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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #30 on: August 3, 2009, 12:08:17 pm »
Fucking brilliant read that, Juan!

When there were talks that Rafa was going to leave midway through the season, I was very confident that he wouldn't. The man is a thorough professional and he never leaves a project mid-way. Rafa will continue to work with the team until we win the league a few times and the European Cup once again. We have to be thankful to Rafa for making what Liverpool are today.

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« Reply #31 on: August 3, 2009, 12:12:39 pm »
Wish it didn't end Juan. Excellent post.
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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #32 on: August 3, 2009, 12:25:11 pm »
Great post by Loco again, but I have one quesion what does this mean?

"anorakish attention to detail"

Is that even a word?

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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #33 on: August 3, 2009, 12:58:56 pm »
Boss Post Juan Loco.

It's boring to just agree with everything that's been said, so will throw this question up in the air...

Has Rafa made mistakes throughout his time at Anfield?

I personally think it's been a steep learning curve for him and that he has made a few errors of judgement. Stuff that maybe would've worked in Spain but might not here. Stuff like team selections, tactics and substitutions. Sometimes you could put it down to lack of resources but other times it looked like stubborness. And these "mistakes" don't seem to happen anymore. So is it fair to say he did make mistakes?




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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #34 on: August 3, 2009, 01:14:13 pm »
respect is due once again mr loco.  there is no better man to be leading our club right now but there are serious tests ahead again if xabi does go - i know it looks inevitable but i'm impressed by rafa's continuing comments that he'd prefer him to stay.   i have to say i was very interested in mourinho taking over from ged as i felt we needed a manager with a proven record of success and to be fair he'd been pretty much impeccable at porto.  however that team had a niggly, cheating aspect that martin o'neil famously went into rant mode over in the uefa cup final.  that's not the liverpool way.  rafa reminds me most of bob paisley in that he comes across as a polite and relatively unassuming personality with a focus on the team.  at the same time he's clearly a skilled political operator as no matter how intense his brinkmanship with the board he's ultimately got the chance he deserves and that is to build another dynasty.

great piece to start the week with by the way and thanks again for a sterling effort.

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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #35 on: August 3, 2009, 01:17:29 pm »
So is it fair to say he did make mistakes?


Absolutely. The problem is, more often than not, he gets slated for things that are not mistakes. In the constant barracking of him, the fair criticisms get lumped in with the farcical.

He's also quite young and still learning so mistakes are inevitable, so from my point of view, he's allowed those mistakes because it's part of his journey towards getting it right.

Great post Juan, 'lovely stuff'!

Just one thing on the stubborness Greg, I think you're spot on, he is stubborn but I can't see how you can become a top class manager without that trait. Surely you have to believe in everything you do, absolutely. That's what great leaders do.
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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #36 on: August 3, 2009, 01:20:04 pm »
Good post Juan.

Boss Post Juan Loco.

It's boring to just agree with everything that's been said, so will throw this question up in the air...

Has Rafa made mistakes throughout his time at Anfield?

I personally think it's been a steep learning curve for him and that he has made a few errors of judgement. Stuff that maybe would've worked in Spain but might not here. Stuff like team selections, tactics and substitutions. Sometimes you could put it down to lack of resources but other times it looked like stubborness. And these "mistakes" don't seem to happen anymore. So is it fair to say he did make mistakes?

And a good reply- I'm sure Juan would have wanted posts like ^^ which try and get the discussion going. 

Rafa's definitely been on a learning curve... even if he'd have stayed in La Liga he would have constantly been taking in new things- and significant things- because of his relative lack of experience. In the PL, it was very much a baptism of fire. We expected too much looking back on it because the team we had when he came in was shocking. Fast forward 4 years, Torres, Babel and Mascherano join the steadily improving team (we'd already had players like Agger, Kuyt, Alonso, Reina and Sissoko) and suddenly we had a squad good enough to challenge for the league.

It's a massive difference between where he started and where we are now.

