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Re: New laptop advice
« Reply #680 on: February 4, 2016, 03:19:51 PM »
Quick question Red Raw, I'm getting the laptop this weekend but just wondered if there was a massive difference between these two?
I decided on the HP as the ASUS had some poor reviews, even thought the ASUS had the better spec and better HDD.


So these two HP models, are they the same or is there a difference?

Cheers

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/hewlett-packard-hp-350-core-i5-5200u-2.2ghz-8gb-500gb-15.6-dvd-sm-win-7-pr-k9j04ea/version.asp

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/hp-350-g2-core-i5-5200u-8gb-500gb-dvdsm-15.6-inch-windows-7-pro-windows-8-k9j03ea-8gb/version.asp


One is the G2 but that's the only real difference I can see.

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Re: New laptop advice
« Reply #681 on: February 5, 2016, 01:38:57 PM »
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-15-ab291sa-15-6-laptop-red-10138072-pdt.html

Can anybody give me an opinion on this?  I'm going from a MacBook but it's an older model which has seen better days.

I'm looking for something for basic usage, watching films,  music, Internet browsing and, it's main use, to play Football Manager 2016.

Will this meet those needs to a decent standard/speed?

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Re: New laptop advice
« Reply #682 on: February 5, 2016, 09:09:32 PM »
Quick question Red Raw, I'm getting the laptop this weekend but just wondered if there was a massive difference between these two?
I decided on the HP as the ASUS had some poor reviews, even thought the ASUS had the better spec and better HDD.


So these two HP models, are they the same or is there a difference?

Cheers

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/hewlett-packard-hp-350-core-i5-5200u-2.2ghz-8gb-500gb-15.6-dvd-sm-win-7-pr-k9j04ea/version.asp

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/hp-350-g2-core-i5-5200u-8gb-500gb-dvdsm-15.6-inch-windows-7-pro-windows-8-k9j03ea-8gb/version.asp


One is the G2 but that's the only real difference I can see.
Hello mate - sorry I was a bit tied up earlier.

It looks to me like they are basically the same laptop - unfortunately it looks like your first link has sold out so I can't see the detailed specification, but searching on the model number (K9J03EA) I can see that on other sites it has been sold with 4GB of RAM, so if there was a 4GB/8GB option that might explain the slight difference in the model number.

The other one does have a near identical model number (K9J04EA) and all the important bits (processor/gpu, HDD, RAM etc) are the same and just what you said you were looking for.

It could also be that the model is offered with other different options (e.g. choice of Windows 7 Pro/ Windows 8.1) which is probably neither here nor there for most (although personally I prefer W7 Pro over 8.1).  The missing G2 moniker could be a mistake on the website - searching on that model number you will see the same machine with the G2 label on other sites.

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Re: New laptop advice
« Reply #683 on: February 5, 2016, 09:10:16 PM »
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-15-ab291sa-15-6-laptop-red-10138072-pdt.html

Can anybody give me an opinion on this?  I'm going from a MacBook but it's an older model which has seen better days.

I'm looking for something for basic usage, watching films,  music, Internet browsing and, it's main use, to play Football Manager 2016.

Will this meet those needs to a decent standard/speed?

That should be fine for all the things you have listed mate :). Enjoy!

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Re: New laptop advice
« Reply #684 on: February 5, 2016, 10:32:24 PM »
Hello mate - sorry I was a bit tied up earlier.

It looks to me like they are basically the same laptop - unfortunately it looks like your first link has sold out so I can't see the detailed specification, but searching on the model number (K9J03EA) I can see that on other sites it has been sold with 4GB of RAM, so if there was a 4GB/8GB option that might explain the slight difference in the model number.

The other one does have a near identical model number (K9J04EA) and all the important bits (processor/gpu, HDD, RAM etc) are the same and just what you said you were looking for.

It could also be that the model is offered with other different options (e.g. choice of Windows 7 Pro/ Windows 8.1) which is probably neither here nor there for most (although personally I prefer W7 Pro over 8.1).  The missing G2 moniker could be a mistake on the website - searching on that model number you will see the same machine with the G2 label on other sites.

