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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102040 on: September 5, 2020, 07:25:42 PM »
Hoever is coming along very nicely, and for me he looks a better prospect than Williams at right back.  Glides with the ball, great range of passing, lovely technique, pace, movement, he has it all.

The test will come against quality attackers but he's just a pure footballer.  Really promising.

Absolutely. He is brilliant and probably should be ahead of Williams.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102041 on: September 6, 2020, 07:57:13 AM »
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/academy/407519-u18s-put-four-past-united-in-latest-pre-season-friendly

u18s beat United 4-1, Oakley-Cannonier, Mabaya, Quansah, and Woltman with the goals.
I’m enjoying LFC tv for the first time this year watching the clips of these talented players coming through our ranks  8)

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102042 on: September 6, 2020, 08:48:29 AM »
I’m enjoying LFC tv for the first time this year watching the clips of these talented players coming through our ranks  8)

The U18s and U23’s are great to watch and the younger team have started impressively. I wish more of our fans could watch them.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102043 on: September 6, 2020, 10:08:21 AM »
Isaac Mabaya could be a player we are hearing a lot about in a few years time.

He looks some talent in the highlights I have seen of him


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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102044 on: September 6, 2020, 05:54:30 PM »
What kind of player is he?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102045 on: September 6, 2020, 08:30:33 PM »
I'm struggling to recall a period where it felt like we had more exciting youth talents on the books.

The Sterling, Suso, Coady youth group was pretty exceptional and around that time we also had Ibe, Wilson and Kent beginning to emerge into public consciousness in lower age groups.

The early and late nineties can also take a bow (and, in terms of top level talent that emerged, clearly blow the Sterling-Wilson cohorts out of the water)

But the current crop: Jones, Elliott, Hoever, Williams, Koumetio, etc (and seemingly pretty much every member of the new U18 squad) must be getting the club hierarchy pretty excited.


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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102046 on: September 6, 2020, 08:49:03 PM »
I'm struggling to recall a period where it felt like we had more exciting youth talents on the books.

The Sterling, Suso, Coady youth group was pretty exceptional and around that time we also had Ibe, Wilson and Kent beginning to emerge into public consciousness in lower age groups.

The early and late nineties can also take a bow (and, in terms of top level talent that emerged, clearly blow the Sterling-Wilson cohorts out of the water)

But the current crop: Jones, Barnes, Hoever, Williams, Koumetio, etc (and seemingly pretty much every member of the new U18 squad) must be getting the club hierarchy pretty excited.

Inglethorpe has done an incredible job, he’s brilliant at his job and has brought in top coaches, the way we provide a pathway to the first team is also excellent, he’s had the time to do his work properly and the resources, hopefully things will get even better once everyone is at the new facilities

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102047 on: September 6, 2020, 09:25:07 PM »
I like how we are incorporating bringing in top young talent from around the globe and not just local lads. This would help increase the quality of our youngsters.

For example Hoever, Elliot, Koumetio, were all brought in from overseas at a young age, and have all looked good.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102049 on: September 6, 2020, 09:41:07 PM »
Looks very promising in that clip but is he a pacy wide man, no.10 or striker etc?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102050 on: September 6, 2020, 10:23:23 PM »
I like how we are incorporating bringing in top young talent from around the globe and not just local lads. This would help increase the quality of our youngsters.

For example Hoever, Elliot, Koumetio, were all brought in from overseas at a young age, and have all looked good.

Has the London Borough of Fulham declared independence? ;D

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102051 on: September 6, 2020, 11:44:43 PM »
Has the London Borough of Fulham declared independence? ;D
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102052 on: September 7, 2020, 09:58:56 AM »
I would like to know what is happening with Ben Woodburn had a couple loan spells out did not feature in our pre season and still gets a welsh call up ?

We had a lot of high hopes for Ben but just looked like the hype died down and never to be seen again. He will join a long list of players who had potential and just fizzled out .

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102053 on: September 7, 2020, 10:40:20 AM »
I would like to know what is happening with Ben Woodburn had a couple loan spells out did not feature in our pre season and still gets a welsh call up ?

We had a lot of high hopes for Ben but just looked like the hype died down and never to be seen again. He will join a long list of players who had potential and just fizzled out .

