Topic: The Apollo moon landings thread

[charlie farley]

I watched a docu where they asked the question did it happen?
Think about it... If we travel to the equator it gets bloody hot coz we are nearer the sun. And if we go to the n/s poles it fookin freeeezin coz we are further away. How can u stand on the moon which is sometimes thousands of miles nearer or further away and not freeze or melt

just a thought ....

[mulfella]

The next user to pollute this thread with the c*nspiracy word will receive a free holiday from RAWK. Mankind has repeatedly been to the moon and back on a series of well documented missions. Anyone who has cause to take issue with that fact can FUCK OFF.

Doesn't quite fit the criteria but

I watched a docu where they asked the question did it happen?
Think about it... If we travel to the equator it gets bloody hot coz we are nearer the sun. And if we go to the n/s poles it fookin freeeezin coz we are further away. How can u stand on the moon which is sometimes thousands of miles nearer or further away and not freeze or melt

just a thought ....

 

[Farman]

I watched a docu where they asked the question did it happen?
Think about it... If we travel to the equator it gets bloody hot coz we are nearer the sun. And if we go to the n/s poles it fookin freeeezin coz we are further away. How can u stand on the moon which is sometimes thousands of miles nearer or further away and not freeze or melt

just a thought ....

The only thing about to freeze or melt is your posting ability I reckon.

[Alan_X]

I watched a docu where they asked the question did it happen?
Think about it... If we travel to the equator it gets bloody hot coz we are nearer the sun. And if we go to the n/s poles it fookin freeeezin coz we are further away. How can u stand on the moon which is sometimes thousands of miles nearer or further away and not freeze or melt

just a thought ....

Jesus wept! Do you really think that it's hotter at the Equator because it's closer to the Sun than at the poles?  The average distance from the Earth to the Sun is 92.5 million miles and the diameter of the Earth is only 8,000 miles. So by that reckoning the poles are 4,000 miles further away or about 0.0043% of the distance.

If that really made a difference we'd be totally fucked because the Earths orbit isn't circular and the difference between the closest and most distant points on our orbit is 3.5 million miles...

Maybe you should stop watching bollocks and read some grown-up books (ones that explain that it's the angle of incidence that affects the temperature and how the angle of the earth's axis creates the seasons).

...just a thought...

[GBF]

I watched a docu where they asked the question did it happen?
Think about it... If we travel to the equator it gets bloody hot coz we are nearer the sun. And if we go to the n/s poles it fookin freeeezin coz we are further away. How can u stand on the moon which is sometimes thousands of miles nearer or further away and not freeze or melt

just a thought ....

your profile says you are 34, if you really are, then its never late to learn reading a 6th form geography book or learn to google

[Dr. Beaker]

I watched a docu where they asked the question did it happen?
Think about it... If we travel to the equator it gets bloody hot coz we are nearer the sun. And if we go to the n/s poles it fookin freeeezin coz we are further away. How can u stand on the moon which is sometimes thousands of miles nearer or further away and not freeze or melt

just a thought ....

That must be why me feet always feel cold but me head doesn't.

[kesey]

Geeks.

[Alan_X]

Geeks.

Lovely place Athens...

[Wilbur]

This thread is the finest source of unintended humor I have read in a long week.

Thank you, Charlie Farley.

[Dr. Beaker]

This thread is the finest source of unintended humor I have read in a long week.

Thank you, Charlie Farley.

I reckon he's a goddam rusky.

[kesey]

Lovely place Athens...

Istanbul is better.

[PROPER crazyemlyn72]

"Send Your Name To The Moon"  was the name of a little project that nasa did with the LRV

satellite. basically you submitted your name, it goes on a memory stick/card they stick it

on the craft and viola, your name is orbitting the moon. You then print out a little certificate

with your name on it, simple and nice.

I did it for my 2 kids and when they seen their names on an official looking piece of paper

they got curious, "ehhh da, whats that all about?"...."oh yea...I signed yis up, yis are going

to the moon". Tears, pandemonium....wifey wants to kill me. I tell yas i have the best behaved

kids ever, this summer. best parenting skills ever."BE GOOD OR ITS TO THE MOON WITH YIS"

[mulfella]

A rat done bit my sister Nell
With Whitey on the moon
Her face and arms began to swell
And Whitey's on the moon

I can't pay no doctor bills
But Whitey's on the moon
Ten years from now I'll be paying still
While whitey's on the moon

You know, the man just upped my rent last night
Cause whitey's on the moon
No hot water, no toilets, no lights
But whitey's on the moon

I wonder why he's uppin' me?
Cause whitey's on the moon?
Well i was already given him fifty a week
And now whitey's on the moon

Taxes takin' my whole damn check
The junkies make me a nervous wreck
The price of food is goin up
And if all that crap wasn't enough
A rat done bit my sister nell
With whitey on the moon

Her face and arm began to swell
And whitey's on the moon

With all that money i made last year
For whitey on the moon
How come I ain't got no money here?
Hmm, whitey's on the moon

You know I just about had my fill
Of whitey on the moon
I think I'll send these doctor bills
airmail special
(To whitey on the moon)

[lurganboy]

For anyone interested this is on in half an hour - probably available on demand thereafter.


