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Liverbird 2010 · « **on:** January 16, 2009, 10:56:37 am »

Liverpool FC exclusive: Rafa Benitez rejects new contract
Jan 16 2009 Tony Barrett, Liverpool Echo

Rafa Benitez 320

RAFA Benitez has rejected the contract offered to him by Liverpool Football Club.

The Spaniard insists he will only agree to the new deal if given more control over football matters - rather than having to answer to a club chief executive.

Benitez, who insists money is not an issue, has informed American owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett of his stand.

Today he said: “"The owners feel that the manager's decisions need to be subject to the chief executive.

“But I know that I am subject to results and to our fans and they are the best judges I will ever have.”

Full story in today's Liverpool Echo.

Full interview - here at 11.30am on liverpoolecho.co.uk

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2009/01/16/liverpool-fc-exclusive-rafa-benitez-rejects-new-contract-100252-22708447/

Cant blame him really.................

c0burn · « **Reply #1 on:** January 16, 2009, 10:57:30 am »

Fucking hell.

watyeonaboot · « **Reply #2 on:** January 16, 2009, 10:57:55 am »

Don't blame him at all.

I think people will read too much into this - I see the whoppers advancing over the hill...

Bennyo · « **Reply #3 on:** January 16, 2009, 10:58:07 am »

I'm fully behind Rafa on this.

Solomon Grundy · « **Reply #4 on:** January 16, 2009, 10:58:28 am »

Quote from: Lyndsey_LFC on January 16, 2009, 10:56:37 am

Liverpool FC exclusive: Rafa Benitez rejects new contract
Jan 16 2009 Tony Barrett, Liverpool Echo

Rafa Benitez 320

RAFA Benitez has rejected the contract offered to him by Liverpool Football Club.

The Spaniard insists he will only agree to the new deal if given more control over football matters - rather than having to answer to a club chief executive.

Benitez, who insists money is not an issue, has informed American owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett of his stand.

Today he said: “"The owners feel that the manager's decisions need to be subject to the chief executive.

“But I know that I am subject to results and to our fans and they are the best judges I will ever have.”

Full story in today's Liverpool Echo.

Full interview - here at 11.30am on liverpoolecho.co.uk

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2009/01/16/liverpool-fc-exclusive-rafa-benitez-rejects-new-contract-100252-22708447/

Cant blame him really.................

Shit........ $:-\$

nandolove · « **Reply #5 on:** January 16, 2009, 10:59:25 am »

Fuck, here we go again.

I love Rafa and his bollocks (does that sound wrong?) for standing up to those pricks.

But I wouldn't want this to turn into us ultimately losing him.

pantbash · « **Reply #6 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:00:07 am »

Nice one Rafa

No point doing a half-arsed job, whilst knobbled behind the scenes.
Just got to hope that the owners see sense and give him these terms.

robbie96 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:00:09 am »

Quote from: watyeonaboot on January 16, 2009, 10:57:55 am

Don't blame him at all.

I think people will read too much into this - I see the whoppers advancing over the hill...

Can we not generate some positive press for once!

macca007 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:01:39 am »

Fair play rafa. Has the clubs interests at heart. More so than the likes of them tits an that more than includes parry

Dr Cornwallis · « **Reply #9 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:02:33 am »

Quote from: Bennyo on January 16, 2009, 10:58:07 am

I'm fully behind Rafa on this.

Same. He knows his football, let him take us forward.

Joe_Singh · « **Reply #10 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:02:50 am »

Fuck the title for another year then.

I would rather secure Rafa than win the title this year.

Alonso_The_Assassin · « **Reply #11 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:03:49 am »

No surprise really. More fucking storms coming it seems...

Solomon Grundy · « **Reply #12 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:04:09 am »

Quote from: robbie96 on January 16, 2009, 11:00:09 am

Can we not generate some positive press for once!

I know we could really do without all this. Too many distractions. I just hope the lads are mentally tough enough to ignore all whats goin on off the field and remain focused on the challenge ahead.

Trousers · « **Reply #13 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:04:34 am »

Does anyone blame him ?

He is told to leave transfers to Parry.

He thinks Parry is a prick.

Hicks said Parry was a prick.

Joke.