Best of luck - after your old Vista machine it should feel like rocket!


Cheers mate, I thought they were probably the same.
They both have upgrades to Windows 10 anyway, although I'm sure I'll have to do it.
I shall get it ordered.

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Re: New laptop advice
« Reply #685 on: February 12, 2016, 06:44:16 PM »
Alright guys, I'm looking to buy a new laptop topping about 800 most expensive . One that can run games at a Decent level, high resolution quite a big monitor screen and is quick and smooth etc. any recommendations? Cheers!

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Re: New laptop advice
« Reply #686 on: February 13, 2016, 01:53:18 PM »
Alright guys, I'm looking to buy a new laptop topping about 800 most expensive . One that can run games at a Decent level, high resolution quite a big monitor screen and is quick and smooth etc. any recommendations? Cheers!
I know this is the laptop thread but if you are looking for decent performance in games and a large screen you might be better off with a small desktop PC and nice monitor.  For that money you could buy/build an absolute scorcher - even an 1800 quid 'gaming' laptop would struggle to compete with a £800 PC.

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Re: New laptop advice
« Reply #687 on: February 19, 2016, 08:26:17 PM »
So I bought the HP 350 G2 and it's a decent laptop, nice and quiet, fast and decent spec for the price.
But I noticed the screen has a blue hue and I thought hmmmm.... so I played about and adjusted/calibrated the colour and got it a little better but not great.

So I did the upgrade from W7 to W10 (stupidly) thinking it maybe a W7 thing and not a laptop thing.... obviously not.
It's not a full blue screen and it's very subtle but also very obvious and very annoying.
I compared to my old laptop and also plugged into my TV via HDMI and the whites were white and the blacks were black as opposed to whiteish blue and blackish blue.

Very annoying.

Contacted HP and they said it's probably a hardware issue and they are going to come and collect on Tuesday and it'll take 8-10 days to check/fix and get back to me.

Kinda wishing I'd listened to my friends who told me to avoid HP but oh well.... it'll get sorted I supose.

Really annoying though, I got it Wednesday (just gone) and other than the screen issue it seems a nice laptop.

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Re: New laptop advice
« Reply #688 on: February 21, 2016, 02:14:46 PM »
Sorry you've had grief mate.  From what you've said it looks like a dodgy LCD.

There are only a handful of manufacturers who make LCDs, most are based in South Korea (LG, Samsung) and Taiwan (Innolux, AUO), with some in Japan (Sharp) and others in China.  Between them these will these supply screens for pretty much all the mainstream PC brands so I would be surprised if it was an HP specific problem.

It sounds like you have been unlucky - hope your retailer looks after you and gets it sorted asap.

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Re: New laptop advice
« Reply #689 on: February 21, 2016, 04:26:49 PM »
I didn't contact retailer,  contacted HP direct and they're coming to collect it on monday.
They said it was a hardware issue probably.

 Like I said it's pretty subtle but very annoying.

When your 7 year old shitty laptop looks better (screen) than your your spanking new one.. it's annoying.

It's all good it'll hopefully get sorted.
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Re: New laptop advice
« Reply #690 on: February 21, 2016, 05:08:30 PM »
Just bought myself a Lenovo Ideapad 300 15.6 in with 8gb Ram and 1tb hard disk running windows 10 £257 from Amazon.
It isn't spectacularly quick but it does what I need from  it (general browsing, YouTube, iPlayer etc).

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Re: New laptop advice
« Reply #691 on: February 21, 2016, 05:15:49 PM »
Just bought myself a Lenovo Ideapad 300 15.6 in with 8gb Ram and 1tb hard disk running windows 10 £257 from Amazon.
It isn't spectacularly quick but it does what I need from  it (general browsing, YouTube, iPlayer etc).
What processor is in that?  Sounds like a decent deal.