Spearing
Kelly
Brannagan
See also Jon Flanagan, Jack Robinson and Andre Wisdom.

Woodburn is in a similar camp to Jack Robinson, high profile debut that attracted a lot of attention but then not a great deal else to follow.

It’s coming up to 4 years since his debut goal, remains to be seen where he will end up.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102054 on: September 7, 2020, 10:51:42 AM »
Kelly has 200+ appearences fpr premier league clubs, Robinson was playing fairly reguariy for a premier league team after his transfer.  Wisdom has gone between championship and premier league. They've all had gopd careers so far, it's a fine line between that and ending up in Coady's position, who 3/4 years ago people would have put him in with this group of players.

Woodburn needs a permanent move. Probably somewhere like holland, or Portugal (Crowley and Edwards are two who did this and it seems to have benefited them) so he can continue to develop in less physical leagues with a team that has an jnterest in his development and not just short term gains

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102055 on: September 7, 2020, 11:57:59 AM »
Kelly has 200+ appearences fpr premier league clubs, Robinson was playing fairly reguariy for a premier league team after his transfer.  Wisdom has gone between championship and premier league. They've all had gopd careers so far, it's a fine line between that and ending up in Coady's position, who 3/4 years ago people would have put him in with this group of players.

Woodburn needs a permanent move. Probably somewhere like holland, or Portugal (Crowley and Edwards are two who did this and it seems to have benefited them) so he can continue to develop in less physical leagues with a team that has an jnterest in his development and not just short term gains

Yeah I think a move oversees will benefit his career and get him regular game time a move to Holland would be a good choice not Oxford or Wigan .

Flanagan was a prospect and then went down hill was in the  news with the assault of his girlfriend and was never seen again the couple years at Rangers was also pretty poor he is without a club currently .

Adam Morgan is another name what comes to mind he was similar to Woodburn.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102056 on: September 7, 2020, 12:50:03 PM »
The U18s and U23’s are great to watch and the younger team have started impressively. I wish more of our fans could watch them.
See the clip of the Man Utd 18s is on at 6pm today hearing a lot of good things about this squad is it right only a few came up into the 18s from 16s ?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102057 on: September 7, 2020, 01:08:37 PM »
Yeah I think a move oversees will benefit his career and get him regular game time a move to Holland would be a good choice not Oxford or Wigan .

Flanagan was a prospect and then went down hill was in the  news with the assault of his girlfriend and was never seen again the couple years at Rangers was also pretty poor he is without a club currently .

Adam Morgan is another name what comes to mind he was similar to Woodburn.

Woodburn was much more highly thought of than Morgan but has had regular injuries so has not been in a loan team long enough to really establish himself.  He was originally only called up to the Wales u21 this break but with lots of drop outs, moved up to the full squad.  Given his injury record I think he will need to built up his reputation at a lower club, like BranagAn is doing, and like Robinson did after suffering a terrible injury shortly after joining QPR then going on loan to Notts Forest I think.    I think it is a measure of the will to succeed that Coady and Robinson have worked their way back into the premier league after dropping down

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102058 on: September 7, 2020, 01:50:38 PM »
Absolutely. He is brilliant and probably should be ahead of Williams.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102059 on: September 7, 2020, 04:12:37 PM »
Another win for the U23s today (v Huddersfield).  Glatzel (pen), 2 x Dixon B and Longstaff. 

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102060 on: September 7, 2020, 04:36:24 PM »
It's great to see Glatzel picking up where he left off pre-injury and scoring goals, hopefully he carries this form into the season and possibly gets a call-up for the League Cup game against Lincoln or Bradford.

Fingers crossed for him, he's potentially a huge talent with so much to his game beside scoring goals. Really hope he bounces back from the injury and has a great season.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102061 on: September 7, 2020, 05:22:12 PM »
It's great to see Glatzel picking up where he left off pre-injury and scoring goals, hopefully he carries this form into the season and possibly gets a call-up for the League Cup game against Lincoln or Bradford.

Fingers crossed for him, he's potentially a huge talent with so much to his game beside scoring goals. Really hope he bounces back from the injury and has a great season.

