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1950 FA Cup Final Team
« on: February 27, 2009, 05:45:54 am »
A mate of mine bought me a copy of 'Picture Post' from April 1950 at a recent auction.

I thought I'd scan the pics of the Liverpool team for those of us under the age of 70 who've never seen them.... :P

So here we go:

Two pics of Cyril Sidlow (including the cover pic):





Phil Taylor (Captain)



Laurie Hughes



Eddie Spicer and Ray Lambert



Bob Paisley (who sadly didn't get picked for the Final)



Bill Jones (on the right, not as it says in the caption, on the left)



Kevin Baron



Albert Stubbins



Billy Liddell



Jimmy Payne and Willie Fagan



We lost 2 nil to the Arsenal that year on our first ever visit to Wembley, but we didn't have too bad a record from 1965 on...

« Last Edit: February 27, 2009, 10:59:27 am by Redsnappa »

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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2009, 06:04:20 am »
The first two photos are superb. Cyril Sidlow a fraction of a second from getting clattered in both.
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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2009, 09:09:33 am »
Wow!

I've only seen two of those before. The corner of the KOP and main stand (where the boys pen was in the sixties) on the Bill Jones picture is breathtaking  (rising up through the mist).

Thanks for posting that.

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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2009, 10:24:01 am »
Wow!

I've only seen two of those before. The corner of the KOP and main stand (where the boys pen was in the sixties) on the Bill Jones picture is breathtaking  (rising up through the mist).

Thanks for posting that.
That raises a point Lefty...

We're at home and Bill Jones (if the caption has it right) is wearing white....so why are we in our Away kit in a Home game?

 ???

EDIT: I think the caption's wrong. The player on the right looks like Laurie Hughes to me, so we ARE in Red and that's not Bill Jones at all, unless he was playing for someone else (Charlton?) at the time....
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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2009, 10:27:05 am »
Thanks for posting those pictures !
It's really hard to find some good pictures from our black and white past.

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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2009, 10:44:40 am »
That raises a point Lefty...

We're at home and Bill Jones (if the caption has it right) is wearing white....so why are we in our Away kit in a Home game?

 ???

EDIT: I think the caption's wrong. The player on the right looks like Laurie Hughes to me, so we ARE in Red and that's not Bill Jones at all, unless he was playing for someone else (Charlton?) at the time....

think Jones would be the one on the right in the home kit?

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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2009, 10:57:54 am »
think Jones would be the one on the right in the home kit?

Bill Jones


Laurie Hughes


Nice one Phil, thats that sorted then. Good man, I'll edit the pic.

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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2009, 12:31:32 pm »
That raises a point Lefty...

We're at home and Bill Jones (if the caption has it right) is wearing white....so why are we in our Away kit in a Home game?

 ???

I think Jones is on the right and the caption is wrong

EDIT: I think the caption's wrong. The player on the right looks like Laurie Hughes to me, so we ARE in Red and that's not Bill Jones at all, unless he was playing for someone else (Charlton?) at the time....

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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2009, 01:03:57 pm »
Thanks for putting those pics up. There are not many places to see those players now.

The 1950 FAC Final was my first time of seeing the Reds in action.
Not at Wembley but on a 12" black and white TV at a place in Essex whilst my Dad and Uncle went to the game after we travelled down on the Crosville overnight.

I was a nipper and went to family friends who were all southerners and Arsenal fans to boot. At the end they were all cheering, so I went out the back door into the garden with the biggest lump in my throat I've ever had even now.

They quickly realised my pain and brought me back in to treat me to lemonade, cakes and sympathy.  :)

I remember that flat cap Sidlow had on which they all wore. They lasted well into the fifties, not sure when the baseball type arrived on the scene.

The 2001 FAC Final was sweet revenge although at one stage I feared my young grand-son at my side was going to endure a similar fate.


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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2009, 01:06:53 pm »
I love these pictures.

Black and white pictures seem to capture the old Anfield the way it seemed to be when I was a kid.

Like a magical Shangri-la that was always covered in a cloak of mist. You could feel that warm dampness all around as you gazed awestruck through the railings of the pen before you were rudely brought back to reality by the disappearance off your sherbet lemons from the pocket of your duffel coat.   

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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2009, 01:08:43 pm »
Thanks for putting those pics up. There are not many places to see those players now.

The 1950 FAC Final was my first time of seeing the Reds in action.
Not at Wembley but on a 12" black and white TV at a place in Essex whilst my Dad and Uncle went to the game after we travelled down on the Crosville overnight.

I was a nipper and went to family friends who were all southerners and Arsenal fans to boot. At the end they were all cheering, so I went out the back door into the garden with the biggest lump in my throat I've ever had even now.

They quickly realised my pain and brought me back in to treat me to lemonade, cakes and sympathy.  :)

I remember that flat cap Sidlow had on which they all wore. They lasted well into the fifties, not sure when the baseball type arrived on the scene.

The 2001 FAC Final was sweet revenge although at one stage I feared my young grand-son at my side was going to endure a similar fate.



Must have been one of the first cup finals on telly.

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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2009, 01:15:02 pm »
Must have been one of the first cup finals on telly.

Yes I hadn't thought about when they started showing them.

We didn't have a telly for some years later but I did see the Matthews final on a neighbours 12" set.

I'll do some searching to see if it was the first to be shown.