MagicB8all · « **Reply #14 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:05:49 am »

It's not unreasonable, he's just saying if I'm judged by results let me be the one picking the players we get

Hazell · « **Reply #15 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:06:43 am »

What a brilliant way to start the weekend.

Solomon Grundy · « **Reply #16 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:07:07 am »

Quote from: Joe_Singh on January 16, 2009, 11:02:50 am

Fuck the title for another year then.

I would rather secure Rafa than win the title this year.

Don't talk nonsense.

KingKolo · « **Reply #17 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:07:58 am »

This is terrible news.

Awful for the team's stability.
Look how bad Everton's form was before Moyes sorted his contract, and look how they turned it around once it was sorted.

This could be the end for Benitez too.
He didn't hang around at Valencia when faced with similar problems, and there's already been a near fatal amount of shit in the press between him and G+H.

Fucking terrible.

StuwieG · « **Reply #18 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:08:05 am »

It's all gonna kick off again.

Hold on to your hats

Cruiser · « **Reply #19 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:08:14 am »

What the fuck...

LFCfan4Life · « **Reply #20 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:08:32 am »

Quote from: Trousers on January 16, 2009, 11:04:34 am

Does anyone blame him ?

He is told to leave transfers to Parry.

He thinks Parry is a prick.

Hicks said Parry was a prick.

Joke.

exactly people moan that it would give Rafa 'too much' power at the club but no ones worry that an idiot like parry has the power at the moment

red_til_i_die · « **Reply #21 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:08:42 am »

Fuck. I can't and don't blame rafa. The idea of Parry getting involved in the transfers was a fucking joke to begin with.

Not many teams in Europe can say that they have a manager who genuinely cares about the club and the fans and we are one of the fortunate few who can.....

I think we need to get vocal on this on Monday. If we were to lose rafa it would set the club back years again.

Redsfan71 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:08:53 am »

Quote from: Joe_Singh on January 16, 2009, 11:02:50 am

Fuck the title for another year then.

I would rather secure Rafa than win the title this year.

Can't agree with you on this. I'd rather secure the title this season because i can't read into the the future and don't know how good a chance we'd have of winn8ing the title in any future season.

I support Rafa and believe he is in a strong position to negotiate the contract that he wants, but he knows that his position remains as strong as it is while his team produces the results that it has this season

Solomon Grundy · « **Reply #23 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:09:20 am »

Quote from: Trousers on January 16, 2009, 11:04:34 am

Does anyone blame him ?

He is told to leave transfers to Parry.

He thinks Parry is a prick.

Hicks said Parry was a prick.

Joke.

The worst thing this club ever did was to appoint Rick Parry as CEO. He is as much a cancer to this club as the two american idiots are.

rossipersempre · « **Reply #24 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:10:33 am »

Hmm, I don't really see the problem here. I agree Rafa should have more control (although the Barry saga this summer was one exception where I'm glad he didn't get his own way), but what bothers me more is for the sake of further peace, why not just give him the contract he wants?

1. Both fuckers are not going to be around much longer whatever the financial climate, the clock is ticking on the July-whatever deadline for the loans, with almost certainly no chance for new investment or restructuring again. So why do they care?

2. Hicks wants Parry out. So by giving Rafa more control and removing a function of the role of Chief Executive, isn't this weakening Parry's position? Unless Gillett is blocking this demand which may well be the case.

What a fucking mess........again

Evo1975 · « **Reply #25 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:11:21 am »

I cant blame him for knockin it back, especially if it means we've got Parry the dealing with our transfers, we'd have two or three very decent players at are club such as Alves, Simao if it wasn't for rick the prick fucking the transfers up.

Co-Co need fuckin off big time and Raffa's making a stand, fair play to him.

Liverbird 2010 · « **Reply #26 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:11:30 am »

Someone said to me last week with his fergie rant, that it was his parting shot, cant help but feel the fella that said it could have been right $:-\$

We have two bastard owners who dont give a fuck about the club, are never near it, a CEO that doesnt k now his arse from his elbow, we are skint, players will be leaving no one coming in.

And Man City on the verge of paying 150 million for 1 player.

