Author Topic: Google 'Chrome' (Read 53580 times)

timiano · « **Reply #200 on:** April 10, 2010, 10:55:44 pm »

Quote from: John C on April 10, 2010, 09:22:49 pm

Can anyone tell me how to ensure that when I refresh the page in Chrome it keeps me at the point I was rather than going back to the top of the page?
Ta.

I just refreshed this and it stayed where it was supposed to be.

John C · « **Reply #201 on:** April 11, 2010, 12:14:01 am »

Quote from: timiano on April 10, 2010, 10:55:44 pm

I just refreshed this and it stayed where it was supposed to be.

I'm glad your PC works perfect for you, I've trying to correct mine though.

Paul-LFC · « **Reply #202 on:** April 11, 2010, 01:11:34 am »

Quote from: Bob Loblaw on April 10, 2010, 05:16:13 pm

You all must be bad idiots if you're FF is crashing or is slow.

Every other program I use works absolutely fine, including Chrome. So I'm inclined to think it's a problem with Firefox.

Samee · « **Reply #203 on:** April 11, 2010, 02:20:56 am »

Been using it for about half a year now. Prefer it to Firefox and Explorer.

Harry_Wong · « **Reply #204 on:** April 11, 2010, 12:17:00 pm »

Yay, browser wars

stevensr123 · « **Reply #205 on:** April 11, 2010, 12:26:23 pm »

Been using it for about a month now, it has only crashed once and it is far faster than fire fox.

timiano · « **Reply #206 on:** April 11, 2010, 03:33:54 pm »

Quote from: Samee on April 11, 2010, 02:20:56 am

Been using it for about half a year now. Prefer it to Firefox and Explorer.

Anyone who thinks different is a bad idiot. And yes, I did mean the cheeky Apple pun too

wacko · « **Reply #207 on:** April 12, 2010, 05:34:07 pm »

Quote from: myrlas on April 4, 2010, 07:43:46 pm

to those who use the mac version;

Have you tried out http://glimmerblocker.org? It blocs ads.

Unfortunately, it also circumvents Little Snitch, because OS X uses a system-wide proxy rather than application-level settings. If you don't want your software phoning home, you'll have to add the relevant URLs to Glimmerblocker's blacklist.

Zizou · « **Reply #208 on:** April 17, 2010, 06:44:14 pm »

Anyone find that video hangs on Firefox, every 20 seconds or so for a second or two..very annoying.

Mark Walters · « **Reply #209 on:** April 17, 2010, 09:20:35 pm »

Tried the first release of Chrome and it was a dog. Hated it. Been running Opera 10 since Alpha and while the initial release had many issues, 10.52 which I'm on now is fantastically fast on Win7. Might give the latest Chrome a go because I've heard it's even quicker.

Harry_Wong · « **Reply #210 on:** April 18, 2010, 03:17:01 pm »

http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-web-browser.htm
Last Update: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 15:25 — joe.bennett

Pros and Cons of each, links to manufacturer and download; Size and operating systems supported;
A very well informed discussion follows after the review, where users point out some practical issues with each.

A lot of users appear to use one browser normally, but with another in reserve for particularas an option.

It places Firefox (for add-ons) and Iron (for privacy) on 4.5;
Opera, Safari and Chrome on 4.0;

It also looks at a few options I hadn't been aware of:
Kmeleon on 3.5 (slimmed down cousin of Firefox, optimized for Windows);
Avant and Maxathon (shells for adding features to Internet Explorer) on 3.0.

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Quick Selection Guide
Mozilla Firefox 4.5
       Thousands of Add-Ons to enhance the program, very secure
       Pages load quickly, but not as fast as other competing browsers
       http://www.mozilla.org/
       http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
       7.7 MB 3.6 Unrestricted Freeware
       Windows 2000-Vista, OS-X, Various Linux Distros
       Portable version available

       Firefox Extensions: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:1
       Gizmo's IE to Firefox Migration Guide: http://www.techsupportalert.com/firefox.htm
       Changing the Language Pack: http://support.mozilla.com/kb/Changing+the+language+pack