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Re: New laptop advice
« Reply #692 on: February 21, 2016, 05:25:24 PM »
What processor is in that?  Sounds like a decent deal.
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I must admit, I'm not a hardware guru so cant extol its pitfalls, but the fact is I needed a budget decent spec PC.This seemed quite cheap for what you get, and as I don't do gaming etc, I figured I probably don't need dedicated graphics and stuff. (The CPU runs the display).

Edit: Here it is

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B015Q27NGK?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
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Re: New laptop advice
« Reply #693 on: February 25, 2016, 12:16:33 PM »
I didn't contact retailer,  contacted HP direct and they're coming to collect it on monday.
They said it was a hardware issue probably.

 Like I said it's pretty subtle but very annoying.

When your 7 year old shitty laptop looks better (screen) than your your spanking new one.. it's annoying.

It's all good it'll hopefully get sorted.


Just to update - I cancelled the HP pickup and have sent it back to laptops direct today.
After reading about the screen online at notebook check and other sites, it seems that this HP just has a substandard screen. I mean it was pretty woeful. The blue hue could have been removed apparently by downloading some software etc but Fuck that. I contacted LD and they said sorry I wasn't happy but send it back in pristine condition and if it passes their tests and meets their criteria I'll get a refund.. so I posted it today.
I know some of it is probably the matte screen but the colours were terrible and reading around, reviewers weren't impressed.

Should have done more research I think.
And this is the issue with buying online - you don't get to view the screen etc.
Most places like curry's/PC world stock a limited number of laptops too so no real way to view there and then buy online.

Hopefully I get a full refund...they seemed very strict in the returns T&C and had charges for various things.
Sigh...oh well.

Fingers crossed.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2016, 04:48:54 PM by johnsmithlfc »
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Re: New laptop advice
« Reply #694 on: February 27, 2016, 01:55:03 PM »
Pentium N3700.

http://ark.intel.com/m/products/87261/Intel-Pentium-Processor-N3700-2M-Cache-up-to-2_40-GHz

I must admit, I'm not a hardware guru so cant extol its pitfalls, but the fact is I needed a budget decent spec PC.This seemed quite cheap for what you get, and as I don't do gaming etc, I figured I probably don't need dedicated graphics and stuff. (The CPU runs the display).

Edit: Here it is

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B015Q27NGK?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

what's the keyboard like on that mate?.....is it the integrated/moulded key type? if so I might go for it......ive tried a few Lenovo's but they had a flimsy sort of clip-on type - just wondering if this does or not as I cant tell from the pics
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Re: New laptop advice
« Reply #695 on: February 27, 2016, 02:03:47 PM »
what's the keyboard like on that mate?.....is it the integrated/moulded key type? if so I might go for it......ive tried a few Lenovo's but they had a flimsy sort of clip-on type - just wondering if this does or not as I cant tell from the pics
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Out of date Laptop
« Reply #696 on: March 2, 2016, 09:33:57 PM »
Evening all,

Not used my Laptop in almost a year on account of it being shit. Fired it up earlier but can't even get onto Chrome as I haven't got latest flash plug ins etc. It's Windows 7 which I'm guessing is very out of date now.

Do I need to install a newer version of Chrome? Update flash? All of the above? If so is that straight forward? Laptop is being so slow that everything is a struggle.

Cheers for any help.

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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #697 on: March 2, 2016, 09:36:52 PM »
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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #698 on: March 2, 2016, 09:37:58 PM »
What are you wanting to use it for ?

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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #699 on: March 2, 2016, 09:38:58 PM »
If only for Internet and email, I'd wipe it clean and install Ubuntu 15

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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #700 on: March 2, 2016, 09:39:21 PM »
What are you wanting to use it for ?
I suggest..........
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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #701 on: March 2, 2016, 09:43:23 PM »
If only for Internet and email, I'd wipe it clean and install Ubuntu 15

Mainly that really. Could do with getting back on Word and Excel from home too so need something other than the iPad.

Anything I can do with this old piece of shit or do I just need to buy a new one?!