Arrrr fuck it.

zimmie'5555 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:11:38 am »

Echo the same sentiments as everybody else, if a manager is to be judged on his results then he needs to have full control over all footballing matters. Can't blame Rafa at all.

Jocko · « **Reply #28 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:11:58 am »

Whoa, Rafa is way wrong here.

This is about basic corporate governance. He should not be involved in any monetary negotiations with players. The business also requires clear checks and balances and seperation of responsibilities.

May be different in Spain but it isn't here.

Rafa is simply wrong on this one.

Fanxxxxtastic · « **Reply #29 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:12:20 am »

Fuck here we go again.

The last thing we need right now but I don't blame him.

I guess the leaks in the press earlier in the week were right.

kingmonkey007 · « **Reply #30 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:12:36 am »

Quote from: red_til_i_die on January 16, 2009, 11:08:42 am

If we were to lose rafa it would set the club back years again.

could be even worse than that!!, one name, Mourinho.

IOMRed · « **Reply #31 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:12:44 am »

If Rafa goes there are some serious implications.

1. Who replaces him and at what cost, new backroom staff etc.

2. Which of Rafa's players will follow and clear off, Torres, Javier, Pepe??

I despair. David Moores you have done much good for this club but the day you sold to G&H may go down in history as the day our club moved in a way that it will never ever fully recover from.

pad-dock · « **Reply #32 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:13:30 am »

Waited years for a serious title challenge and we are doing are best to self distruct.

Why cant this be put aside until after the last game of the season and sort it all out once and for all.

Old Red nose must be Pi***in himself laughin.

rossipersempre · « **Reply #33 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:13:50 am »

Quote from: Mr Rossi on January 16, 2009, 11:09:20 am

The worst thing this club ever did was to appoint Rick Parry as CEO. He is as much a cancer to this club as the two american idiots are.

Nonsense. That's like saying Martin Bormann was as much a monster as Himmler or Hitler.

keithcun · « **Reply #34 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:14:21 am »

Quote from: Geoff_W on January 16, 2009, 11:07:58 am

This is terrible news.

Awful for the team's stability.
Look how bad Everton's form was before Moyes sorted his contract, and look how they turned it around once it was sorted.

This could be the end for Benitez too.
He didn't hang around at Valencia when faced with similar problems, and there's already been a near fatal amount of shit in the press between him and G+H.

Fucking terrible.

Frigging hell, kneejerktastic.

Degs · « **Reply #35 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:14:30 am »

Could have timed his alot better

Ron · « **Reply #36 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:14:37 am »

Quote from: macca007 on January 16, 2009, 11:01:39 am

Fair play rafa. Has the clubs interests at heart. More so than the likes of them tits an that more than includes parry

How can you say that ?
How do you know this ?

red_til_i_die · « **Reply #37 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:15:23 am »

Quote from: Jocko on January 16, 2009, 11:11:58 am

Whoa, Rafa is way wrong here.

This is about basic corporate governance. He should not be involved in any monetary negotiations with players. The business also requires clear checks and balances and seperation of responsibilities.

May be different in Spain but it isn't here.

Rafa is simply wrong on this one.

Your talking shite. If your fishing your doing it in the wrong thread because everyone is going to jump down your throat.

Rafa should be the one in control of transfers. He should be able to go two the muppets and say how much money can i have to buy players. How much money can i give out on contract wages etc etc.
Get the answer and then do the negotiation himself because he knows his piramitors and if he can't land that player then he can talk to his second choice.

IOMRed · « **Reply #38 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:15:32 am »

Quote from: Jocko on January 16, 2009, 11:11:58 am

Whoa, Rafa is way wrong here.

This is about basic corporate governance. He should not be involved in any monetary negotiations with players. The business also requires clear checks and balances and seperation of responsibilities.

May be different in Spain but it isn't here.

Rafa is simply wrong on this one.

You are simply wrong. I am a manager in a different industry to football but if we recruit I get involved with remuneration discussions and I think this is all Rafa wants. As I understand at the moment he has no involvement once he has told Parry who he wants bringing in so if Rick and the Yanks think the price the selling club want is too high the deal is ditched. Sure, have someone working alongside Rafa to finalise everything once its agreed but that is not even close to how it works now.

DangerScouse · « **Reply #39 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:15:49 am »

"At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques".