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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3480 on: March 10, 2010, 05:27:27 pm »
They'll probably have Chamakh next season, so they'll be even better, providing they keep key players.

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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3481 on: March 10, 2010, 05:33:03 pm »
You have common sense.

HAHAHAH 3 goals.. HOW SHIT!!

Yeah.. a hatrick is shit.. ::)



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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3482 on: March 10, 2010, 05:43:50 pm »
Yep, that's what I said. ::)
You basically took the piss. Hince the word shit went into my post.

Since when does 3 goals have to be world class? Just get the ball in the fucking net.

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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3483 on: March 10, 2010, 05:46:41 pm »
I thougt Bendner face when he got substituted at the weekend was hilarious.

He was laughing his head off knwoing he had screwed up 8 chances inside the area. Apparently a feat only matched by Darren bent.

If Aresenal had not of won though, I can imagine the fans would have been all over him.

I thought his goals were OK. Classic striker goals, you still have to be there to score.

I think the only reason Nasri scored though was because he was in a such a bad position for Nasri to pass to him and it was better for him to go alone.

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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3484 on: March 10, 2010, 06:04:27 pm »
If Arsenal could get David Villa then they'd be unstoppable, would suit them down to the bone, obviously they'll never get him cos they don't have the money and Valencia are gonna qualify for the Champions League. A top quality, fast, creative striker is what they're missing.
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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3485 on: March 10, 2010, 07:49:45 pm »
Bendtner is an average player who had a good game last night. Arsenal have lots of terrifically skillful, technically excellent players. Bendtner isn't one of them, and his scoring record, amongst other things demonstrates that.


His 5 goals in 4 games or the 14 goals last season at a young age while being 4th choice striker? Seems pretty good to me.


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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3486 on: March 10, 2010, 08:57:04 pm »
His 5 goals in 4 games or the 14 goals last season at a young age while being 4th choice striker? Seems pretty good to me.



Its alright. It isn't however in the class of a Rooney, Torres, Villa or Drogba. If Arsenal aspire to be one of the best teams in Europe then that is the class of player they need. They have the supporting cast, but they still need the leading lady   
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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3487 on: March 10, 2010, 09:00:57 pm »
Its alright. It isn't however in the class of a Rooney, Torres, Villa or Drogba. If Arsenal aspire to be one of the best teams in Europe then that is the class of player they need. They have the supporting cast, but they still need the leading lady   

I doubt he is their first choice striker. They have Van Persie and will probably be getting Chamakh in the summer. And those stats for a 3rd/4th choice striker are pretty good.

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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3488 on: March 10, 2010, 09:34:36 pm »
What are you looking at for a squad in five years time?  Well, the start of the 2015-16 season (ages in brackets):

GK: Szczesny† (25); Fabianski (30); Mannone (27)

Def: Gibbs (25); Sagna (32); Vermaelen (29); Senderos (30); Djourou (27); Clichy (30); Eboué (32); Traoré (25); Cruise† (24)

Mid: Ramsey (24); Diaby (29); Fabregas (28); Nasri (28); Walcott (26); Denilson (27); Song (27); Wilshere (23); Merida (25); Coquelin† (24); Eastmond (24); Watt† (24)

Fwd: Eduardo (32); van Persie (32); Vela (26); Bendtner (27); Chamakh (31); Barazite† (25); Freeman* (22); Murphy* (24)

* - Denotes they have not started an Arsenal first-team game.
† - Played Arsenal non-Prem first-team game.


Some of that scares me, the progress that can be made if that core of players sticks together could be immense for me.
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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3489 on: March 10, 2010, 09:36:02 pm »
Take Fabregas out of that side lad, not a chance he'll be there in 5 years. Or even 2.
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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3490 on: March 10, 2010, 09:37:14 pm »
Its alright. It isn't however in the class of a Rooney, Torres, Villa or Drogba. If Arsenal aspire to be one of the best teams in Europe then that is the class of player they need. They have the supporting cast, but they still need the leading lady

But he is a supporting cast player at the moment. Unfortunately with Van Persie injured, we don't have a ready made superstar replacement so we promoted a talented squad player to lead the line. As you have had to do when Torres gets hurt, as Chelsea and Man U would have to do

Senderos, one of the leftbacks (probably Traore), Eduardo will probably be gone by then, maybe someone like Denilson as well. Can't see Murphy or Cruise making it at the club.
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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3491 on: March 10, 2010, 09:41:52 pm »
Take Fabregas out of that side lad, not a chance he'll be there in 5 years. Or even 2.
Was tempted to leave him out anyway!  As much of a talisman he's become there's a solid core there that can battle for honours for them regardless.
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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3492 on: March 10, 2010, 09:43:57 pm »
Some of that scares me, the progress that can be made if that core of players sticks together could be immense for me.

