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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99320 on: March 30, 2019, 02:55:32 PM »
Will face spurs or arsenal in the u18 playoff if we top the north section. Theyve scored 71 and 72 goal in 18 and 19 games respectively. Not sure how much is them being great and some of the other teams being really shit.

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« Reply #99321 on: March 30, 2019, 05:40:03 PM »
Liverpool Echo reporting that we have signed (yesterday) Ben Winterbottom as a goalkeeper to compete with Jaros (not likely) or to cover for him when he is injured.  He’s 17, 18 in July so equivalent yo a young second year U18.  That still leaves a gap with no goalie in year one of the U18s, who will still play in that age group next year, so presumably we will be open to playing Winterbottom down an age group or otherwise relying on whoever is coming up through the U16s.  Oscar Kelly must be one of those since he has been on the bench for Jaros for most of the season.  Pointless playing Jaros down an age group next year, but we’ll have to free up some U23 time.   Someone, probably more than one, will have to go out of shamal George, Dan Atherton, Ben Williams (if he is still with us), and Kai.  I had hopes for Shamal at some point but he doesn’t seem to have done anything on his loans. 

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99322 on: March 31, 2019, 03:22:30 AM »
DALLAS, Texas (Wednesday, Mar. 27) –  The Dr Pepper Dallas Cup, the oldest and most prestigious international youth soccer tournament in the United States, has announced the matchups for 2019’s opening day triple-header at Cotton Bowl Stadium, along with the brackets for the twelve teams that make up this year’s Gordon Jago Super Group. The Super Group participants include top academies from seven countries and features three former Super Group champions. Eight of the twelve teams are currently in first or second place in their respective academy divisions.

The Dr Pepper Dallas Cup’s 40th Anniversary Tournament kicks off on April 14 with a full day of soccer action at the historic Cotton Bowl Stadium. The marquee game of the opening day triple-header is a matchup between the Premier League’s Liverpool FC and defending Super Group champion Tigres at 6:30pm. The day will start at 12:30pm with first-place FC Dallas squaring off against La Liga side Villarreal CF, also in first place in Spain’s División de Honor Juvenil. At 3:00pm, Liga MX’s CF Monterrey will hit the pitch against current U18 Premier League leader Arsenal FC. The annual “Welcome World” Opening Ceremonies and Parade of Nations, featuring all 244 Dr Pepper Dallas Cup 40th teams, will start at 5:00pm.  Ticket prices for the opening day triple-header range from $15 for adults to $5 for youths 13 and under. Tickets are available at www.dallascup.com.

 



Group A

Liverpool FC (England)

Tigres UANL (Mexico)

Ikapa Sporting FC (South Africa)

New York City FC (USA)

 



Notable Group A Facts: Liverpool FC is making their first trip to the Dallas Cup since winning the Super Group title during their lone appearance in 2008. The Reds’ academy team is currently in second place of the North division in the U18 Premier League, while the senior side sits atop the Premier League table. Defending Gordon Jago Super Group champion Tigres hopes to become just the fifth team to repeat as champions of the Super Group. The Mexican side currently sits in first and second place of the senior and U20 Liga MX standings, respectively. Hailing from South Africa, Ikapa Sporting is the first African side to compete in the Super Group since 1999 (Jomo Cosmos). 2017-2018 U.S. Soccer Development Academy U18/U19 national champion, New York City FC, hopes to make a strong tournament debut in the 2019 Gordon Jago Super Group. The academy’s success has rolled into the 2018-2019 USSDA campaign, as they currently sit in first place of the Northeast Division.


 



Group B

Arsenal FC (England)

CF Monterrey (Mexico)

Toronto FC (Canada)

Real Salt Lake (USA)

 



Notable Group B Facts: 2018 Gordon Jago Super Group runner-up, Arsenal FC, will make their third Dallas Cup appearance this spring. With the 2018-2019 U18 Premier League campaign underway, the Arsenal U18 side currently sits atop the South division. CF Monterrey has the most Dallas Cup championships all-time, but is still seeking their first Super Group title. Rayados currently sit in third place of the 2019 Liga MX Clasura standings. The 2019 Dr Pepper Dallas Cup will mark Toronto FC’s fourth Super Group appearance. The Canadian side is currently in second place of the Mid-America Division for the 2018-2019 USSDA season, and are unbeaten in their last nine games, scoring a whopping 41 goals during that span. Currently in second place of the USSDA Southwest division, Real Salt Lake is set to make their fifth Super Group appearance. The MLS academy side will replace Brazil’s Cruzeiro, who will not be able to participate due to scheduling conflicts with domestic cup play.