Think Glatzel is one of the reasons why Brewster will probably be allowed out on loan/sold (although in the case of the latter I think we’d only do so with first refusal/buy-back on him). Given the injury he’s had, probably happy to play in the U23s for another season and wait for an opportunity, whereas Brewster will understandably want to kick on with playing senior football given how well he played in the Championship.

Mentioned similar in the Ki-Jana Hoever thread in the sense that you’d expect one of him and Williams to go out on loan at some point this season, and Hoever would probably be the one because he’ll want to start playing senior football regularly and is maybe a bit further along in terms of that development than Williams (funny thing to say given he already has a Premier League medal and has just scored a winner for the Welsh national team but here we are).

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102062 on: September 7, 2020, 05:24:04 PM »
See the clip of the Man Utd 18s is on at 6pm today hearing a lot of good things about this squad is it right only a few came up into the 18s from 16s ?

The teams always tend to be on the young side as they move up quite quickly. They have the training group as well who tend to spend time with the first team, but also get minutes in the under 23's. There are certainly a number of exciting prospects in the under 18's and they have started the pre-season in top form so far. It will be interesting to see as others go out on loan, whether more will move into the u23's as a result. Three to keep an eye on are Tom Hill, James Norris and Layton Stewart, think they will all have a good season.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102063 on: September 7, 2020, 06:32:42 PM »
Isaac Christie-Davies has joined Barnsley on a three-year contract, good move for him after leaving us earlier this summer.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102064 on: September 7, 2020, 10:59:36 PM »
The teams always tend to be on the young side as they move up quite quickly. They have the training group as well who tend to spend time with the first team, but also get minutes in the under 23's. There are certainly a number of exciting prospects in the under 18's and they have started the pre-season in top form so far. It will be interesting to see as others go out on loan, whether more will move into the u23's as a result. Three to keep an eye on are Tom Hill, James Norris and Layton Stewart, think they will all have a good season.
Considering some of these 18s are first year scholars they look so comfortable. Just watched the Man Utd game Exciting times. The young CB Jonas is the youngest in the squad great athleticism and young Issac looks a player

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102065 on: September 8, 2020, 06:42:48 AM »
Considering some of these 18s are first year scholars they look so comfortable. Just watched the Man Utd game Exciting times. The young CB Jonas is the youngest in the squad great athleticism and young Issac looks a player

I haven't had the chance to watch it yet, I enjoy watching the younger teams as much as watching the seniors now. Inglethorpe has done a brilliant job at the Academy and his work with Klopp has started to really bare fruit now. You can watch any of these teams now and know they are Liverpool, because of how they play. It is how an Academy should be, it will be even better when everyone is on one site hope that happens soon.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102066 on: September 8, 2020, 07:12:23 AM »
Never understood the hype with Woodburn, always thought Jones would be better than him.

Are there U18 highlights anywhere other than the official site?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102067 on: September 8, 2020, 07:36:06 AM »
Never understood the hype with Woodburn, always thought Jones would be better than him.

Are there U18 highlights anywhere other than the official site?
dont think so I purchased LFCTV with the offer of £50 upfront. I’m unsure if the clips are anywhere else

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102068 on: September 8, 2020, 11:05:27 AM »
I have been going back on this thread and been looking on how the names have went on in their career . The OP has some names on there some went on to have good careers some have never been heard of again .

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102069 on: September 8, 2020, 11:50:03 AM »
I have been going back on this thread and been looking on how the names have went on in their career . The OP has some names on there some went on to have good careers some have never been heard of again .

The sad thing is that 2 of them have passed away

Miki Roque and Besian Idrizaj
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102070 on: September 8, 2020, 01:47:47 PM »
The sad thing is that 2 of them have passed away

Miki Roque and Besian Idrizaj

yeah such a shame.


some of the names thought

- Jay Spearing
 -Ray Putterill
- Ryan Flynn
- Craig Lindfield
- Stephen Darby
- Robbie Threlfall
- Adam Hammill
- Besian Idrizaj
- Danny Guthrie
- Ronald Huth
- Martin Hansen
- Krisztian Nemeth
- Peter Gulacsi
- Paul Anderson
- Martin Kelly
- Dean Bouzanis
- Damien Plessis
- Mikel San Jose Dominguez
- Jordy Brouwer
- Ryan Crowther
- Andras Simon
- Nikolay Mihaylov
- Francisco Duran
- Lee Peltier
- Godwin Antwi
- Miki Roque


