Author Topic: Red Dead Redemption - Rockstar Games (Read 323310 times)

kirzer · « **Reply #320 on:** May 18, 2010, 02:47:22 pm »

Quote from: DanFromMars on May 18, 2010, 02:33:37 pm

Cheapest place to get this?

29.75 delivered at Tesco, use the code FTSL15-1 to get it down to that price. Clubcard points and quidco too.

N-Red · « **Reply #321 on:** May 18, 2010, 02:47:45 pm »

Gametrailers review

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-red-dead/100285

moving_unit · « **Reply #322 on:** May 18, 2010, 02:59:40 pm »

Cheapest I have seen it is tesco using the voucher code, FTSL15-1 you get it for about £29. ismiff shared the code.you can also use the code for anything that is in your basket at the time. It gets you 15% off.

moving_unit · « **Reply #323 on:** May 18, 2010, 03:00:43 pm »

Beat me to it kirzer

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #324 on:** May 18, 2010, 03:16:38 pm »

Quote from: N-Red on May 18, 2010, 01:59:53 pm

Pretty sure its out today. American games usually get released on tuesday i think, maybe someone here can clear it up.

You are correct on both points.

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #325 on:** May 18, 2010, 05:10:11 pm »

It's getting some ridiculous scores this. After GTA4 and especially with a lot of big hitters this gen, it annoys me to see a game average 10/10 and 98% scores across the board. I know a game can be amazing, but it really takes a special, groundbreaking, once-in-a-generation game to average scores like that; at least IMO. They did it with GTA 4 and look how that turned out. So far, the only game that I've played this gen that I think has deserved the scores it got was Mass Effect 2, but then again I completely avoided any kind of hype that it was getting and wasn't expecting much from it.

Anyway, roll on Friday. I'm not falling for the hype, but I can't wait to play it. It does look amazing.

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #326 on:** May 18, 2010, 05:20:43 pm »

Quote from: Macphisto80 on May 18, 2010, 05:10:11 pm

It's getting some ridiculous scores this. After GTA4 and especially with a lot of big hitters this gen, it annoys me to see a game average 10/10 and 98% scores across the board. I know a game can be amazing, but it really takes a special, groundbreaking, once-in-a-generation game to average scores like that; at least IMO. They did it with GTA 4 and look how that turned out. So far, the only game that I've played this gen that I think has deserved the scores it got was Mass Effect 2, but then again I completely avoided any kind of hype that it was getting and wasn't expecting much from it.

Anyway, roll on Friday. I'm not falling for the hype, but I can't wait to play it. It does look amazing.

Somewhat agree and i get where you're coming from. But the precedent has been set with games like GTA and MGS. So if they were to give Red Dead smaller scores people will say it isn't is good as any of them. Whereas this game is much much better than GTA imo.

Anyway, anyone any good at the five finger fillet? I fucking suck. Love the poker though.

AdY · « **Reply #327 on:** May 18, 2010, 05:29:14 pm »

Quote from: Macphisto80 on May 18, 2010, 05:10:11 pm

It's getting some ridiculous scores this. After GTA4 and especially with a lot of big hitters this gen, it annoys me to see a game average 10/10 and 98% scores across the board. I know a game can be amazing, but it really takes a special, groundbreaking, once-in-a-generation game to average scores like that; at least IMO. They did it with GTA 4 and look how that turned out. So far, the only game that I've played this gen that I think has deserved the scores it got was Mass Effect 2, but then again I completely avoided any kind of hype that it was getting and wasn't expecting much from it.

Anyway, roll on Friday. I'm not falling for the hype, but I can't wait to play it. It does look amazing.

I think GTA was still an amazing game, it's just it was the game everyone was waiting for and the hype was incredible. It was the only game I've ever really been excited about since I was kid so I think some people felt a bit disappointed purely because of that. It was still an extremely good game and I really enjoyed it!