 



Group C

Villarreal CF (Spain)

Queretaro FC (Mexico)

Red Bull Brasil (Brazil)

FC Dallas (USA)

 



Notable Group C Facts: Making their Dallas Cup debut, La Liga’s Villarreal CF will vie to become the first Spanish Super Group champion since Real Madrid’s back-to-back titles in 1993 and 1994. The Spanish side is currently in first place of Group VII of the 2018-2019 División de Honor Juvenil, the top level of Spain’s youth soccer system. The 2019 Dr Pepper Dallas Cup will mark Querétaro’s third Gordon Jago Super Group appearance in the past four years as they hope to become the second consecutive Mexican side to win the prestigious title. Red Bull Brasil returns to the Dr Pepper Dallas Cup for the third consecutive year after debuting in the tournament in 2017. FC Dallas is the only MLS academy to hoist the iconic Super Group “Boot and Ball” trophy, a feat they accomplished in 2017. The local side is in first place of the Frontier Division for the current USSDA season, scoring a league leading 60 goals in 18 matches.

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Our U19's will have the  hardest match first with Tigres who won this last year. And the first side of Tigres also won the LigaMX. So these are not going to be easy.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99323 on: April 1, 2019, 12:36:12 PM »
Did I read somewhere that Camacho and Jones will have 1 year left on their contracts from this summer? I guess if they don't sign extensions they won't be going out on loan.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99324 on: April 1, 2019, 01:01:48 PM »
Did I read somewhere that Camacho and Jones will have 1 year left on their contracts from this summer? I guess if they don't sign extensions they won't be going out on loan.
Yes. Longest first deal they can sign is until the end of the season they turn 19. Camacho should already be looking for a loan/move in the summer. Jones the same depending on assurances/transfers.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99325 on: April 1, 2019, 10:42:01 PM »
Out of interest, up to what age can you sign a player out of a transfer window and still get them registered to play for you.  I’m referring to Ben Winterbottom who seems to be a permanent signing rather than an emergency loan like we had for the Fulham England youth goalie we had for the semi final of the FA Youth cup?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99326 on: April 3, 2019, 10:51:11 PM »
BBC were reporting that Paul Glatzel has scored a hattrick for Heidenheim in their 5-4 DFB Pokal loss to Bayern Munich. I rushed in here to see if the lad had made an unexpected loan that I hadn’t heard of. A quick google later and it’s Robert Glatzel they’ve got on their books, not the name dropped Paul.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99327 on: April 6, 2019, 12:32:24 PM »
When are these two games in a day being played? I think U18 and U23

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99328 on: April 6, 2019, 12:53:25 PM »
When are these two games in a day being played? I think U18 and U23

Seems to be today - U18s against Wolves, it's 0-0 at half-time (the game started at 12) and the U23s against Chelsea starts at 3.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99329 on: April 14, 2019, 12:17:17 PM »
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Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Joe Gomez and Rhian Brewster start for Liverpool U23s in their Premier League 2 clash with Leicester City this afternoon.

The first-team trio are set to take another step forward in their respective recoveries from injury by playing in the tie at the King Power Stadium, which kicks off at 1pm BST.

Rafael Camacho, Curtis Jones and Ben Woodburn also feature for Neil Critchley’s team.

Stay logged on to Liverpoolfc.com for a match report from Leicester later on Sunday.

Liverpool U23s: George, Gomez, Lewis, Hoever, Johnston, Coyle, Camacho, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Brewster, Woodburn, Jones.

Substitutes:
Christie-Davies, Atherton, Masterson, McAuley, Gallacher.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99330 on: April 14, 2019, 12:43:53 PM »
Great looking side that with Camacho and Woodburn just a passing mention and the Hoever not mentioned at all!