Opera 4.0
       Extremely fast at loading pages, loads of features, web standards compliant
       No add-on capability
       http://www.opera.com/
       http://www.opera.com/download/
       8.9 MB 10.5 Unrestricted Freeware
       Windows 95-Vista, Mac OS 7.5-OS X, Various Linux Distros, OS/2, QNX, Mobiles, and Palm OS 5
       Portable version available
       Many non-English languages are supported through language files, located here:
       http://www.opera.com/download/languagefiles/

Safari 4.0
       Very fast, web standards compliant
       No support for add-ons, heavy memory and system requirements
       http://www.apple.com/safari/
       http://www.apple.com/safari/download/
       27.2 MB 4.0.2 Unrestricted Freeware
       Windows XP,Vista, Mac OS X

Google Chrome 4.0
       Extremely fast, Simple and intuitive interface,
       "Incognito Mode" won't leave traces of browser history,
       capable of creating "Application Shortcuts" to specific pages on the web,
       [add-ons and versions for Mactintosh and Linux are available for beta now.
       Requires an internet connection to install, interface is not customizable.
       http://www.google.com/chrome
       http://www.google.com/chrome
       476 Kb 4.0 Open Source Freeware (includes program code)
       Windows XP-SP2, Vista, (Various Linux Distros and Mac OS X supported for beta version 4.0 now)
       Portable version available

SRWare Iron 4.5
       Contains almost all of the features of Google Chrome without the privacy concerns
       Interface is not customizable, no support for add-ons, no versions for Mactintosh or Linux.
       http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php
       http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_download.php
       8.3 MB 2.0.178.0 Open Source Freeware (includes program code)
       Windows Xp, Vista
       Portable version available

Maxthon 3.0
       Offers expanded functionality of Internet Explorer rendering engine
       Suffers from same vulnerabilities as Internet Explorer
       http://www.maxthon.com/
       http://www.maxthon.com/download.htm
       2.9 MB 2.07 Unrestricted Freeware
       Windows 98-Vista
       Portable version available
       Non-English languages are supported via downloadable language packs.

Avant 3.0
       Offers expanded functionality of Internet Explorer rendering engine
       Suffers from same vulnerabilities as Internet Explorer
       http://www.avantbrowser.com/
       http://www.download.com/Avant-Browser/3000-2356_4-10150342.html
       1.95 MB 11.7 build 12 Unrestricted Freeware
       Windows 95-Vista
       Portable version available
       Non-English languages are supported via downloadable language packs.

Kmeleon 3.5
       Very fast to load, based on same rendering engine as Firefox
       Limited add-ons
       http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/
       http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/download.php
       5.2 MB 1.5.1 Open Source Freeware (includes program code)
       Windows 95-Vista
       Portable version available

stevensr123 · « **Reply #211 on:** April 20, 2010, 04:13:41 am »

so has anyone else had any problems with it yet? some times when I'm browsing it freezes up on certain websites (ebay, rawk when there is lots of flash: the youtube thread) and i have to just browse on fire fox.

also could someone help me, my bookmarks bar keeps on disappearing all of a sudden.

EDIT: fixed the book mark problem.

Niru Red4ever · « **Reply #212 on:** April 20, 2010, 06:25:26 am »

Happily using CHrome - made me very lazy with the excellent address/search bar.
Also have IE8 for backup; for all those sites not supported by Chrome (not many - some banks and all that). Also some pdf files don't open in chrome; so the backup comes in handy.

GBF · « **Reply #213 on:** April 20, 2010, 11:12:09 am »

Quote from: Niru Red4ever on April 20, 2010, 06:25:26 am

Happily using CHrome - made me very lazy with the excellent address/search bar.
Also have IE8 for backup; for all those sites not supported by Chrome (not many - some banks and all that). Also some pdf files don't open in chrome; so the backup comes in handy.

pdf open in chrome, make sure you got your extensions downloaded and also you can display IE compatible pages in chrome by using the IE extension

tinner777 · « **Reply #214 on:** April 26, 2010, 09:27:15 am »

is everyone who moved from safari to chrome still happy?

timiano · « **Reply #215 on:** April 26, 2010, 11:14:32 pm »

Quote from: stevensr123 on April 20, 2010, 04:13:41 am

so has anyone else had any problems with it yet? some times when I'm browsing it freezes up on certain websites (ebay, rawk when there is lots of flash: the youtube thread) and i have to just browse on fire fox.

also could someone help me, my bookmarks bar keeps on disappearing all of a sudden.