DanFromMars · « **Reply #328 on:** May 18, 2010, 05:45:50 pm »

thanks for the code guys, I also used my sisters' staff clubcard which gave me an additional 10% staff discount so only ended up paying £26 squid

Aristotle · « **Reply #329 on:** May 18, 2010, 05:59:30 pm »

Quote from: Macphisto80 on May 18, 2010, 05:10:11 pm

It's getting some ridiculous scores this. After GTA4 and especially with a lot of big hitters this gen, it annoys me to see a game average 10/10 and 98% scores across the board. I know a game can be amazing, but it really takes a special, groundbreaking, once-in-a-generation game to average scores like that; at least IMO. They did it with GTA 4 and look how that turned out. So far, the only game that I've played this gen that I think has deserved the scores it got was Mass Effect 2, but then again I completely avoided any kind of hype that it was getting and wasn't expecting much from it.

Anyway, roll on Friday. I'm not falling for the hype, but I can't wait to play it. It does look amazing.

The thing is though that there are so many games that are just absurdly good. I mean just GoW III for example. I was slightly dissapointed with it, yet I could without a shadow of a doubt give it a 9,5 (I & II being perfect 10). I agree though that there are games getting too high a score, but that's only because 10 (or 100 depends on who scores) is as high as you can go. The first Uncharted game was a clear example of this, it got what a 9,8 average rating? Then the second game comes and, imo anyway, blows it out of the water. It was at the time clearly a game worthy of a 10 (and arguably still is). The second one got almost entirely 10 in every single review. So when number 3 comes out, no matter how groundbreakingly awesome it is, it can't top the first one in ratings. So in summary I agree. Ratings by numbers don't work anyome. Groundbreaking stuff is just too hard to come by, I mean the only thing left to do in video games is making an Avatar-ish game where you do everything yourself in a virtual reality room. I recommend starting using games as a reference instead. So let's say RDR is San Andreas good, instead of a 9,5 etc. etc.

rowan_d · « **Reply #330 on:** May 18, 2010, 06:12:33 pm »

Quote from: Macphisto80 on May 18, 2010, 05:10:11 pm

It's getting some ridiculous scores this. After GTA4 and especially with a lot of big hitters this gen, it annoys me to see a game average 10/10 and 98% scores across the board. I know a game can be amazing, but it really takes a special, groundbreaking, once-in-a-generation game to average scores like that; at least IMO. They did it with GTA 4 and look how that turned out. So far, the only game that I've played this gen that I think has deserved the scores it got was Mass Effect 2, but then again I completely avoided any kind of hype that it was getting and wasn't expecting much from it.

Anyway, roll on Friday. I'm not falling for the hype, but I can't wait to play it. It does look amazing.

I think Uncharted 2 fully deserved its scores, as did Batman Arkham Asylum.

Can't wait for the weekend.

rowan_d · « **Reply #331 on:** May 18, 2010, 06:14:22 pm »

Quote from: Aristotle on May 18, 2010, 05:59:30 pm

The first Uncharted game was a clear example of this, it got what a 9,8 average rating?

Around 8.8 average I think

Aristotle · « **Reply #332 on:** May 18, 2010, 06:20:47 pm »

Quote from: rowan_d on May 18, 2010, 06:14:22 pm

Around 8.8 average I think

OK granted, but it won nearly every award that was out there.

Zizou · « **Reply #333 on:** May 18, 2010, 07:50:23 pm »

Think you boys need to relax and enjoy the game. Overanalysing these things tends to make them feel worse than they are.

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #334 on:** May 18, 2010, 08:29:16 pm »

Quote from: AdY on May 18, 2010, 05:29:14 pm

I think GTA was still an amazing game, it's just it was the game everyone was waiting for and the hype was incredible. It was the only game I've ever really been excited about since I was kid so I think some people felt a bit disappointed purely because of that. It was still an extremely good game and I really enjoyed it!