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99331 on: April 14, 2019, 12:46:14 PM »
A shame they are not covering the under 23 game, would have been a good watch. Good luck to all the returnees.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99332 on: April 14, 2019, 01:13:37 PM »
Brewster scores in the 6th minute.  Good start then

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99333 on: April 14, 2019, 01:19:16 PM »
A shame they are not covering the under 23 game, would have been a good watch. Good luck to all the returnees.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99334 on: April 14, 2019, 01:22:46 PM »
Woodburn penalty, after Brewster fouled in the box.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99335 on: April 14, 2019, 01:34:42 PM »
Just registered and got the game, just missed Curtis Jones' 3rd grrr.

Their kit looks like Chelsea, a similar three goals up before half time would suit me fine  8)

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99336 on: April 14, 2019, 02:13:45 PM »
I tell you what, we have a big number of youngsters who could potentially go on to really good things

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99337 on: April 14, 2019, 03:17:52 PM »
0-6 FT

Men against boys really.

Brewster 2
Camacho 2
Woodburn (Pen)
Jones

Camacho may claim a hat-trick, not sure if Brewster's second was over the line before Camacho bundled it in.

Joe Gomez looked good and it was an AOC piledriver that the keeper couldn't hold for Brewster's first.

Jones brilliant going forward but lost concentration a couple of times to let Leicester in.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99338 on: April 14, 2019, 03:40:58 PM »
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99339 on: April 14, 2019, 03:42:47 PM »
Brewster made one goal with a bone crunching 50:50 challenge.

Looked really really sharp.

He’s pretty much ready for the bench now.  Could he make an impact? Chamberlain is too far away, but Brewster......?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99340 on: April 15, 2019, 07:36:04 AM »
Our u19 side lost 4-2 in the Dallas cup overnight sadly.  Given yesterday’s result for the firsts, I don’t think I’m too disappointed.   :)

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99341 on: April 15, 2019, 08:05:45 AM »
Brewster made one goal with a bone crunching 50:50 challenge.

Looked really really sharp.

He’s pretty much ready for the bench now.  Could he make an impact? Chamberlain is too far away, but Brewster......?

Surely not. He's been out for what.. a whole season?

If AOC isn't ready, I don't think Brewster is ready. Also a big ask for a player with zero first team experience if he's asked to come on and do something special, with everything on the line. Plenty of time for him to show what he can do next season.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99342 on: April 15, 2019, 08:34:49 AM »
Yes. Longest first deal they can sign is until the end of the season they turn 19. Camacho should already be looking for a loan/move in the summer. Jones the same depending on assurances/transfers.

Going by Camachos latest instagram post looks like he'll be off

Posting from my phone so cant attach the image but it reads 'I do not know whose idea it is, but I will prove they are mistaken about my football. I'm not a right defender, i'm an attacker that scores goals. This is my DNA. Happy to score 3 goals and help the team in today's win vs Leicester'

Odd thing to be tweeting to be honest, like the lad as a player but he would do well to realise he wouldn't have even made his debut yet under most managers. Doubt Klopp will be too impressed with this stupid public post instead of just speaking to him privately

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99343 on: April 15, 2019, 09:02:10 AM »
Going by Camachos latest instagram post looks like he'll be off

Posting from my phone so cant attach the image but it reads 'I do not know whose idea it is, but I will prove they are mistaken about my football. I'm not a right defender, i'm an attacker that scores goals. This is my DNA. Happy to score 3 goals and help the team in today's win vs Leicester'

Odd thing to be tweeting to be honest, like the lad as a player but he would do well to realise he wouldn't have even made his debut yet under most managers. Doubt Klopp will be too impressed with this stupid public post instead of just speaking to him privately

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99344 on: April 15, 2019, 10:12:29 AM »
He's like 7th/8th choice right back and only got a game because we were desperate. I can understand why that plus not seeing himself as a right back, which he never has looked like even in his minutes in the cup there,  might make him want to leave.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99345 on: April 15, 2019, 10:25:00 AM »
Not a smart thing for Camacho to say regardless of what team he is playing for. At his young age, what top team would be deploying him as a forward? If he can get in to play in any position in the starting 11 except for goalkeeper, he should be leaping for that chance and be the best right back/midfielder/defender he could possibly be in the interests of getting the first team minutes. After all, did Joe Gomez really think his best position was right back? Did Trent Alexander Arnold think his best position is right back? Even the likes of Carragher and Steven Gerrard started out playing as right back. Who does he think he is in suggesting the coach does not know what position he is best at? Does he really think the coaching staff are oblivious to his attributes? The simple fact is that he is not fit to tie the shoe laces of Mane, Firminho nor Salah especially, and it is most likely that he will never be. So he cannot play in the first team in that role anyway but if he could deploy his attacking instincts as right back while learning how to defend better, then why not? It is good for him and good for the team.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99346 on: April 15, 2019, 10:59:49 AM »
Gomez and trent played plenty youth football at fullback and were getting good first team minutes there.