For All Mankind

Monday 28 December
11:00pm - 12:20am
BBC4

In July 1969, the space race ended when Apollo 11 fulfilled President Kennedy's challenge of landing a man on the Moon and returning him safely to earth. No-one who witnessed the lunar landing will ever forget it. Breathtaking both in the scope of its vision and the exhilaration of the human emotions it captures, Al Reinert's classic 1989 documentary is the story of 24 men who travelled to the moon, told in their words, in their voices and using the images of their experiences.

[jaffod]

I watched a docu where they asked the question did it happen?
Think about it... If we travel to the equator it gets bloody hot coz we are nearer the sun. And if we go to the n/s poles it fookin freeeezin coz we are further away. How can u stand on the moon which is sometimes thousands of miles nearer or further away and not freeze or melt

just a thought ....

Just stumbled across this. Classic. Reminded me of a girl I worked with, dead now God bless her. She joined a gym on County Road because they had a sunbathing area on the roof, the mad cow thought she would get a better tan because she would be "nearer to the Sun".

[Paul JH]

That must be why me feet always feel cold but me head doesn't.

Haha! 

(sorry mods, just have to say this) You only had to see the astronaut on James May's programme to see that going to the moon had a powerful effect on some of the blokes who went up there. The guy who has literally painted moon paintings for years now. And the documentary In The Shadow of The Moon and the interviews with the guys who went there and how it's affected them, to see that any and all c*nspiracy books about the moon should be burned now.

[Paul JH]

For anyone interested this is on in half an hour - probably available on demand thereafter.


For All Mankind

Monday 28 December
11:00pm - 12:20am
BBC4

Is this repeated? Missed it...

[sunny_LFC]

Is this repeated? Missed it...

will be on here in a bit http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00lkvtr/For_All_Mankind/

[Art Vandelay]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/7121220/Barack-Obama-abandons-bid-to-return-to-Moon-to-allow-budget-cuts.html

Looks like we won't be returning any time soon.


Fuckers.

[GBF]

Russia and China will fight to send someone on the rock now

[SP]

New Scientist is tipping Phobos as the next big target:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20527451.100-destination-phobos-humanitys-next-giant-leap.html

Logic is that as it is tiny, there is negligible gravity, so the complications of needing huge fuel reserves to get back disappear - a gravity dimple rather than a gravity well.

[SpenceUK1968]

New Scientist is tipping Phobos as the next big target:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20527451.100-destination-phobos-humanitys-next-giant-leap.html

Logic is that as it is tiny, there is negligible gravity, so the complications of needing huge fuel reserves to get back disappear - a gravity dimple rather than a gravity well.

I bought that issue.  It reminded me of playing "Leather Goddess of Phobos" way back in the day

[Andy @ Allerton!]

your profile says you are 34, if you really are, then its never late to learn reading a 6th form geography book or learn to google

Geography? Surely Physics or Astrophysics would be a better idea?

[SP]

I bought that issue.  It reminded me of playing "Leather Goddess of Phobos" way back in the day

So did I, I too was travelling to some barren wilderness; my plane landed in Newcastle.

[Party Phil]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/7121220/Barack-Obama-abandons-bid-to-return-to-Moon-to-allow-budget-cuts.html

Looks like we won't be returning any time soon.


Fuckers.

Obviously can't afford the studio time

[finchie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgQDZbFM62M
Watch this for about 10 seconds at 4 min 23s.
Who's operating the camera at the Moon's surface? I'm puzzled at this.

I think the landings happened by the way (but am open minded to US deceptions!).

[The Gulleysucker]

Nothing to be puzzled about. It's on a motorised tripod and switched to automatic.
This sort of automatic pan/scan & focus had been in use for the previous 30 odd years for weapons development and had been pretty much perfected by the 60's after all the rocket tests over the previous 20 or so years.
The camera wasn't just haphazardly dumped on the surface, but placed at a reasonably precise location to fit in with covering the planned experiments including the escape ascent.
The escape acceleration of the LEM had already been calculated, it had to be to calculate fuel load and rock samples etc, so the angle of track and focussing if needed were reasonably predictable. A simple two axis clockwork drive with a simple telemetric trigger from the launch countdown could do that very easily, and look Ma, no hands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_TV_camera
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19730010465_1973010465.pdf

[GBF]

If only they had the iPad on the moon

[finchie]

Thanks for answering that, The Gulleysucker.