EDIT: fixed the book mark problem.

No problems on either of the sites you mention? Are you on a mac or PC though?

WorldChampions · « **Reply #216 on:** April 27, 2010, 02:26:21 am »

Quote from: tinner777 on April 26, 2010, 09:27:15 am

is everyone who moved from safari to chrome still happy?

Yea

Lady_brandybuck · « **Reply #217 on:** April 27, 2010, 02:28:21 am »

I moved from Firefox to Chrome, no complaints so far... is faster and lighter than firefox

Gigantic Lamb · « **Reply #218 on:** April 27, 2010, 09:26:50 am »

Quote from: tinner777 on April 26, 2010, 09:27:15 am

is everyone who moved from safari to chrome still happy?

Very happy

iSmiff · « **Reply #219 on:** April 27, 2010, 09:33:51 am »

other than it blocking the odd site on me that it, for some reason, thought was a dodgy site with malware it's been fine,

and no, they weren't porn sites, they were proper legit sites for reputable companies

Beav · « **Reply #220 on:** April 27, 2010, 11:18:00 am »

Switched from Firefox yesterday, first impressions are its running well and faster than FF.

tinner777 · « **Reply #221 on:** April 27, 2010, 11:53:50 am »

smashing, off to switch so

Ginamos · « **Reply #222 on:** April 27, 2010, 12:05:10 pm »

I'd been using Safari since 2003, but was increasingly pissed of with how much memory it hogged, and how every upgrade broke extensions. Won't be going back to Safari unless Apple radically overhaul it.

Experienced a few times when pages hang on load and get a "kill" or "wait" window. Generally Chrome's been very fast, with much better memory management, I keep it open for days without any problems.

Gigantic Lamb · « **Reply #223 on:** April 27, 2010, 12:09:15 pm »

Quote from: iSmiff on April 27, 2010, 09:33:51 am

and no, they weren't porn sites

I believe you......

wacko · « **Reply #224 on:** April 27, 2010, 05:51:50 pm »

Quote from: iSmiff on April 27, 2010, 09:33:51 am

other than it blocking the odd site on me that it, for some reason, thought was a dodgy site with malware it's been fine,

and no, they weren't porn sites, they were proper legit sites for reputable companies

What the fuck would anyone want with a browser that blocks porn?!?

Walshy nMe® · « **Reply #225 on:** April 28, 2010, 08:27:45 am »

I tried using it, I just don't like it. I prefer having the bookmarks where they are on Firefox. I also love the Gmail manager in the bottom right that works better than chrome, and I haven't noticed it be slow or buggy.

Maybe I'm in the minority.

Harry_Wong · « **Reply #226 on:** April 30, 2010, 09:49:59 pm »

Browser comparison...advisories and vulnerabilities, updated since March 30:

secunia.com Vulnerability Reports:

SRWare Iron 4.x
0 Secunia advisories
0 Vulnerabilities

Mozilla Firefox 3.6.x
1 2 Secunia advisories
10 16 Vulnerabilities

Google Chrome 4.x
3 5 Secunia advisories
18 28 Vulnerabilities

Opera 10.x
5 6 Secunia advisories
9 10 Vulnerabilities

Apple Safari 4.x
6 Secunia advisories
32 Vulnerabilities

Internet Explorer 8.x
10 11 Secunia advisories
42 43 Vulnerabilities

tinner777 · « **Reply #227 on:** April 30, 2010, 09:58:29 pm »

Quote from: Harry_Wong on April 30, 2010, 09:49:59 pm

Browser comparison...advisories and vulnerabilities, updated since March 30:

secunia.com Vulnerability Reports:
SRWare Iron 4.x
0 Secunia advisories
0 Vulnerabilities
Mozilla Firefox 3.6.x
1 2 Secunia advisories
10 16 Vulnerabilities
Google Chrome 4.x
3 5 Secunia advisories
18 28 Vulnerabilities
Opera 10.x
5 6 Secunia advisories
9 10 Vulnerabilities
Apple Safari 4.x
6 Secunia advisories
32 Vulnerabilities
Internet Explorer 8.x
10 11 Secunia advisories
42 43 Vulnerabilities

what does that mean? I suppose the issues are windows based?