I agree. GTA4 is a fantastic game, but I now get the sense that it was more of a vehicle for the technology driving it than anything else. The RAGE engine is by far the most impressive piece of tech being used in games today IMO. It just has so much room to expand on, which I think RDR is doing, and with GTA5, we should see it flexing what it's really capable of. It's one of those things that actually looks as impressive as it feels to play. The Euphoria mixed with Havok really gives a solid and realistic look and feel to objects that other engines out there can't get close to. It still impresses me when I see Niko get thrown from a car at high speed and the way he'll flip and tumble down a road.

rowan_d · « **Reply #335 on:** May 18, 2010, 08:36:51 pm »

Quote from: Macphisto80 on May 18, 2010, 08:29:16 pm

I agree. GTA4 is a fantastic game, but I now get the sense that it was more of a vehicle for the technology driving it than anything else. The RAGE engine is by far the most impressive piece of tech being used in games today IMO. It just has so much room to expand on, which I think RDR is doing, and with GTA5, we should see it flexing what it's really capable of. It's one of those things that actually looks as impressive as it feels to play. The Euphoria mixed with Havok really gives a solid and realistic look and feel to objects that other engines out there can't get close to. It still impresses me when I see Niko get thrown from a car at high speed and the way he'll flip and tumble down a road.

Crytek? (Admittedly its only used by 2 or 3 games, but still.)
The Unreal Engine is great when its heavily modified, rather than the lazy shite we saw for a couple of years after Gears of War.
Sony Santa Monica (GoW3) and Naughty Dog (Uncharted) have both created terrific engines, but they seem reluctant to share their tech with other developers unforunately.

The RAGE engine isn;t all that compared to the 4 above in my opinion. Euphoria however, is by far the best physics and reaction tech in the business

DanFromMars · « **Reply #336 on:** May 18, 2010, 08:54:17 pm »

Says on wiki that the game only runs in 640 on ps3 while has 720p mode on the xbox, is this true?

rowan_d · « **Reply #337 on:** May 18, 2010, 09:08:14 pm »

Yes, but apparently the difference to the naked eye is negligable. Same as Alan Wake, technically its sub-HD, but you'd have to be some kind of Rain Man to notice it without pixel-counting technology and the like

redmachine · « **Reply #338 on:** May 18, 2010, 09:23:01 pm »

Ordered from Tesco, wonder if it will turn up Friday or they keep us waiting?!

N-Red · « **Reply #339 on:** May 18, 2010, 09:30:19 pm »

Quote from: rowan_d on May 18, 2010, 09:08:14 pm

Yes, but apparently the difference to the naked eye is negligable. Same as Alan Wake, technically its sub-HD, but you'd have to be some kind of Rain Man to notice it without pixel-counting technology and the like

Im pretty sure it was all bullshit from a forum poster on NeoGaf, and wiki is hardly reliable to be fair. I've also not seen anything in reviews yet to suggest the PS3 version is sub-HD. Either way im not to bothered as you can't tell much of a difference.

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #340 on:** May 18, 2010, 10:27:50 pm »

The PS3 version says 720 on the back of the box. Are Rockstar liars?

rowan_d · « **Reply #341 on:** May 18, 2010, 11:23:54 pm »

Quote from: N-Red on May 18, 2010, 09:30:19 pm

Im pretty sure it was all bullshit from a forum poster on NeoGaf, and wiki is hardly reliable to be fair. I've also not seen anything in reviews yet to suggest the PS3 version is sub-HD. Either way im not to bothered as you can't tell much of a difference.

I thought the consensus on there was that the poster was reliable and worked for Digital Foundry

Disintegration · « **Reply #342 on:** May 18, 2010, 11:35:35 pm »

Quote from: King Richard IV on May 18, 2010, 10:27:50 pm

The PS3 version says 720 on the back of the box. Are Rockstar liars?

