Topic: Benitez fumes after draw at Wigan

[Fanxxxxtastic]

The Press are loving it ...........c*nts

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1131248/Crazy-Rafa-blames-world-admits-I-dont-know-happening-Liverpool-anymore.html?ITO=1490

Of course they will love it.

But you just have to grin and bare it. And hope the team rams it back down their throats like in 2005.

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I think he's pissed off the smaller teams aren't playing to suit our style. "Will you guys stop clearing the ball and let us attack you our way FFS!!!"

[KTS]

I haven't got a clue about what he's on about. But there are only 3 things on the pitch. LFC, the ref and the opponents.

[shelovesyou]

Give them Ammo and well you know the rest.

oh i know the score like - frustrated thats all

[LiamG]

It's at the players, the last time i saw Rafa fuming that much was when we lost against Crystal palace in his 1st season

[shelovesyou]

I haven't got a clue about what he's on about. But there are only 3 things on the pitch. LFC, the ref and the opponents.

and the ball of course 

[LFCfan4Life]

Is he on about the referee's by any chance ? ? ?

'Alex Ferguson has been here for 22 years and you can see what it means when you have been here for so long. The past three games have something in common I don’t like.’

mmm i can think of a pen today given against which to be fair looking at replays i fucking soft but justifiable

the one not given against everton when torres was barged into

but i dont remember the third thing in the other everton game

[KTS]

It's at the players, the last time i saw Rafa fuming that much was when we lost against Crystal palace in his 1st season

If its at the players then he must take the responsbility - surely ?

[desikasanova]

I'm sure Rick Parry is probably involved.

As much as I hate the guy, let's not jump to conclusions?

[steelersmark]

I still can't get my head round Gerrard coming off. Just stunning.

[Red_Rich]

The Press are loving it ...........c*nts

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1131248/Crazy-Rafa-blames-world-admits-I-dont-know-happening-Liverpool-anymore.html?ITO=1490

What's this quote all about?

'Alex Ferguson has been here for 22 years and you can see what it means when you have been here for so long. The past three games have something in common I don’t like.’


He's coming across as obsessed, I'm afraid to say.  Get a grip Rafa!

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He's clearly hinting that ref decisions were against us due to Fergie's influence.

[LiamG]

If its at the players then he must take the responsbility - surely ?

He is at fault for hauling Gerrard off, but the team he put out tonight should of beaten wigan and shouldnt of conceded a stupid penalty! 3 games 3 stupid goals!

[4pool]

Personally...

Rafa using the term "crazy" was because the play was to open.

We didn't control the play or control the ball and look for openings. We "rushed" our play as much as Wigan did coming at us.

It was "crazy", no?

[LFCfan4Life]

What's this quote all about?

'Alex Ferguson has been here for 22 years and you can see what it means when you have been here for so long. The past three games have something in common I don’t like.’


He's coming across as obsessed, I'm afraid to say.  Get a grip Rafa!

maybe he has been reading what has been said on these forums for the past 5 years lol

RAWKites are just as obsessed with the whiskey nose twat and conspiracy theories

[LFC when it suits]

I am starting to think Rafa is losing the plot.

[Fordy]

It's at the players, the last time i saw Rafa fuming that much was when we lost against Crystal palace in his 1st season

Think the players, the manager, Rick Parry and the fucking owners need to sit down after Sundays game win, lose or draw and sort everything fucking out one way or another because between the lot of them they are fucking up what was a great start to the season and it seems that something is going to give soon.

no contracts, control, transfers, no money, ranting its all not fucking good.

[LiamG]

its got nothing to do with parry or the owners, Rafa knows what his job is and thats to win games!

[shelovesyou]

" no we're never gonna survive unless we get a little Crazy "

[KTS]

its got nothing to do with parry or the owners, Rafa knows what his job is and thats to win games!

But it isn't helping.

[Gigantic Lamb]

Think the players, the manager, Rick Parry and the fucking owners need to sit down after Sundays game win, lose or draw and sort everything fucking out one way or another because between the lot of them they are fucking up what was a great start to the season and it seems that something is going to give soon.

no contracts, control, transfers, no money, ranting its all not fucking good.

Good post but Rafa will probably pull another strop

[buzzing]

Is he on about the referee's by any chance ? ? ?

Probably. That or the physical nature of wigans play

[jackfrancis]

The pen wasn't soft.. it was outright f"cking outrageous.  Lucas barely stuck his leg out and that twat was looking for it the whole way, wasn't even attempting to play the ball or do anything, just waiting for the slightest of contact.  He should've been red carded for simulation end of.  That's what Rafa is talking about, crazy decisions like this which make zero sense.

[Fordy]

Rafa needs to drop the Fergie thing now and get a grip seriously.

[b_joseph]

" no we're never gonna survive unless we get a little Crazy "

Tune....*go's to youtube to watch video*

[buzzing]

I still can't get my head round Gerrard coming off. Just stunning.