Camacho wont get minutes in the front 3 here, probably needs to drop to league one of he wants it in England.   He wants to play though, but was held back from going on loan for 90 minutes in a nothing cup game for us. He's not even close to playing right back for the first team, think about 7 other players have started there over him in the league.  Hes frustrated, probably leaves, not really much of an issue.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99347 on: April 15, 2019, 12:04:33 PM »
Good riddance if that's his attitude. I'm not sure whether it's aimed at Klopp, the u-23 staff or the club as a whole but he played at right back twice for the u-23's back in September and once against Wolves in the FA Cup so he's done it at both levels.

Gomez and trent played plenty youth football at fullback and were getting good first team minutes there.

Camacho wont get minutes in the front 3 here, probably needs to drop to league one of he wants it in England.   He wants to play though, but was held back from going on loan for 90 minutes in a nothing cup game for us. He's not even close to playing right back for the first team, think about 7 other players have started there over him in the league.  Hes frustrated, probably leaves, not really much of an issue.

I could be way off but didn't Trent only start playing right back once Alex Inglethorpe had spoken with him? I think Alex suggested that the quickest way into the first-team was playing right back because of the shortage. Before that he'd mainly played centre mid and right wing.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99348 on: April 15, 2019, 04:32:15 PM »
Surely not. He's been out for what.. a whole season?

If AOC isn't ready, I don't think Brewster is ready. Also a big ask for a player with zero first team experience if he's asked to come on and do something special, with everything on the line. Plenty of time for him to show what he can do next season.
He was really sharp though. Looked 3 weeks fitter than chamberlain.

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« Reply #99349 on: April 15, 2019, 08:38:08 PM »
Hasn’t  Camacho turned down a new contract

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« Reply #99350 on: April 15, 2019, 08:44:15 PM »
Hasn’t  Camacho turned down a new contract
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99351 on: April 16, 2019, 07:51:38 AM »
U19s lost again in the Dallas Cup yesterday, 1-0 against NYC.   Maybe we’re only playing our U18 squad.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99352 on: April 16, 2019, 04:22:12 PM »
Assuming they do eligibility based on calendar years Brewster, Jones, Camacho, McAuley and Hoever are all eligible to play U19 football but have stayed in England to play with the U23s instead. For the American teams the Dallas Cup is the big tournament in that age group and they take it very seriously while for ours it's an end of season thing for the guys not needed by older age groups, I wouldn't worry about it too much.


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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99353 on: April 17, 2019, 02:16:29 PM »
The FA Youth Cup final between Liverpool and Manchester City will take place on Thursday April 25.

Kick-off at City's Academy Stadium is scheduled for 7.45pm BST and the game will be shown live on BT Sport.

After a change in the competition format this season, the tie will be one leg only with extra-time and penalties if necessary.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99354 on: April 17, 2019, 02:17:21 PM »
Why is it at their stadium?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99355 on: April 17, 2019, 04:43:15 PM »
Why is it at their stadium?
They were drawn at home. They changed from 2 legged semi finals amd final to one at the home teams ground. No idea why as rhe previous way seemed a lot better

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99356 on: April 17, 2019, 05:03:19 PM »
Liverpool v Tigres, 3:50:00 onwards, great camera angle to see the team shapes:

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99357 on: April 17, 2019, 07:00:47 PM »
Rafa Camacho singing a different tune on Instagram today!

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« Reply #99358 on: April 17, 2019, 07:08:21 PM »
Rafa Camacho singing a different tune on Instagram today!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BwXXqnSA_pZ/

I felt a little bit sick reading that  ;D
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #99359 on: April 17, 2019, 07:12:08 PM »
I felt a little bit sick reading that  ;D

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It's quite something!  But better than negativity, so all good.
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