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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #702 on: March 2, 2016, 09:44:38 PM »
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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #703 on: March 2, 2016, 10:12:27 PM »
Leave it turned on overnight and disable the power save options. It may be in update hell where everything is trying to update because it is all out of date. Let the update programs do their stuff and see if it all settles down.

Remove anything that you don't really need. Stop as much as you can from auto starting. And wait for ages.

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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #704 on: March 2, 2016, 11:59:34 PM »
Leave it turned on overnight and disable the power save options. It may be in update hell where everything is trying to update because it is all out of date. Let the update programs do their stuff and see if it all settles down.

Remove anything that you don't really need. Stop as much as you can from auto starting. And wait for ages.
Pretty much this, I recently had to do a fresh install of Windows 7 and, overall, I think it was about 500 updates off and on and even then, leaving it on overnight didn't get it all done so don't forget about the download times too.  Boot up Windows Update (type "wuapp" without the quote marks in the search box on the Start Menu if you have Windows 7) and probably unclick the Windows 10 update too in Optional Updates.  Then "Show All Available Updates" and you'll most likely have a shit-ton to get through.  Let them download, your computer will probably reboot a few times, repeat the same again for as many times as needed (the updates will need updates) until it's updated.

Then your best bets are probably Disk Defragmenter and Disk Cleanup.
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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #705 on: March 3, 2016, 12:10:35 AM »
Install a lite version of Linux on it - always would recommend this for breathing new life into old PC's/Laptops.
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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #706 on: March 3, 2016, 12:42:14 AM »
Have you tried to restore factory settings when you turn it on?

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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #707 on: March 3, 2016, 01:18:59 AM »
Evening all,

Not used my Laptop in almost a year on account of it being shit. Fired it up earlier but can't even get onto Chrome as I haven't got latest flash plug ins etc. It's Windows 7 which I'm guessing is very out of date now.

Do I need to install a newer version of Chrome? Update flash? All of the above? If so is that straight forward? Laptop is being so slow that everything is a struggle.

Cheers for any help.
Navigate to here ~ "Control Panel\System and Security\System" then post up the specs of the lappie. If it's shit straight off the bat and worth a tenner than it'll make a great retro paperweight and you can get your arse to Currys to find a replacement. Upgrading at this stage will be throwing money down the drain.

If the specs look ok then yeah get the thing up to date via Windows Update. I'd then add these two (assuming you can actually access the net in some fashion?)...

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/security-essentials-download
https://www.malwarebytes.org/

Once you get those two installed, run both (one at a time) and make sure your PC is clean. After that you can opt to download, install and use one or both of these...

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http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/adwcleaner/

Both will look to remove anything harmful remaining on your lappie and potentially fix any faults they may of caused (highjacked shortcuts etc).

Following that I'd probably uninstall Chrome if it's still playing up and install a fresh copy.

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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #708 on: March 3, 2016, 08:15:12 AM »
I would install and run CCleaner - I find it's the best tool for cleaning and speeding up an old PC.

https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download

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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #710 on: March 3, 2016, 02:54:25 PM »
Thanks for advice so far. Have to confess I'm a simpleton when it comes to this.

Titi - I did try to run a Microsoft Security sweep last night. Seemed to be doing it, then got to the end and said it couldn't update.

A bit chicken and egg this question but how do you get online to update Chrome when the he version I have is so painfully slow and makes getting online virtually impossible?

Final thing to say is we do have photos etc on there that don't want to lose so would ideally want to update rather than restore factory settings etc.
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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #711 on: March 3, 2016, 03:03:27 PM »
Has it not accidentally fallen down the stairs yet? cough cough

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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #712 on: March 3, 2016, 03:09:30 PM »
Thanks for advice so far. Have to confess I'm a simpleton when it comes to this.

Titi - I did try to run a Microsoft Security sweep last night. Seemed to be doing it, then got to the end and said it couldn't update.

A bit chicken and egg this question but how do you get online to update Chrome when the he version I have is so painfully slow and makes getting online virtually impossible?