Harry_Wong · « **Reply #228 on:** April 30, 2010, 10:36:05 pm »

Quote from: tinner777 on April 30, 2010, 09:58:29 pm

what does that mean? I suppose the issues are windows based?

In most cases it means a vulnerability has been identified with the application rather than the OS (Apple and Linux users are smug enough to look after themselves

). The vulnerability either has/hasn't been patched by the manufacturer. So these offers a measure of the vulnerability of the application, and whether or not the vendor has responded to fix reported vulnerabilities.

This is the most recent reported for Firefox 3.6.x, in this case updating to the latest version of Firefox 3.6.x is required. That's been patched to fix the vulnerability:

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Description
A vulnerability has been reported in Mozilla Firefox, which can be exploited by malicious people to compromise a user's system. The vulnerability is caused due to a use-after-free error when moving DOM nodes between documents and can be exploited via a specially crafted web page. Successful exploitation allows execution of arbitrary code.

Solution
Update to version 3.6.3.

Provided and/or discovered by
Nils of MWR InfoSecurity, reported via ZDI

Monitoring software and updating isn't always something users always want to do. Secunia Personal Software Inspector (PSI) can monitor which applications need updating/patching and link directly to the necessary updates.

Harry_Wong · « **Reply #229 on:** April 30, 2010, 10:55:21 pm »

A less critical vulnerability in Apple Safari 4.x (on Windows), still unpatched:

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Apple Safari Stylesheet Redirection Information Disclosure
Secunia Advisory    SA37931
Release Date    2010-01-22
Last Update    2010-03-16
Criticality level   Less critical
Impact    Exposure of sensitive information
Where    From remote
Solution Status    Unpatched
Software:      Apple Safari 4.x
Description
Cesar Cerrudo has discovered a vulnerability in Apple Safari, which can be exploited by malicious people to disclose potentially sensitive information.

The vulnerability is caused due to the application following redirects for stylesheets and allowing to read the target URL. This can be exploited on sites that use redirects to URLs containing potentially sensitive information e.g. within the query string.

This is related to vulnerability #8 in: SA28758

NOTE: This does not affect redirects to URLs using HTTPS.

The vulnerability is confirmed in version 4.0.4 and 4.0.5 on Windows. Other versions may also be affected.

Solution: Do not browse untrusted sites while accessing other sites with potentially sensitive information in the URL.

Provided and/or discovered by Cesar Cerrudo

Original Advisory: http://nomoreroot.blogspot.com/2010/01/little-bug-in-safari-and-google-chrome.html

tinner777 · « **Reply #230 on:** May 2, 2010, 08:15:19 pm »

thanks

wacko · « **Reply #231 on:** May 3, 2010, 10:57:44 am »

I think your best bet is to use Mozilla Prism to make a site-specific browser for any sensitive sites.

I use them for all webmail, shopping and banking sites I use regularly, and if I want to buy something somewhere else, I start another browser with just that site (e.g. I normally use WebKit, but open Chrome to shop etc.).

You can make SSBs with Safari, too, but I don't recommend it, as all Safari instances use the same cookie store. To my mind, that defeats the purpose of an SSB.

Harry_Wong · « **Reply #232 on:** May 3, 2010, 04:32:47 pm »

Quote from: wacko on May 3, 2010, 10:57:44 am

I think your best bet is to use Mozilla Prism to make a site-specific browser for any sensitive sites.

I use them for all webmail, shopping and banking sites I use regularly, and if I want to buy something somewhere else, I start another browser with just that site (e.g. I normally use WebKit, but open Chrome to shop etc.).

You can make SSBs with Safari, too, but I don't recommend it, as all Safari instances use the same cookie store. To my mind, that defeats the purpose of an SSB.

I hadn't seen that before. It looks very cool, and useful. I suppose the advantage is vulnerabilities may be contained...like ones that use a tab to gather data from others?