It means that it displays at 720p, not that 720p is necessarily the native resolution. For instance, a DVD upscaling to 720p would be displaying at that resolution but natively its lower, and obviously you can tell the difference when compared to Blu-Ray. GTA IV on PS3 is noticeably blurrier than its 360 counterpart (it's native resolution is 640p or thereabouts), but unless it's a real botch job in ways that go beyond the resolution (see: Ghostbusters or Bayonetta PS3) you'll be fine.

Red_Isle_Chap · « **Reply #343 on:** May 19, 2010, 12:33:02 am »

Quote from: Macphisto80 on May 18, 2010, 08:29:16 pm

I agree. GTA4 is a fantastic game, but I now get the sense that it was more of a vehicle for the technology driving it than anything else. The RAGE engine is by far the most impressive piece of tech being used in games today IMO. It just has so much room to expand on, which I think RDR is doing, and with GTA5, we should see it flexing what it's really capable of. It's one of those things that actually looks as impressive as it feels to play. The Euphoria mixed with Havok really gives a solid and realistic look and feel to objects that other engines out there can't get close to. It still impresses me when I see Niko get thrown from a car at high speed and the way he'll flip and tumble down a road.

See, i'd agree with that. I think GTA4 deserves all the high scores but only because of the add on of the ballad of gay tony. The reason (i think) that a lot of people don't like the game as much as san andreas was because it was far more "gritty and realistic" than the previous one. Unfortunatly for rockstar not many of us wanted that we wanted more rediculous shit like stealing jetpacks from area 51 and then using them to steal alien goo from an army train. Not just go shoot someone in the face. TBOGT took us back a bit and was far, far more enjoyable than the actual GTA4. Helicopter gunships, insane missions with swat tanks, other characters like Yusef who were immensly more entertaining than all the other chars in the origional GTA4. Plus they fucked up a bit with the friends on the phone stuff, which i have to say irritated the shit out of me and they fixed it for the add-ons.

Now Red dead might be getting the massive scores, but again it could deserve it just for something other than the single player. Looks to me like they've gone all out to do the multiplayer on it and if it's done right it'll be the most fun online (i reckon) and it's because of the online stuff that i'm so excited about it and i can honestly say i've never ever been looking forward to any game online before

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #344 on:** May 19, 2010, 03:21:05 am »

Not really spoilerish, but just in case...

Spoiler

I've only played a couple of hours, and apart from the initial story missions, I haven't touched the story, instead doing a few side things, like a bounty, showdown, killing a ton of animals, skinning a horse I rode to death, helping a stranger, etc etc. So far I'm loving it.

I did get the deadeye costume with my pre-order, but like the other costumes you have to complete 6 tasks to unlock it, so not big advantage, unless you specifically go out to get them.

I find myself simply looking around at the scenery.

The only thing I'm having a problem with is the targetting. Sometimes the little white dot is hard to see against the background, although I've not checked if you can change the colour, but maybe it's more realistic like that?

The close up gunshots are brilliant

Two questions, though.

The five finger (?) game is always closed in Armadillo, night and day. Is it randomly open?

I saved the treasure hunter, and it said grab the map. The hunter ran off, but I could find no map anywhere near his cart. Any ideas? Too late now, I suppose, I was just wondering where the thing was.

[close]

FiSh77 · « **Reply #345 on:** May 19, 2010, 05:19:16 am »

Quote from: King Richard IV on May 19, 2010, 03:21:05 am

Not really spoilerish, but just in case...

Spoiler
I've only played a couple of hours, and apart from the initial story missions, I haven't touched the story, instead doing a few side things, like a bounty, showdown, killing a ton of animals, skinning a horse I rode to death, helping a stranger, etc etc. So far I'm loving it.

I did get the deadeye costume with my pre-order, but like the other costumes you have to complete 6 tasks to unlock it, so not big advantage, unless you specifically go out to get them.

I find myself simply looking around at the scenery.