He was shite. But Gerrard is one of the best players in the world and in a flash can win a game, so shouldn't be taken off unless injured

[kevopool]

Rafa has lost the plot Folks! after his Fergie rant we've done absolutely nothing, 16points out of a possible 30 is hardly title challenging form. His team selections have been very odd indeed and as far as Keane goes, the fella's not even getting the chance to fit in. These guys are athletes do we really need a squad rotation policy? I think not! Your best team every game and pull players off when your 2 or 3 nil up if they need a rest

[Terry de Niro]

" no we're never gonna survive unless we get a little Crazy "

[Gigantic Lamb]

after his Fergie rant we've done absolutely nothing

And there my friend lies the problem

[Eeyore]

Think the players, the manager, Rick Parry and the fucking owners need to sit down after Sundays game win, lose or draw and sort everything fucking out one way or another because between the lot of them they are fucking up what was a great start to the season and it seems that something is going to give soon.

no contracts, control, transfers, no money, ranting its all not fucking good.

There will be a meeting but the only players present will be 2 senior players.

They will be the same 2 senior players Rafa mentioned having a meeting with in his pre-match press conference.

[LFCfan4Life]

The pen wasn't soft.. it was outright f"cking outrageous.  Lucas barely stuck his leg out and that twat was looking for it the whole way, wasn't even attempting to play the ball or do anything, just waiting for the slightest of contact.  He should've been red carded for simulation end of.  That's what Rafa is talking about, crazy decisions like this which make zero sense.

watching MOTD i though that the tackle was the slightest of touches and the commentator said the same

'there it is the slightest of touches and koumas is down' but at the end of the day its the opposite side of the linesmen and it the ref saw some contact and a player go down so soft pen it is but a fair one nothing else the ref could do

if it was the other side and the lino had to make the decision it might just have gone our way - small margins very small look at that torres header which clipped the inside of the post but flew straight back out

[LFC when it suits]

The pen wasn't soft.. it was outright f"cking outrageous.  Lucas barely stuck his leg out and that twat was looking for it the whole way, wasn't even attempting to play the ball or do anything, just waiting for the slightest of contact.  He should've been red carded for simulation end of.  That's what Rafa is talking about, crazy decisions like this which make zero sense.

Take off of the red tinted specs. It was a stonewall pen.

[Fordy]

The pen wasn't soft.. it was outright f"cking outrageous.  Lucas barely stuck his leg out and that twat was looking for it the whole way, wasn't even attempting to play the ball or do anything, just waiting for the slightest of contact.  He should've been red carded for simulation end of.  That's what Rafa is talking about, crazy decisions like this which make zero sense.

No Lucas should of been red carded for making such a school boy tackle. It was like a forwards tackle.

[LiamG]

It was a soft pen but still a pen, We would of taken it, But we shouldnt be conceding stupid free kicks and pens when we are 1-0 up!


some lad in the pub tonight said Tommo for next manager............

[kevopool]

should lucas even be in the team if Alonso's fit/ He's not good enough IMO

[Liverbird 2010]

Yer well what can you expect playing a defensive formation  home and away, BTW Rafa with all the money you have been given you have bought absloute shite. apart from Torres, Reina, Alonso, Mascherano.

United attack, attack attack, we pass it back, back, back  and have 80 % possession so we are obviously doing things right arnt we. Accept we dont score any goals with this possession football and the other team get a set pieace and look like scoring more than we do.

Cant believe tonight just cant believe it we have a great team its just that they arnt aloud to express themselves what a shame hey, what could have been.

Just think we have players and we could have won the leagues but our manager has more of a guard on for draws that he does wins.

I am gutted, and If he goes now i for one will not miss him boring possesion football I have defended him long enough and his elephant behind him Duck Kite but enough is enough we deserve more than that shite on show.

After all the money spent Bennynoon and Leiva Wow just wow.

[El Campeador]

It's simple, no?

The players are NOT executing in the last 3rd.

Because we are wastefull in the final third.

Not that you don't have a point, but we've also been more than a tad unlucky in the final third. Gerrard hits the post against Stoke with minutes to go, and we draw. At about the same point in their game against Bolton, United have two defenders roll over each other to present Tevez with the ball at his feet, and Berbatov bags 3 points.

Football is an insanely cruel sport sometimes.

[buttersstotch]

I hardly think Rafa has lost the plot. He's just understandably annoyed that we threw away ANOTHER 2 points. Now OK he made some ludacris decisions, but even then, on paper we had enough to beat Wigan. He's just making excuses, it's what managers do. 

But aside from that the last 3 games, it's been our fault. We've given away careless free kicks and penalties, and not defended properly. Simple schoolboy stuff. I'm not sure whether it's just lapses of concentration or what, but it needs to be sorted out as we can't keep going on like this. And by no means are we out of the title race despite what Mancs and the media may say. Fucking hell, there's another 4 months to go yet. If we beat Chelsea on Sunday then everyone will be creaming their pants again looking forward to the match at Old Trafford.

Lucas made a foul. Now, i'm not sure whether he denied a goal scoring oppotunity, but it was still a foul. He's inexperienced, it happens unfortunately.

[fowlerisgod96]

There will be a meeting but the only players present will be 2 senior players.

They will be the same 2 senior players Rafa mentioned having a meeting with in his pre-match press conference.

Ok come on la, what is it you seem to know....

[Barney_Rubble]

Anyone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Gerrard come off when we were still ahead?

And we've got Chelsea on Sunday.