Final thing to say is we do have photos etc on there that don't want to lose so would ideally want to update rather than restore factory settings etc.
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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #713 on: March 3, 2016, 03:25:15 PM »

Thanks for advice so far. Have to confess I'm a simpleton when it comes to this.

Titi - I did try to run a Microsoft Security sweep last night. Seemed to be doing it, then got to the end and said it couldn't update.

A bit chicken and egg this question but how do you get online to update Chrome when the he version I have is so painfully slow and makes getting online virtually impossible?

Final thing to say is we do have photos etc on there that don't want to lose so would ideally want to update rather than restore factory settings etc.

Um, might I suggest you copy the photos off onto an external...

We really can't help if you don't give us the specs of thing....

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Amount of Ram

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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #714 on: March 3, 2016, 03:59:12 PM »
Um, might I suggest you copy the photos off onto an external...

We really can't help if you don't give us the specs of thing....

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Model Number
Amount of Ram

At the very least...

Jeez what's with all the questions? Can you make porn appear on my laptop? Yes or No?!

I'm going to try Titi's suggestion later and will go from there. Cheers.

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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #715 on: March 3, 2016, 04:06:07 PM »
Worst case scenario and you can't get it up and running but you're desperate to save the photos (or porn):

1. Buy an external caddy
2. Open the old laptop up and remove the hard drive
3. Slot the hard drive into the caddy
4. Plug the caddy into a newer machine
5. It will appear as an external hard drive
6. Drag and drop the photos to the other machine
7. Back the photos up to an online storage site or whatever

I am aware of the fact that you'll need another machine to do this but I'm sure you can find someone else with a laptop to help.

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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #716 on: March 3, 2016, 04:12:36 PM »
Worst case scenario and you can't get it up and running but you're desperate to save the photos (or porn):

1. Buy an external caddy
2. Open the old laptop up and remove the hard drive
3. Slot the hard drive into the caddy
4. Plug the caddy into a newer machine
5. It will appear as an external hard drive
6. Drag and drop the photos to the other machine
7. Back the photos up to an online storage site or whatever

I am aware of the fact that you'll need another machine to do this but I'm sure you can find someone else with a laptop to help.
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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #717 on: March 3, 2016, 04:26:21 PM »
Ha ha the daft fucker can't even find internet explorer but you suggest he strip down a laptop back to components ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :lickin :wave

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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #718 on: March 3, 2016, 04:47:30 PM »
Ha, Internet Explorer wasn't working for me either clever dick!
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Re: Out of date Laptop
« Reply #719 on: March 3, 2016, 05:21:21 PM »
Someone who has openly suggested they aren't confident with a computer is hardly going to rebuild the machine or install Ubuntu...

Chrome seems to be your biggest concern at the moment. Chrome should automatically install Flash updates, so you won't need to manually install anything. You can see if your Chrome can be updated, which it probably can if you haven't used it in over a year. Open Chrome > Menu (looks like a burger!) > Settings > About and from there you can see if it can be updated - chances are it will update itself.

When you start it up/shut it down are you getting any update/configuring messages? I would agree with whoever said above that your machine is probably way behind on updates. In the evening, go to Control Panel > Windows Update > Check for Updates... This will probably take a while but come back to it after 30-45 minutes and see what it has found. You can let it update and leave it to run through the night.

However, if you have done this and it appears to get 'stuck' then you may want to try installing them in smaller batches i.e. when it searches for updates and shows available updates, you can tick/untick what you want it to install. Might be best to try it in smaller batches. One of my users had this issue a few weeks back, and it was one update amongst 68 that was killing the machine and preventing it from updating. I just did it in smaller batches to try and narrow down the fucker. I would normally wipe and rebuild to be honest but it was his home computer, not his work computer, and he stuff on there he needed, so I played the long game. Took about 4/5 hours as they machine was dreadfully slow but the updates were preventing him from accessing the internet and doing anything, really. 4/5 hours but I only had to do something for a few minutes every half hour or so.
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