In terms of mistakes along the way- you could argue he was perhaps a bit too conservative at times. The CL final in 2007 we were the better team, but there was no real show of attacking ambition in the starting line up. Reading away when we lost 3-1... there's a handful of examples. I'm not sure that the draws against the lower league teams are 'mistakes' per se, but rather, they're a risk we take with our playing style. Saachi once said of his AC Milan side, that they would come unstuck against the lower league teams. It's fair to say Rafa's more than just 'inspired' by him.

Last season we saw pretty poor performances at the start of the season, and it followed on from a poor summer in terms of transfers (relative to Rafa's previously high standards- when he'd willingly spent big, it'd been for players like Torres, Mascherano, Alonso... but instead we saw Keane and Dossena who were quickly out of the first teams or even the squad).

It all got outweighed after that Middlesbrough game though. It was a sort of harmonic coming together of players, fans and manager. I think our whole team- including Rafa- came of age, tipped over the edge, 'clicked'... that cacophonic shambles in his first season- where we could conceivably lose against a Championship side but then go on and win a Champions League trophy has steadily come into tune over the years. The instruments and musicians were tweeked, changed and brought in, and the conductor was improving all the while. In 2009 it's become a sweet melody which will see success.

Rafa's made mistakes, but he needed to. We ended the season with a great backroom (Rafa and Sami... great partnership- better than he and Pako in my opinion), a great squad and a great level of expectation from the fans.

It's a shame that he's seen 2 of his best players want out this summer and only one's been able to come in. In fact it leaves me with a bitter aftertaste and a slightly marred view of our 2 midfield maestros... but if there's a bloke to sort it out, it's Rafa.

Great post Juan- let's hope you get to add an account of our PL and CL wins in the next few seasons.
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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #37 on: August 3, 2009, 01:20:12 pm »
Boss Post Juan Loco.

It's boring to just agree with everything that's been said, so will throw this question up in the air...

Has Rafa made mistakes throughout his time at Anfield?

I personally think it's been a steep learning curve for him and that he has made a few errors of judgement. Stuff that maybe would've worked in Spain but might not here. Stuff like team selections, tactics and substitutions. Sometimes you could put it down to lack of resources but other times it looked like stubborness. And these "mistakes" don't seem to happen anymore. So is it fair to say he did make mistakes?





greg we all make mistakes but i think what we can characterise as being stubborn can also be read as conviction in your own opinions and in rafa's case he was joining as a two time league champion and uefa cup winner with a university background in physical training.  he was joining a club with a poor squad, limited funds and a long period of underachievement.  yes there were transfer mistakes but i don't think anyone expected morientes to disappoint - i certainly didn't - and any other errors were quicily rectified usually with decent capital recouped. 

he has clearly now adapted to the premiership even if some of the level 3 purists - and that is meant with respect gents - resent the 'australian rules' attrition style football we sometimes play against the stokes, boltons and probably now blackburns of the league but i think this year will see some more tactical adaptation with us aiming to play a more attacking style from the off though its clear that for the latter part of the season we were absolutely rocking the bells in terms of control and creation of opportunity.

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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #38 on: August 3, 2009, 01:46:12 pm »
Enjoyed reading that Juan, thanks for taking the time to put it here.
The telling part is almost everyone on here would agree with you. Rafa is so close to being regarded alongside Shanks and Paisley, not quite there yet but also not that far away.. He is one of us.

Muchas gracias, senor Loco  ;) - I would also like to thank you for going to that effort to remind us to appreciate what we have - and what we may (soon) have. :champ :champ :champ

More importantly, it rescues us from the endless round of "burn that traitor Xabi" posts only interspersed with "(player X) is not good enough to wear the Liverpool shirt!"  and now supplemented with "I know it's only a pre-season match - BUT..." threads :puke2

I have just circulated it amongst all my mates.

Have a good day. :wave

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Re: Street fighter and strategist
« Reply #39 on: August 3, 2009, 03:47:56 pm »
Cracking post...The best that I have read in a long time  :)
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