I didn't realise Chrome (and SRWare Iron) can do something similar using the page menu (select 'Create application shortcuts...'). They don't appear to use the same cookie store, I could log onto a site and duplicate or vary settings between browser and SSB.

Prism as a separate application (rather than FF plug-in) looks like it takes that a step further.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grhvYQW8HKI

I'll give it a whirl.

Adds ... installation wasn't as I expected. It seems to have associtated *.webapps to MDC (Prism), but no direct access to the standalone Prism application (desktop shortcut, a folder under program files, or even add/remove programs). I think I'll system restore back to yesterday.

I'll system restore.

myrlas · « **Reply #233 on:** May 4, 2010, 09:44:33 am »

Is it possible to sort the different file types you download through chrome?

In FF you could put your files in a default folder, but for instance torrent files to a separate folder. Is that possible in chrome?

keithcun · « **Reply #234 on:** May 4, 2010, 09:46:07 am »

Quote from: Walshy® on April 28, 2010, 08:27:45 am

I tried using it, I just don't like it. I prefer having the bookmarks where they are on Firefox. I also love the Gmail manager in the bottom right that works better than chrome, and I haven't noticed it be slow or buggy.

Maybe I'm in the minority.

Nope, I'm sticking with FF. Tried Chrome but didn't like that I couldn't customise it to the levels you can with FF.

wacko · « **Reply #235 on:** May 4, 2010, 01:45:58 pm »

Quote from: Harry_Wong on May 3, 2010, 04:32:47 pm

I hadn't seen that before. It looks very cool, and useful. I suppose the advantage is vulnerabilities may be contained...like ones that use a tab to gather data from others?

I didn't realise Chrome (and SRWare Iron) can do something similar using the page menu (select 'Create application shortcuts...'). They don't appear to use the same cookie store, I could log onto a site and duplicate or vary settings between browser and SSB.

Prism as a separate application (rather than FF plug-in) looks like it takes that a step further.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grhvYQW8HKI

I'll give it a whirl.

Adds ... installation wasn't as I expected. It seems to have associtated *.webapps to MDC (Prism), but no direct access to the standalone Prism application (desktop shortcut, a folder under program files, or even add/remove programs). I think I'll system restore back to yesterday.

I'll system restore.

I think Prism creates a wrapper application that is more like a locked-down profile than a full application. It would be daft to have 20 copies of Firefox on your system.

The basic idea of an SSB is that you run each site as a separate application with separate sessions. That means that you're not vulnerable to any kind of cross-site scripting attacks, because you're not logged in anywhere else in that browser.

Google Chrome does a great job of protecting your OS from the Internet, but it doesn't do a good job protecting your web pages from one another.

LpoolLou · « **Reply #236 on:** June 14, 2010, 01:00:38 am »

Im back using Firefox and cant believe how much faster it is.

Chrome would just freeze and take forever waiting for a page to load it was so frustrating! where as now Firefox only takes a second.
Chrome also caused adobe flash to eat up the cpu to 100% then my pc would just shut itself down! Since using Firefox ive not had a problem with flash and the cpu runs at a nice steady low pace.
I am going to uninstall google chrome tomorrow and hope i can get rid of that horrible google updater that come with it.

iSmiff · « **Reply #237 on:** June 14, 2010, 11:56:05 am »

hmm, the sort of person who would install google updates likely has a virus riddled machine, give it a month and firefox will be slow again

LpoolLou · « **Reply #238 on:** June 14, 2010, 04:31:04 pm »

i think googleupdate.exe comes automatically with google chrome. look to see if its there in task manager

Harry_Wong · « **Reply #239 on:** June 15, 2010, 02:19:14 pm »

Quote from: myrlas on May 4, 2010, 09:44:33 am

Is it possible to sort the different file types you download through chrome?

In FF you could put your files in a default folder, but for instance torrent files to a separate folder. Is that possible in chrome?

Late reply: If it's the same as SRWare Iron (which is built on the Chromium engine), See the 'Under the Bonnet' tab among the Options. There's Downloads, and 'Download location' is set there, with a tick-box to 'ask every time'.

As I said, Chrome may differ slightly from Iron, but probably not much more than the description.