You're forgetting Wenger selling all the ones who begin to look world class and replacing them with a Ghanian sperm.
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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3493 on: March 10, 2010, 09:47:28 pm »
You're forgetting Wenger selling all the ones who begin to look world class and replacing them with a Ghanian sperm.

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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3494 on: March 10, 2010, 10:14:16 pm »
Would arsenal consider giving us their stadium?
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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3495 on: March 10, 2010, 10:59:24 pm »
Would arsenal consider giving us their stadium?
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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3496 on: March 10, 2010, 11:01:10 pm »
Share deal? :D

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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3497 on: March 19, 2010, 09:32:47 am »
Arsenal have been on a five game win streak, they may win the title if they keep it up.
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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3498 on: March 19, 2010, 10:05:29 am »
Arsenal have been on a five game win streak, they may win the title if they keep it up.

'tis very true. And when they clear their debt in a few years and start spending real money on players they will be a formidible club in the Premier and Champions League.

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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3499 on: March 21, 2010, 01:00:53 am »
They are in the zone now and the luck is going their way - spilled shots in the 94th minute and missed penalties - reminds me of us last season!

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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3500 on: March 21, 2010, 07:37:50 am »
They are in the zone now and the luck is going their way - spilled shots in the 94th minute and missed penalties - reminds me of us last season!

At the moment, much derided players like Denilson and Almunia have been vital in recent weeks as well. When things go for you, things go for you but would still say Man U or Chelsea to win the league, if we go out of the CL before the final, we will wobble. 

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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3501 on: March 21, 2010, 08:06:44 am »
Arsenal have been on a five game win streak, they may win the title if they keep it up.

they will win the title if they keep it up
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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3502 on: March 21, 2010, 02:08:55 pm »
Arsenal are the real deal..they are peaking at the right time..this COULD be their season...
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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3503 on: March 21, 2010, 03:56:41 pm »
Cmon arsenal, win the fuckin league lads.
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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3504 on: March 24, 2010, 10:59:14 am »
Can't believe Arshavin has gone back to his home country and said to the media that he doesn't think Arsenal have enough superstars to win the League in this or any season.

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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3505 on: March 24, 2010, 11:56:30 am »
Can't believe Arshavin has gone back to his home country and said to the media that he doesn't think Arsenal have enough superstars to win the League in this or any season.

For someone that has a fucking lot to say it is slightly ironic that he puts his fingers to his lips everytime he scores a goal.

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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3506 on: March 24, 2010, 12:18:54 pm »
Arsenal are the real deal..they are peaking at the right time..this COULD be their season...

My hubby, otherwise known as The Resident Gooner, is daring to dream. Van Persie's due back, they seem to be hitting their stride....and I'd rather see Arsenal win the Prem than Man Utd.
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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3507 on: March 24, 2010, 12:20:59 pm »
My hubby, otherwise known as The Resident Gooner, is daring to dream. Van Persie's due back, they seem to be hitting their stride....and I'd rather see Arsenal win the Prem than Man Utd.

I'd rather Chelsea than either of them.
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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3508 on: March 24, 2010, 12:26:10 pm »
Can't stand Chelsea......if Arsenal weren't in the race, I'd rather they won than United, but I've got a soft spot for Arsenal.
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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3509 on: March 24, 2010, 12:28:35 pm »
I'd rather Chelsea than either of them.

Chelsea aren't far off in the 'c*nt' stakes from the Mancs for me. Whereas Arsenal just have an annoying 'holier than thou' attitude which I love to see get knocked down a peg.

But more importantly, if Arsenal win it, it shows that teams wouldn't need to spend big to win the league. And surely that's a good result for our club?
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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3510 on: March 24, 2010, 12:35:42 pm »
Can't stand Chelsea......if Arsenal weren't in the race, I'd rather they won than United, but I've got a soft spot for Arsenal.

Nah, hated Arsenal since the 80s. Chelsea are no-bodies, Arsenal have always been pricks.