[Alan_X]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgQDZbFM62M
Watch this for about 10 seconds at 4 min 23s.
Who's operating the camera at the Moon's surface? I'm puzzled at this.

I think the landings happened by the way (but am open minded to US deceptions!).

Gulleysucckers not quite right - it was controlled by a chap called Ed Fennell from Houstion ground control...

Read the Lunar Surface Journals - there's one for each mission with every second documented transcribed with all of the video, audio and still photography. There are even anaglyph 3d images of various sites.

http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/

Journal Text: 188:01:27   MPEG Clip: (36 seconds; 4.7 MB) by Kipp Teague.

Lunar lift-off film. (Freeze-frame picture series: a visual dissection of ignition and lift-off; 395KB) The television camera was mounted on the rover which Gene parked about 145 meters east of (behind) the lunar module. The ascent stage ignites and climbs, spacecraft foil and dust flying in all directions. Ed Fendell in Houston anticipates exactly the timing of ignition, lift-off, and the rate of climb, and the camera tilts to follows the ascent. At pitchover, the throat of the ascent engine points down at the camera and its combustion is visible as a small bright light. The clip ends as Challenger reaches an altitude of 1,500 feet.

http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/a17.html

Journal text:

http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/a17.launch.html#1880127

Video Clip:

http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/a17v.launch.mov

Ascent map:

http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/A17_Asc.jpg

[The Gulleysucker]

Thanks Alan.
I didn't bother looking that bit up, it was just a very quick response I did to the 'puzzled' question as to how it could have been done.

[Alan_X]

Thanks Alan.
I didn't bother looking that bit up, it was just a very quick response I did to the 'puzzled' question as to how it could have been done.

I don't know if you've ever studied the Journals - they are amazing resources. The sheer amount of information on there is staggering. I found an old pair of 3d specs over Christmas and had a look at some of the anaglyphs (red-green 3d stereo-photography) and they were breathtaking. Never mind Avatar - seeing the moon's surface and images of the astronauts and the LEM in 3d was mind-blowing.

[finchie]

Thanks Alan_F also. Some good stuff to look at tonight. I'll get my 3d specs out also-quite excited about this!

[Art Vandelay]

The camera was on the Moon Rover.  The panning up was operated by hand by a technician back on Earth.  Due to the time delay, he had to start panning up before the LEM actually took off, so that when the command reached the camera on the moon it would lift up at the right time to track the LEM taking off.  When they did it on Apollo 15 (the first mission with a rover), they cocked it up.  16 wasn't much better, but on Apollo 17 they nailed the timing...and so whenever you see video of that, it's actually Apollo 17's LEM taking off.


Edit: bah too slow.

[Alan_X]

The camera was on the Moon Rover.  The panning up was operated by hand by a technician back on Earth.  Due to the time delay, he had to start panning up before the LEM actually took off, so that when the command reached the camera on the moon it would lift up at the right time to track the LEM taking off.  When they did it on Apollo 15 (the first mission with a rover), they cocked it up.  16 wasn't much better, but on Apollo 17 they nailed the timing...and so whenever you see video of that, it's actually Apollo 17's LEM taking off.


Edit: bah too slow.

Haha - you didn't allow for the time delay...

[Art Vandelay]

Haha - you didn't allow for the time delay...

[Zend...en the clowns]

I watched a docu where they asked the question did it happen?
Think about it... If we travel to the equator it gets bloody hot coz we are nearer the sun. And if we go to the n/s poles it fookin freeeezin coz we are further away. How can u stand on the moon which is sometimes thousands of miles nearer or further away and not freeze or melt

just a thought ....

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[buzzing]

Mythbusters did a good episode on the moon landing if people want to watch them answer few questions

PS:

I watched a docu where they asked the question did it happen?
Think about it... If we travel to the equator it gets bloody hot coz we are nearer the sun. And if we go to the n/s poles it fookin freeeezin coz we are further away. How can u stand on the moon which is sometimes thousands of miles nearer or further away and not freeze or melt

just a thought ....

Oh dear..

[kesey]

I don't know if you've ever studied the Journals - they are amazing resources. The sheer amount of information on there is staggering. I found an old pair of 3d specs over Christmas and had a look at some of the anaglyphs (red-green 3d stereo-photography) and they were breathtaking. Never mind Avatar - seeing the moon's surface and images of the astronauts and the LEM in 3d was mind-blowing.

Geek. 

[Alan_X]

Geek. 

Most definitely... To know that you're looking at something photographed by humans a quarter of a million miles from home... to look up at that amazing object hanging in the sky and realise men actually went there... you'd have to be made of stone not to be touched by the immensity of it.