Ryan Flynn was a funny one He played for Falkirk between 2009 and 2011 I was playing with the Under 18s at the time and played against him you could see he was a cut above the rest but when to the matches was half the player he was in training games he got a move to Sheffield United . I think he is at St Mirren now . Nemeth was one I was excited for never quite hit the heights with the backing he got.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102071 on: September 8, 2020, 06:19:08 PM »
Love the story of that lad Oakley who was Trents ball boy vs Barca
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102072 on: September 8, 2020, 06:26:07 PM »
Never understood the hype with Woodburn, always thought Jones would be better than him.

Are there U18 highlights anywhere other than the official site?

I had a look on youtube this morning, it doesn't seem to be on there at the moment, it might within a couple of days.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102073 on: September 8, 2020, 06:28:34 PM »
yeah such a shame.


some of the names thought

- Jay Spearing
 -Ray Putterill
- Ryan Flynn
- Craig Lindfield
- Stephen Darby
- Robbie Threlfall
- Adam Hammill
- Besian Idrizaj
- Danny Guthrie
- Ronald Huth
- Martin Hansen
- Krisztian Nemeth
- Peter Gulacsi
- Paul Anderson
- Martin Kelly
- Dean Bouzanis
- Damien Plessis
- Mikel San Jose Dominguez
- Jordy Brouwer
- Ryan Crowther
- Andras Simon
- Nikolay Mihaylov
- Francisco Duran
- Lee Peltier
- Godwin Antwi
- Miki Roque


Ryan Flynn was a funny one He played for Falkirk between 2009 and 2011 I was playing with the Under 18s at the time and played against him you could see he was a cut above the rest but when to the matches was half the player he was in training games he got a move to Sheffield United . I think he is at St Mirren now . Nemeth was one I was excited for never quite hit the heights with the backing he got.

A lot of those have gone on to have successful careers, Gulácsi being the stand out
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102074 on: September 8, 2020, 06:37:08 PM »
Speaking of former acadmey players Coady starts for England tonight. Understand not many are fans of England, but still great to see

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102075 on: September 8, 2020, 06:38:24 PM »
Speaking of former acadmey players Coady starts for England tonight. Understand not many are fans of England, but still great to see

He has certainly earned his chance, has a carved out a good career at Wolves.
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« Reply #102076 on: September 8, 2020, 07:12:19 PM »
Speaking of former acadmey players Coady starts for England tonight. Understand not many are fans of England, but still great to see

Trent, Coady and Sterling all from the academy. Gomez joined young too at 18. Not too bad.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102077 on: September 8, 2020, 07:56:55 PM »
Trent, Coady and Sterling all from the academy. Gomez joined young too at 18. Not too bad.
It is great to see 4 young players who all coming from a young age to get to that level.

But to be honest as one of the biggest clubs in the country we should be expecting to see this. Hopefully it continues in the future.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102078 on: September 8, 2020, 08:12:56 PM »


Glatzel is the one that excites me most, he’s got the X factor

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102079 on: September 8, 2020, 11:47:26 PM »
some of the names thought

- Jay Spearing
 -Ray Putterill
- Ryan Flynn
- Craig Lindfield
- Stephen Darby
- Robbie Threlfall
- Adam Hammill
- Besian Idrizaj
- Danny Guthrie
- Ronald Huth
- Martin Hansen
- Krisztian Nemeth
- Peter Gulacsi
- Paul Anderson
- Martin Kelly
- Dean Bouzanis
- Damien Plessis
- Mikel San Jose Dominguez
- Jordy Brouwer
- Ryan Crowther
- Andras Simon
- Nikolay Mihaylov
- Francisco Duran
- Lee Peltier
- Godwin Antwi
- Miki Roque


Ryan Flynn was a funny one He played for Falkirk between 2009 and 2011 I was playing with the Under 18s at the time and played against him you could see he was a cut above the rest but when to the matches was half the player he was in training games he got a move to Sheffield United . I think he is at St Mirren now . Nemeth was one I was excited for never quite hit the heights with the backing he got.

Well, some of them like San Jose, Kelly, Guthrie and Hansen had good careers as pros, with Gulacsi reaching the highest level.