Besides which, I couldn't stand the wankfest over Arsene winning the league despite never spending a penny (except £20m on Arshavin, £5m on 18 year old Ramsey, £12m on Walcott, £12m(ish) on Nasri, a few million on Rosicky, £10m on Vermaelen and so forth).
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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3511 on: March 24, 2010, 01:24:59 pm »
another thing. i remember last a couple of years ago alliadiere getting sent off against us. boro appealed it, it was rejected and he got an extra game. same for turner of sunderland earlier this season. however vermaelen got sent off last weekend, arsenal appealed, it was rejected but he didn't get an extra game. what's that about?

is it a different rule for perceived "violent conduct"?

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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3512 on: March 24, 2010, 01:42:55 pm »

Besides which, I couldn't stand the wankfest over Arsene winning the league despite never spending a penny (except £20m on Arshavin, £5m on 18 year old Ramsey, £12m on Walcott, £12m(ish) on Nasri, a few million on Rosicky, £10m on Vermaelen and so forth).

It's amazing how this comes to be seen as the perceived wisdom and trotted out by all and sundry. However, having said that, I want the Arse to win the league.
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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3513 on: March 24, 2010, 03:13:40 pm »
But more importantly, if Arsenal win it, it shows that teams wouldn't need to spend big to win the league. And surely that's a good result for our club?

Do we really need Arsenal to win that thing to know that you don't have to have an endless pit of money to spend? We got very close last season and I think we've seen this season that things can go wrong for other clubs even if they spend loads of money. Chelsea and the Mancs have been nowhere near as dominant as the years before and City are still struggling despite (or because of?) spending a shitload of cash.

I think we all KNOW that you can win the league without spending a lot of money, but at the same time you'll also either need a very good season yourself (like us last season) or you need others to struggle (like this season with all of the big 4 dropping points at crazy places like Burnley or Pompey).

If it's between Arsenal and the Mancs (and I'm afraid that now it is), I'm all for the Gooners, but if it's between Chelsea, Arsenal and Utd. it's Chelsea all the way. It would still be a terrible sight, but it would be much easier to stomach than the inevitable wankfest over Wenger and his bunch of kids.

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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3514 on: March 24, 2010, 04:59:56 pm »
If Utd don't win the league, then Arsenal will. You can forget about Chelsea. Chelsea are running out of gas and they are losing confidence all the time and to be honest, Arsenal is now more consistent, the best squad we have had in 4 years and better goal threats.

To of lost our best striker since November and still able to score a pretty large number of goals is good.

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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3515 on: March 24, 2010, 05:42:53 pm »
Quote from: L6 Red on January 31, 2010, 07:03:16 PM
I'm not a moron. You will be, at worst, 8 points off the top. Exactly as you were after you lost to Chelsea. Yet you want Wenger out. Dear me. Good, rational support.

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We haven't won anything for years now. His tactics are nothing but dodgy and have been for a while. When we need a striker, he ignores it. We need a midfielder, he ignores it. We need a goal keeper, he ignores it. Basic stuff you need to win the championship.

Wenger is making the exact same mistakes he made in 2008.
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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3516 on: March 24, 2010, 06:00:11 pm »
Quote from: L6 Red on January 31, 2010, 07:03:16 PM
I'm not a moron. You will be, at worst, 8 points off the top. Exactly as you were after you lost to Chelsea. Yet you want Wenger out. Dear me. Good, rational support.

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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3517 on: March 24, 2010, 06:29:50 pm »
Nah, hated Arsenal since the 80s. Chelsea are no-bodies, Arsenal have always been pricks.

Besides which, I couldn't stand the wankfest over Arsene winning the league despite never spending a penny (except £20m on Arshavin, £5m on 18 year old Ramsey, £12m on Walcott, £12m(ish) on Nasri, a few million on Rosicky, £10m on Vermaelen and so forth).

I thought it was all about Net spend though? Or does net spend only count when defending Rafa Benitez.

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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3518 on: March 24, 2010, 06:39:26 pm »
I thought it was all about Net spend though? Or does net spend only count when defending Rafa Benitez.

Net spend only works when you have the figures. Seems Arsenal pay lots of money for kids that go disclosed....

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Re: I like the fact you underestimate Arsenal this season!!
« Reply #3519 on: March 24, 2010, 07:03:32 pm »
I thought it was all about Net spend though? Or does net spend only count when defending Rafa Benitez.

It doesn't count to the twats that like to slag Rafa, why should it count to anyone else?
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