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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2009, 01:17:23 pm »
The 1938 F.A. Cup Final between Preston North End and Huddersfield Town was the first to be transmitted live on BBC Television
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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2009, 01:17:44 pm »
that first one has to be a free kick
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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2009, 01:25:35 pm »
that first one has to be a free kick

Not in them days.
It was permanent open season on keepers.

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« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2009, 01:28:52 pm »

You were lucky you didn't get your sweets removed as you went up the steps!



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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2009, 01:32:44 pm »
The 1938 F.A. Cup Final between Preston North End and Huddersfield Town was the first to be transmitted live on BBC Television

So that makes this the seventh?

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« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2009, 01:34:52 pm »
So that makes this the seventh?

6th I think. No FA Cup between 1939-40 and 1944-45
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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2011, 09:15:47 pm »
Sorry to bump such an old topic but found this to be the most relevant.  Found this (and a whole load of other papers) in the recycling bins in work the other week, couldn't bare to see it go to waste so I'm scanning in the pages for sentimental reasons and thought I'd share them with you :)  That pic is a small version but the full version I've uploaded to photobucket.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/stuey_182/Sport%201950%20FA%20Cup%20Final/img004.jpg

I'll get onto the rest of the pages as soon as I can, I just have a 1500 word essay to handwrite before I do.  Hope you enjoy!  The inner contents are pretty good :)
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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2011, 10:25:54 pm »
Well done lads!  Dear aul Laurie Hughes passed away just recently R.I.P. Nice to see them in their pomp.
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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2011, 11:39:16 pm »
Sorry to bump such an old topic but found this to be the most relevant.  Found this (and a whole load of other papers) in the recycling bins in work the other week, couldn't bare to see it go to waste so I'm scanning in the pages for sentimental reasons and thought I'd share them with you :)  That pic is a small version but the full version I've uploaded to photobucket.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/stuey_182/Sport%201950%20FA%20Cup%20Final/img004.jpg

I'll get onto the rest of the pages as soon as I can, I just have a 1500 word essay to handwrite before I do.  Hope you enjoy!  The inner contents are pretty good :)

Thanks for salvaging them and uploading here!
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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2011, 08:05:18 am »
That raises a point Lefty...

We're at home and Bill Jones (if the caption has it right) is wearing white....so why are we in our Away kit in a Home game?

 ???

EDIT: I think the caption's wrong. The player on the right looks like Laurie Hughes to me, so we ARE in Red and that's not Bill Jones at all, unless he was playing for someone else (Charlton?) at the time....

In those days in the FA cup if there was a colour clash then the home team changed colours. I went to Anfield for an FA cup game against Accrington Stanley and was quite surprised to see our team in Old Gold shirts and white shorts
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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2011, 09:20:31 am »
Bob Paisley should never have been left out of the cup final team after scoring against Everton in the semi final.

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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2011, 09:45:28 am »
Absolutely superb,

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« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2011, 05:42:07 pm »
Not in them days.
It was permanent open season on keepers.

  More like the fact that keepers were allowed to be challenged in those days,much better than it is now when you're penalised for going anywhere near them.
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« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2011, 07:47:47 pm »
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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2011, 03:13:43 pm »
Great pics.

Sadly, I think Phil Taylor and Jimmy Payne are the only surviving players.

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« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2011, 03:36:56 pm »
Great pics.

Sadly, I think Phil Taylor and Jimmy Payne are the only surviving players.


That sounds correct. Phil Taylor was 94 in September. I am pretty sure he is in a residential nursing-home.

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« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2011, 10:44:01 am »
A fuckin TRAGEDY in footballing terms.......

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« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2011, 10:52:35 am »
A fuckin TRAGEDY in footballing terms.......

Arsenal Kicked the shite out of Billy Liddell for the entire 90 minutes


I know mate, my dad was furious when he got home from the game.
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« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2011, 11:54:00 pm »
Love threads like this, it brings back memories and stories that my dad used to tell us. Wished I'd have listened to him even more.

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« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2011, 12:06:36 am »
Great job Redsnappa. The photos evoke a time and place long gone. Those packed terraces when football was truly the people's game - a sort massive working-class secret that only hit the national consciousness on FA Cup Final day. 
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« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2012, 06:41:27 pm »
Well done lads!  Dear aul Laurie Hughes passed away just recently R.I.P. Nice to see them in their pomp.

Laurie was a great centre half, when he retired from football he opened a  newsagents and sweet shop in Tuebrook
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« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2012, 07:06:55 pm »
Bob Paisley should never have been left out of the cup final team after scoring against Everton in the semi final.

There were some really tough desicions taken in those days, only eleven players went onto the pitch, there was always the twealth man (1st reserve) but he could only play if a team member fell ill or hurt himself BEFORE the team sheets were handed to the referee.
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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #35 on: November 3, 2012, 11:19:04 am »
In the Liverpool team was Kevin Baron, whose brother Gerard tragically died at Hillsborough.

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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #36 on: November 3, 2012, 08:02:10 pm »
In the Liverpool team was Kevin Baron, whose brother Gerard tragically died at Hillsborough.

Never knew that. :(

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« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2012, 02:28:35 am »
Laurie was a great centre half, when he retired from football he opened a  newsagents and sweet shop in Tuebrook
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« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2012, 08:47:37 am »
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Re: 1950 FA Cup Final Team
« Reply #39 on: December 27, 2012, 09:23:35 pm »
In the Liverpool team was Kevin Baron, whose brother Gerard tragically died at Hillsborough.

Kevin Baron was only 44 when he died in 1971. :o :'(