The only thing I'm having a problem with is the targetting. Sometimes the little white dot is hard to see against the background, although I've not checked if you can change the colour, but maybe it's more realistic like that?

The close up gunshots are brilliant

Two questions, though.

The five finger (?) game is always closed in Armadillo, night and day. Is it randomly open?

I saved the treasure hunter, and it said grab the map. The hunter ran off, but I could find no map anywhere near his cart. Any ideas? Too late now, I suppose, I was just wondering where the thing was.

[close]

Spoiler

check your inventory to see if it's in there

[close]

scottishkop · « **Reply #346 on:** May 19, 2010, 09:15:48 am »

Rumours of it being banned in the UAE.

Gutted

iSmiff · « **Reply #347 on:** May 19, 2010, 11:43:11 am »

Tesco better get this thing posted today or tomorrow as I require it for Friday.

Waterloo Phil · « **Reply #348 on:** May 19, 2010, 12:58:17 pm »

Quote from: iSmiff on May 19, 2010, 11:43:11 am

Tesco better get this thing posted today or tomorrow as I require it for Friday.

Aint ordered mine yet , reckon i should pre prder it today or just pick one up on Friday

Ultimate Bromance · « **Reply #349 on:** May 19, 2010, 01:19:07 pm »

Haven't payed too much attention to this since I loaned my power cable thing for the 360 to a mate a few months back, only occurred to me last night that I have a PS3 upstairs which I only use for watching dvds before nodding off to bed.

Be definitely picking this up in a couple days when it lands in Aus

Pow pow!

rowan_d · « **Reply #350 on:** May 19, 2010, 03:20:41 pm »

Been despatched from Tescos

walshys_mullet · « **Reply #351 on:** May 19, 2010, 04:38:17 pm »

Is there any trade in deals at Game for this? If so what games?

AdY · « **Reply #352 on:** May 19, 2010, 04:50:28 pm »

Quote from: rowan_d on May 19, 2010, 03:20:41 pm

Been despatched from Tescos

mine is still awaiting despatch

FiSh77 · « **Reply #353 on:** May 19, 2010, 04:56:37 pm »

pre ordered mine from shopto.net, they're not despaching it until tomorrow for some reason

all other games i've pre ordered from them have arrived a day or 2 early

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #354 on:** May 19, 2010, 06:11:41 pm »

Quote from: FiSh77 on May 19, 2010, 05:19:16 am

Spoiler
check your inventory to see if it's in there
[close]

Wasn't in there

Rojo O Muerto · « **Reply #355 on:** May 19, 2010, 06:27:16 pm »

Hurry up and dispatch it, you Bill Kenwright wankers!

Rusty Oysterburger · « **Reply #356 on:** May 19, 2010, 07:44:43 pm »

Quote from: walshys_mullet on May 19, 2010, 04:38:17 pm

Is there any trade in deals at Game for this? If so what games?

Yeah I was wondering this too, I'm skint at the moment so I was going to trade a load of my old games in.

Paul-LFC · « **Reply #357 on:** May 19, 2010, 08:01:42 pm »

Ordered mine from Shopto too, they've charged my account, bit annoying they aren't despatching it until tomorrow. Didn't they say they don't charge until despatch?

I'm not too bothered, just annoyed that other places are sending out their copies yet Shopto are holding theirs back.

Fairytale of 2005 · « **Reply #358 on:** May 19, 2010, 10:54:18 pm »

Quote from: AdY on May 19, 2010, 04:50:28 pm

mine is still awaiting despatch

Mine too..... Sort it out fuckers!

Fairytale of 2005 · « **Reply #359 on:** May 19, 2010, 10:55:49 pm »

Quote from: walshys_mullet on May 19, 2010, 04:38:17 pm

Is there any trade in deals at Game for this? If so what games?

Think I saw an offer for half price, with 4 possible trade ins. Can't remember what they were for sure, but I think BC2 and Final Fantasy were 2 of them.